"College is better than the NBA because they're not selfish and play defense"

[fpliii]

How many times have you guys heard this today? I'm at 4 already. :rockon:

[Levity]

I hear that a lot too. but usually from casual nba fans.

[STATUTORY]

hate that sentiment, college players are forced to play more team centered ball and hustle on defense cause most of them just aren't that good.

it's just a easy crutch for people to hate on the NBA "culture"

i rather watch the most talented players in the world than the most motivated players

but i can see how reasonably ppl can disagree

[sammichoffate]

How many times have you guys heard this today? I'm at 4 already. :rockon:http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/568/847/e6f.jpg

[9erempiree]

I think if you want to watch basketball in its truest form then college basketball is to watch.

The college athletics is the pinnacle of athletics before professional leagues were introduced therefore you will get its purest form.

I like college basketball a lot but sadly I don't watch it much anymore since they had the 1 year rule in the NBA.

It goes far beyond just defense, they actually hustle and play in a cohesive way. There are just too much ISO in the NBA where all 5 players play a critical role for their school. Heck, they have 10 man rotations in college so there are 10 guys that are very important to the school.

[atljonesbro]

Watching a team pass around the perimeter for 30 seconds then jack up a 3 isn't fun to watch. College basketball is boring as hell.

[9erempiree]

Watching a team pass around the perimeter for 30 seconds then jack up a 3 isn't fun to watch. College basketball is boring as hell.

The fast breaks make up for it which is much more exciting than a NBA fast break.

[KungFuJoe]

College basketball?

I'd rather watch paint dry.

[wakencdukest]

Watching a team pass around the perimeter for 30 seconds then jack up a 3 isn't fun to watch. College basketball is boring as hell.



As boring as watching a pro team run iso's and pick n rolls all game long?

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Love how people saying stuff like this makes you guys dislike college basketball more.

No different than some troll who won't shut the **** up about LeBron or Kobe (or Kyrie, Unibrow, Giannis, Love) subliminally making you like those guys less. How about just enjoy basketball?

[wakencdukest]

Coming from a Lakers fan since 2010? Wow.



I've been a Laker fan since the late 70's. I grew up watching the most unselfish team of all time. I'm not a big fan of iso heavy wing players, never have been. Was never a Jordan fan, or a fan of any of his ball pounding disciples like Kobe, AI, LeBron, Harden, etc. I appreciate them as great players, but have never really liked the style.

[TheReal Kendall]

I like the college game more. It's more teamwork instead of just iso plays and chucking up 3s

[Rubio2Gasol]

Yup, College is like Oldschool Ball. If only we could get the entitled fools in the NBA to play ball like this.

[Rose'sACL]

I like the college game more. It's more teamwork instead of just iso plays and chucking up 3s
keep believing that. this just shows that you only watch really bad teams and rockets. Even rockets don't do it that foolishly.
The quality difference between NBA and college ball is so huge that even if what you are saying was true, i would still watch the NBA.
Creating open 3s for your role players is a skill. shooting 3s well is a skill too.

[LoneyROY7]

I like the college game more. It's more teamwork instead of just iso plays and chucking up 3s

:roll:

When's the last time you watched a college basketball game that didn't consist of a top 5 or 10 team?

You know what nearly every possession looks like? 4 players on offense passing around the perimeter for about 30 seconds until one of them decides to shoot a three-pointer.

Great teamwork. :bowdown:

[STATUTORY]

:roll:

When's the last time you watched a college basketball game that didn't consist of a top 5 or 10 team?

You know what nearly every possession looks like? 4 players on offense passing around the perimeter for about 30 seconds until one of them decides to shoot a three-pointer.

Great teamwork. :bowdown:


:applause: sounds like the Lebran offense in the 4th quarter

[DuMa]

College is terrible. 35 second shot clock completely ruins the ending of close games

[Euroleague]

Anyone that claims there is good defense being played in an NBA game is either completely psychotic, or they are a pathological liar, or they have never actually seen an NBA game.

Take your pick.

[LoneyROY7]

Anyone that claims there is good defense being played in an NBA game is either completely psychotic, or they are a pathological liar, or they have never actually seen an NBA game.

Take your pick.

Shut the fvck up, Jeff.

[Euroleague]

keep believing that. this just shows that you only watch really bad teams and rockets. Even rockets don't do it that foolishly.
The quality difference between NBA and college ball is so huge that even if what you are saying was true, i would still watch the NBA.
Creating open 3s for your role players is a skill. shooting 3s well is a skill too.

No one plays any defense in the NBA you idiot.

[freshperry]

I can see why people like college basketball because lets face it, they're kids and they make mistakes so theres more room for comebacks and epic things to happen ( Think game 6 NBA finals) The quality of play is obviously better in the NBA but college basketball allows more room for heartbreak and upsets. Plus theres more teams in college. On that note, i still find the NBA more interesting because I want to see the best players and best teams play so I can witness greatness.

[Euroleague]

:roll:

When's the last time you watched a college basketball game that didn't consist of a top 5 or 10 team?

You know what nearly every possession looks like? 4 players on offense passing around the perimeter for about 30 seconds until one of them decides to shoot a three-pointer.

Great teamwork. :bowdown:

That's not the point. The point people are making is that in the NBA they don't play any defense. Low IQ, actually EXTREMELY low IQ people (NBA only fans) cannot differentiate the two.

They cannot differentiate from seeing a game where no one plays any defense from where players are hustling and lack the ability to create open shots.

Then you have clowns claiming "creating open shots is a skill"...........the most ridiculous thing ever........especially when these same clowns will come in and say that a league like Euroleague has no skill level comparable to NBA and that no one in Euroleague plays defense compared to NBA........

Because actually in Euroleague they ARE CREATING open shots. While in the NBA they just simply are not freaking playing any defense.

That's the point and it's unbelievable that so-called basketball fans can't even grasp that.

Your post proves you are one of them. Because you can't grasp that it takes several passes and a longer time in NCAA to move the ball around on the perimeter to get open shots as compared to the NBA............if you had even basic basketball knowledge this would be obvious to you.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

its not "better" it is just a vastly different style of basketball played compared to the nba. though the offense in a lot of college games is atrocious, it's hard as fvck to score when you have these kids hounding you and rotating so crisp on defense

[KobeClutchAsFK]

I think if you want to watch basketball in its truest form then college basketball is to watch.

The college athletics is the pinnacle of athletics before professional leagues were introduced therefore you will get its purest form.

I like college basketball a lot but sadly I don't watch it much anymore since they had the 1 year rule in the NBA.

It goes far beyond just defense, they actually hustle and play in a cohesive way. There are just too much ISO in the NBA where all 5 players play a critical role for their school. Heck, they have 10 man rotations in college so there are 10 guys that are very important to the school.


There are just too much ISO in the NBA

How can you be a kobe fan and an ISO hater? (for the record, Kobe is my fav player).

[bdreason]

People make ridiculous statements about how College players play better defense or play with more emotion/intensity... but the truth is that the only reason College hoops seem more intense is because of the atmosphere.

The only thing that College hoops have on the NBA is drunk College students. It creates an amazing atmosphere, but the product on the court is still inferior to the NBA in every way.

[inclinerator]

cant stand college basketball, maybe it was better a few years back, but not atm

[Railgun]

College ball is very bad basketball.

[Euroleague]

People make ridiculous statements about how College players play better defense or play with more emotion/intensity... but the truth is that the only reason College hoops seem more intense is because of the atmosphere.

The only thing that College hoops have on the NBA is drunk College students. It creates an amazing atmosphere, but the product on the court is still inferior to the NBA in every way.

People just confirmed here in this thread by the comments. "All they do is make a bunch of passes on the perimeter then shoot a 3"..........

If you were not retarded, you would grasp that is because the defense is better.

The same morons are saying, "in the NBA they just make a pass and dunk it".......

yeah, and we are supposed to believe defense in the NBA is better.......

GTFO

The NBA does not even have ball movement and they don't even swing the ball on the perimeter. Because newsflash genius, there is no freaking defense in the NBA.

You can't even guard the damn lane or the rim by the definition of the rules and the refs don't even allow contact basically at all.

The NBA is pretty much the worst league there is anywhere defensively. I have livebasketballtv account and they are playing freaking better defense by miles in leagues like FIBA Americas.

[NumberSix]

People who love college basketball usually just enjoy that there are more white players than in the pros.

[bdreason]

It's harder for NCAA players to get high % shots because the players are inferior, and there is no Def. 3-Sec. rule. It has nothing to do with the individual ability of players to defend. The NBA has the best defensive players in the World, and by a wide margin. That's why we see U.S.A. Teams comprised completely of NBA players dominate defensively on the International stage.

[Levity]

Euroleague, give it a fvcking rest. You're losing your mind, man.

[mr.big35]

college basketball sucks its not about defense its just terrible offense. how does some teams go for more than 6 minutes of scoring droughts.

[oarabbus]

NBA >>>>>>>>>> College

You can prefer the college game, but it's inferior. Period.

[Euroleague]

It's harder for NCAA players to get high % shots because the players are inferior, and there is no Def. 3-Sec. rule. It has nothing to do with the individual ability of players to defend. The NBA has the best defensive players in the World, and by a wide margin. That's why we see U.S.A. Teams comprised completely of NBA players dominate defensively on the International stage.

Like I said, NBA only fans are just LOW IQ.

And Team USA is pretty much a JOKE on defense in every single tournament.

[ILLsmak]

There is some truth in just about everything said on either side of the debate. Still, I don't understand why people say NBA RULZ LOL COLLEGE.

It's not really that different and yea I say that with a straight face. The skill level, I mean. At the top, sure, but I think role players in college can make a much larger contribution.

It's an interesting point to bring up jealousy, too. I think a lot of people subconsciously feel the NBA players don't deserve to be making millions, that they are just dumb dudes playing a child's game. Because of that, they can more easily appreciate college because they are, for the most part, living a similar or lesser life than them.

That shit is funny, too... all they do is pass the ball around for 30 seconds and shoot a 3 haha. It's hilarious because people believe it and the fact that it's really not true. I could see passing around for 15 seconds and shooting a 3, but whenever the shot clock gets under a certain point, even in college, it becomes 'create your own shot' NBA-like bball. That is unless you're watching schools that just have ass teams.

It's amazing to think that any level of defense could stop a team from shooting for 30 seconds. More like they are obsessed with finding a better shot. For me, I think that a team should let it fly often. As an Illinois fan, I liked Bruce Weber when he had the players who weren't scared to defy his system... but when he got players who were afraid to take a bad shot, then it became similar to that passing BS.

College is better than NBA for the same reason amateur porn is better. Bro.

-Smak

[LoneyROY7]

Like I said, NBA only fans are just LOW IQ.

And Team USA is pretty much a JOKE on defense in every single tournament.

And yet somehow, they dominate every other squad. STFU, Jeff.

[Euroleague]

I want to clarify that I didn't say college was better than NBA, because it seems that some people are evidently thinking that.......

I am just saying that NO ONE PLAYS ANY DEFENSE IN THE NBA.

So of course for people to say they play better defense in NCAA is true.

I am not saying NCAA is better. But the fact is that there is NO DEFENSE IN NBA and anyone even daring to make that claim is a freaking moron.

[Euroleague]

And yet somehow, they dominate every other squad. STFU, Jeff.

No they don't. You are just straight out lying. They play horrific defense and they barely beat teams like Spain (numerous times), Lithuania, Brazil just in recent years.

[Railgun]

no one take the bait

[Replay32]

The worst part about college basketball IMO is the officiating. Man it's terrible. It's worse than the NBA. I also hate that you can call a timeout on defense after a made basket. And they should reduce the shot clock to speed the game up. The quality of ball is not as good as the NBA because they are not pros. I enjoy college ball for the most part, but it's not better than the NBA.

[bingoa]

People who love college basketball usually just enjoy that there are more white players than in the pros.
this is a big reason and also the NBA's marketing strategy which all the about the 'superstars', they couldn't give 2 ****s about places like dakota,wichita and many other states which have rabid fanbases following their college Bball teams.

[Black Mamba's B]

College ball is great, esp March Madness. Only thing that tops that for me is nba playoff basketball

[fpliii]

Love how people saying stuff like this makes you guys dislike college basketball more.

No different than some troll who won't shut the **** up about LeBron or Kobe (or Kyrie, Unibrow, Giannis, Love) subliminally making you like those guys less. How about just enjoy basketball?
Don't get me wrong, I love watching college hoops (we're all basketball junkies here). Just funny that these two common criticisms always rear their heads this time of year.

[flipogb]

what they are really saying is " theres more white guys"

as for me, I don't care about team sports that play less regular season games than the NBA

[Killbot]

They seem to play better defense because the opposing team's offense blows and shot clock is 35 seconds.

[Eric Cartman]

They seem to play better defense because the opposing team's offense blows and shot clock is 35 seconds.

I love basketball but this just makes college basketball unwatchable. So much pointless passing 20 seconds around the 3 point line before they attack or shoot. Annoying as ****.

[Killbot]

I love basketball but this just makes college basketball unwatchable. So much pointless passing 20 seconds around the 3 point line before they attack or shoot. Annoying as ****.

I agree. Plus the shot clock fcks up the players' mindset when they transition from college to pro.

[9erempiree]

I don't mind the shot clock. That means they can run multiple plays if one doesn't work. Rather than get on the ISO.

[The-Legend-24]

People actually care about college ball? :oldlol:

[(e)]

People who love college basketball usually just enjoy that there are more white players than in the pros.
El oh el. Best post you've ever had.



Anyone comparing the NBA to college basketball is an idiot. If college basketball implemented NBA rules, you'd have a completely different game, and vice versa.

I'll take one college team just to prove my point. Syracuse. Every year Boeheim has his team in his 2-3 zone. How many people actually think a team could do that in the NBA with defensive 3 seconds?

Let's go ahead and change the shot clock to 24 seconds and implement defensive 3 seconds to college basketball. You'll see pick and roll basketball all day long.

NBA 3 point line is 23'9 (22' in corners) compared to colleges 19'9
The lane in the NBA is 4' wider than college

Now everyone making comments saying something like, "they don't play defense in the NBA, that's why I like college ball." Take a second and think about it.

In the NBA, while the court size is the same...the players are spaced out more due to the 3 point line being 4 feet further back, the paint being 4 feet wider, and there being defensive 3 seconds. Plain and simple, it's harder to guard the basket in the NBA than it is in college...you can't just put your 7 footer in front of the basket. Anyone in college with a 7 footer is putting him right in front of the rim.

Adam Morrison dominated at the college ranks, where they play defense. In his final year he put up 28 points on 50% from the field and shot over 40% from 3. The hell did he ever do in the NBA, where they don't play defense? There are countless stories just like him.

[ILLsmak]

El oh el. Best post you've ever had.



Anyone comparing the NBA to college basketball is an idiot. If college basketball implemented NBA rules, you'd have a completely different game, and vice versa.

I'll take one college team just to prove my point. Syracuse. Every year Boeheim has his team in his 2-3 zone. How many people actually think a team could do that in the NBA with defensive 3 seconds?

Let's go ahead and change the shot clock to 24 seconds and implement defensive 3 seconds to college basketball. You'll see pick and roll basketball all day long.

NBA 3 point line is 23'9 (22' in corners) compared to colleges 19'9
The lane in the NBA is 4' wider than college

Now everyone making comments saying something like, "they don't play defense in the NBA, that's why I like college ball." Take a second and think about it.

In the NBA, while the court size is the same...the players are spaced out more due to the 3 point line being 4 feet further back, the paint being 4 feet wider, and there being defensive 3 seconds. Plain and simple, it's harder to guard the basket in the NBA than it is in college...you can't just put your 7 footer in front of the basket. Anyone in college with a 7 footer is putting him right in front of the rim.

Adam Morrison dominated at the college ranks, where they play defense. In his final year he put up 28 points on 50% from the field and shot over 40% from 3. The hell did he ever do in the NBA, where they don't play defense? There are countless stories just like him.

You may as well have posted "random facts" or "the differences between college and NBA basketball", but it seems to me like you feel somewhere in that post is definitive proof that NBA basketball is better than college ball.

I do agree with one thing, though, college ball and NBA ball are different.

-Smak

[justin12140]

Its just a different game that emphasizes different strengths. You'll see players that do better in college than the pros like JJ Reddick or Jimmer Freddette because shooting is a much more valuable skill than getting to the basket as a wing in college.

Then you'll have players that struggled in college but are better in the pros due to the spacing and open lanes like Drummond or Deandre Jordan

[3peated]

college basketball is ok, but i'd never watch it over the nba. even if it was the bucks and 76ers

[mr.big35]

college offense is boring teams cant even score sometimes

[Jef]

i have tried for years to get into college ball and follow it for a season, and just havent been able to do it. this summer i am starting graduate school at a college with a decent team, so maybe that will do it. i dont know - hopefully. i like watching college basketball, but am not invested in it as much as i am with the nba/okc.

that said, you mostly hear this "the nba sucks/college is better" statement because:

a) even self-appointed "fans" still usually only watch Championship Week and the tournament. it is somehow enough to convince them that the Dayton/Ole Miss matchup at noon on a Saturday in January somehow features the same do-or-die intensity. they really believe this somehow. its like people who think Kobe is still the best player in the league at this very second - these people actually believe that the entire college season is like the insansity that yesterday's NCAA tournament games provided.

imagine if casual fans only saw Games 6 and 7 last year of the finals after watching every single cams of the college season - the roles would be reversed

b) you actually have to legitimately follow the NBA to talk about it or pretend to be even a casual fan. shit, people at work just sit around and talk about how they hate Duke. they still bring up Laettner and the Fab Five to try and act like experts on the game. college basketball kind of lets you do that more.

fake fans such as this dont understand the commitment it takes to follow a team through the war of attrition that is the nba season. they dont know what it is like to sprint home and buy beer to stay up late watching game 54 of an 82 game season.

i dont want to say "**** those people," but...

**** those people. the nba is awesome, and any reasonable basketball fan can appreciate both, even if they have a preference.