Phil Jackson is washed up and wont accomplish anything with the knicks.

[nathanjizzle]

He was one of the greatest coaches, but every man has to learn that we loose our talents and ambition when we get older. Basketball players suck when they get older, so do coaches, so does every man that was great at something. Phil Jackson isnt changing the Knicks.

[Upgrayedd]

How is he washed up? He just coached the Lakers to the finals in '08, and back to back championships in 2009 and 2010. Pretty recent.

He's not coaching again. He's going to be sitting behind the scenes this time and putting together a team. Way easier than sitting on the sidelines coaching.

This thread is stupid.

[Clyde]

He was one of the greatest coaches, but every man has to learn that we loose our talents and ambition when we get older. Basketball players suck when they get older, so do coaches, so does every man that was great at something. Phil Jackson isnt changing the Knicks.


Old coaches suck?

:lol

[Upgrayedd]

I wish Phil Jackson had come to the Bulls and replaced Forman. Bulls already have a great coach with Thibs, and they're more ready than the Knicks to potentially win a championship soon. Phil could have come to Chicago and this summer helped them sign a big star like Melo.

[nathanjizzle]

I wish Phil Jackson had come to the Bulls and replaced Forman. Bulls already have a great coach with Thibs, and they're more ready than the Knicks to potentially win a championship soon. Phil could have come to Chicago and this summer helped them sign a big star like Melo.

are you serious? NO. forman is a big reason why we have a great team now. Hes responsible for drafting taj gibson, jimmy butler, and getting rid of that non effective loul deng.

[Nikola_]

He is younger than Pat Riley.

[diamenz]

yeah his athletic abilities just aren't there anymore - he's finished coaching.

[KyrieTheFuture]

I don't think you know anything about life if your argument is centered around losing ambition as you get older/getting worse at everything when you're older. Someone is obviously 15. Do I really need to list people who got better with age or will you take the loss and move on?

[moe94]

yeah his athletic abilities just aren't there anymore - he's finished coaching.

:oldlol:

[nathanjizzle]

He is younger than Pat Riley.

pat rileys last championship was 06:wtf: and spoelstra is like 30 years old.

[smoovegittar]

He was one of the greatest coaches, but every man has to learn that we loose our talents and ambition when we get older. Basketball players suck when they get older, so do coaches, so does every man that was great at something. Phil Jackson isnt changing the Knicks.
You're a dope. Get a hobby.

[Myth]

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/69/6925016c03fe33bff4269402899d9f8b7169ffca2575f83adc 62821bba67c1f0.jpg

[outbreak]

I think he won't make as big a difference as knicks fans are making out

but at the same time how can a front office staff member be washed up? Did he go deaf or something? Can't he hear his scouts? Has his dialing speed decreased and he cant' use a phone anymore? Can't he read reports and memos?

[Budadiiii]

You're a dope. Get a hobby.
:roll:

Insane post

[It's A VC3!!!]

Phil doesn't even want to be the President of this franchise nor make them better. He just joined for the absurd contract the Knicks foolishly offered him. That's really what forced him out of retirement, not the fact that the job was lucrative and available. Because of that, I can't see Phil making much of an impact.

[talkingconch]

How can he be washed up? He got swept in '11 and that was it.

Are you stupid

[MightyWhitey]

pat rileys last championship was 06:wtf: and spoelstra is like 30 years old.
Are you retarded? Riley is the reason the Heat is a championship team with Lebron and Wade. How old are you?

[no pun intended]

yeah his athletic abilities just aren't there anymore - he's finished coaching.
my thoughts exactly

plus why does op make it sound like phil jackson is the knicks coach or something wtf

[jimmy77x]

Phil doesn't even want to be the President of this franchise nor make them better. He just joined for the absurd contract the Knicks foolishly offered him. That's really what forced him out of retirement, not the fact that the job was lucrative and available. Because of that, I can't see Phil making much of an impact.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ToTMlZ3Zux4/UZl1S1n3E-I/AAAAAAAADr8/V53LOsoQUEU/s1600/bs4.jpg

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Phil doesn't even want to be the President of this franchise nor make them better. He just joined for the absurd contract the Knicks foolishly offered him. That's really what forced him out of retirement, not the fact that the job was lucrative and available. Because of that, I can't see Phil making much of an impact.

And you know this HOW? Phil and you communicate on a regular basis?

[moe94]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ToTMlZ3Zux4/UZl1S1n3E-I/AAAAAAAADr8/V53LOsoQUEU/s1600/bs4.jpg
:roll:

[Budadiiii]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ToTMlZ3Zux4/UZl1S1n3E-I/AAAAAAAADr8/V53LOsoQUEU/s1600/bs4.jpg
:applause:

[It's A VC3!!!]

And you know this HOW? Phil and you communicate on a regular basis?

Do you think Dolan paid Phil $12m a year because he wanted to? No, that is what Phil demanded for his services. That just tells me that his primary goal was to leech as much money as he could for as long as he could from the Knicks because he knew they were in desperation mode. Phil Jackson- committed the biggest robbery on the Knicks franchise.:oldlol:

[smoovegittar]

Do you think Dolan paid Phil $12m a year because he wanted to? No, that is what Phil demanded for his services. That just tells me that his primary goal was to leech as much money as he could for as long as he could from the Knicks because he knew they were in desperation mode. Phil Jackson- committed the biggest robbery on the Knicks franchise.:oldlol:

You're shitting in your pants right now. Get ready for your first round exit, fanboy. :D

[smoovegittar]

http://s.quickmeme.com/img/69/6925016c03fe33bff4269402899d9f8b7169ffca2575f83adc 62821bba67c1f0.jpg
Orange county, huh? Sorry for your loss...

[MellowYellow]

If he can get Melo to stay he has already accomplished much more than they woulda without him, and it pretty much guarantees finals in 14 and ship in 15 and 16

[smoovegittar]

If he can get Melo to stay he has already accomplished much more than they woulda without him, and it pretty much guarantees finals in 14 and ship in 15 and 16

I listened to his formal introduction today... he addressed the media. After hearing his plans and the approval of the owner, I feel supremely confident that this team is gonna make a lot of noise in 2 years. Condolences to the teams that lost out on hiring him (there were a few). You can see the jealousy welling up in the haters in here... and I can't wait until it's Phil who's luring those superstar free agents in 2015. Oh yeah, it's gonna happen :applause:

[Myth]

Orange county, huh? Sorry for your loss...

lol, I'm not a Laker fan. I actually root against the Lakers more than any other team.

[Legends66NBA7]

Phil Jackson never had a losing season in the NBA as a head coach. Knicks have 10 losing seasons in the last 13 seasons, including this year.

Phil will definitely do a better job in this new position, but let's calm down about Finals and championship talk.

[Patrick Chewing]

Phil doesn't even want to be the President of this franchise nor make them better.


Do you know Phil on a personal level? If you don't, then I think you should shut the **** up.

[Solefade]

lol at anyone having a negative opinion on this hire...this anything but bad for the knicks...and even if he's not that great at this job, how would you even know or what evidence do you have to base it off of?

[niko]

Phil doesn't even want to be the President of this franchise nor make them better. He just joined for the absurd contract the Knicks foolishly offered him. That's really what forced him out of retirement, not the fact that the job was lucrative and available. Because of that, I can't see Phil making much of an impact.
This has been a difficult week for Nets fans. No one cares about their upcoming first round out. They traded three years of picks for Garnett, who apparently they play better without. And there "free agent bonanza" has them in NY with Phil Jackson (with Melo) as the Knicks ambassador, and Billy King (and Deron) as the Nets counterpart. Good luck with that.

But hey, you have your two weeks in the playoffs where all the attention will be yours, unless Phil walks down the street, in which case you'll need to wait till he's done (unfortunately Dude walks slow....)

I like how everyone acts like he has no Knick ties all of a sudden. Either you're all stupid, salty, or your sense of history is bad.

[no pun intended]

lol, I'm not a Laker fan. I actually root against the Lakers more than any other team.
Orange County, Florida confirmed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_Florida

[mr.big35]

he never was an executive level. he might be washed up as a coach

[Eric Cartman]

This will end like Larry Brown's stint with the Knicks.

[It's A VC3!!!]

This has been a difficult week for Nets fans. No one cares about their upcoming first round out. They traded three years of picks for Garnett, who apparently they play better without. And there "free agent bonanza" has them in NY with Phil Jackson (with Melo) as the Knicks ambassador, and Billy King (and Deron) as the Nets counterpart. Good luck with that.

But hey, you have your two weeks in the playoffs where all the attention will be yours, unless Phil walks down the street, in which case you'll need to wait till he's done (unfortunately Dude walks slow....)

I like how everyone acts like he has no Knick ties all of a sudden. Either you're all stupid, salty, or your sense of history is bad.

How has this been a difficult week for Nets fans?

[The-Legend-24]

inb4 Knicks 3peat.

[tgan3]

There is not such thing as washed up for coaches as it doesn't require any physical ability. The only thing he needs is to be mentally fit and sound.

[Myth]

Orange County, Florida confirmed

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_County,_Florida

:lol

[MMM]

coaches that have gone from the bench to the front office

i can think of Pat, Bird and Ainge

I think Phil can have similar success to those guys over time.

[ILLsmak]

I'm just happy to have Phil back in the game, and I bet any of these whiners would want Phil helping out their squad. Jussayin.

-Smak

[SpanishACB]

So OP is saying winning millions of dollars is not an accomplishment?

Trust me son Phil is accomplishing loads... the NYK on the other hand...

[niko]

How has this been a difficult week for Nets fans?

Clearly it is, you're so damn salty about the PJ hiring. A fan of a team who is run by Billy King can't cast aspertions on other team's front office hirings.

[DukeDelonte13]

lol at anyone having a negative opinion on this hire...this anything but bad for the knicks...and even if he's not that great at this job, how would you even know or what evidence do you have to base it off of?


So it's good even if he doesn't turn out to be a good "consultant"? :oldlol:


Like i've been saying he could be good, he could be bad. But there are real risks that he isn't going to work hard and/or give a crap, and that he's going to bring in his buddies rather than the right people for the job.

And :oldlol: at people saying that if Melo resigns it was all worth it.

I wish the Knicks the best, but i'm leery about giving a guy with nothing left to prove that kind of money and no real job description. I'm jaded though. My Browns did that.

[Yao Ming's Foot]

lol at anyone having a negative opinion on this hire...this anything but bad for the knicks...and even if he's not that great at this job, how would you even know or what evidence do you have to base it off of?

Didn't he want to trade young Kobe twice? How is that the sign of a good GM?

[Draz]

Do you know Phil on a personal level? If you don't, then I think you should shut the **** up.
Don't give in to it

[East_Stone_Ya]

stupid thread

[Jasper]

he organizes people

just like many , but paid handsomely , means he does it better than anyone...

That said Dolan has an advantage

Jax , knows the NBA , players needs and wants and desires.


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I'll give you an example , Bucks Kohl and Hammond want players that are religous , and have community values.
That being said , they have great people players , but little killer instinct like an Iverson had as a gangster.

Jax , knows how to locate players that are hard nosed and will do anything to win games.
NY will be a good place.

However I still think Melo doesn't have all or nothing attitude.
A scorer without a Dfence is only a points gate keeper.

[Draz]

At this point what the Knicks achieve its based or revolves around Melo. If he leaves when we get Phil that alone shows his fear and little hope in ownership and the organization

[Purch]

This whole ordeal reminded me that Pop was the Spurs Gm/vp for nearly 8 years lol. I wonder if he's planning to take over the whole thing after he retires

[Solefade]

So it's good even if he doesn't turn out to be a good "consultant"? :oldlol:


Like i've been saying he could be good, he could be bad. But there are real risks that he isn't going to work hard and/or give a crap, and that he's going to bring in his buddies rather than the right people for the job.

And :oldlol: at people saying that if Melo resigns it was all worth it.

I wish the Knicks the best, but i'm leery about giving a guy with nothing left to prove that kind of money and no real job description. I'm jaded though. My Browns did that.

Pretty sure Phil Jackson knows a championship team when he sees one. I don't know how hard he'll work but his "vision" can't be any worse than how the Knicks have been over the past few years.

[Solefade]

Didn't he want to trade young Kobe twice? How is that the sign of a good GM?


Yeah, when someone's as toxic as Kobe is in the locker room, he had a legitimate reason to want to trade him. He's been on record to why he wanted to trade him.