Anthony Davis 7 straight games with 28+ points

[Johnny Jones]

Had 34/11 tonight vs the Hawks. :applause:

[moe94]

http://1y4o79syc6g4difua2cvof9qco.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Dunce.jpg

Thought he'd bust.

[fpliii]

Can't believe how underrated he is, SMH.

[Rubio2Gasol]

^ I thought Drummond would be better :roll:

Davis earns huge respect with that 81% clip from the line.

[navy]

Can't believe how underrated he is, SMH.
He's not.

[fpliii]

He's not.
?

Some people recently were saying he's not even a top 3 PF, or a top 10 player. I guess it's possible they're just in the minority, but you gotta :facepalm when you hear that.

[alec613]

Worth rigging the lottery for

[JohnFreeman]

Davis and Cousins are real nikkas, they bringing back the big man :cheers:

[fpliii]

Davis and Cousins are real nikkas, they bringing back the big man :cheers:
:cheers:

:pimp:

[Rubio2Gasol]

?

Some people recently were saying he's not even a top 3 PF, or a top 10 player. I guess it's possible they're just in the minority, but you gotta :facepalm when you hear that.

Jesus, top 3 PF? Top 10 player. That just straight disrepsectful to Griffin Love and LMA.

Calma

Guy is great, but his team has one of the worst records in the league.

[Johnny Jones]

Jesus, top 3 PF? Top 10 player. That just straight disrepsectful to Griffin Love and LMA.

Calma

Guy is great, but his team has the worst record in the league.:biggums:

[moe94]

Jesus, top 3 PF? Top 10 player. That just straight disrepsectful to Griffin Love and LMA.

Calma

Guy is great, but his team has one of the worst records in the league.

Name 10 players better than Davis. :oldlol:

[Rubio2Gasol]

:biggums:

Edited :lol

[notatop29pg]

Jesus, top 3 PF? Top 10 player. That just straight disrepsectful to Griffin Love and LMA.

Calma

Guy is great, but his team has one of the worst records in the league.

??

[Johnny Jones]

Edited :lol
:cheers:

Also, I don't think LMA should be mentioned for top 3 PFs. Guy is taking 21 shots to score 23 points(!!!).

[Rocketswin2013]

He's good.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Paul
Parker
Curry
Westbrook
Lebron
Durant
George
Love
Griffin
LMA

Just in my opinion I suppose. LMA definitely better for me, much better scorer, regardless of the stats.

[fpliii]

Paul
Parker
Curry
Westbrook
Lebron
Durant
George
Love
Griffin
LMA

Just in my opinion I suppose. LMA definitely better for me, much better scorer, regardless of the stats.
Disagree with the bolded. Obviously your call though.

[Rocketswin2013]

Anthony Davis is not even a top 15 defender right now.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Can we agree that saying he's the 4th best PF player in the league and a top 20 player is not "disrespectful"

Dude done nothing, he having a good run, but damn, top ten used to mean something. Remember Griffin's rookie year people wanted to put him in the top ten, same thing when Love went off in his 3rd year or something. Just stop that. LMA, Blake and Love earned it by improving their games.

TP, I guess he ain't doing as much this year. Replace with Noah.

[fpliii]

Can we agree that saying he's the 4th best PF player in the league and a top 20 player is not "disrespectful"

Dude done nothing, he having a good run, but damn, top ten used to mean something. Remember Griffin's rookie year people wanted to put him in the top ten, same thing when Love went off in his 3rd year or something. Just stop that. LMA, Blake and Love earned it by improving their games.

TP, I guess he ain't doing as much this year. Replace with Noah.
We'll have to agree to disagree then, I guess, my good man.

Noah would be in there for sure though IMO, tremendous player. Love watching him play.

[Bless Mathews]

:cheers:

Also, I don't think LMA should be mentioned for top 3 PFs. Guy is taking 21 shots to score 23 points(!!!).
Slayed.

Davis > lma

[Inferno]

PF's

Davis
Griffin
Love
LMA/Dirk

[JohnFreeman]

http://i.minus.com/ibhx0fM6lExCgO.gif

http://i.minus.com/ibbUVq4M4AOgHD.gif

[EnoughSaid]

Only players that you say for sure are better than Davis:

LeBron
Durant
CP3
Griffin
Love

You can make an argument that Davis is better/has a bigger impact on the game than anybody not mentioned.

[JohnFreeman]

Flpiii, imagine Davis on the Clippers instead of Griffin :eek:

[fpliii]

Flpiii, imagine Davis on the Clippers instead of Griffin :eek:
I'm actually a big BG fan, but it'd be a great watch for sure. :pimp:

[JohnFreeman]

I'm actually a big BG fan, but it'd be a great watch for sure. :pimp:
That extra defensive presence would be insane

[Rocketswin2013]

Only players that you say for sure are better than Davis:

LeBron
Durant
CP3
Griffin
Love

You can make an argument that Davis is better/has a bigger impact on the game than anybody not mentioned.
Lol......yet his team will lose at least 50 games this season.
So take him off the Pelicans and they become the Sixers? Doubt it.


Like I said, he's nowhere near an elite defender and his offensive stats are "meh" compared to other guys. Stop overrating him seriously it's getting out of hand.

[fpliii]

That extra defensive presence would be insane
Definitely, he'd love the lobs too.

Homie needs to put on some muscle though.

[JohnFreeman]

Definitely, he'd love the lobs too.

Homie needs to put on some muscle though.
Yeah he needs to lift a bit. Hopefully Embiid will be good so we can have great big matchups :cheers:

[fpliii]

Yeah he needs to lift a bit. Hopefully Embiid will be good so we can have great big matchups :cheers:
:cheers:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

That extra defensive presence would be insane
Blakes a better defender. His 2nd yr he didnt anchor a bottom 3 defense

Davis is prolly the most overrated player in the league

Blake, Love, Dirk and LMA are all better PFs
Hes good player but only made AS b/c of injury to Kobe. Hes a top 20 player ppl think are top 10 for some dumb reason

[Rocketswin2013]

:facepalm


You guys are some pathetic boxscore watchers.

Replay.nbaonline.tv


Watch any of these pelicans games. He ****ing sucks at defense.

[JohnFreeman]

Blakes a better defender. His 2nd yr he didnt anchor a bottom 3 defense

Davis is prolly the most overrated player in the league

Blake, Love, Dirk and LMA are all better PFs
Hes good player but only made AS b/c of injury to Kobe. Hes a top 20 player ppl think are top 10 for some dumb reason
Griffin is nowhere near the defender Davis is.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

:facepalm


You guys are some pathetic boxscore watchers.

Replay.nbaonline.tv


Watch any of these pelicans games. He ****ing sucks at defense.
B-b-b-but BLOCKS:roll: :roll:
he sucks on pickandroll, bites on every pump fake, loses man and position constantly

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Griffin is nowhere near the defender Davis is.
Based on what exactly? Blocks? LOL

[fpliii]

B-b-b-but BLOCKS:roll: :roll:
he sucks on pickandroll, bites on every pump fake, loses man and position constantly
Bolded is false (I've watched almost every NO game this season homie), but he does gamble too much. He needs to put some mass on too, so he can guard his man down low.

[aj1987]

Blakes a better defender. His 2nd yr he didnt anchor a bottom 3 defense

Davis is prolly the most overrated player in the league

Blake, Love, Dirk and LMA are all better PFs
Hes good player but only made AS b/c of injury to Kobe. Hes a top 20 player ppl think are top 10 for some dumb reason
:facepalm @ LMA and Dirk being better than Davis.
This just proves that you're nothing but a box score watcher. Try to watch a Pelicans game. Dude is a beast defensively.


http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Anthony_Davis_great_defensive_play_against_Deron_W illiams.gif

[Rocketswin2013]

Blakes a better defender. His 2nd yr he didnt anchor a bottom 3 defense

Davis is prolly the most overrated player in the league

Blake, Love, Dirk and LMA are all better PFs
Hes good player but only made AS b/c of injury to Kobe. Hes a top 20 player ppl think are top 10 for some dumb reason
They seriously think he's some great defender, one on one he's liability on the low-post because he's undersized and he gets shredded in Pick N rolls. He doesn't even block shots on weakside defense, he blocks 3's and random shots all of the court. Which shows the ability but sometimes he's just lost out there.

[JohnFreeman]

Based on what exactly? Blocks? LOL
Griffin really isn't a great defender.

[moe94]

Watch any of these pelicans games. He ****ing sucks at defense.

:rolleyes:

[Uncle Drew]

B-b-b-but BLOCKS:roll: :roll:
he sucks on pickandroll, bites on every pump fake, loses man and position constantly
AD's defensive rating is just as good as Hakeem's in his first two seasons (and Hakeem was playing with f-ing Ralph Sampson) and better than KG's in his first two seasons.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Bolded is false (I've watched almost every NO game this season homie), but he does gamble too much. He needs to put some mass on too, so he can guard his man down low.
Hes ranked 176th on Synergy in pickandroll defense defending the roll man:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[moe94]

Are retards really suggesting Davis is a bad defender? Done heard it all now.

[fpliii]

Hes ranked 176th on Synergy in pickandroll defense defending the roll man:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
Because he switches a lot. When a big dude comes barreling down, he can't guard on the drive.

He needs to put on some muscle.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

:facepalm @ LMA and Dirk being better than Davis.
This just proves that you're nothing but a box score watcher. Try to watch a Pelicans game. Dude is a beast defensively.


http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Anthony_Davis_great_defensive_play_against_Deron_W illiams.gif
WTF Davis has BETTA boxscore numbers than them his impact is overrated why are the Pels a bottom 3 defense if hes so great:confusedshrug:
DWill crossed him he made insane recovery b/c of athleticm+length

he makes many mistakes, undisciplined, poor fundamentals and skills on defense

[JohnFreeman]

Are retards really suggesting Davis is a bad defender? Done heard it all now.
Durant stans are scared that Davis is coming

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Griffin really isn't a great defender.
Neither is Davis tho
the difference is negligible and Blake is much superior offensively

[Uncle Drew]

WTF Davis has BETTA boxscore numbers than them his impact is overrated why are the Pels a bottom 3 defense if hes so great:confusedshrug:

Name one player that defends all five players on his own, at the same time.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Are retards really suggesting Davis is a bad defender? Done heard it all now.
Not a bad defender, not a great one
he avg right now but could be great.

[aj1987]

WTF Davis has BETTA boxscore numbers than them his impact is overrated why are the Pels a bottom 3 defense if hes so great:confusedshrug:
DWill crossed him he made insane recovery b/c of athleticm+length

he makes many mistakes, undisciplined, poor fundamentals and skills on defense
Are you ****ing serious? All you've is talk about defensive stats, to show that Davis is a bad defender. Watch a Pelicans game, as I said. He's a great defender. They'er a bottom 3 defense because the team SUCKS. How is that not hard to understand? Put KD on that team and they'll be 30th in DRtg.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Name one player that defends all five players on his own, at the same time.
Excuses excuses
Jrue and Aminu are both solid defenders. Gordon sucks. Smith is avg
they bee plenty of alltime great defenders w/ worse support that anchored better defense like KG Wolves

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Are you ****ing serious? All you've is talk about defensive stats, to show that Davis is a bad defender. Watch a Pelicans game, as I said. He's a great defender. They'er a bottom 3 defense because the team SUCKS. How is that not hard to understand? Put KD on that team and they'll be 30th in DRtg.
Yeah Davis better defensively so wut:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
theyd be top5 offense with KD:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[fpliii]

Excuses excuses
Jrue and Aminu are both solid defenders. Gordon sucks. Smith is avg
they bee plenty of alltime great defenders w/ worse support that anchored better defense like KG Wolves
You gotta figure Monty Williams is out after this year too. That should help their defense out.

[Uncle Drew]

Excuses excuses
Jrue and Aminu are both solid defenders. Gordon sucks. Smith is avg
they bee plenty of alltime great defenders w/ worse support that anchored better defense like KG Wolves
Jrue has been injured for basically the whole season you idiot. And I'm sure none of those had a bad coach like Davis does have right now. Also:

Anthony Davis defensive rating:
12/13 (1st season): 104
13/14 (2nd season): 104

Kevin Garnett defensive rating:
95/96 (1st season): 107
96/97 (2nd season): 105

Hakeem Olajuwon defensive rating (with Ralph Sampson):
84/85 (1st season): 103
85/86 (2nd season): 102

[Draz]

Thank the Lord for the Hawks loss.

[JohnFreeman]

Bring in Hollins. Would love to see Pels make a push

[aj1987]

Jrue has been injured for basically the whole season you idiot. And I'm sure none of those had a bad coach like Davis does have right now. Also:

Anthony Davis defensive rating:
12/13 (1st season): 104
13/14 (2nd season): 104

Kevin Garnett defensive rating:
95/96 (1st season): 107
96/97 (2nd season): 105

Hakeem Olajuwon defensive rating (with Ralph Sampson):
84/85 (1st season): 103
85/86 (2nd season): 102
But but but... DRtg says they are bad defenders!

[JohnFreeman]

Jrue has been injured for basically the whole season you idiot. And I'm sure none of those had a bad coach like Davis does have right now. Also:

Anthony Davis defensive rating:
12/13 (1st season): 104
13/14 (2nd season): 104

Kevin Garnett defensive rating:
95/96 (1st season): 107
96/97 (2nd season): 105

Hakeem Olajuwon defensive rating (with Ralph Sampson):
84/85 (1st season): 103
85/86 (2nd season): 102
http://pbs.twimg.com/media/A-KymkcCQAAm8T4.jpg:large

[Rocketswin2013]

Are you ****ing serious? All you've is talk about defensive stats, to show that Davis is a bad defender. Watch a Pelicans game, as I said. He's a great defender. They'er a bottom 3 defense because the team SUCKS. How is that not hard to understand? Put KD on that team and they'll be 30th in DRtg.

You're truly pathetic. You're literally saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying, just without the actual game watching. Do you have any idea on how shitty he is one on one in the paint? Do you know he wanders has late rotations more often than not? His PNR defense is nothing I'll even go through and describe.


He's a ****ing black hole fundamentally. I actually like him, and was really restraining from trashing him like this for quite some time now, but people have gone too far and if you think he's an elite NBA player you're a dunce.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Jrue has been injured for basically the whole season you idiot. And I'm sure none of those had a bad coach like Davis does have right now. Also:

Anthony Davis defensive rating:
12/13 (1st season): 104
13/14 (2nd season): 104

Kevin Garnett defensive rating:
95/96 (1st season): 107
96/97 (2nd season): 105

Hakeem Olajuwon defensive rating (with Ralph Sampson):
84/85 (1st season): 103
85/86 (2nd season): 102
Flip Saunders and Bill Fitch was worse than Monty:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: u dunno WTF ur talking about:roll: :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

Kevin Garnett didn't anchor a top 10 defense until his 9th season.

[CelticBaller]

Kevin Garnett didn't anchor a top 10 defense until his 9th season.
overrated doe :confusedshrug:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Kevin Garnett didn't anchor a top 10 defense until his 9th season.
He had worse teammates and was playing in the most stacked defensive era ever
Try again

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

You're truly pathetic. You're literally saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying, just without the actual game watching. Do you have any idea on how shitty he is one on one in the paint? Do you know he wanders has late rotations more often than not? His PNR defense is nothing I'll even go through and describe.


He's a ****ing black hole fundamentally. I actually like him, and was really restraining from trashing him like this for quite some time now, but people have gone too far and if you think he's an elite NBA player you're a dunce.
They dont understand basketball let em keep thinkin AD a elite defender:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[aj1987]

You're truly pathetic. You're literally saying the exact opposite of what I'm saying, just without the actual game watching. Do you have any idea on how shitty he is one on one in the paint? Do you know he wanders has late rotations more often than not? His PNR defense is nothing I'll even go through and describe.


He's a ****ing black hole fundamentally. I actually like him, and was really restraining from trashing him like this for quite some time now, but people have gone too far and if you think he's an elite NBA player you're a dunce.
Bookmarked for when AD makes the All-Defensive team and wins the DPOY in the next couple of years. :facepalm
What was/is your previous/other account, BTW?

Good god, you guys don't understand basketball.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Bookmarked for when AD makes the All-Defensive team and wins the DPOY in the next couple of years. :facepalm
What was/is your previous/other account, BTW?

Good god, you guys don't understand basketball.
Players change u dumb POS:roll: :roll: :roll:
THIS season AD not elite defense maybe in future:confusedshrug:

[Rocketswin2013]

Jrue has been injured for basically the whole season you idiot. And I'm sure none of those had a bad coach like Davis does have right now. Also:

Anthony Davis defensive rating:
12/13 (1st season): 104
13/14 (2nd season): 104

Kevin Garnett defensive rating:
95/96 (1st season): 107
96/97 (2nd season): 105

Hakeem Olajuwon defensive rating (with Ralph Sampson):
84/85 (1st season): 103
85/86 (2nd season): 102
Defense of young NBA talents are usually lackluster, don't compare him to OTHER young legends, compare him to OTHER NBA players right NOW. We're not debating his potential were debating him right NOW. And idiots think he's a even serviceable defensive player and an ELITE player, he's an elite talent, NOT player. Just look at DeAndre Jordan his first years with the Clips.

[Johnny Jones]

Hes ranked 176th on Synergy in pickandroll defense defending the roll man:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
:roll: :roll:

That's total bullshit. He's ranked 28th :roll: :roll:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Defense of young NBA talents are usually lackluster, don't compare him to OTHER young legends, compare him to OTHER NBA players right NOW. We're not debating his potential were debating him right NOW. And idiots think he's a even serviceable defensive player. Just look at DeAndre Jordan his first years with the Clips.
That dumb nikka comparing DRTG across eras he has no clue WTF he talkin bout or the stat at all:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Uncle Drew]

Flip Saunders and Bill Fitch was worse than Monty:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: u dunno WTF ur talking about:roll: :roll:

Bill Fitch was selected as one of the top 10 coaches in NBA history. What has Monty done exactly?

[Johnny Jones]

In fact, he is not ranked 176th in anything. The lowest he's ranked he's 181st, and that's for spot up...

[Johnny Jones]

Ham taro fckin exposed :roll: :roll: :roll: Dis niqqa make up stats yo :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Rocketswin2013]

That dumb nikka comparing DRTG across eras he has no clue WTF he talkin bout or the stat at all:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
And yes, that's another flaw.

:facepalm

[JohnFreeman]

That dumb nikka comparing DRTG across eras he has no clue WTF he talkin bout or the stat at all:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
:facepalm

[moe94]

:roll: :roll:

That's total bullshit. He's ranked 28th :roll: :roll:
oh shit

confirm it

[Uncle Drew]

Defense of young NBA talents are usually lackluster, don't compare him to OTHER young legends, compare him to OTHER NBA players right NOW. We're not debating his potential were debating him right NOW. And idiots think he's a even serviceable defensive player and an ELITE player, he's an elite talent, NOT player. Just look at DeAndre Jordan his first years with the Clips.
Is Dwight Howard a good example?

Dwight Howard defensive rating
04/05 (1st season): 104
05/06 (2nd season): 103

Same stats as Davis right now.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

:facepalm
Is all u post tumblr GIF and emoticons:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[Rocketswin2013]

Bookmarked for when AD makes the All-Defensive team and wins the DPOY in the next couple of years. :facepalm
What was/is your previous/other account, BTW?

Good god, you guys don't understand basketball.
Anthony Davis will probably pull a Dwight Howard and 3-peat as DPOY, I've have said and I know people have seen me say "when he figures it all out, it'll be scary". But right now, he hasn't figured it out.

[Johnny Jones]

oh shit

confirm it

:applause: :applause:
http://i.imgur.com/rREHxuQ.png

Ham taro you dumb ass niqqa :applause: :applause: :roll: :roll:

[Johnny Jones]

Is all u post tumblr GIF and emoticons:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:
you dumb ass niqqa all you do is say niqqa and post the :roll: :roll: emoticon :roll: :applause: :bowdown: :rockon:

[Rocketswin2013]

:applause: :applause:
http://i.imgur.com/rREHxuQ.png

Ham taro you dumb ass niqqa :applause: :applause: :roll: :roll:
None of his ranks are good........

[Johnny Jones]

None of his ranks are good........
I've said AD's defense is overrated in the past but is still very good. He has a terrible coach and is in a terrible defensive scheme.

Plus, synergy defense stats are misleading. If you watch the games you will see how impressive his defensive abilities actually are.

[Uncle Drew]

None of his ranks are good........
http://puu.sh/7EBqZ.png

Would you say this guy is a good defender?

[aj1987]

Thanks to the SportsVU data, we now have access to data that describes how well players perform around the rim -- an area where teams take the most attempts and have the highest conversion rates. Anthony Davis holds opponents to a 45.8 FG%, a mark that surpasses Tim Duncan, Dwight Howard and Andre Drummond.


Just to make sure we're not missing anything, lets have a look at what synergy sports has to say on the matter. Currently, Davis allows .78 PPP, good for 22nd in the league. He is strong in every facet -- ranking in the top 30 in isolations, PnR men, spot-ups and post-ups.

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2014/1/28/5352306/in-defense-of-anthony-davis
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/1/29/5351704/anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans-statistics-analysis

Again, AD is on a team which has horrid defenders. Monty also deserves a bit of criticism for how the defensive schemes are being designed.

[Johnny Jones]

Also, Dwight gives up .83 PPP overall. Rocketsfan, do you consider him a good defender? Cause the stats clearly show that he is actually not good.

[moe94]

Also, Dwight gives up .83 PPP. Rocketsfan, do you consider him a good defender? Cause the stats clearly show that he is actually not good.

You goin in doe :oldlol:

[Johnny Jones]

http://www.thebirdwrites.com/2014/1/28/5352306/in-defense-of-anthony-davis
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/1/29/5351704/anthony-davis-new-orleans-pelicans-statistics-analysis

Again, AD is on a team which has horrid defenders. Monty also deserves a bit of criticism for how the defensive schemes are being designed.
FWIW, the 2nd quote is from January. I have noticed that AD's defense has droppen off in the past few months, but don't think the decline is as drastic as synergy suggets.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Also, Dwight gives up .83 PPP overall. Rocketsfan, do you consider him a good defender? Cause the stats clearly show that he is actually not good.

:roll:

Has one of the better defensive PG's in the league too :roll:

[Johnny Jones]

:roll:

Has one of the better defensive PG's in the league too :roll:
Synergy stats don't lie nikka.

[Rocketswin2013]

I didn't cite Synergy, but link it... let's see what you're looking at exactly......

:durantunimpressed:

[Keno]

durant better enjoy his only mvp, lebron and anthony davis are going to claim the next four.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Dude's been balling :applause:

People calling him a bad defender?? Seriously??? I mean, he gets overrated when people start to say he's already a great defensive player and what-not, he still has ways to go but he's already pretty good and has crazy potential (overall too).


Jrue has been injured for basically the whole season you idiot. And I'm sure none of those had a bad coach like Davis does have right now. Also:

Anthony Davis defensive rating:
12/13 (1st season): 104
13/14 (2nd season): 104

Kevin Garnett defensive rating:
95/96 (1st season): 107
96/97 (2nd season): 105

Hakeem Olajuwon defensive rating (with Ralph Sampson):
84/85 (1st season): 103
85/86 (2nd season): 102

Comparing advanced stats across eras (instead of against their peers in a certain year)?

Using (just) drtg to say who's the better defender?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[kamil]

durant better enjoy his only mvp, lebron and anthony davis are going to claim the next four.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2817947/billbored.gif

[Uncle Drew]

Comparing advanced stats across eras (instead of against their peers in a certain year)?

Using (just) drtg to say who's the better defender?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
That defensive rating stuff goes way back bro. In fact, it was Hamtaro who brought those dudes up.

[noob cake]

haters gtfo,

Davis is a beast defensively. This guy blocks jump shots by wing players. Tell me another PF/C that does that regularly.

[LAZERUSS]

I honestly never ever saw this coming.

I am not even sure what his ceiling will be now.

Quite possibly the best big man in the game right now, and who knows just how great he will be?

[allball]

Been watching NBA since the 70s. Davis will be an all time great if he stays healthy.

Funny we're talking about one of the greatest defenders in college basketball history in his second year only 20 years old and guys are worried about stats and ratings. I've watched quite a few Pelicans games and opponents fear AD's presence. he will get stronger in the paint.

Just 4 years ago this kid started his junior high school season as a 6'4" guard. he was 6'1" his sophomore year.

Give it time naysayers. give it time.

[Rocketswin2013]

It's really sad what NBA fandom has become. Because ****ing idiots like all you in this thread would rather watch "Dawk ins" or "GD's latest highlights" highlights on YouTube than actual games. Somebody just called him the best big-man in the game. I'm ****ing done.

[longtime lurker]

Anthony Davis will be the best player in the league in the next 3 years.

[Rocketswin2013]

Anthony Davis will be the best player in the league in the next 3 years.
That is my EXACT stance on it, but right now he is not top 15

[Johnny Jones]

It's really sad what NBA fandom has become. Because ****ing idiots like all you in this thread would rather watch "Dawk ins" or "GD's latest highlights" highlights on YouTube than actual games. Somebody just called him the best big-man in the game. I'm ****ing done.
Dude, stop with this shit. I've wathced almost every Pelican game this year, and Davis is still very good on defense. Did AD **** your girl or something?

[K Xerxes]

It's really sad what NBA fandom has become. Because ****ing idiots like all you in this thread would rather watch "Dawk ins" or "GD's latest highlights" highlights on YouTube than actual games. Somebody just called him the best big-man in the game. I'm ****ing done.

Watching actual games, it's clear that his defensive impact is already amazing. While it is true that he gambles a bit too much (and this will improve as he gets older), he reads the offense as a whole very well and his court awareness is ahead of his age. And, from the games I've watched, so many players have had to alter the arc of their shots because they're afraid he might come over. You don't teach that kind of impact. Sort of like a young Hakeem.

I have no idea what games you're watching because virtually everyone else who watches Pelicans games agrees that he's a very good defender.

I would say he has a case for best big man in the league, and I don't believe there is anything wrong with saying that.

[Rocketswin2013]

Done here. He won't make the playoffs, pretty much will be irrelevant for awhile more.
And like Kenny Smith said, "You never see great bigmen on bad teams"

So keep overstating his impact. It doesn't change reality.

:dancin

[longtime lurker]

That is my EXACT stance on it, but right now he is not top 15

Let's not get out of hand now. I bet you couldn't name 15 players playing at a higher level than Davis this year.

[Johnny Jones]

Done here. He won't make the playoffs, pretty much will be irrelevant for awhile more.
And like Kenny Smith said, "You never see great bigmen on bad teams"

So keep overstating his impact. It doesn't change reality.

:dancin
Yeah, let's just forgot the injuries the Pelicans have had this year and how 3 D-Leaguers have seen major time because of the injuries. :dancin :dancin

[K Xerxes]

Done here. He won't make the playoffs, pretty much will be irrelevant for awhile more.
And like Kenny Smith said, "You never see great bigmen on bad teams"

So keep overstating his impact. It doesn't change reality.

:dancin

Interesting. Kareem led his teams to losing records in 75 and 76, missing the playoffs both times. I suppose he wasn't a great bigman in those seasons either...

[Cone]

davis >>> love

[VIP2000]

Done here. He won't make the playoffs, pretty much will be irrelevant for awhile more.
And like Kenny Smith said, "You never see great bigmen on bad teams"

So keep overstating his impact. It doesn't change reality.

:dancin

It's his friggin' second season. And two of the starters on his team have been out for the season.

[Bandito]

:facepalm


You guys are some pathetic boxscore watchers.

Replay.nbaonline.tv


Watch any of these pelicans games. He ****ing sucks at defense.
He needs to get some muscle fast. But he has a chance to be realy good in the future.

[LeGOAT]

Inb4 30 and 30 vs the Heat

[Harison]

Love the guy, so much potential :applause:

[hawksdogsbraves]

I honestly never ever saw this coming.

I am not even sure what his ceiling will be now.

Quite possibly the best big man in the game right now, and who knows just how great he will be?

How did this catch you unawares? He was the number one recruit out of high school, carried his college team to a championship, won a Naismith, was called the best prospect since Durant/Oden, and now he's tearing up the league like everyone said he would. Where in there did you get confused?

[secund2nun]

Can't believe how underrated he is, SMH.

It will remain that way. Big men are very underrated while guards and SFs are very overrated. Just look at how much damn hype Paul George gets yet Davis is way better than PG.

[TheMarkMadsen]

hope he gets traded or leaves the pelicans

such a stupid name with a terrible looking court/jerseys

this shit matters!! :mad:

[Copperhead]

hope he gets traded or leaves the pelicans

such a stupid name with a terrible looking court/jerseys

this shit matters!! :mad:

Grow the eff up.

[Copperhead]

WTF Davis has BETTA boxscore numbers than them his impact is overrated why are the Pels a bottom 3 defense if hes so great:confusedshrug:
DWill crossed him he made insane recovery b/c of athleticm+length

he makes many mistakes, undisciplined, poor fundamentals and skills on defense

Sure, he's still learning the way of the NBA defense but he's a good defender. It's about time dumb mofos like you realize that defense is a team thing. If he has a point guard that easily lets players get by him, that puts the other players on the team out of position and such. The point guard is supposed to be the first line of defense and currently, since Holiday is out, Brian Roberts gets blown by and others have to make up for him.

[LAZERUSS]

How did this catch you unawares? He was the number one recruit out of high school, carried his college team to a championship, won a Naismith, was called the best prospect since Durant/Oden, and now he's tearing up the league like everyone said he would. Where in there did you get confused?

Virtually NO ONE heard of Davis before his SENIOR season in HS. And in his SENIOR season in HS, his TEAM went 6-19. He put up a 32-22 season that year, but in limited games, and against poor competition.

In his ONLY college season, he averaged 14.2 ppg, 10.4 rpg, shot .623, and had 4.7 bpg.


I'm sorry, but those puny numbers were certainly no indication of what he has become in his second NBA season.

[KyrieTheFuture]

No one could have predicted he would be able to score this well, this early.

[Heavincent]

Best big man in the game.

[ZenMaster]

I honestly never ever saw this coming.

I am not even sure what his ceiling will be now.

Quite possibly the best big man in the game right now, and who knows just how great he will be?

It fits with your posts in the Thon Maker thread, that young big guy prospects needs to play a very certain way for you to consider them talented.

Time to expand your horizon.

[LAZERUSS]

It fits with your posts in the Thon Maker thread, that young big guy prospects needs to play a very certain way for you to consider them talented.

Time to expand your horizon.

The problem is...I could probably find HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of COLLEGE players who have had 14-10 seasons. Am I supposed to assume that ALL of them would go on to be as productive as Davis has been this season?

[Milbuck]

The problem is...I could probably find HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of COLLEGE players who have had 14-10 seasons. Am I supposed to assume that ALL of them would go on to be as productive as Davis has been this season?
Except that you're completely ignoring his obvious defensive impact...and nearly 5 blocks per game. Did you watch him at Kentucky?

[LAZERUSS]

Except that you're completely ignoring his obvious defensive impact...and nearly 5 blocks per game. Did you watch him at Kentucky?

That was not the point. Did his defensive impact give us ANY indication that he would be a 20-10 player, and actually better than that, in his NBA career?

[Smoke117]

:cheers:

Also, I don't think LMA should be mentioned for top 3 PFs. Guy is taking 21 shots to score 23 points(!!!).


I was saying that back when everyone was jumping on the LMA bandwagon. The guy just does not get to the line like a big man should. He reminds of Sheed in that way from his Blazer days except Sheed was more efficient. Neither could get to the line though. Aldridge is a better all around player this year than he was last year, but he's actually worse as a scorer. He's barely sitting above .50ts%

[ZenMaster]

The problem is...I could probably find HUNDREDS, if not THOUSANDS of COLLEGE players who have had 14-10 seasons. Am I supposed to assume that ALL of them would go on to be as productive as Davis has been this season?

No but if you watched him, the way he moves and covers ground, his speed, touch around the basket, good shooting form, great catch and finish player, you'd see he was special with a lot of potential for the NBA pickn'roll game.

[LAZERUSS]

No but if you watched him, the way he moves and covers ground, his speed, touch around the basket, good shooting form, great catch and finish player, you'd see he was special with a lot of potential for the NBA pickn'roll game.

So, you KNEW that a player who had ONE great HS season, and on a horrible team (and whom nobody heard of before his senior year),and against weak competition, and ONE college season of 14-10...would be a 20-10 NBA player in his second year, and potentially much greater?

You should send your resume to every NBA team...

[hawksdogsbraves]

So, you KNEW that a player who had ONE great HS season, and on a horrible team (and whom nobody heard of before his senior year),and against weak competition, and ONE college season of 14-10...would be a 20-10 NBA player in his second year, and potentially much greater?

You should send your resume to every NBA team...

Nearly every scout, pundit, and front office person was comparing him to KG and Tim Duncan leading up to the draft. People said he would've been the number one pick in every draft going back to Oden/Durant. He only averaged 14/10 but anybody who watched him could tell he was the best player on the floor in every game he played.

Did people think he'd average 20/10 in his second year? I don't see why not. Blake did it so it's not like there's no precedent. I guess maybe some people thought it would take longer for him to fill out his frame but him having early success isn't surprising to anyone.

[ZenMaster]

So, you KNEW that a player who had ONE great HS season, and on a horrible team (and whom nobody heard of before his senior year),and against weak competition, and ONE college season of 14-10...would be a 20-10 NBA player in his second year, and potentially much greater?

You should send your resume to every NBA team...

I find it interesting that we deal with potential so differently, your evaluation is so result based while I just mentioned a bunch of specific technical basketball traits.
I never saw him in high school, but I've been saying that he's the #1 basketball talent in the world since his first game in college. Nobody his age moved like he did, they still don't.

I don't consider myself special knowing this, heard other people say it as well.
I mean wasn't Blake scoring around 20 in his rookie year?

If you scout someone it's not about saying that this guy will hit these excact stats at certain age, but about not concluding limitations that eventually prove false.
So if you in your mind conclude that someone won't score 20 in the NBA because they weren't a 1on1 post player in college, while all other parts of the player points to the opposite, well then you've made a bad scouting decision.

I don't need to send my resume to the NBA, don't think I'm good enough for that. But I am in the business of coaching kids usually 15-20 years old and do know a thing or two about spotting talent.

[Milbuck]

That was not the point. Did his defensive impact give us ANY indication that he would be a 20-10 player, and actually better than that, in his NBA career?
Yes it absolutely did. Once again, if you watched him at Kentucky, you would be able to see it. He had guard like instincts and absurd physical gifts for his size. He didn't show elite post skills for his age like Embiid is currently showing, but it was petty clear that his offensive upside was sky high. There was a reason he was far and away the #1 pick, and widely considered an all-time great caliber talent. If you couldn't see it, that's something different entirely.

[notatop29pg]

And another.

[fpliii]

And another.
:banana:

[Im Still Ballin]

The Prince.

Successor to the throne.

He is worthy of Lebron.

[RonSwanson]

Love my Kentucky boys tearing it up. Bledsoe, Wall, Cousins, Davis, hell even T Jones is ballin

[russwest0]

Second best player in the game.

[SpecialQue]

Dude's really long.

[SHAQisGOAT]

:applause:

[Yankstar]

He tore bran a new a hole :roll:

[aj1987]

Second best player in the game.
KD ain't that bad, bro. He still is better than AD.


Anyways, AD is a BEAST. Dude has been wet from everywhere on the floor. Took a MASSIVE dump on "superstar" RuPaul Bosh as well. Funny how the ****** ass haters have gone into ghost mode. Talking about Hamtaro and Rockets.

[WWRWestbrookDo?]

Random thought..but can you imagine teams trying to get passes through Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis? Damn that duo would be insane.

[aj1987]

Random thought..but can you imagine teams trying to get passes through Kawhi Leonard and Anthony Davis? Damn that duo would be insane.
They would absolutely wreck teams on the defensive end. That length would just be too much. What are their wingspans, BTW?

[Trollsmasher]

PER - 27,1

2nd best at 20 years old - LeBron - 25,7

AD the future GOAT

[DaOldLion]

PER - 27,1

2nd best at 20 years old - LeBron - 25,7

AD the future GOAT


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