curry vs westbrook

[Haks]

Who would you take?
I take curry. He has shown he can lead a team adequately and demands probably the third most attention from a defense in the NBA after Durant/lebron and still puts up 23/8 on 46% shooting

[russwest0]

Russell Westbrook is better at basically everything but shooting.

Are you SRS right now?

[Random_Guy]

Individually Westbrook is better, but curry is easier to build around and would be a easier player to build a championship team with

[KDthunderup]

If Currys jumper isnt falling he doesn't bring much else to the game, whilst you can at the very least expect WB to bring hustle and energy

[alexd]

Russell Westbrook is better at basically everything but shooting.

Are you SRS right now?
/thread

[Haks]

Curry is a better scorer passer playmaker shooter efficient less eratic than Westbrook whilst Westbrook is a much better defender but other than defence and intangibles he isn't better than curry

[SHABBA]

Russell Westbrook is better at basically everything but shooting.

Are you SRS right now?
Correct.

[AintNoSunshine]

they're vastly different so it depends on their supporting cast.

Everything else the same, Westbrook is the better player of course.

[Jlamb47]

Curry is a better scorer passer playmaker shooter efficient less eratic than Westbrook whilst Westbrook is a much better defender but other than defence and intangibles he isn't better than curry

not a better scorer, and not a better playmaker
Russell plays like 30 minutes a game look at his numbers
hes way more energetic
better defense
better rebounder probably the best at the PG position
he has the killer mentallity to
Russell is the best PG in the NBA right now

[Jlamb47]

id take Westbrook btw

[Warfan]

Scoring? Passing and Playmaking? How is not atleast arguably better?

Stephs faces more defensive attention and doesn't have the best player in the league to open up his game for him, and is still much more efficient. He even finishes at the rime at a higher rate than russ, albeit he takes less shots at the rim and is a much better mid range shooter and well a better shooter in general. Also stephs wouldn't take away shots from the best player in the league and he doesn't forces up terrible shots like russ because he cant control his 'alpha' and 'killer':facepalm instincts. Steph is one of the if not the most clutch player in the league. And came off of some very good postseason play last year.

Lol at the people acting like it isn't close

[RoseCity07]

Westbrook without giving it a second thought.

[dabigbaws]

westbrook. he's on a minute restriction and is coming just shy of triple doubles basically every game

[Jailblazers7]

Pretty tough but I think I'd take Westbrook. They bring similar value to the team as far as production but the leadership and energy that Russell adds is so underrated. That dude goes all out the whole game and gets his teammates to up their effort as well. A great "lead by example" guy.

[imdaman99]

I like Curry but Goatbrook is a different beast. Curry can get his own crowd rowdy too even when he's off, by knocking down a 3 but that's about all he can do to ignite his team. Westbrook can ignite the crowd/team in a million ways.

[Jlamb47]

Scoring? Passing and Playmaking? How is not atleast arguably better?

Stephs faces more defensive attention and doesn't have the best player in the league to open up his game for him, and is still much more efficient. He even finishes at the rime at a higher rate than russ, albeit he takes less shots at the rim and is a much better mid range shooter and well a better shooter in general. Also stephs wouldn't take away shots from the best player in the league and he doesn't forces up terrible shots like russ because he cant control his 'alpha' and 'killer':facepalm instincts. Steph is one of the if not the most clutch player in the league. And came off of some very good postseason play last year.

Lol at the people acting like it isn't close

If westbrook was on the WArriors his numbers would probably be

26 6 8
Steph couldnt even breath on westbrook when trying to gaurd him

[Inferno]

Curry's definitely a better scorer

:biggums: at some posters saying WB is a better one

[Jlamb47]

Curry 23.3ppg 8.5apg 4.3rpg 464% 415%

Westbrook 24.8ppg 8.3apg 6.7rpg 433% 349%

per 36 minutes this is the stats they are putting up. Now that is Westbrook being option #2 while coming off injury putting up BEAST stats.
If westbrook was on the Warriors he would be snapping harder. Hes putting up deadly numbers with the best player in the NBA. Oh Westbrook actually gaurds the best PG's in the league too while Curry let Klay Thompson do the dirty work on D

[ABfor3]

Westbrook would be averaging 26-28 points on the Warriors, it's a lot of shots being taken away from him while playing with the best scorer in the league. He's also a much better defender with his size and athleticism.

[Rocketswin2013]

Scoring? Passing and Playmaking? How is not atleast arguably better?

Stephs faces more defensive attention and doesn't have the best player in the league to open up his game for him, and is still much more efficient. He even finishes at the rime at a higher rate than russ, albeit he takes less shots at the rim and is a much better mid range shooter and well a better shooter in general. Also stephs wouldn't take away shots from the best player in the league and he doesn't forces up terrible shots like russ because he cant control his 'alpha' and 'killer':facepalm instincts. Steph is one of the if not the most clutch player in the league. And came off of some very good postseason play last year.

Lol at the people acting like it isn't close
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[Rocketswin2013]

Westbrook would be averaging 26-28 points on the Warriors, it's a lot of shots being taken away from him while playing with the best scorer in the league. He's also a much better defender with his size and athleticism.
LOL AT WHAT EFFICIENCY? 35-40 % from the field? How many TO'S?

:lol

[ABfor3]

LOL AT WHAT EFFICIENCY? 35-40 % from the field? How many TO'S?

:lol
I'm sure if he was the main option on the team he would find a way to improve his shot selection

[Rose'sACL]

Westbrook would be averaging 26-28 points on the Warriors, it's a lot of shots being taken away from him while playing with the best scorer in the league. He's also a much better defender with his size and athleticism.
his FG% is already pretty average for a top player. it would only go down if he was the best offensive player on a team.
Curry :23.5PPG on 60.2TS%
Westbrook(last season): 23.2PPG on 53.2TS%

Curry is better offensively. unlike most great 3 point shooters, he can actually drive to the rim although not as well as westbrook.
One thing i don't like about westbrook is that when he decides to chuck then he would not pass to the open man no matter what happens. Curry rarely if ever does that when he has way more range than westbrook.

I'm sure if he was the main option on the team he would find a way to improve his shot selection
lol

[IncarceratedBob]

Westbrook would probably shoot better if he had Currys stacked cast

Westbrook only has 1 teammate who is above average on offense

Curry has 5

Westbrook is a championship PG, Curry isnt

[scm5]

I would choose Curry.

Since Westbrook fanatics love going off of Per 36 stats:

Curry: 23.3 ppg / 8.5 apg
17.4 FGA
4.5 FTA
3.8 TO

Westbrook: 24.8 ppg / 8.3 apg
19.7 FGA
7.2 FTA
4.6 TO

Westbrook takes 2.3 FGA more, 2.7 FTA more, and turns the ball over .8 times more per game to score 1.5 points more and get .2 less assists than Curry.

That's at least 4 full possessions more that he takes to come up with roughly the equivalent of 1 more point.

Westbrook fanatics propping up his defense just because of how physical he is is ridiculous:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryst01&p2=westbru01

Curry goes offfffff on Westbrook while holding Westbrook to just below his career averages in FG% and 3FG%. 4.6 TO/gm?!?!?!?! Their rebounding averages are about the same too. The only thing Westbrook does better in any significant way is get steals.

[scm5]

Westbrook would probably shoot better if he had Currys stacked cast

Westbrook only has 1 teammate who is above average on offense

Curry has 5

Westbrook is a championship PG, Curry isnt

These are the Top 4 players offensively after Curry/Westbrook respectively:

Klay Thompson: 18.2 ppg on 44% FG.
David Lee: 18.5 ppg on 52.5% FG
Andre Iguodala: 9.3 ppg on 46.9% FG
Harrison Barnes: 9.5 ppg on 39.5% FG

Kevin Durant: 31.9 ppg on 51% FG
Serge Ibaka: 15.3 ppg on 54% FG
Reggie Jackson: 13.1 ppg on 43.5% FG
Jeremy Lamb: 8.9ppg on 43% FG

Please, tell me more about Curry's 5 players above average on offense and Westbrook's 1.

Sauces:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/OKC/2014.html
http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2014.html

[scm5]

Curry 23.3ppg 8.5apg 4.3rpg 464% 415%

Westbrook 24.8ppg 8.3apg 6.7rpg 433% 349%

per 36 minutes this is the stats they are putting up. Now that is Westbrook being option #2 while coming off injury putting up BEAST stats.
If westbrook was on the Warriors he would be snapping harder. Hes putting up deadly numbers with the best player in the NBA. Oh Westbrook actually gaurds the best PG's in the league too while Curry let Klay Thompson do the dirty work on D

Hi,

Westbrook might guard Steph, but it doesn't mean he does a good job.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryst01&p2=westbru01

Well above career averages.

That is all.

[Haks]

shooting 43% with the best player in the league yet when he supposedly leads a team he will average more points lololol

[All Net]

Westbrook

Does more IMO...

[Rocketswin2013]

Curry 23.3ppg 8.5apg 4.3rpg 464% 415%

Westbrook 24.8ppg 8.3apg 6.7rpg 433% 349%

per 36 minutes this is the stats they are putting up. Now that is Westbrook being option #2 while coming off injury putting up BEAST stats.
If westbrook was on the Warriors he would be snapping harder. Hes putting up deadly numbers with the best player in the NBA. Oh Westbrook actually gaurds the best PG's in the league too while Curry let Klay Thompson do the dirty work on D
You do know playing with the best player in the NBA only inflates stats and doesn't hurt them right? If he wasn't playing with said "BPITNBA" and was in Curry's situation with nobody to play off of and chuck at times, his efficiency would ****ing plummet. And if Curry got all those 1 on 1 Match ups and open looks, lord knows how deadly he would be......

EVEN with this Curry is still a better scorer, playmaker and more efficient.

[The_Yearning]

Westbrook can't carry a team singlehandedly. The reason he can play so intensively every time he is on the court is because he has never averaged more than 34 minutes a game in his entire career.

Curry.

[Milbuck]

Westbrook can't carry a team singlehandedly. The reason he can play so intensively every time he is on the court is because he has never averaged more than 34 minutes a game in his entire career.

Curry.
And Curry can? Let's ignore that he has Lee, Bogut, Thompson, Iggy, Barnes, Crawford, Green, etc. While aside from Durant (if Westbrook was running the show), Russ has Ibaka, Collison, Lamb, Jackson, Perkins...

If you put Westbrook on the Warriors I think they'd be ahead of Portland and Houston right now.

[Jailblazers7]

Westbrook can't carry a team singlehandedly. The reason he can play so intensively every time he is on the court is because he has never averaged more than 34 minutes a game in his entire career.

Curry.

Average 35 MPG in the lockout shortened season and averaged 38 MPG in the playoffs in the Finals run. I don't really care about how many minutes he plays in the regular season to be honest.

It's a lot easier to play big minutes when you are coasting on defense...just ask Steph Curry.

[Jailblazers7]

And how did he perform in the Finals? He chucked them out of the series.

He performed fairly well in the Finals. I'm trying to remember who choked in the Finals. Hmm who could it be?

http://media.oregonlive.com/nba_impact/photo/10997484-large.jpg

[Rocketswin2013]

And Curry can? Let's ignore that he has Lee, Bogut, Thompson, Iggy, Barnes, Crawford, Green, etc. While aside from Durant (if Westbrook was running the show), Russ has Ibaka, Collison, Lamb, Jackson, Perkins...

If you put Westbrook on the Warriors I think they'd be ahead of Portland and Houston right now.
If you put Westbrook on the Warriors he'd put up poor man's Iverson numbers. This is a guy shooting sub 45% percentages with the ****ing MVP on his team. If he ran that offense he'd trash their floor spacing and chuck them out of games. This dude is best suited as a 2nd option. Not to mention the amounts of turnovers. Unbelievable how overrated he is.

[Rocketswin2013]

He performed fairly well in the Finals. I'm trying to remember who choked in the Finals. Hmm who could it be?

http://media.oregonlive.com/nba_impact/photo/10997484-large.jpg
He had literally one good game and he made terrible decisions down the stretch in that same game which led to a LeBron 3. Did you even watch? And what did James harden have to do with what I said?

2 good games, 3 bad ones on low volumes > 1 good game in which you ****ed up, 4 bad games at incredibly high volume shooting

[Jailblazers7]

He had literally one good game and he made terrible decisions down the stretch in that same game which led to a LeBron 3. Did you even watch? And what did James harden have to do with what I said?

2 good games, 3 bad ones on low volumes > 1 good game in which you ****ed up, 4 bad games at incredibly high volume shooting

You said he chucked them out of the Finals...as if that was THE deciding factor. I just thought it might be important to note who disappeared in the Finals for 3 games.

I'm not saying Russell played great in the Finals but, outside of game 1, he played pretty well for a 23 year old PG on an inexperienced team that had their 3rd best player MIA for most of the series. He deserves his share of the blame but the loss is not on him.

[Milbuck]

If you put Westbrook on the Warriors he'd put up poor man's Iverson numbers. This is a guy shooting sub 45% percentages with the ****ing MVP on his team. If he ran that offense he'd trash their floor spacing and chuck them out of games. This dude is best suited as a 2nd option. Not to mention the amounts of turnovers. Unbelievable how overrated he is.
1) Since his return Westbrook is averaging 22/5/8/2 on 46/42/84 shooting. And this is coming off his 3rd knee procedure. I don't care if he's playing with the MVP, those are phenomenal numbers. And stop acting like Curry is playing with a bunch of scrubs, and like he gets defenses stacked against him. You don't think a loaded supporting cast of Iggy, Klay, Lee, Bogut, Barnes, Crawford, Green, etc. is taking ANY pressure off Curry? Aside from Durant who the **** is taking pressure off Westbrook? Reggie Jackson? Jeremy Lamb?

2) As for running the offense, your argument is weak yet again. Westbrook has shown this year when he's healthy that he's fully capable of being a great facilitator and getting teammates involved. And if you're going to mention Westbrook's turnovers, why don't you mention the fact that Curry only averages 0.2 less turnovers on 5% less usage?

3) And let's just ignore the monumental difference defensively. Let's ignore that while Westbrook is arguably the best at his position and a vicious point guard defender, Curry is oftentimes a liability. But that doesn't suit your argument, now does it?

[imdaman99]

Curry goes offfffff on Westbrook while holding Westbrook to just below his career averages in FG% and 3FG%. 4.6 TO/gm?!?!?!?! Their rebounding averages are about the same too. The only thing Westbrook does better in any significant way is get steals.
That's hilarious dude. They don't dare let Curry guard Goatbrook :roll: Russ would go off.

But a known Goatbrook hater, I take everything you say with a grain of saltiness :oldlol:

[All Net]

And how did he perform in the Finals? He chucked them out of the series.

No he didn't.

Westbrook didn't do that much wrong and he did have a 41 point game as well. Harden was why they lost or should I say played a big factor in why.

[TheReal Kendall]

I'll take the better defender. I like Curry but only thing he really has over WB is shooting.

I'll take Westbrook

[scm5]

That's hilarious dude. They don't dare let Curry guard Goatbrook :roll: Russ would go off.

But a known Goatbrook hater, I take everything you say with a grain of saltiness :oldlol:

Just trolling Westbrook fans :D

You can take everything I say with a grain of salt, but Westbrook is supposed to be some kind of amazing defender but Curry goes off on him. Stats don't lie. Explain that.

[DuMa]

westbrook easily but there are times where westbrook feels like a cancer. the highs and lows are more noticeable with WB than with Curry

[scm5]

westbrook easily but there are times where westbrook feels like a cancer. the highs and lows are more noticeable with WB than with Curry

The only lows with Curry are his turnovers. Westbrook can be so ridiculous at times.

For WB stans, the only reason why I hate on him so much is because I want KD to succeed and I am adamant that WB is holding him back. If the Thunder did something like WB + filler for Kemba + Big Al, it would have been GG.

[Inferno]

Curry on offense > WB on offense. More assists, more efficient with a lower usage %

WB > Curry on defense

[iznogood]

3) And let's just ignore the monumental difference defensively. Let's ignore that while Westbrook is arguably the best at his position and a vicious point guard defender, Curry is oftentimes a liability. But that doesn't suit your argument, now does it?
I think you're overrating Westbrook's defense. I agree there's a monumental difference, but Westbrook often makes bad plays guarding perimeter players of the ball. He will also get frustrated when he will have to run through a series of screens and sometimes not get back on the defense and complain to the refs instead. I agree with everything else you've written though.

[oarabbus]

It's easier to build around Curry since he doesn't go into NBA2k MyPlayer mode like Westbrook does.

That being said, I won't try to make an argument that Curry is a better player than Westbrook.

Although, when either of them are FEELIN it, they are unstoppable. Curry is the only player in NBA history to get doubled several feet out of the 3pt line.

[iznogood]

For WB stans, the only reason why I hate on him so much is because I want KD to succeed and I am adamant that WB is holding him back. If the Thunder did something like WB + filler for Kemba + Big Al, it would have been GG.
No players will help overcome the fact that OKC is led by a bad coach and is awful at executing half court sets.

[scm5]

No players will help overcome the fact that OKC is led by a bad coach and is awful at executing half court sets.

Kemba/Jackson
Thabo/Lamb
Durant/Butler
Ibaka/Collison
Jefferson/Collison

Sounds like a roster that no coach could mess up.

[joeyjoejoe]

Dunno its close, curry is the better offensive player and wb the better defender its very close, I do see a lot of people saying wb only has durant but think your all forgetting lbaka is actually a pretty good 3rd option and durant is playing better then lebron now, as for not faulting wb for the finals loss u can cite the good game but u can also state the last game of the finals where he went 4/20 and durant and even wb fans were going off on ish saying he's cost them the chip

[iznogood]

Kemba/Jackson
Thabo/Lamb
Durant/Butler
Ibaka/Collison
Jefferson/Collison

Sounds like a roster that no coach could mess up.
I can't agree with you. First of all, Jefferson is primary an isolation post up player, while Thunder primarily runs pick and rolls. Jefferson also needs a lot of balls to be effective and he's pretty useless as a help defender, so I think OKC looses some of the fast break opportunities.
This roster could be very effective with good offensive system, but so could be the OKC's current roster.

[Purch]

You do know playing with the best player in the NBA only inflates stats and doesn't hurt them right? If he wasn't playing with said "BPITNBA" and was in Curry's situation with nobody to play off of and chuck at times, his efficiency would ****ing plummet. And if Curry got all those 1 on 1 Match ups and open looks, lord knows how deadly he would be......

EVEN with this Curry is still a better scorer, playmaker and more efficient.
Right, cause we all know when Wade and Bosh played with Lebron, it clearly inflated their stats.

How can you even make a statement like that o.o

[Rocketswin2013]

Right, cause we all know when Wade and Bosh played with Lebron, it clearly inflated their stats.

How can you even make a statement like that o.o
Wade and Bosh's FG% have skyrocketed over their career highs. And this isn't a big 3, it's a big 2. So his base stats like points, rebounds, and assists will not lower. Even with this, he's a chucker with sub 45% shooting percentages.

[Purch]

Wade and Bosh's FG% have skyrocketed over their career highs. And this isn't a big 3, it's a big 2. So his base stats like points, rebounds, and assists will not lower. Even with this, he's a chucker with sub 45% shooting percentages.

How did you come to this conclusion? Your stats only lower if its a big 3, but not if it's a big 2? Seems like quite a convient argument

[sundizz]

Just think about this; replace WB with Curry and the Thunder are absolutely unstoppable. They'd crush out every team en route to the chip. It'd be no contest this year.

Curry is that good at offense. Beside Lee, the Warriors aren't actually very good scorers. When Curry goes out of the game it is a bit abysmal how bad they look.

Curry + Durant would just be the all time greatest shooting duo in NBA history. Curry would be awesome at playing with Ibaka also. He is a 10/10 pick and roll player. He would get Ibaka open 15 footers all day.

[Bob Dole]

I'll take curry over any pg thats not chris paul.

I have no problem with anyone who chooses westbrook though.

[Inferno]

I'll take curry over any pg thats not chris paul.

I have no problem with anyone who chooses westbrook though.

Basically.

[ImKobe]

Westbrook

[smoovegittar]

3 knee surgeries? I'll take Curry at this point.

[Heavincent]

Curry is the best PG in the game.

[oamjad13]

Curry is the best PG in the game.

If that's what you say bruh

[Kobe_6/8]

Westbrook is a championship PG, Curry isnt

http://i.giftrunk.com/p4t3a2.gif

[Achilleas]

curry better offence ,def and food :pimp:

[keep-itreal]

I like Westbrook because he's alpha but he's all athleticism and zero skill and bbiq.

Kevin Durant should join the Warriors.

Stephen Curry
Klay Thompson
Kevin Durant
Draymon Green
Andrew Bogut

:eek: :eek: :eek:

[nathanjizzle]

Wtf is this bullshit:roll: curry is definitely better. You are comparing a pg who lead his team to win a championship vs a pg who couldnt lead his team to a playoff seed. are you guys ****ing stupid? holy shit.

[warriorfan]

A M C :pimp:

[Lebronxrings]

Wtf is this bullshit:roll: curry is definitely better. You are comparing a pg who lead his team to win a championship vs a pg who couldnt lead his team to a playoff seed. are you guys ****ing stupid? holy shit.
curry? Iggy led that team to the championship.. Whatcha smokin?