Lebron may be better Statistic wise...

[HOoopCityJones]

But give me Kobe Bryant to start my franchise anyday.

Kobe doesn't disappear in games, ever.

InB4 2010 Gm 7.

[Rodmantheman]

But give me Kobe Bryant to start my franchise anyday.

Kobe doesn't disappear in games, ever.

InB4 2010 Gm 7.

Game 7 against the suns:roll: :roll: :roll:

[moe94]

Kobe Bryant's Finals stats are actually worse than LeBron James. I mean, why do y'all act like this isn't the case?

[Keno]

lebron averages the most points per game in an elimination game / game sevens. kobe averages around twenty two points per game on terrible shooting percentages. kobe stans are clueless.

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe Bryant's Finals stats are actually worse than LeBron James. I mean, why do y'all act like this isn't the case?

You mean all 3 of them? :confusedshrug:

Not really impressed with such a small sample size.

[HOoopCityJones]

Even worse if you consider game 6 versus the Spurs was literally given to them.

[moe94]

You mean all 3 of them? :confusedshrug:

Not really impressed with such a small sample size.

3, eh?

[HOoopCityJones]

3, eh?
ooh, yea 2011 :lol

4

Not impressed.

[JohnFreeman]

Isn't LeBron the greatest elimination player of all time?

[TheMarkMadsen]

I remember when Lebron averaged 30ppg in the finals

I remember when Lebron shot 50% in the finals

oh wait no i dont

[HOoopCityJones]

Isn't LeBron the greatest elimination player of all time?

If this was true he'd have way more Finals appearances.

Lebron's illusion of less = success is overrated

[Keno]

I remember when Lebron averaged 30ppg in the finals

I remember when Lebron shot 50% in the finals

oh wait no i dont

what do those cherry picked stats have to do with anything? i remember when kobe averaged twenty nine points per game - ten rebounds per game and eight assists per game in the finals. i remember when kobe dropped thirty seven points in the game seven of the finals. oh wait no i don't.

[Deuce Bigalow]

ooh, yea 2011 :lol

4

Not impressed.
:lol

:applause:

I dont know if 22 ppg on 36% with 6 t/o counts as a peformance either tbh

[aj1987]

what do those cherry picked stats have to do with anything? i remember when kobe averaged twenty nine points per game - ten rebounds per game and eight assists per game in the finals. i remember when kobe dropped thirty seven points in the game seven of the finals. oh wait no i don't.
Doesn't Kobe also have like 4 triple-doubles in the Finals? Oh wait...NVM, that's had him confused with LeBron.

[Keno]

Doesn't Kobe also have like 4 triple-doubles in the Finals? Oh wait...NVM, that's had him confused with LeBron.

if i recall correctly, lebron has five finals triple doubles, only magic has more.

[aj1987]

:lol

:applause:

I dont know if 22 ppg on 36% with 6 t/o counts as a peformance either tbh
How about 16 points on 37% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2000_finals.html) or 23 points on 38% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_finals.html)?

With a PRIME Shaq, BTW. Who were LeBron's teammates?

[J Shuttlesworth]

:lol

:applause:

I dont know if 22 ppg on 36% with 6 t/o counts as a peformance either tbh
Kobe's season where he missed the playoffs was far more impressive.

[Deuce Bigalow]

How about 16 points on 37% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2000_finals.html) or 23 points on 38% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_finals.html)?

With a PRIME Shaq, BTW. Who were LeBron's teammates?
I'll give 2000. '04? He played one of the GOAT defenses.

What about the teammates? That makes Lebron's worse since he was responsible as a distant 1st option while Kobe wasn't and Shaq took up the points.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Kobe's season where he missed the playoffs was far more impressive.
Bran missed the playoffs the same year.

[TheMarkMadsen]

How about 16 points on 37% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2000_finals.html) or 23 points on 38% (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2004_finals.html)?

With a PRIME Shaq, BTW. Who were LeBron's teammates?

played 9 minutes in game 2, didn't play in game 3 (which the Lakers lost) then came back to have a huge game 4 only to be bothered by a fcked up ankle the rest of the series

27/6/5 on 62% TS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_finals.html) /32/6/7 with 1.4 steals & 1.4 blocks on 53% TS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2009_finals.html)

[Keno]

Bran missed the playoffs the same year.

that was his second year in the league, not in his prime years.

[JT123]

I'll give 2000. '04? He played one of the GOAT defenses.

What about the teammates? That makes Lebron's worse since he was responsible as a distant 1st option while Kobe wasn't and Shaq took up the points.
GOAT defenses? :roll: No. Kobe made them look great with all his bricks! Lakers were HEAVY favorites in that series, yet Kobe sabotaged the team out of a ring just so Shaq wouldn't get another Finals MVP. :facepalm

[Deuce Bigalow]

that was his second year in the league, not in his prime years.
Still missed playoffs

[JT123]

played 9 minutes in game 2, didn't play in game 3 (which the Lakers lost) then came back to have a huge game 4 only to be bothered by a fcked up ankle the rest of the series

27/6/5 on 62% TS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_finals.html) /32/6/7 with 1.4 steals & 1.4 blocks on 53% TS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2009_finals.html)
So we gonna use injury excuses now? Well in that case Lebron had a bad elbow on his shooting arm in 2010, which is the only reason the Cavs lost to the Celtics.

[aj1987]

I'll give 2000. '04? He played one of the GOAT defenses.

What about the teammates? That makes Lebron's worse since he was responsible as a distant 1st option while Kobe wasn't and Shaq took up the points.
And yet, Kobe took almost the same number of shots as Shaq (except in '00). Sometimes, even more ('04).

The '04 Pistons were great, but lets not act like the Spurs were bad. They were a GREAT defensive and offensive team. LeBron might've actually won, if he had another good player with him. The Spurs' entire game plan was to stop LeBron and let the other get theirs. LeBron with prime Shaq would've CRUSHED that Spurs team.

[HOoopCityJones]

This idea that in the few Finals performances he's had somehow outweighs Kobe's Legendary Western Conference runs , +Good Finals play is ridiculous.

Lebron literally only became a winner in 2012 Playoff wise.

[aj1987]

played 9 minutes in game 2, didn't play in game 3 (which the Lakers lost) then came back to have a huge game 4 only to be bothered by a fcked up ankle the rest of the series

27/6/5 on 62% TS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2002_finals.html) /32/6/7 with 1.4 steals & 1.4 blocks on 53% TS (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2009_finals.html)
Injuries only count when it happens to Kobe. :oldlol:

29/10/7 with 1.6 steals on 56%. (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2012_finals.html)
25/11/7 with 2.3 steals and a block on 53%. (http://www.basketball-reference.com/playoffs/NBA_2013_finals.html)

[JT123]

Why these Kobe stans trying to pretend that their boy doesn't shoot 41 percent in the Finals for his career? :lol :lol That is pathetic, especially considering he played with prime Shaq for most of those appearances, meaning Kobe NEVER had to face a double team.

[JohnFreeman]

http://cdn.rtny.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/nbak.jpg

[zoom17]

Why these Kobe stans trying to pretend that their boy doesn't shoot 41 percent in the Finals for his career? :lol :lol That is pathetic, especially considering he played with prime Shaq for most of those appearances, meaning Kobe NEVER had to face a double team.

:applause:

[JT123]

This idea that in the few Finals performances he's had somehow outweighs Kobe's Legendary Western Conference runs , +Good Finals play is ridiculous.

Lebron literally only became a winner in 2012 Playoff wise.
2012, which was his 9th year. How many years did it take Kobe to become a winner playoff wise without big daddy Shaq carrying him? The answer would be 13 years! :roll:

[SamuraiSWISH]

Who cares ...

MJ > Both

Fight your bitter fan boy 2nd place argument till the ends of time.

[HOoopCityJones]

Why these Kobe stans trying to pretend that their boy doesn't shoot 41 percent in the Finals for his career? :lol :lol That is pathetic, especially considering he played with prime Shaq for most of those appearances, meaning Kobe NEVER had to face a double team.

When the **** has Kobe never drew a Double Team? Especially in the Finals.

You Ho's can't have it both ways, either he can't draw double Teams, or he's a volume shooter who tries to shoot over a double.

You must be getting shit confused with your boy Lebron, who's best defenders have been Boris Diaw and Jason Terry. :oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

Who cares ...

MJ > Both

Fight your bitter fan boy 2nd place argument till the ends of time.
MJ got a small dick though

[Keno]

Who cares ...

MJ > Both

Fight your bitter fan boy 2nd place argument till the ends of time.

chill playboy, give or take four more years until lebron is in sole possession of the number one spot.

[HOoopCityJones]

chill playboy, give or take four more years until lebron is in sole possession of the number one spot.

Not if he can't bounce back from that 61 pt performance.

Which only speaks volumes about the kinda player Bron is if one has to say something like that after a 61 point game.

[JT123]

Not if he can't bounce back from that 61 pt performance.

Which only speaks volumes about the kinda player Bron is if one has to say something like that after a 61 point game.
This is the regular season fool. When Bron is done playing do you really think anyone is going to remember these games? :oldlol:

[JT123]

Who cares ...

MJ > Both

Fight your bitter fan boy 2nd place argument till the ends of time.
Jordan is old and irrelevant, but keep living in 1997 if it makes you feel better.
:lol

[aj1987]

Oh god. Stop fighting, idiots. They both choked. LeBron choked and Kobe choked. Both had epic performances as well.

@SWISH, GOAT gonna GOAT thread is waiting for you.

[Keno]

Not if he can't bounce back from that 61 pt performance.

Which only speaks volumes about the kinda player Bron is if one has to say something like that after a 61 point game.

lebron is now based off of what he accomplishes in the post season.

[HOoopCityJones]

lebron is now based off of what he accomplishes in the post season.

Bulls, Nets , Pacers.

Wont be easy , and this time around no fear factor to play off of , no one fears these chumps this year.