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Heilige
03-17-2014, 10:38 PM
[QUOTE]Microsoft cofounder Bill Gates isn

knickballer
03-17-2014, 10:54 PM
1) Money becoming obsolete? Not in our lifetime and the elites won't allow it(notice how bitcoin got crushed). Money=Power which allows the elite to control the populace and by enslaving the populace through monetary measures.

2) Technology may take labor jobs but it will also add jobs as well.. People need to create, program, fix, install, etc. A whole new economy may emerge. I also doubt robots take over labor jobs like waiters or registers. They've been saying that for the past 15 years and it still hasn't been implemented. Are we going to have that robot from Rocky 4 serve us food at a restaurant lolz? I think we have a better chance of seeing basic desk jobs getting replaced by technology then a waiter

3) Don't know what you are trying to say about #2. The elite are going to use robots to massacre the 90% of the population because they are now useless???

Bosnian Sajo
03-17-2014, 11:11 PM
Good thing I'm in school for Engineering, I'll be the one making and upgrading the robots :D #noworries

Meticode
03-17-2014, 11:15 PM
Money is already obsolete if you take the definitely literally.

a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively.

So many places today are way more convenient to pay with via plastic.

ALBballer
03-17-2014, 11:28 PM
Oh please this is another attempt by Bill Gates to increase his profits similar to his plea a few years to bring in more foreign workers so he can lower the cost of American labor. Changing the tax code won't do much to save these jobs because a robot would cost significantly less than hiring an American worker. It's simple finance so save us the tax code argument.

What the government should be doing is spending more to building our infrastructure so our future workplace can adapt to the new marketplace. We can start by these corporations actually paying corporate income tax and stop the corporate welfare to invest in these programs.

sixerfan82
03-17-2014, 11:28 PM
Good thing I'm in school for Engineering, I'll be the one making and upgrading the robots :D #noworries

ford assembly line in the 21st century makes me worry man :/

things like shopify, squarespace and wordpress(although not custom solutions), are interesting alternatives to in house development.

ALBballer
03-18-2014, 12:53 AM
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23579829/ns/business-us_business/t/microsofts-bill-gates-asks-more-visas/#.UyfR6K1dXYd

Typical corporate welfare leech. Lower taxes, hire more foreign workers to replace US workers, give us more subsidies, poor corporations have it so bad.

Niytrus
03-18-2014, 02:34 AM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzs468o3K31rnua94o1_500.gif

Dizzle-2k7
03-18-2014, 04:09 AM
Money is already obsolete if you take the definitely literally.

a current medium of exchange in the form of coins and banknotes; coins and banknotes collectively.

So many places today are way more convenient to pay with via plastic.

:facepalm this is an absolute worthless post. and i know why you made it worthless.. because youre a sheep.

as for OP, based the way governments have been run the past half century, Id say option 2 is the most likely.. .damn :cry: :cry:

OhNoTimNoSho
03-18-2014, 09:08 AM
Money is made obsolete
Uh no. Money will never go away. Ever. Like never ever ever ever ever.

MavsSuperFan
03-18-2014, 12:34 PM
http://bgr.com/2014/03/14/bill-gates-interview-robots/



Two things happen in this end game.

1) Money is made obsolete due to no more jobs, no value on goods, no more income and therefore the value of money goes to zero. It is no longer useful. Mankind uses robots to create a wealth of resources for everyone. We start mining from other planets in the solar system. We get out there and explore. Everyone is fed, housed, etc for free. Again, money has no value. So there is no good reason not to. (Utopian Dream)

2) The powers that be use Robots to enslave mankind, a mass genocide ensues and there becomes but two classes. The masters and the slaves. History repeats itself. Why this? Because with the value of labor going to zero, humans and their value (in taxes) become redundant. So the oligarchs who control things no longer need us. (Distopian Nightmare)

Impossible, there is a significant portion of the population that hates the idea of food stamps. Literally hate that a small fraction of their income is being taken and given to others so they can eat.

MavsSuperFan
03-18-2014, 12:34 PM
:facepalm this is an absolute worthless post. and i know why you made it worthless.. because youre a sheep.

as for OP, based the way governments have been run the past half century, Id say option 2 is the most likely.. .damn :cry: :cry:
Its not the government its the people.

Nick Young
03-18-2014, 12:37 PM
Best part of a robot waiter: You don't have to tip:rockon:

CelticBaller
03-18-2014, 12:57 PM
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzs468o3K31rnua94o1_500.gif
:lol

magic chiongson
03-18-2014, 01:11 PM
Good thing I'm in school for Engineering, I'll be the one making and upgrading the robots :D #noworries

robots can make robots :/ r&d is another thing though

oarabbus
03-18-2014, 01:26 PM
Of course they will, and they should.

"11 Jobs that No Longer Exist"

http://imgur.com/a/S3lOX

The Iron Sheik
03-18-2014, 01:34 PM
2) Technology may take labor jobs but it will also add jobs as well.. People need to create, program, fix, install, etc. A whole new economy may emerge. I also doubt robots take over labor jobs like waiters or registers. They've been saying that for the past 15 years and it still hasn't been implemented. Are we going to have that robot from Rocky 4 serve us food at a restaurant lolz? I think we have a better chance of seeing basic desk jobs getting replaced by technology then a waiter



technology removes jobs but it doesn't always create new ones at the same rate. It's white collar america that will be hit harder by a significant advancement in technology tbh. menial service jobs will always have a spot for people, but lots of data management, calculations, typical "desk work" will be absorbed by machinery.

oarabbus
03-18-2014, 01:45 PM
technology removes jobs but it doesn't always create new ones at the same rate. It's white collar america that will be hit harder by a significant advancement in technology tbh. menial service jobs will always have a spot for people, but lots of data management, calculations, typical "desk work" will be absorbed by machinery.


Sure, but it's necessary for the development and progression of society. People said the same thing during both industrial revolutions, invention of the calculator, of the computer, etc.

CelticBaller
03-18-2014, 01:45 PM
robots can make robots :/ r&d is another thing though
Well, business school it is

Akrazotile
03-18-2014, 01:54 PM
Impossible, there is a significant portion of the population that hates the idea of food stamps. Literally hate that a small fraction of their income is being taken and given to others so they can eat.


A significant portion of the population hates the idea of holding other citizens accountable for themselves and insisting individuals bear the majority of responsibility for their own welfare. Literally hate that a healthy person might be asked to live off whatever compensation he can earn based on what he produces.

The Iron Sheik
03-18-2014, 02:27 PM
A significant portion of the population hates the idea of holding other citizens accountable for themselves and insisting individuals bear the majority of responsibility for their own welfare. Literally hate that a healthy person might be asked to live off whatever compensation he can earn based on what he produces.

you're right. kill kids and old people. they don't do shit. they just leech. it's also nice how society always accommodates to everyone's wages so that they can "live within their means"

Akrazotile
03-18-2014, 03:08 PM
you're right. kill kids and old people. they don't do shit. they just leech. it's also nice how society always accommodates to everyone's wages so that they can "live within their means"


WEAK era for strawmen

DCL
03-18-2014, 03:23 PM
robots replacing humans in manufacturing and other fields? this isn't news.

ZenMaster
03-18-2014, 03:31 PM
1) Money becoming obsolete? Not in our lifetime and the elites won't allow it(notice how bitcoin got crushed). Money=Power which allows the elite to control the populace and by enslaving the populace through monetary measures.

2) Technology may take labor jobs but it will also add jobs as well.. People need to create, program, fix, install, etc. A whole new economy may emerge. I also doubt robots take over labor jobs like waiters or registers. They've been saying that for the past 15 years and it still hasn't been implemented. Are we going to have that robot from Rocky 4 serve us food at a restaurant lolz? I think we have a better chance of seeing basic desk jobs getting replaced by technology then a waiter

3) Don't know what you are trying to say about #2. The elite are going to use robots to massacre the 90% of the population because they are now useless???

There's 0% chance that technology will create the same amount of jobs it takes away, if that was the case there'd be no reason to invest and develop a lot of that technology to begin with.

It's comfortable for you to make a joke about future waiters like Rocky 4, but what Gates probably means are all the people who take your orders at fast food restaurants. There's a huge amount of people working in this sector, and the vast majority of these people won't be programming or installing anything when it's time to look for a new job that in reality doesn't exist for them.

The world as we know it will be in for some big changes the next couple hundred years. The way tehcnology is rising along with the amount of people living in the world, it won't add up.

The Iron Sheik
03-18-2014, 03:42 PM
WEAK era for strawmen

excuse my tone, i just thought you were being sarcastic. at least i hope.

It's A VC3!!!
03-18-2014, 04:12 PM
Retail banks will face the same dilemma within the next 10 years as well. Banking kiosks will replace 50% to 70% of the current tellers and at least 20% of the personal bankers. These roles will never become obsolete only because there are those that still like the human interaction but they will be vastly diminished. It is sad that machines and robots are taking jobs away from the people but as Bill Gates said, these are primarily the lowest-paying jobs within the company. Some are high-paying jobs but most involve the "bottom of the food chain employees".

bdreason
03-19-2014, 02:37 AM
This isn't something new. Manufacturing jobs have already become mostly automated.


I think Bill underestimates the backlash of unemployed/desperate Americans though. People in this country are spoiled, and have been raised to look for shortcuts, and take what they want. A revolt/rebellion in the United States will be violent and unstoppable... unless the government/elite are prepared to murder hundreds of thousands of people to maintain control.

The Iron Sheik
03-19-2014, 10:17 AM
This isn't something new. Manufacturing jobs have already become mostly automated.


I think Bill underestimates the backlash of unemployed/desperate Americans though. People in this country are spoiled, and have been raised to look for shortcuts, and take what they want. A revolt/rebellion in the United States will be violent and unstoppable... unless the government/elite are prepared to murder hundreds of thousands of people to maintain control.

wait, how does not wanting your job taken away from you make you spoiled and looking for shortcuts?

mlh1981
03-19-2014, 07:51 PM
As an educator, I can envision a day where much of the education process takes place online.

longtime lurker
03-19-2014, 08:16 PM
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/23579829/ns/business-us_business/t/microsofts-bill-gates-asks-more-visas/#.UyfR6K1dXYd

Typical corporate welfare leech. Lower taxes, hire more foreign workers to replace US workers, give us more subsidies, poor corporations have it so bad.

Typical of the corporate mentality. Yes more corporate tax breaks is really going to stop companies from cutting workers and automating anyways :lol these guys are absolutely shameless.

What the government should do is close the loopholes for corporate taxes and start reinvesting in education and worker retraining