View Full Version : Myth: Miami had an easy road to the finals last 2 seasons (EC)
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 10:59 AM
Many members in here complain because Miami plays in east. They say they had an easier roads to the finals. Let s look a that.
2012:
Before the finals, Heat played 18 games . ( including a tough 7 games series with Celtics)
OKC played 15 games.
2013:
Heat played 16 games ( including a tough 7 games series with Pacers)
Spurs played 14 games ( 2 sweeps).
Yeah, easier road to the finals. :facepalm
MichaelCorleone
03-17-2014, 11:00 AM
Anything to discredit Lebron James right?
Yao Ming's Foot
03-17-2014, 11:01 AM
You don't get bonus points for not being able to beat weaker teams in fewer games.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:02 AM
You don't get bonus points for not being able to beat weaker teams in fewer games.
''weak'' is subjective.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:03 AM
Anything to discredit Lebron James right?
Yeah, refs help + easy road to the finals are both myths created by Lebron haters.
Yao Ming's Foot
03-17-2014, 11:03 AM
''weak'' is subjective.
"Weak" as in their demonstrated ability to win games over an 82 game sample size.
Done_And_Done
03-17-2014, 11:08 AM
No.
With the exception of Indiana and to a lesser degree Boston, the Heat haven't faced a formidable opponent during their trek to the finals. That's no slight against their accomplishments as much as it is a fact. Last year, they literally steamrolled through the Bucks and the injury laden Bulls until they finally encountered friction with Indy.
You can layout out the pre-post season blueprint until your face matches its color. The fact of the matter is, the team that succeeds through the Western conference will have a chunk of flesh bitten out of them to get there.
Get over it kiddo...
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:08 AM
"Weak" as in their demonstrated ability to win games over an 82 game sample size.
Playoffs are all about match ups. Regular season record doesnt matter.
OKC who had way more wins than Celtics in the regular season was an easier opponent for Miami because of match ups.
Yao Ming's Foot
03-17-2014, 11:09 AM
Playoffs are all about match ups. Regular season record doesnt matter.
OKC who had way more wins than Celtics in the regular season was an easier opponent for Miami because of match ups.
That's "subjective"
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:10 AM
No.
With the exception of Indiana and to a lesser degree Boston, the Heat haven't faced a formidable opponent during their trek to the finals. That's no slight against their accomplishments as much as it is a fact. Last year, they literally steamrolled through the Bucks and the injury laden Bulls until they finally encountered friction with Indy.
You can layout out the pre-post season blueprint until your face matches its color. The fact of the matter is, the team that succeeds through the Western conference will have a chunk of flesh bitten out of them to get there.
Get over it kiddo...
:facepalm
Spurs only faced competition against Warriors.
OKC faced competition against Spurs.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:11 AM
That's "subjective"
:applause:
well, that s what i was saying.
The strength of a playoffs opponent is subjective.
Done_And_Done
03-17-2014, 11:13 AM
:facepalm
Spurs only faced competition against Warriors.
OKC faced competition against Spurs.
You're seriously trying to argue right now that the Heat have a steeper path to the finals?
Take that palm and descend it downward to your neck. Once contact has been achieved, proceed to squeeze until death becomes the result.
Done_And_Done
03-17-2014, 11:17 AM
:applause:
well, that s what i was saying.
The strength of a playoffs opponent is subjective.
In the NBA = objectivity > subjectivity
Don't make me draw a visual/statistical analysis which substantiates why the East has been beyond inferior to its Western counterpart for ages.
Crawl back into your troll cove...
TiagoSimoes
03-17-2014, 11:17 AM
East is a joke. face it
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:17 AM
You're seriously trying to argue right now that the Heat have a steeper path to the finals?
Take that palm and descend it downward to your neck. Once contact has been achieved, proceed to squeeze until death becomes the result.
Yeah, they had a harder path to the finals. As I said, the strength of opponent is subjective. From Heat s perspective, their toughest opponent came from East during 2012 playoffs. Celtics were their toughest even if they had less wins than OKC.
Yao Ming's Foot
03-17-2014, 11:18 AM
:applause:
well, that s what i was saying.
The strength of a playoffs opponent is subjective.
If you conveniently ignore all objective data. :oldlol:
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:20 AM
In the NBA = objectivity > subjectivity
Don't make me draw a visual/statistical analysis which substantiates why the East has been beyond inferior to its Western counterpart for ages.
Crawl back into your troll cove...
I posted objective stats in my first post of the thread. As you can see, Heat played more games than both OKC and Spurs in their road to the finals. This is why they had a tougher road to the finals.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:21 AM
East is a joke. face it
Which why Heat had to play 7 tough games against the Celtics and then, in the finals, Heat beat the best team in the West in 5? :oldlol: :oldlol:
Yeah, a joke.
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:22 AM
So they struggled against weak teams?
That's a leadership problem. LeBron has no sense of urgency and he isn't a true competitor.
Thunder beat the defending champs, Lakers, and the Spurs.
All tougher than any series Miami played.
Then, once the finals came around, OKC was jobbed by the refs in game 2 and every game after that. The numbers back it up.
Your boy has 2 asterisk rings and will never be considered a winner.
:applause:
Joyner82reload
03-17-2014, 11:22 AM
Many members in here complain because Miami plays in east. They say they had an easier roads to the finals. Let s look a that.
2012:
Before the finals, Heat played 18 games . ( including a tough 7 games series with Celtics)
OKC played 15 games.
2013:
Heat played 16 games ( including a tough 7 games series with Pacers)
Spurs played 14 games ( 2 sweeps).
Yeah, easier road to the finals. :facepalm
Heat played
36-30 New York Knicks with no Jeremy Lin, an injured Amare(he was still good then), and Tyson Chandler who was freaking sick with the flu
42-24 Indiana Pacers whose best player was Danny Granger
39-27 Boston Celtics who were taken to 7 by the 35-31 76ers with a well past prime Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett
Thunder played
2011 defending champion Mavericks(Dirk)
2009 and 2010 NBA Champion Lakers(Kobe)
2007 NBA Champion Spurs who had won 20 straight games at that point, were the favorites to win the title, and had the best damn record in the league(Duncan)
And you're really going to sit here and tell me Miami had a harder path to the Finals?
If OKC would have beaten Miami, they would have beaten the players that were either the best player or 2nd best player on the 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 NBA Champions. And all of them were still playing at a high level. They had to go through 5 top 25-30 players all time that were still making All NBA teams.
:biggums:
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:24 AM
Heat played
36-30 New York Knicks with no Jeremy Lin, an injured Amare(he was still good then), and Tyson Chandler who was freaking sick with the flu
42-24 Indiana Pacers whose best player was Danny Granger
39-27 Boston Celtics who were taken to 7 by the 35-31 76ers with a well past prime Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett
Thunder played
2011 defending champion Mavericks(Dirk)
2009 and 2010 NBA Champion Lakers(Kobe)
2007 NBA Champion Spurs who had won 20 straight games at that point, were the favorites to win the title, and had the best damn record in the league(Duncan)
And you're really going to sit here and tell me Miami had a harder path to the Finals?
If OKC would have beaten Miami, they would have beaten the players that were either the best player or 2nd best player on the 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 NBA Champions
:biggums:
As I said, the opponent s strength is subjective. It s all about matchups in the playoffs. In 2012, both Pacers and Celtics were tougher opponents for Heat than OKC because of match ups. Heat and Lebron always had OKC and Durant s numbers.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:25 AM
So they struggled against weak teams?
That's a leadership problem. LeBron has no sense of urgency and he isn't a true competitor.
Thunder beat the defending champs, Lakers, and the Spurs.
All tougher than any series Miami played.
Then, once the finals came around, OKC was jobbed by the refs in game 2 and every game after that. The numbers back it up.
Your boy has 2 asterisk rings and will never be considered a winner.
:applause:
none of them went to 7 games, so none of them were tougher than that celtics series.
The rest of your post is shit as usual.
dunksby
03-17-2014, 11:27 AM
Heat coasted to the playoffs that's why they lost games. Aint that the reason every time the Heat lose?
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:28 AM
Celtics and Thunder were jobbed in 2012.
I'm not a conspiracy guy but that year was clearly rigged for LeBron James.
The NBA is a business. NBA had too much invested in his marketability and image for him flake out again.
They knew him winning in Miami would generate more money for the league.
They don't always rig games... hell, it only happens on rare occasions. 2012 was one of them
Joyner82reload
03-17-2014, 11:28 AM
As I said, the opponent s strength is subjective. It s all about matchups in the playoffs. In 2012, both Pacers and Celtics were tougher opponent for Heat than OKC because of match ups. Heat and Lebron always had OKC and Durant s numbers.
The only fvcking team in the league that could matchup and can actually beat the Thunder in a 7 games series was Miami that year. Hell no one else stood a chance at beating them. As soon as OKC figured out SA, they roflstomped them to a backdoor sweep after SA won 20 straight, and 31 out of 32, including winning their 1st 10 playoff games.
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:31 AM
none of them went to 7 games, so none of them were tougher than that celtics series.
The rest of your post is shit as usual.
Just like they should have finished off the Mavs in 4 and the Spurs in 4 or 5.
Your boy is not a leader or a competitor and his team ALWAYS underachieves.
You stan for the biggest underachiever in NBA history. Congrats fat boy. :oldlol:
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:31 AM
If you conveniently ignore all objective data. :oldlol:
Their record against other teams in the regular season has nothing to do with thier match up with Heat. In 2007, 8 seed Warriors were a matchup nightmare for the 1st seed Mavs. From Mavs s perspective, Warriors were tougher than higher seed teams. The regular season record has nothing to do.
dunksby
03-17-2014, 11:31 AM
Celtics and Thunder were jobbed in 2012.
I'm not a conspiracy guy but that year was clearly rigged for LeBron James.
The NBA is a business. NBA had too much invested in his marketability and image for him flake out again.
They knew him winning in Miami would generate more money for the league.
They don't always rig games... hell, it only happens on rare occasions. 2012 was one of them
The refs didn't make the buckets for the Heat's role players, we lost the game to their edge at that department.
HoopsFanNumero1
03-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Heat played
36-30 New York Knicks with no Jeremy Lin, an injured Amare(he was still good then), and Tyson Chandler who was freaking sick with the flu
42-24 Indiana Pacers whose best player was Danny Granger
39-27 Boston Celtics who were taken to 7 by the 35-31 76ers with a well past prime Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett
Thunder played
2011 defending champion Mavericks(Dirk)
2009 and 2010 NBA Champion Lakers(Kobe)
2007 NBA Champion Spurs who had won 20 straight games at that point, were the favorites to win the title, and had the best damn record in the league(Duncan)
And you're really going to sit here and tell me Miami had a harder path to the Finals?
If OKC would have beaten Miami, they would have beaten the players that were either the best player or 2nd best player on the 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2010, and 2011 NBA Champions. And all of them were still playing at a high level. They had to go through 5 top 25-30 players all time that were still making All NBA teams.
:biggums:
Dirk and Kobe were washed up by then and both teams were a shell of their former selves. And lol at mentioning the 2007 championship. What relevance does that have to the '12 season?
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:32 AM
Celtics and Thunder were jobbed in 2012.
I'm not a conspiracy guy but that year was clearly rigged for LeBron James.
The NBA is a business. NBA had too much invested in his marketability and image for him flake out again.
They knew him winning in Miami would generate more money for the league.
They don't always rig games... hell, it only happens on rare occasions. 2012 was one of them
Not only your off-topic, but what you re saying is pure lies.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:35 AM
The only fvcking team in the league that could matchup and can actually beat the Thunder in a 7 games series was Miami that year. Hell no one else stood a chance at beating them. As soon as OKC figured out SA, they roflstomped them to a backdoor sweep after SA won 20 straight, and 31 out of 32, including winning their 1st 10 playoff games.
As I said, OKC was an easier matchup for Heat than Celtics and Pacers. The road to the finals is subjective. Celtics were a tougher opponent than OKC from Heat s perspective, but from Spurs perspective, OKC would have been a tougher opponent.
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:35 AM
The refs didn't make the buckets for the Heat's role players, we lost the game to their edge at that department.
very true, but the refs were clearly on their side.
Had OKC gone up 2-0, they win it all. The miss call on LeBron changed the whole landscape of sports.
LeBron has yet to win a decisive championship so I'll never put him in the same breathe as the greats. This dude can't get over the hump with by far the best supporting cast in the league.
Where is the leadership? The urgency?
MJ and Bird would eat this guy for breakfast, brunch, lunch, and dinner
Yao Ming's Foot
03-17-2014, 11:36 AM
Their record against other teams in the regular season has nothing to do with thier match up with Heat. In 2007, 8 seed Warriors were a matchup nightmare for the 1st seed Mavs. From Mavs s perspective, Warriors were tougher than higher seed teams. The regular season record has nothing to do.
That's why the Mavs were a laughingstock. You don't get to blame losses in the playoffs against weaker teams on "matchups".
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:37 AM
Dirk and Kobe were washed up by then and both teams were a shell of their former selves. And lol at mentioning the 2007 championship. What relevance does that have to the '12 season?
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:37 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg
Not rigged doe. :oldlol:
JohnFreeman
03-17-2014, 11:37 AM
very true, but the refs were clearly on their side.
Had OKC gone up 2-0, they win it all. The miss call on LeBron changed the whole landscape of sports.
LeBron has yet to win a decisive championship so I'll never put him in the same breathe as the greats. This dude can't get over the hump with by far the best supporting cast in the league.
Where is the leadership? The urgency?
MJ and Bird would eat this guy for breakfast, brunch, lunch, and dinner
Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka is pretty good..
Olacinco
03-17-2014, 11:38 AM
Livingpu$$y still scurred to use a dipo avatar :facepalm
What a btch :roll:
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:39 AM
That's why the Mavs were a laughingstock. You don't get to blame losses in the playoffs against weaker teams on "matchups".
As I said, weak is subjective. Warriors were strong from Mavs perspective.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:40 AM
Livingpu$$y still scurred to use a dipo avatar :facepalm
What a btch :roll:
Why did you disappear from that thead? :roll:
Couldnt answer my questions?:roll: :roll:
dunksby
03-17-2014, 11:41 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg
Not rigged doe. :oldlol:
I'd say both superstars got the benefit of calls in that game, I'd love to say the refs ****ed us over that night but can't say that with a straight face.
Yao Ming's Foot
03-17-2014, 11:41 AM
As I said, weak is subjective. Warriors were strong from Mavs perspective.
No its not. The Warriors were an 8th seed. Nothing subjective about that.
Olacinco
03-17-2014, 11:41 AM
Why did you disappear from that thead? :roll:
Couldnt answer my questions?:roll: :roll:
Cuz everyone was callin u out on your bitchassness that I didn't even have to reply :roll:
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:42 AM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg
Not rigged doe. :oldlol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2__e9FeMFg:oldlol: :oldlol:
He was fouled out way before.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:44 AM
Cuz everyone was callin u out on your bitchassness that I didn't even have to reply :roll:
Nobody could answer my questions.
Maybe you could have came to the rescue, to save the haters images. :oldlol: :oldlol:
TheMilkyBarKid
03-17-2014, 11:47 AM
I bet budaii still laughs at lebron 4th quarter jokes.
Move on dude, your fixation is disturbing and largely inaccurate.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:48 AM
No its not. The Warriors were an 8th seed. Nothing subjective about that.
They were 3-1 or 4-0 against the Mavs during the regular season.
Their record against other teams had nothing to do with their matchup against the Mavs.
HoopsFanNumero1
03-17-2014, 11:51 AM
They were 3-1 or 4-0 against the Mavs during the regular season.
Their record against other teams had nothing to do with their matchup against the Mavs.
Apparently the concept of matchups is too complex for some people to understand. Team record and DRtg is all that matters.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 11:53 AM
Apparently the concept of matchups is too complex for some people to understand. Team record and DRtg is all that matters.
That s because they dont think for themselves. All they do is repeat dumb things other people say.
AintNoSunshine
03-17-2014, 11:54 AM
"Weak" as in their demonstrated ability to win games over an 82 game sample size.
So whoever wins the most regular season games are the best team now? :oldlol:
Not that I expect kobe dikkriders to know much about basketball but this is basic stuff.
chazzy
03-17-2014, 11:55 AM
Their biggest battles were with their own health, not the strength of the east teams
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:55 AM
I bet budaii still laughs at lebron 4th quarter jokes.
Move on dude, your fixation is disturbing and largely inaccurate.
It is?
give me his 4th quarter stats over the last 5 games since I'm living in the past.
And it's not about his 4th quarter choking but mainly about his character. He's not a true competitor like MJ, Bird, Magic, Russell, Kobe, or Durant.
He has been a stand-out player since he was 5 years old because he was blessed with insane physical gifts.
he's a mental midget and an underachiever. Why would I be a fan? My dad taught me better.
Marlo_Stanfield
03-17-2014, 11:56 AM
Budadi still melting down i see.
get outta the sun nikka
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 11:59 AM
Budadi still melting down i see.
get outta the sun nikka
You have 3000 posts in a month 1/2. Go get IN the sun 'nikker'
:facepalm
T_L_P
03-17-2014, 12:01 PM
2001 Lakers played 11 games before they got to the Finals, going through the Trailblazers, Kings, and Spurs.
I guess they had the easiest road to the Finals of any team ever?
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 12:05 PM
2001 Lakers played 11 games before they got to the Finals, going through the Trailblazers, Kings, and Spurs.
I guess they had the easiest road to the Finals of any team ever?
yes, they were so good that all the match ups were easy from their perspective.
TiagoSimoes
03-17-2014, 12:09 PM
You have 3000 posts in a month 1/2. Go get IN the sun 'nikker'
:facepalm
http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20121007165231/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/2/2b/Apply_cold_water_to_burned_area.jpeg
Im Still Ballin
03-17-2014, 12:12 PM
2012 was extremely tough.
That Bosh injury + Wade knee issues + size matchup against pacers + boston homecourt game 6 + against homecourt in finals. Then multiply this by a million because of the scrutiny and immense pressure LBJ was under. I don't think i can remember another NBA player having so much pressure to perform, it's amazing how he succeeded in the end, given how the criticism was amplified ten fold after that 2011 finals performance.
2-1 down in 2nd round
3-2 down in ecf
1-0 down in finals
30/10/5 on 50%
Amazing.
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 12:14 PM
yes, they were so good that all the match ups were easy from their perspective.
Doesn't mean they had the easiest road, it just means they were that good.
heat still had an easy road compared to many other championship runs regardless of 'poor' matchups.
What don't you understand about that downey?
Marlo_Stanfield
03-17-2014, 12:19 PM
2012 was extremely tough.
That Bosh injury + Wade knee issues + size matchup against pacers + boston homecourt game 6 + against homecourt in finals. Then multiply this by a million because of the scrutiny and immense pressure LBJ was under. I don't think i can remember another NBA player having so much pressure to perform, it's amazing how he succeeded in the end, given how the criticism was amplified ten fold after that 2011 finals performance.
2-1 down in 2nd round
3-2 down in ecf
1-0 down in finals
30/10/5 on 50%
Amazing.
GOAT playoff run considering wades injury and the scrutinity AND insane stats as well as competition:bowdown: :bowdown: :applause:
CelticBaller
03-17-2014, 12:23 PM
You have 3000 posts in a month 1/2. Go get IN the sun 'nikker'
:facepalm
:applause:
oh the horror
03-17-2014, 12:29 PM
GOAT playoff run considering wades injury and the scrutinity AND insane stats as well as competition:bowdown: :bowdown: :applause:
So now you guys are re-writing the narrative to prop this team up to epic levels.
Ok.
HOoopCityJones
03-17-2014, 12:30 PM
2001 Lakers played 11 games before they got to the Finals, going through the Trailblazers, Kings, and Spurs.
I guess they had the easiest road to the Finals of any team ever?
Don't be ridiculous TLP. the 3 peat Lakers had one of the most difficult treks to the Finals, ever. The Western Conference alone was the real Finals and you damn well know it.
BLazers? Practically stacked.
Sacramento? They were the Thunder of the early 2000's
Spurs? a PRIME Spurs squad, Do I really need to go any further?
Not saying the Heat don't deserve all their credit, but you can't pretend like they haven't been blessed by certain circumstances, one being their weak ass conference where there's only 2 good Teams at a time, including them, key injuries to guys who would have proved tough competition and Team's just flat out beating themselves against them , despite having some clear advantage , usually size.
Again, not saying they don't deserve credit for pulling out the Wins , but I can't say Ive seen a series where Miami shouldn't of been the clear favorite to win.
livinglegend
03-17-2014, 12:31 PM
Doesn't mean they had the easiest road, it just means they were that good.
heat still had an easy road compared to many other championship runs regardless of 'poor' matchups.
What don't you understand about that downey?
I know what you re trying to say. I had the same perspective as you when i was much younger. Now, my brain is more developed and my thoughts are more evolved. Give it time. One day, you ll probably understand my perspective and you ll finally agree with me.
East is weak, but not in the playoffs. The two best teams are in the East right now, there will be the real Finals matchup, i think whoever wins the ECF will win the championship.
Im Still Ballin
03-17-2014, 12:36 PM
So now you guys are re-writing the narrative to prop this team up to epic levels.
Ok.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Get your ass out of the past, it's up there with some of the more impressive runs by championship teams in the new millennium
Trollsmasher
03-17-2014, 12:59 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg
Not rigged doe. :oldlol:
Is is that game in which Durant should've fouled out with 5 minutes left?
People never respond to this question
oh the horror
03-17-2014, 01:01 PM
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Get your ass out of the past, it's up there with some of the more impressive runs by championship teams in the new millennium
Lol not even close dude. Wtf you dudes are just making this shit up now.
Look man, they won two. It isn't their fault on who they've played. But don't sit there with a straight face and tell me they haven't been involved in some of the weaker competition in their conference in awhile now.
"Goat runs"
Come on now.
Budadiiii
03-17-2014, 01:23 PM
Lol not even close dude. Wtf you dudes are just making this shit up now.
Look man, they won two. It isn't their fault on who they've played. But don't sit there with a straight face and tell me they haven't been involved in some of the weaker competition in their conference in awhile now.
"Goat runs"
Come on now.
:applause:
No longer a salty poster. You've evolved.
edrick
03-17-2014, 01:25 PM
People love to ignore injuries to key players (Bosh, Wade) during the last two playoff runs. Also the fact that the playoffs are more about defense compared to the regular season. Which obviously both the Bulls and Pacers are good at. If George, Bynum, West, and Hibbert show up 4 of the 7 games, they have a great chance of winning.
sketchy
03-17-2014, 02:37 PM
You have 3000 posts in a month 1/2. Go get IN the sun 'nikker'
:facepalm
:eek: :eek: :eek:
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll:
This made me literally lol.
ArbitraryWater
03-17-2014, 06:09 PM
2013 was easy... this year probably will be too.
However, 2011&2012 was not.
Both Years, especially 2011 was loaded with the Celtics&Bulls. In 2012 the Pacers&Celtics.
Rocketswin2013
03-17-2014, 07:31 PM
Many members in here complain because Miami plays in east. They say they had an easier roads to the finals. Let s look a that.
2012:
Before the finals, Heat played 18 games . ( including a tough 7 games series with Celtics)
OKC played 15 games.
2013:
Heat played 16 games ( including a tough 7 games series with Pacers)
Spurs played 14 games ( 2 sweeps).
Yeah, easier road to the finals. :facepalm
What a shit argument.
Rose'sACL
03-17-2014, 07:42 PM
What a shit argument.
why? they got the worst match-ups possible in ECF and finals. OKC would have been an easier finals match-up.
Bosh got hurt in 2012 playoffs otherwise i would have agreed that they had an easy road in 2012. Bosh never got back to his pre-injury self even in the finals although he didn't need to.
SamuraiSWISH
03-17-2014, 07:46 PM
Best to Worst
2011 Mavericks
2012 Thunder
2011 Celtics
2011 Bulls
2013 Spurs
2012 Celtics
2013 Pacers
2012 Pacers
Heavincent
03-17-2014, 07:55 PM
I love how Lebron dick riders have the audacity to act like the East isn't a garbage heap. You get to play the ****ing Bucks in the first round last year, the second string Bulls squad in the second round, and this year they'll be probably be playing the Bobcats. Yet the dipshit OP sits here and tries to tell us how hard they had it.
West is obviously infinitely better than the shitty ass east. Everyone knows this, but Lebron dick riders like the OP try to put some kind of spin on it. Typical.
Eric Cartman
03-17-2014, 08:06 PM
I love how Lebron dick riders have the audacity to act like the East isn't a garbage heap. You get to play the ****ing Bucks in the first round last year, the second string Bulls squad in the second round, and this year they'll be probably be playing the Bobcats. Yet the dipshit OP sits here and tries to tell us how hard they had it.
West is obviously infinitely better than the shitty ass east. Everyone knows this, but Lebron dick riders like the OP try to put some kind of spin on it. Typical.
:lol Nate Robinson led Bulls punked Miami in game 1 last year.
:lol Nate Robinson led Bulls punked Miami in game 1 last year.
That was awesome. Nate Jordan! :roll:
Best to Worst
2011 Mavericks
2012 Thunder
2011 Celtics
2011 Bulls
2013 Spurs
2012 Celtics
2013 Pacers
2012 Pacers
nothing wrong with a little homerism eh swish? :lol
HoopsFanNumero1
03-17-2014, 08:12 PM
Best to Worst
2011 Mavericks
2012 Thunder
2011 Celtics
2011 Bulls
2013 Spurs
2012 Celtics
2013 Pacers
2012 Pacers
What a joke list. 2013 Spurs should be at the top. As should the '13 and '12 Pacers. You can move the '11 Bulls and '11 Celtics down while you're at it as well.
SamuraiSWISH
03-17-2014, 08:26 PM
nothing wrong with a little homerism eh swish? :lol
LOL, yea I know.
Bandito
03-17-2014, 09:42 PM
livingfggt is not banned yet?
tmacattack33
03-17-2014, 09:50 PM
In 2012, they did not have any easy road to the Finals, being that their third best player (and only big man with any skills at all besides Haslem) was out for two rounds.
In 2013, yes, they might have had an "easy" opponent in rounds 1 and 2.
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