Wife Didn't Know She Was Filming The Cops Killing Her Husband [VIDEO]

[ArbitraryWater]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbI5HHz7fJU


Very sickening... hard to watch. If you don't want to watch the Scene filmed by his Wife, skip it, they tell you what happened.

[Trollsmasher]

Hicktown

[ArbitraryWater]

****ing disgusting. They basically murdered someone for no reason. Those cops should get life sentences in jail. Since they are cops though, they'll probably only get 20-30 years.

They get suspended with pay.... paid holiday, sweet.

[MavsSuperFan]

This story is relatively old and very tragic.

IIRC the wife got in an argument with the daughter at a movie theater. (I think they considered the daughter a problem child, she was being rebellious, sneaking out, seeing guys they didnt like, etc)

the mother slaps the daughter. (also note the daughter is legally an adult, I believe she is 19) someone calls the cops because they think they are seeing abuse.

The cops respond, and based on their training they always go after the target they consider the biggest threat. In this case the father. They ask him for identification, he refuses and tells them to mind their own business as this is only a family problem. Anyways the cops than try to arrest him and he resists.

They force him on the ground and restrain him. In the process his breathing is either cut off or made extremely difficult. The father had weight issues to begin with and this plus the weight of 5 cops' knees on his back and restricting his arms (which cuts blood flow) probably resulted in his heart stopping.

this is the raw footage incase you were wondering
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em6wY5m3gFk

tyt imo lets too much of their biases get into stories like this sometimes watch the raw video. I could be wrong, but based on my reading the cops didnt beat him in the way tyt reported. He died while being restrained.

Its a tragic story, caused by several cultural differences. eg. disciplining kids vs child abuse, family matter vs providing documentation to cops.

[9erempiree]

Fvck the police.

This is why I cheer when the bad guys kill a cop.

It is a joyous moment when a cop is killed.

[D-FENS]

I hate The Young Turks. I hate seeing people talking about the video, just show me the video and let me make up my own damn mind

[ZenMaster]

Its a tragic story, caused by several cultural differences. eg. disciplining kids vs child abuse, family matter vs providing documentation to cops.

It's totally overboard police behavior that they are all sitting with their knees on him while pressing his head into the ground like that.

"well cops need to not get hurt" - But it's not black and white, in a situation like this they could at least let his head go and let him talk, they didn't need that many guys on him either after he's down. If he really was going to act out while on the ground a cop might get a bruise, but that's worth not killing a man like that.

How could the cops not know that it was the mother who hit her before they did this? The male might be the biggest threat upon arrival, but why isn't it more important to know what situation you're dealing with than the name of the only male? As long as he's not pulling a gun or attacking why is getting his ID more important than finding out why you've been called to the incident?

God damn that was disgusting to watch, I lost my own father a week ago today. Wouldn't wish upon anybody to have it happen like it did in that video, it's hard enough by itself.

[ArbitraryWater]

I hate The Young Turks. I hate seeing people talking about the video, just show me the video and let me make up my own damn mind

I don't see whats wrong with TYT... also they always add to the discussion with valid points.

[ArbitraryWater]

It's totally overboard police behavior that they are all sitting with their knees on him while pressing his head into the ground like that.

"well cops need to not get hurt" - But it's not black and white, in a situation like this they could at least let his head go and let him talk, they didn't need that many guys on him either after he's down. If he really was going to act out while on the ground a cop might get a bruise, but that's worth not killing a man like that.

How could the cops not know that it was the mother who hit her before they did this? The male might be the biggest threat upon arrival, but why isn't it more important to know what situation you're dealing with than the name of the only male? As long as he's not pulling a gun or attacking why is getting his ID more important than finding out why you've been called to the incident?

God damn that was disgusting to watch, I lost my own father a week ago today. Wouldn't wish upon anybody to have it happen like it did in that video, it's hard enough by itself.

It was hard to watch... and yeah, they didn't even have a reason to ask/get the ID... and if its not given to them, then don't fkn beat him up. Why not calmly put his hands on the back, arrest him for an hour or so to sort it out, and TALK. And even that wouldn't have been necessary, the Guy wasnt even involved in the conflict.

TOTALLY uncalled for and just sad

[MavsSuperFan]

It's totally overboard police behavior that they are all sitting with their knees on him while pressing his head into the ground like that.

"well cops need to not get hurt" - But it's not black and white, in a situation like this they could at least let his head go and let him talk, they didn't need that many guys on him either after he's down. If he really was going to act out while on the ground a cop might get a bruise, but that's worth not killing a man like that.

How could the cops not know that it was the mother who hit her before they did this? The male might be the biggest threat upon arrival, but why isn't it more important to know what situation you're dealing with than the name of the only male? As long as he's not pulling a gun or attacking why is getting his ID more important than finding out why you've been called to the incident?

God damn that was disgusting to watch, I lost my own father a week ago today. Wouldn't wish upon anybody to have it happen like it did in that video, it's hard enough by itself.


It's totally overboard police behavior that they are all sitting with their knees on him while pressing his head into the ground like that.

Thats how cops are trained to restrain people resisting arrest. Get them face down and put a knee to the small of the back, while forcing the arms behind their back and cuffing them.

Perhaps their training needs to be modified. Im just providing another perspective. IIRC the cops in this case didnt start bashing the fathers skull with nightsticks or tasing him. He died while being restrained.


How could the cops not know that it was the mother who hit her before they did this? The male might be the biggest threat upon arrival, but why isn't it more important to know what situation you're dealing with than the name of the only male? As long as he's not pulling a gun or attacking why is getting his ID more important than finding out why you've been called to the incident?

Thats how cops always react. One of my brothers is a cop. He is trained to always arrest the male in a domestic disturbance case if the situation seems uncontrollable/not calmed down yet. there have been cases where the male shows clear signs of being injured, Eg, deep scratches that draw blood from the face, bite marks, etc. and yet it is the husband/boyfriend that gets removed to the police station to allow the situation to calm down.

I am 70% sure that if Luis Rodriguez had provided identification the cops would have given him a chance to talk. Instead he refused and basically told the cops to mind their own business, because he considered it a family matter.

To the cops they were investigating a case of abuse/assault. They made the decision to arrest Rodriguez and detain him. 99% sure if he complied and surrendered he would have been take to the police station and released several hours later, when the cops were sure he had done nothing wrong.

[MavsSuperFan]

It was hard to watch... and yeah, they didn't even have a reason to ask/get the ID... and if its not given to them, then don't fkn beat him up. Why not calmly put his hands on the back, arrest him for an hour or so to sort it out, and TALK. And even that wouldn't have been necessary, the Guy wasnt even involved in the conflict.

TOTALLY uncalled for and just sad
According to every report he resisted arrest.

[PistonsFan#21]

According to every report he resisted arrest.

what was he arrested for?

[ZenMaster]

Thats how cops are trained to restrain people resisting arrest. Get them face down and put a knee to the small of the back, while forcing the arms behind their back and cuffing them.

Perhaps their training needs to be modified. Im just providing another perspective. IIRC the cops in this case didnt start bashing the fathers skull with nightsticks or tasing him. He died while being restrained.



Thats how cops always react. One of my brothers is a cop. He is trained to always arrest the male in a domestic disturbance case if the situation seems uncontrollable/not calmed down yet. there have been cases where the male shows clear signs of being injured, Eg, deep scratches that draw blood from the face, bite marks, etc. and yet it is the husband/boyfriend that gets removed to the police station to allow the situation to calm down.

I am 70% sure that if Luis Rodriguez had provided identification the cops would have given him a chance to talk. Instead he refused and basically told the cops to mind their own business, because he considered it a family matter.

To the cops they were investigating a case of abuse/assault. They made the decision to arrest Rodriguez and detain him. 99% sure if he complied and surrendered he would have been take to the police station and released several hours later, when the cops were sure he had done nothing wrong.

Yeah like I said totally overboard, I saw the video and right after they got him cuffed he was rather calm, then they collectively chocked him out.

That the training you describe is non-sensical you can't really question, going after the male instead of seperating all involved parties asking what happened...you know, defuse the situation..

But the biggest thing is how they don't use common sense when restraining this guy, killing him right before his family. Why couldn't that guy holding down his head just let go and listen to what he had to say? The guy moaned, wasn't moving and they just chocked him out.

[MavsSuperFan]

I don't see whats wrong with TYT... also they always add to the discussion with valid points.
Tyt allows their bias to influence the facts about their reporting.

Eg. in this story they claimed that Luis Rodiguez was beat to death. He died while being restrained.

In another case a death row inmate wrote a letter decrying the death penalty. They reported the case in a way that made it seem like he wasn't directly involved in the murder. they were very sympathetic to the inmate. later they amended their original report saying how they inmate sliced the victim's throat and called out to his accomplice to come over and stab the victim to death.

Bias is fine when it comes to analysis, but if it affects how you deliver the facts you are no better than fox news.


what was he arrested for?
-some one called the cops when the daughter was slapped by the mom.
-cops showed up asked Luis Rodriguez for ID
-Rodriguez refused.

Thats enough reason for people to be detained under our laws. I believe the period a person can be detained without reason varies by state but always is under 24 hours.

[MavsSuperFan]

Yeah like I said totally overboard, I saw the video and right after they got him cuffed he was rather calm, then they collectively chocked him out.

That the training you describe is non-sensical you can't really question, going after the male instead of seperating all involved parties asking what happened...you know, defuse the situation..

But the biggest thing is how they don't use common sense when restraining this guy, killing him right before his family. Why couldn't that guy holding down his head just let go and listen to what he had to say? The guy moaned, wasn't moving and they just chocked him out.
1. I dont see choking the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnqtZhaZzak

The cops put a lot of pressure and stress on a man, who lets be honest probably didnt have the best cardiovascular health.

2. I think you are going to be very upset when IA comes back and clears the cops.

[Rasheed1]

Tyt allows their bias to influence the facts about their reporting.

Eg. in this story they claimed that Luis Rodiguez was beat to death. He died while being restrained.

In another case a death row inmate wrote a letter decrying the death penalty. They reported the case in a way that made it seem like he wasn't directly involved in the murder. they were very sympathetic to the inmate. later they amended their original report saying how they inmate sliced the victim's throat and called out to his accomplice to come over and stab the victim to death.

Bias is fine when it comes to analysis, but if it affects how you deliver the facts you are no better than fox news.


-some one called the cops when the daughter was slapped by the mom.
-cops showed up asked Luis Rodriguez for ID
-Rodriguez refused.

Thats enough reason for people to be detained under our laws. I believe the period a person can be detained without reason varies by state but always is under 24 hours.

Too many times cops are mindless.. They catch an attitude when someone doesn't bow down to them and things like this happen..

My brother in law is a cop, and while he is cool with me, he has the typical cop mentality like he is the master of the universe.

Too many times cops tend to power trip and cause more problems than they solve

[iamgine]

There's a reason cops act like this

at first they had good intentions

but they had to deal with assholes everyday

who doesn't appreciate their good intentions

so after a while

they got mad

they start getting sensitive

they harbor bad feelings

feelings they don't know how to deal with

because they're men

and men doesn't catch feelings

they start to generalize

i wont have me treated that way

fantasizing about revenge

so the next time they see an asshole

they wanna teach him

a lesson

it feels good

it's natural

and cops are regular people

[ZenMaster]

1. I dont see choking the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnqtZhaZzak

The cops put a lot of pressure and stress on a man, who lets be honest probably didnt have the best cardiovascular health.

2. I think you are going to be very upset when IA comes back and clears the cops.

He died from not being able to breathe right? They sat on him and held his face directly into the ground long enough that he died. Collective choke out.

I don't even know what you're arguing. A weak man not in good health and they need 5 guys to "put a lot of stress and pressure on him"? For what? So he couldn't move an inch at all?

It's OK that you know a cop, I know a few as well. But that doesn't make what happened in that video right.

[PHX_Phan]

Lol at Mavs defending the cops. Pretty sure they are in the wrong when the dude dies.

Kind of hard to say 'but he was resisting!' when he was being strangled to death. Most people resist when they are being murdered.

I hope this event mentally tortures all those cops and they learn to keep their power trip controlled next time, since unfortunately there will likely be a next time for them.

[ace23]

Man. :facepalm

[longtime lurker]

Tyt allows their bias to influence the facts about their reporting.

Eg. in this story they claimed that Luis Rodiguez was beat to death. He died while being restrained.

In another case a death row inmate wrote a letter decrying the death penalty. They reported the case in a way that made it seem like he wasn't directly involved in the murder. they were very sympathetic to the inmate. later they amended their original report saying how they inmate sliced the victim's throat and called out to his accomplice to come over and stab the victim to death.

Bias is fine when it comes to analysis, but if it affects how you deliver the facts you are no better than fox news.


-some one called the cops when the daughter was slapped by the mom.
-cops showed up asked Luis Rodriguez for ID
-Rodriguez refused.

Thats enough reason for people to be detained under our laws. I believe the period a person can be detained without reason varies by state but always is under 24 hours.

You can't be serious with that comparison :facepalm

[MMM]

Arrested for not showing ID???
Seems like he died from positional asphyxiation not sure how the actual beating contributed, but obviously better training needs to take place. 5 officers to take down one man is overkill, I understand valuing cops safety and lives but they seems to be pretty reckless with the lives of people they protect.

[MavsSuperFan]

Lol at Mavs defending the cops. Pretty sure they are in the wrong when the dude dies.

Kind of hard to say 'but he was resisting!' when he was being strangled to death. Most people resist when they are being murdered.

I hope this event mentally tortures all those cops and they learn to keep their power trip controlled next time, since unfortunately there will likely be a next time for them.
I am not the type that defends the cops in any and all circumstances.

Eg. a while ago in ny cops beat into a coma a man that would not let them search his car. The cops didn't have a warrant. Also I think there is a lot wrong with our police system, structurally. Eg. incentivizing the number of convictions, which basically encourages cops to go after drug users.

I am defending these cops in this specific case because:

1. the cops were called out, its not like the targeted this family for no reason. They got a report that it was a domestic abuse case.

2. The cops tried to get the Rodriguez family to cooperate, but the dad insisted it was not their business (which is the number one excuse for domestic abuse) and it was a family matter.

3. Cops tried to take the father into custody (which often happens in domestic disturbance cases) he resisted. They pepper sprayed him and wrestled him onto the ground, putting their weight on him and cuffing his arms behind has back, as they are trained to do.

The vast majority of people would not have died with this treatment.
The cops didnt tase him multiple times.
The cops didnt bash his skull in with nightsticks.
etc.


He died from not being able to breathe right? They sat on him and held his face directly into the ground long enough that he died. Collective choke out.

I don't even know what you're arguing. A weak man not in good health and they need 5 guys to "put a lot of stress and pressure on him"? For what? So he couldn't move an inch at all?

It's OK that you know a cop, I know a few as well. But that doesn't make what happened in that video right.

Placing a knee on the back is how cops are trained to subdue guys that resist arrest. The vast majority of people wouldnt die from that. They arent slaming their knees into someones back they are placing it there.

Cops go up to a guy they want to take into custody and tell him to assume the position. They want him to surrender. If he doesnt they try to place his arms behind his back and try to cuff him, if he resists, they take him down.

I never said Luis Rodriguez was physically weak, I said judging by the fact he died and his appearance, his heart was probably not in the best condition. its entirely possible to have great cardiovascular health, but weak upper body strength. As it is also possible to be extremely strong, upper body wise, but have clogged arteries/trouble breathing.

[Rasheed1]

@mavs

All of what you said is duly noted… But you have to admit that ultimately the cops made a bad situation worse.. What was a simple family dispute turns into someone's death when they show up..

There is no logical reason for this man to be killed simply because he refused to show ID

whatever excuse the cops give (i.e. They were following proper protocols/training) doesn't float because the results are tragic..

I think people see this stuff and that is why so many people hate the police.. They don't seem to use common sense sometimes

I mean, c'mon the one cop has his knee on the guy's head :biggums: WTF??

[ArbitraryWater]

@mavs: You justify alot for them on the arresting thing, what about them choking him to death? You also say there was no beating, and as false reporting by TYT... did you read/see the daughers quote? That was ugly.

[bdreason]

Sorry, but not providing the police with a form of ID when there are no charges being pressed against me isn't a crime. The police cannot just arrest people without probable cause, and not providing an ID is not probable cause.

[ZenMaster]

I am not the type that defends the cops in any and all circumstances.

Eg. a while ago in ny cops beat into a coma a man that would not let them search his car. The cops didn't have a warrant. Also I think there is a lot wrong with our police system, structurally. Eg. incentivizing the number of convictions, which basically encourages cops to go after drug users.

I am defending these cops in this specific case because:

1. the cops were called out, its not like the targeted this family for no reason. They got a report that it was a domestic abuse case.

2. The cops tried to get the Rodriguez family to cooperate, but the dad insisted it was not their business (which is the number one excuse for domestic abuse) and it was a family matter.

3. Cops tried to take the father into custody (which often happens in domestic disturbance cases) he resisted. They pepper sprayed him and wrestled him onto the ground, putting their weight on him and cuffing his arms behind has back, as they are trained to do.

The vast majority of people would not have died with this treatment.
The cops didnt tase him multiple times.
The cops didnt bash his skull in with nightsticks.
etc.



Placing a knee on the back is how cops are trained to subdue guys that resist arrest. The vast majority of people wouldnt die from that. They arent slaming their knees into someones back they are placing it there.

Cops go up to a guy they want to take into custody and tell him to assume the position. They want him to surrender. If he doesnt they try to place his arms behind his back and try to cuff him, if he resists, they take him down.

I never said Luis Rodriguez was physically weak, I said judging by the fact he died and his appearance, his heart was probably not in the best condition. its entirely possible to have great cardiovascular health, but weak upper body strength. As it is also possible to be extremely strong, upper body wise, but have clogged arteries/trouble breathing.

You have to use common sense.

The cops where there and could see his appearence as well, so they should use common sense and let the guy breathe once he's on the ground.
Common sense would tell you that any guy overweight has a bigger chance of choking when fully pressed by 5 guys towards the ground. The extra body mass means a bigger chance that airways to mouth and nose get closed.

On top of that you never know who might be sick and have a bad heart, a lot of people though in his age range with the same physical appearance has some sort of ailment that would make the way cops restrain a lot more painful than for somebody without a pre-existing injury.
They should also take into account how much energy the man they're restraining has spent before arrest, if he's breathing heavy he also has a bigger chance of choking.
The man was pepper sprayed, that increases heart rate.

5 guys with knees in his back and pressing his face in the ground is excessive force given the circumstances.

[ballup]

Why pin him to the ground instead of the car?

[D-FENS]

I don't see whats wrong with TYT... also they always add to the discussion with valid points.

It's just boring. It's like looking at a Yahoo video and seeing some idiot go on and on at the start of the video. They entice you with headlines and then pretend to be some kind of big hotshots that talk about what's going on.

This is not college. This is Sparta! And I don;t give a shit about what some fear-mongering bias Jews have to say about current events. Let me make up my own damn mind!

[CelticBaller]

shit thats my cousins name

[WillyJakk]

The family should use some of the money they'll be awarded from a wrongful death lawsuit to hire a hitman (preferably Golgo 13) to kill all 5 of those cops who murdered this poor man whose biggest crime was defending/ protecting his daughter and wife from the fuzz who I'm sure he thought they were after since they were the ones who in fact had the altercation.

[TheGreatBlaze]

Fvck the police.

This is why I cheer when the bad guys kill a cop.

It is a joyous moment when a cop is killed.
My dad was a cop. Not all cops are bad.

[Wally450]

Fvck the police.

This is why I cheer when the bad guys kill a cop.

It is a joyous moment when a cop is killed.

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm