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TheReal Kendall
03-19-2014, 08:17 PM
What was his style of play like?

Where is he ranked on the all-time list as a player?

I've never seen him play or heard anyone talk about him as a player. Most great players turn out to be horrible coaches so I was just wondering how good Phil was.

Is he comparable to anybody in the league today?

NoGunzJustSkillz
03-19-2014, 08:23 PM
Keep in mind he's missing both big toes.

Akrazotile
03-19-2014, 08:33 PM
He made Bill Russell look like Bill Russell

JimmyMcAdocious
03-19-2014, 08:34 PM
Low basketball IQ chucker. One of those post players who refused to play his position. I bet no one at the time thought he would become a head coach, muchless a good one.

He's modern day Andray Blatche, except slow, white, and without the skill.

KDthunderup
03-19-2014, 08:37 PM
You seriously think anyone on this site is old enough and can actually remember Jackson as a player?

RR#9
03-19-2014, 08:38 PM
What was his style of play like?

Where is he ranked on the all-time list as a player?

I've never seen him play or heard anyone talk about him as a player. Most great players turn out to be horrible coaches so I was just wondering how good Phil was.

Is he comparable to anybody in the league today?
Top 30-25

LoneyROY7
03-19-2014, 08:40 PM
Sturdy and durable 4-man who could stretch the floor on offense and make his opponent work on the other end.

He had a relatively high ceiling, but his potential was stunted due to poor coaching and a team's inability to fully utilize Phil's complex and beyond-his-years approach to the game of basketball.

Magic731
03-19-2014, 08:47 PM
He might not be top 500 of all time.

TheReal Kendall
03-19-2014, 09:08 PM
You seriously think anyone on this site is old enough and can actually remember Jackson as a player?

There's a few guys that have tons of info on Wilt, Russel, and KAJ so I thought someone would know a little bit about him.

All Net
03-19-2014, 09:22 PM
Just a role player...6 and 5 type of guy.

iamgine
03-19-2014, 09:28 PM
A very foul prone, high energy bench player.

Draz
03-19-2014, 09:34 PM
He's a poor mans poor man.

LoneyROY7
03-19-2014, 09:36 PM
ROFL. Typical ISH underrating a player due to era incompetence.

Phil easily puts up 17 and 11 in today's soft league.

SHAQisGOAT
03-19-2014, 09:38 PM
From what I've seen, he was not bad offensively (decent shooter too) but limited, his game was (more based on) great defensive hustle. Seemed like a solid athlete and had/has really long arms, smart player too, nice off the bench, always nice to have a man like that on your rotation, nothing special though or even remotely close to it.

Milbuck
03-19-2014, 09:58 PM
He was Lebron without the court vision, feel for the game, or any of the physical gifts.

LAClipsFan33
03-19-2014, 10:14 PM
My pops actually saw him play. He said Phil was a garbage man goon type player. His best move was to throw those sharp ass elbows and try to injure people.

He described him as a dirty player and a "Hack"

JohnFreeman
03-19-2014, 10:14 PM
In comparison to the talent on his team? He was not that great

Akrazotile
03-19-2014, 10:39 PM
Just a role player...6 and 5 type of guy.


6 fouls and 5 turnovers

Bandito
03-19-2014, 11:31 PM
He was Lebron without the court vision, feel for the game, or any of the physical gifts.
:roll:

Scoooter
03-19-2014, 11:32 PM
He had really, really long arms. It was hard to inbound the ball over him.

IncarceratedBob
03-19-2014, 11:33 PM
He had elite post moves

JUDGE WITNESS
03-19-2014, 11:33 PM
He was Lebron without the court vision, feel for the game, or any of the physical gifts.
:biggums:

in other words he was not like lebron at all

moe94
03-19-2014, 11:40 PM
:biggums:

in other words he was not like lebron at all
That's why it's hilarious.

La Frescobaldi
03-19-2014, 11:43 PM
My pops actually saw him play. He said Phil was a garbage man goon type player. His best move was to throw those sharp ass elbows and try to injure people.

He described him as a dirty player and a "Hack"

I saw him play, his whole career. The Knicks were my favorite team and to this day Frazier is my all-time favorite player. P Jax & Clyde were rooks together. This was when Chamberlain was towering above the whole world over on those Sixers squads. There's lotta truth to what yer dad says.

P Jax wasn't a garbage man level, though, he was a valid NBA level talent. You don't get to be a some-time starter on the Knicks even in the later '70s when they had faded, and definitely don't get to be the 6th man on their glory teams... with garbage man level ability.

He was a spark plug off the bench and could play some real nice defense. Great? Not even close. But on his day he could bring it against even great teams for short stretches. That point All Net had about 6 & 5 is pretty true.... but it often happened in like 3 minutes. Just .... explosion.
He messed up his back and had surgery in '69-'70 and missed the season, some say he never really regained what he had. I don't know on that.

A thing about Phil is this.... he was very very very sharp. He studied the game very carefully. He had a way on defense of standing just exactly where the ball was going - right exactly in the spot that would perfectly destroy the other team's set. Almost like he was setting a screen, in a way, to disrupt a player so he couldn't execute his move.

But he was definitely an enforcer type, from first to last, and YEAH MOST DEFINITELY on the elbows. There was a lot of blood when the Knicks played and P Jax did his share of spilling it.

JUDGE WITNESS
03-19-2014, 11:45 PM
That's why it's hilarious.
i dont need you to explain jokes to me niqqa

FVCK I LOOK LIKE :rant

moe94
03-19-2014, 11:50 PM
i dont need you to explain jokes to me niqqa

FVCK I LOOK LIKE :rant
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view7/4463613/cot-damn-o.gif

red1
03-20-2014, 12:08 AM
He was Lebron without the court vision, feel for the game, or any of the physical gifts.
but he still got dat f*cked up hairline doe?

3243
03-20-2014, 01:22 AM
But he was definitely an enforcer type, from first to last, and YEAH MOST DEFINITELY on the elbows. There was a lot of blood when the Knicks played and P Jax did his share of spilling it.


Back then, there was a lot of blood when any NBA or ABA teams played.

I understand Jackson, along with Willis Reed, was a central figure in a 1968 multi-player melee with the Atlanta Hawks that resulted in four ejections.

Solidape
03-20-2014, 01:58 AM
He was a rich mans Kurt Rambis and a poor mans Bill Laimbeer

LAClipsFan33
03-20-2014, 02:02 AM
I saw him play, his whole career. The Knicks were my favorite team and to this day Frazier is my all-time favorite player. P Jax & Clyde were rooks together. This was when Chamberlain was towering above the whole world over on those Sixers squads. There's lotta truth to what yer dad says.

P Jax wasn't a garbage man level, though, he was a valid NBA level talent. You don't get to be a some-time starter on the Knicks even in the later '70s when they had faded, and definitely don't get to be the 6th man on their glory teams... with garbage man level ability.

He was a spark plug off the bench and could play some real nice defense. Great? Not even close. But on his day he could bring it against even great teams for short stretches. That point All Net had about 6 & 5 is pretty true.... but it often happened in like 3 minutes. Just .... explosion.
He messed up his back and had surgery in '69-'70 and missed the season, some say he never really regained what he had. I don't know on that.

A thing about Phil is this.... he was very very very sharp. He studied the game very carefully. He had a way on defense of standing just exactly where the ball was going - right exactly in the spot that would perfectly destroy the other team's set. Almost like he was setting a screen, in a way, to disrupt a player so he couldn't execute his move.

But he was definitely an enforcer type, from first to last, and YEAH MOST DEFINITELY on the elbows. There was a lot of blood when the Knicks played and P Jax did his share of spilling it.


:applause:

jstern
03-20-2014, 06:44 AM
Back then he was described as a poor mans George Mikan, and would not make the league in 1947. (Too young)

brantonli
03-20-2014, 07:13 AM
back then, he erupted for 30 points and in 1973, he was known as Philsanity