Why does Kobe only have two scoring titles?

[truhooper]

You would think a player known for being a scoring assassin would have more :confusedshrug: :biggums:

Players that won it on Kobe's watch:

A.I.: 4 times
KD: 4 times
Tmac: Twice
Lebron
Flash
Melo

[JohnFreeman]

When did KD win his 4th?

[navy]

Most people have scoring titles outside of Durant when they play on weaker teams with a license to chuck. Kobe won his titles on scrub teams. When he got Gasol he lost some chucking ability.

[Smook A.]

Those guys just had better scoring seasons :confusedshrug:

[KDthunderup]

When did KD win his 4th?
this year *****

[LAZERUSS]

He didn't care to win them more often...

[Akrazotile]

He aint got no cosististy.

He aint cosistent.

[JohnFreeman]

Kobe was too tied up winning rings

[moe94]

Melo never averaged 30 PPG or higher.

"best scorer of his generation"

[alec613]

He conceded one to Durant not that long ago.

He doesn't care

[TheMarkMadsen]

Whenever Durant has a good game and gets some momentum against Lebron, a Kobe hate thread pops up :lol

anyways, Kobe's led the league in total points 4 times

Lebron has never done this

Wade has done this once

KD has done this for 5 straight years..

[JohnFreeman]

Melo never averaged 30 PPG or higher.

"best scorer of his generation"
2010 playoffs

[NumberSix]

Because the refs keep gifting them to Deuxrant.

[Fudge]

When did KD win his 4th?
Talking like anybody else has a chance this year. :oldlol:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Most people have scoring titles outside of Durant when they play on weaker teams with a license to chuck. Kobe won his titles on scrub teams. When he got Gasol he lost some chucking ability.


led the league in total points scored in 2008

[jstern]

FG%

[LAZERUSS]

A "shooting" Kobe... 35.4 ppg in a league that averaged 97.0 ppg.

[moe94]

Whenever Durant has a good game and gets some momentum against Lebron, a Kobe hate thread pops up :lol

anyways, Kobe's led the league in total points 4 times

Lebron has never done this

Wade has done this once

KD has done this for 5 straight years..

Total points? :roll:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Total points? :roll:

yes total points, as in most points scored that season.

[NumberSix]

Total points? :roll:
Why does that warrant laughter? I see no reason why total points is less relevant than PPG.

[alec613]

Total points? :roll:

Shouldn't be too hard to understand, right?

[ProfessorMurder]

Too busy being gifted 1st team defense.

[9erempiree]

Kobe doesn't care about scoring titles. How about that one year where he sat out the last game and Durant won his title.

It was Kobe's to lose and he decided he didn't want it.

[HOoopCityJones]

Too busy being gifted 1st team defense.

Just like Steve Nash's gifted MVP's.

Would say Lebron , but that ol argument is dead tired.

He kinda earned em the last two times.

[moe94]

Why does that warrant laughter? I see no reason why total points is less relevant than PPG.

Shouldn't be too hard to understand, right?

Let's put it this way, a worse scorer can acquire more points because....he played more games.

[PsychoBe]

Let's put it this way, a worse scorer can acquire more points because....he played more games.

or....how about this leap in logic.....


because he's a better scorer?

[MMM]

I've never seen anyone use total points in an argument for great scorers. I mean Paul Pierce was a good scorer but I guess him leading total points one season can uplift is resume as a scorer.

[moe94]

Total god damn points? Come on. Am I too high or are y'all messing with me right now?

[TheMarkMadsen]

Let's put it this way, a worse scorer can acquire more points because....he played more games.


the exact opposite of that happened last year when Melo won the scoring title :lol

[PsychoBe]

Total god damn points? Come on. Am I too high or are y'all messing with me right now?

you're thinking too hard. keep it simple.

he led the league in total points.

that's all you need to know.

[NumberSix]

Let's put it this way, a worse scorer can acquire more points because....he played more games.
Playing the games is what actually counts. Last year Melo stole the scoring title even though he scored hundreds less points and missed like 30 games.

[MMM]

So I guess they should give scoring titles to total points I mean it is not like the MLB gives the HR champion to the leader in HR/ at bats.

[9erempiree]

Total god damn points? Come on. Am I too high or are y'all messing with me right now?

You probably smoked yourself stupid.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I've never seen anyone use total points in an argument for great scorers. I mean Paul Pierce was a good scorer but I guess him leading total points one season can uplift is resume as a scorer.


PP was 3rd in ppg that year

the two people ahead of him in ppg that year were

Iverson who played 60 games..

Shaq who played 66

PP played 82.

[miller-time]

He conceded one to Durant not that long ago.

He doesn't care

No he wanted it more than anything. He didn't concede. He couldn't keep going, he was gassed out.

[moe94]

You probably smoked yourself stupid.

Go make another thread that somehow involves Kobe randomly only for it to get deleted within seconds.

[MMM]

Playing the games is what actually counts. Last year Melo stole the scoring title even though he scored hundreds less points and missed like 30 games.

Damn so runner up could only muster up a 100 point advantage dispite playing all the games. Melo must of been putting up a Bonds like rate.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Damn so runner up could only muster up a 100 point advantage dispite playing all the games. Melo must of been putting up a Bonds like rate.

:biggums:

Durant scored 360 more points than Melo.

Melo played 67 games

Durant played 81 games

Durant averaged 28.1 ppg and scored 2,280 points

Melo averaged 28.7ppg and scored 1,920 points

[MMM]

Seems desperate that people are using total points. One thing I think 99.999 % of basketball fans can agree on is Kobe's scoring ability. He doesn't need scoring titles and bringing up how many times he had lead total points because his scoring ability is self evident.

[alec613]

No he wanted it more than anything. He didn't concede. He couldn't keep going, he was gassed out.

It's not like the Lakers were playing back-to-back

[MMM]

:biggums:

Durant scored 360 more points than Melo.

Melo played 67 games

Durant played 81 games

Durant averaged 28.1 ppg and scored 2,280 points

Melo averaged 28.7ppg and scored 1,920 points

Misread the post I quoted

[theoneneo]

Kobe has scored more in a second half of a game than Durants career and Dwade high in 4 quarters.

Kobe has scored more in three quarters on at least 2 occasions than Lebron's, Tmac, and Iversons career high.

When a guy can score like this, scoring titles are irrelevant.

[Mr Exlax]

Kobe has 2 scoring titles. He's a great scorer. LeBron only has 1 and I know bhe's a hell of a scorer. Same with Melo.

[MMM]

Kobe has scored more in a second half of a game than Durants career and Dwade high in 4 quarters.

Kobe has scored more in three quarters on at least 2 occasions than Lebron's, Tmac, and Iversons career high.

When a guy can score like this, scoring titles are irrelevant.

Agreed but this thread seems ridiculous with people mentioning total points. I guess Vasquez should get mentioned for leading assist totals

[HOoopCityJones]

Agreed but this thread seems ridiculous with people mentioning total points. I guess Vasquez should get mentioned for leading assist totals

Same feeling I get when people try to argue hard for Player X being better than player Y because of PER an FG%. :confusedshrug:

[rlsmooth775]

Out of all the all time greats kobe is the most overrated.

[Batz]

Only on ISH NBA Forum board would 2 NBA Scoring titles be considered in an 'only' fashion. Bravo, tools.

[9erempiree]

Out of all the all time greats kobe is the most overrated.

Only on ISH NBA Forum board would an all time great be considered 'overrated'. Bravo, tools.

[MMM]

Only on ISH NBA Forum board would 2 NBA Scoring titles be considered in an 'only' fashion. Bravo, tools.

Holy shit Batz

Where u been

[TheMarkMadsen]

Agreed but this thread seems ridiculous with people mentioning total points. I guess Vasquez should get mentioned for leading assist totals

Rondo, Rose, Nash, Paul, Wall all missed significant time.

4/5 of those players were top 5 in assist the year before

go year by year and look at the top 5 leaders in total points.

Would be like Melo, Durant, Bron & WB each playing less than 60 games, scoring leader that year would be more of a consolation prize

[rlsmooth775]

Only on ISH NBA Forum board would an all time great be considered 'overrated'. Bravo, tools.

Kobe is a great player who's skills are exaggerated by obsessed fans.

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe is a great player who's skills are exaggerated by obsessed fans.

Same for Lebron and KD.

Only people who truly deserved their praise is Jordan and Shaq in that case, because they were just flat-out dominant.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Sub par shooting nights. Kobe is the least consistent of ALL the top 10 candidates.

[JohnMax]

Most people have scoring titles outside of Durant when they play on weaker teams with a license to chuck. Kobe won his titles on scrub teams. When he got Gasol he lost some chucking ability.

Kobe is top 3 in shots attempts every year

:biggums:

[MMM]

Kobe is a great player who's skills are exaggerated by obsessed fans.

I've always felt Kobe's impact was overrated but his skills are self evident. Again I would think 99.99 % would agree at his immense skill level.

[Keno]

what's the purpose of bringing up total points as if it has any relevancy in this discussion? do you win the meaningless scoring title for points per game or total points? yea, exactly.

[Ass Dan]

what????

2

F*ck me,the world's greatest chucker with only two scoring titles.

man oh man it is hard to support the Lakeshow with all these Kobe ******gers talking like he is STILL the second coming.

OH-ver-ray-ted clap clap, clapclapclap!

[sbw19]

Shaq
Iverson took a ton of shots
Pre-injury Orlando McGrady, ditto

back then if you didn't average 22.5+ FGA you didn't have a realistic chance of winning a scoring title

...after that won 2 then..

landed Gasol and played alongside role players who were good scorers like Odom and Bynum and a supporting cast that was about offense for the most part, and he missed out on winning a 3rd by .1 to Durant

since then Durant took over and pretty much he's a lock to win many more scoring titles as he's by far the most prolific scorer today

[JellyBean]

He didn't care to win them more often...

This......

[LAZERUSS]

Of course we all know that if you gave DeAndre Jordan, or Drummond, or Chandler 25+ FGAs per game, that they would run away with scoring titles, right?

[LakersForlife]

A.I. GOATscorer :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Deuce Bigalow]

One of those scoring titles was the 8th highest ppg season of alltime and highest since 1987-88.

Led the playoffs in scoring 3 times and in total playoff points 4 times.

#1 ppg (27.7) and total points (28,495) from 2000-present.

31,700 points - 4th alltime
5,640 points (playoffs) - 3rd alltime
419 30-point games - 5th alltime
88 30-point games (playoffs) - 2nd alltime
120 40-point games - 3rd alltime
13 40-point games (playoffs) - 4th alltime
24 50-point games - 3rd alltime
1 50-point games (playoffs) - 5th alltime
5 60-point games - 2nd alltime

[Sarcastic]

Of course we all know that if you gave DeAndre Jordan, or Drummond, or Chandler 25+ FGAs per game, that they would run away with scoring titles, right?

Of course. Chucking is easy.

[eliteballer]

People say he's always played on stacked teams, then they blame him for not having more scoring titles? Pick one or the other.

[D.J.]

Guys like AI, T-Mac, and Wade in '09 had to score that much in order for their teams to win games. Once the Lakers got Gasol, Kobe didn't need to go off because he had some help.