View Full Version : LeBron is shooting below 40% outside of the paint for this entire season.
Rocketswin2013
03-19-2014, 04:35 PM
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/837-LeBron-James/season/2013-2014-REG
Click the link and go to"2s/3s/paint", it will show you.
This is why he sucks against the spurs, they turn him into a jumpshooter, and he's terrible at it.
On another note, Kevin Durant is shooting a sad 46% from the field in the 4th quarter this season, that's the biggest drop off of any top 10 scorer.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1106-Kevin-Durant/season/2013-2014-REG
Click the link, and go to the "Q4" filter. It'll show you. So much for being "clutch".
James Harden has a 54% FG percentage in the 4th to compare.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1112-James-Harden/season/2013-2014-REG Like I said, "Q4".
fpliii
03-19-2014, 04:50 PM
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/837-LeBron-James/season/2013-2014-REG
Click the link and go to"2s/3s/paint", it will show you.
This is why he sucks against the spurs, they turn him into a jumpshooter, and he's terrible at it.
On another note, Kevin Durant is shooting a sad 46% from the field in the 4th quarter this season, that's the biggest drop off of any top 10 scorer.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1106-Kevin-Durant/season/2013-2014-REG
Click the link, and go to the "Q4" filter. It'll show you. So much for being "clutch".
James Harden has a 54% FG percentage in the 4th to compare.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1112-James-Harden/season/2013-2014-REG Like I said, "Q4".
What did he shoot last year outside the paint?
TheMarkMadsen
03-19-2014, 05:03 PM
really cool website, thanks :applause:
kentatm
03-19-2014, 05:13 PM
dunno why people are just now realizing the best way to slow LeBreezy is to make him a jump shooter.
How do y'all think the Mavs beat the Heat and made LeBron look mortal?
Ball denial, doubles, and daring him to shoot from outside while leaving his teammates more open so he would pass to them instead of driving.
LeBron, always one to try and make the correct bball play, grew passive w/his scoring as he knew he couldn't just shoot the Heat to victory and tried to pass to the open man instead of playing hero ball.
yeah ask the spurs how that worked out for them in game 7
kentatm
03-19-2014, 05:17 PM
yeah ask the spurs how that worked out for them in game 7
Spurs win in 6 if Pop doesn't brain fart by taking Duncan out.
He didn't follow the plan to completion.
Jailblazers7
03-19-2014, 05:19 PM
He shoots it at a decent clip from the left side of the court (where he seems to do more of his work offensively).
TheMarkMadsen
03-19-2014, 05:20 PM
yeah ask the spurs how that worked out for them in game 7
well it worked pretty well for 5 3/4 games, and if you can minimize a teams superstar for that long, you have a great shot at winning the series
Choke
03-19-2014, 05:21 PM
B-b-b-b-but he is the best player on the planet.
Solefade
03-19-2014, 05:21 PM
Spurs win in 6 if Pop doesn't brain fart by taking Duncan out.
He didn't follow the plan to completion.
Heat also would have probably won w/o Ray Allen's shot if Spo just left Mike Miller in and Wade on the bench in G6.
BlazerRed
03-19-2014, 05:37 PM
This shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone. Dude has never been a great shooter. Amazing around the ring though.
B-b-b-b-but he is the best player on the planet.
You are telling us he isn't?
BlazerRed
03-19-2014, 05:44 PM
You are telling us he isn't?
If he is then he'd be right.
hahaitme
03-19-2014, 05:46 PM
It's a gamble, if you leave him open 2 things can happen:
a) he gets hot and starts raining 3's
b) he doesn't, and bricks everything
Pop was smart for taking the gamble, because unless you have someone like Hibbert, he's going to get buckets in the paint.
20Four
03-19-2014, 05:48 PM
LeBRONZE is the best in the NBA..........................AT FLOPPING :roll: :roll:
Niqqa please....
Durant right now is the MVP....sorry you fake ass lebron fans
Smook A.
03-19-2014, 06:19 PM
Without strength and speed LeBron James = James White
coin24
03-19-2014, 06:35 PM
You are telling us he isn't?
Durant is MVP deal with it Pauk
Nikola_
03-19-2014, 06:38 PM
Cant statpad jumpers FG%:lol
zoom17
03-19-2014, 06:39 PM
Cant statpad jumpers FG%:lol
can you make sense:lol
Heat also would have probably won w/o Ray Allen's shot if Spo just left Mike Miller in and Wade on the bench in G6.
Same could be said of Manu (9 pts, 8 turnovers, -21).
From that website, Pop played the percentages - keep Lebron out of the paint, preferably on the right side of the court. It's a lack of confidence in his jump shot that made the series go to 7 games. No way one could sag off Durant that much - he'd torch them. But that's why Spurs always have trouble with good jump shooting teams like OKC and MAVS.
SpecialQue
03-19-2014, 07:02 PM
God, what a fvcking loser.
BlazerRed
03-19-2014, 07:03 PM
God, what a fvcking loser.
Repped
Andrei89
03-20-2014, 08:33 AM
Because of this info,
I don't even have him as top 10 in the league right now.
Horrible player, Miami should trade him for Embiid!
Rocketswin2013
03-20-2014, 08:35 AM
Because of this info,
I don't even have him as top 10 in the league right now.
Horrible player, Miami should trade him for Embiid!
Oh no, LeBron is still the best no doubt IMO.
AintNoSunshine
03-20-2014, 08:58 AM
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/837-LeBron-James/season/2013-2014-REG
Click the link and go to"2s/3s/paint", it will show you.
This is why he sucks against the spurs, they turn him into a jumpshooter, and he's terrible at it.
On another note, Kevin Durant is shooting a sad 46% from the field in the 4th quarter this season, that's the biggest drop off of any top 10 scorer.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1106-Kevin-Durant/season/2013-2014-REG
Click the link, and go to the "Q4" filter. It'll show you. So much for being "clutch".
James Harden has a 54% FG percentage in the 4th to compare.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1112-James-Harden/season/2013-2014-REG Like I said, "Q4".
So Kobe's entire career is sad in your definition?:lol
ImKobe
03-20-2014, 09:01 AM
So Kobe's entire career is sad in your definition?:lol
http://i849.photobucket.com/albums/ab59/RB24/9YOs1_zps8a376359.gif
edrick
03-20-2014, 09:18 AM
This has been known for 10 years.
Thats because its by majority only 3PT or inside the paint for Lebron, he will not settle for inbetween so much, its mostly either a drive/post-up or a 3 in your face, he figured why take the lowest percentage 2pt FG when you can take the highest percentage one... :P
Jailblazers7
03-20-2014, 09:33 AM
Damn, that site says Duncan is shooting 28% from mid-range. I find that kind of hard to believe.
http://vorped.com/bball/index.php/player/shotchart/1131-Tim-Duncan
Jailblazers7
03-20-2014, 09:35 AM
Thats because its by majority only 3PT or inside the paint for Lebron, he will not settle for inbetween so much, its mostly either a drive/post-up or a 3 in your face, he figured why take the lowest percentage 2pt FG when you can take the highest percentage one... :P
His midrange percentages from the left side of the court are very respectable too. He shoots 47% from the left wing which is where he gets a lot of his shots.
r15mohd
03-20-2014, 09:39 AM
Without strength and speed LeBron James = James White
same can be said for Shaq, amongst others...your point? :rolleyes:
Without strength and speed LeBron James = James White
:facepalm
How dare Lebron have strength and speed and decide to use those to his advantage while engaging in athletic competition. He should be ashamed of himself!
Exactly why the best defense against him is to back off him and make him shoot jumpers. Don't let his team get involved and you can beat the Heat.
Blue&Orange
03-20-2014, 11:14 AM
Spurs win in 6 if Pop doesn't brain fart by taking Duncan out.
He didn't follow the plan to completion.
After he saw Vogel make the same mistake :lol
Seriously what's the logic in preferring giving Lebron a Layup vs Bosh shooting a three.
Worse, made Manu run the offense, when he was atrocious handling the rock all series, while benching Parker was really cringe worthy.
fpliii
03-20-2014, 11:18 AM
Thats because its by majority only 3PT or inside the paint for Lebron, he will not settle for inbetween so much, its mostly either a drive/post-up or a 3 in your face, he figured why take the lowest percentage 2pt FG when you can take the highest percentage one... :P
Which is why SA was smart to defend him that way. In the playoffs, the lowest percentage shot is often the only one available.
You can always create for yourself in the post though, would've been nice if he went there more often.
Fire Colangelo
03-20-2014, 12:45 PM
Which is why SA was smart to defend him that way. In the playoffs, the lowest percentage shot is often the only one available.
You can always create for yourself in the post though, would've been nice if he went there more often.
Idk why he doesn't post up more often. He should dominate just about every SF in the post.
dannywpt
03-20-2014, 01:00 PM
No one ever accused Bran of being a good shooter, so why is this a surprise again?
riseagainst
03-20-2014, 01:29 PM
No one ever accused Bran of being a good shooter, so why is this a surprise again?
this. He has always been an average shooter. Even last year and this year, despite the FG%, which is deceiving.
pegasus
03-20-2014, 02:08 PM
This is nothing. He shot below 20% outside of the paint in the 2012 Finals. That's gotta be the most overrated series of all time.
doesn't matter. he makes jumpers when the pressure is at it's highest and all the lights are on him (game six at boston, game seven at home).
This is nothing. He shot below 20% outside of the paint in the 2012 Finals. That's gotta be the most overrated series of all time.
Still sore from years of getting bent over and taking it raw huh? Chi-town stand up :applause:
r15mohd
03-20-2014, 02:42 PM
Lebron just needs to stop effing around and be the steam roller he is, let Wade and Bosh play spot up roles as he attracts the defense. that is when Lebron shines, the more he has the ball (selfish ball), the better the Heat chances are at winning games.
screw %'s...contorl the game, his scroing and assists vision (finding the right play) will prove worthy
Micku
03-20-2014, 03:27 PM
Which is why SA was smart to defend him that way. In the playoffs, the lowest percentage shot is often the only one available.
You can always create for yourself in the post though, would've been nice if he went there more often.
Yeah. I do remember that whenever Lebron did post up, the Spurs were quick to triple team him and then get back to close out the shooters. But I don't think Spo post up Lebron that often.
riseagainst
03-20-2014, 03:44 PM
Lebron just needs to stop effing around and be the steam roller he is, let Wade and Bosh play spot up roles as he attracts the defense. that is when Lebron shines, the more he has the ball (selfish ball), the better the Heat chances are at winning games.
screw %'s...contorl the game, his scroing and assists vision (finding the right play) will prove worthy
this is exactly what Lebron does. Turning superstars, all stars, and HOF level players into role players.
JUDGE WITNESS
03-20-2014, 03:45 PM
Without strength and speed LeBron James = James White
without speed and handles james harden = james jones
JebronLames
03-20-2014, 04:22 PM
This is nothing. He shot below 20% outside of the paint in the 2012 Finals. That's gotta be the most overrated series of all time.
Lol accidentially praising lebron. Only lebron could dominate a series while shooting 20% outside the paint.
riseagainst
03-20-2014, 04:31 PM
Lol accidentially praising lebron. Only lebron could dominate a series while shooting 20% outside the paint.
1 dimensional scorer. Bad defense from the opposing team.
TheMarkMadsen
03-20-2014, 04:35 PM
Lol accidentially praising lebron. Only lebron could dominate a series while shooting 20% outside the paint.
doesn't hurt when your second option is averaging 23 ppg and your 5th option is averaging 12ppg on 85% TS
STATUTORY
03-20-2014, 04:39 PM
Which is why SA was smart to defend him that way. In the playoffs, the lowest percentage shot is often the only one available.
You can always create for yourself in the post though, would've been nice if he went there more often.
this is well said, that's the flaw with the three pointers and layups game plan that's taking over the NBA. the nba playoffs is all about who can make that tough contested jumpers, not which team is better at converting open layups and three pointers because those opportunities become rare in the playoffs. That's why I think teams like Houston will not do well in the playoffs.
Obviously high FG% and TS% is generally correlated with winning but in the playoffs, the mid range game and post game is the value on the margins that separates contenders with pretenders.
Black Mamba's B
03-20-2014, 04:55 PM
this is exactly what Lebron does. Turning superstars, all stars, and HOF level players into role players.
This. Bron has never been a great shooter but it seems he has gotten more consistent over the years
B4llin
03-20-2014, 07:32 PM
And the reason Lebron shoots suchs a high percentage in the paint is he is always fouling his defender and he never gets called for it. He uses his strength to foul his defender, just because he is strong doesn't mean it isn't a foul.
r15mohd
03-20-2014, 09:37 PM
And the reason Lebron shoots suchs a high percentage in the paint is he is always fouling his defender and he never gets called for it. He uses his strength to foul his defender, just because he is strong doesn't mean it isn't a foul.
Guess every basket Shaq made down low was a foul too then...how can you penalize someone for being athletically gifted? Isn't it a level of discrimination?
r15mohd
03-20-2014, 09:39 PM
this is exactly what Lebron does. Turning superstars, all stars, and HOF level players into role players.
Naive post...the Heat aren't winning anything if Bosh or Wade are put before Lebron. Lebron first plan is proven, 2 MVPs...2 FMVPs...2 titles
aboss4real24
03-20-2014, 11:27 PM
Melo shooting 48% outside the paint :banana:
2swift4u
03-21-2014, 04:34 AM
This shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone. Dude has never been a great shooter. Amazing around the ring though.
this. If a guy shoots only 70+ % from the free throw line then you can assume he's not a great shooter.
AlphaWolf24
03-21-2014, 12:15 PM
same can be said for Shaq, amongst others...your point? :rolleyes:
no...without strength and speed Shaq is working on the side of the freeway pouring concrete.
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