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Jameerthefear
03-23-2014, 03:28 PM
TBH current Dwight is probably better than the majority of his years ever. Just felt that I needed to say this.

HomieWeMajor
03-23-2014, 03:29 PM
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/291103066777756156632857.gif

SexSymbol
03-23-2014, 03:29 PM
Definitely not, prime sabas, pre-achilles injury would castrate Dwight in a blink of an eye.
Cold war prevented the NBA from having Sabas in the top 10-15.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-23-2014, 03:30 PM
nikka u 12yo:lol :lol :lol u dont know sht about Sabonis why do u even have a Penny pic u neva watch him play:lol :lol :biggums:

Jameerthefear
03-23-2014, 03:34 PM
nikka u 12yo:lol :lol :lol u dont know sht about Sabonis why do u even have a Penny pic u neva watch him play:lol :lol :biggums:
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.

Black and White
03-23-2014, 03:35 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Jameer rocking a Penny pic now??? I remember a few weeks ago I was debating Penny with him and he said Penny did nothing for the Magic :oldlol:

Wally450
03-23-2014, 03:36 PM
Real talk, no one can judge a player who they've never seen play. And I'm not talking about watching highlights, and looking at basketball reference. Actually watching the games. I never saw him play so I'm not one to judge. I saw Yao Ming and Howard play and I'll take Ming over Howard anyway, not just looking at statistics.

R.I.P.
03-23-2014, 03:37 PM
http://vimeo.com/38554391

Jameerthefear
03-23-2014, 03:37 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Jameer rocking a Penny pic now??? I remember a few weeks ago I was debating Penny with him and he said Penny did nothing for the Magic :oldlol:
what the hell are you talking about? I didn't say that. Stop making shit up.

Black and White
03-23-2014, 03:38 PM
what the hell are you talking about? I didn't say that. Stop making shit up.

You said he doesn't deserve to get his jersey retired too

SexSymbol
03-23-2014, 03:39 PM
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.
why don't you go back to the way you've been posting before.
This gimmick of yours is terrible, abandon it

Jameerthefear
03-23-2014, 03:40 PM
You said he doesn't deserve to get his jersey retired too
I'd say now that he does. Him and Jameer.

Smook A.
03-23-2014, 03:40 PM
I barely got to see Sabonis play since im only 24 but from what I hear he was a very good player pre-injury. I saw some highlights and noticed he was pretty versatile for a center. He had a jumper and a post game.

I love Dwight but the current one wouldn't be able to beat the pre-injury Sabonis.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
03-23-2014, 03:41 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png

Uncle Drew
03-23-2014, 03:41 PM
Hahahahaha.

zoom17
03-23-2014, 03:41 PM
http://www.miscupload.com/upload/291103066777756156632857.gif

:oldlol:

Bless Mathews
03-23-2014, 03:42 PM
Jameer the queer strikes again. Smh......

blazersfan52
03-23-2014, 03:50 PM
I'd love to see Dwight make the passes the Sabonis could make, or the jumpshots.

Basketbolero
03-23-2014, 03:52 PM
Is the queer trying to be funny or something?

Milbuck
03-23-2014, 04:00 PM
Wayne D strikes again.

FatComputerNerd
03-23-2014, 04:00 PM
Even an old post-injury Sabonis would have pooped all over Dwight.

IncarceratedBob
03-23-2014, 04:02 PM
Old Sab was better than peak Shaq

Black and White
03-23-2014, 04:21 PM
:facepalm Jameer decides that Penny deserves his jersey retired now after trashing him??

PsychoBe
03-23-2014, 04:44 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

20Four
03-23-2014, 04:47 PM
Jameer you a fool son...why u rockin the penny jersey after what you said? Going back on your word eh? Sounds like lebron :roll:

SexSymbol
03-23-2014, 05:17 PM
Jameer you a fool son...why u rockin the penny jersey after what you said? Going back on your word eh? Sounds like lebron :roll:
The best way to kill yourself would be to jump off your ego down to your IQ level :cheers:

Bandito
03-23-2014, 05:29 PM
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.
:facepalm

Bandito
03-23-2014, 05:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png
:roll: :roll: :roll:



But either way, after injury Sabonis had one of the best offensive games in years. Just imagine a Gasol on roids. You really think Dwight can stop a guy that doesn't depend on his own strength to be effective? A prime Dwight couldn't even stop Gasol.

Jameerthefear
03-23-2014, 06:18 PM
bump.

Shade8780
03-23-2014, 06:23 PM
bump.
FFS jameer, why you become a troll?

smoovegittar
03-23-2014, 06:24 PM
Another brilliant post I see. Pathetic teenager. :facepalm

HomieWeMajor
03-23-2014, 06:27 PM
My houseni99a Jammer earning Jeff that adsense money #AllHunnidsMayne#WhenwegonnagetVbulletin5doe

Bless Mathews
03-23-2014, 06:30 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png
Slay of the year nominee.

Shade8780
03-23-2014, 06:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png
:roll:

Rodmantheman
03-23-2014, 06:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png

slayed.

iznogood
03-23-2014, 08:45 PM
I've seen tons of Sabonis games and I'd say the only big man that could compare skill wise was Walton. Sabonis wasn't really great defender, but his size and feeling for the game made him somewhat decent on the defensive end as well.

b1imtf
03-23-2014, 08:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

AirTupac
03-23-2014, 08:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png

Stay losing Jameer the Queer :lol

ThePhantomCreep
03-23-2014, 08:58 PM
Gay thread. Peak Sabonis would slap Howard around for fun.

Xiao Yao You
03-23-2014, 09:22 PM
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.


Highlites and stats don't show what a great player he was. He was a real pleasure to watch play post injuries. The douche in Houston not so much.

Mr.Kite
03-23-2014, 09:50 PM
the fakkit OP jacks off to this


http://licdn.awwni.me/n7zl.jpg
so cute


Nothing more to say.

Jameerthefear
03-23-2014, 10:09 PM
Highlites and stats don't show what a great player he was. He was a real pleasure to watch play post injuries. The douche in Houston not so much.
Just your opinion.

ProfessorMurder
03-24-2014, 12:48 AM
Was David Robinson better than Dwight?

Rodmantheman
03-24-2014, 12:54 AM
This guy is better

http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/fe0398b5fb86fa0a79b827c8abb7d926/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/SPORTS/2013/01/the-25-greatest-centers-in-nba-history/walton_452713.jpg

Cali Syndicate
03-24-2014, 12:55 AM
Was David Robinson better than Dwight?

Nope. Highlights show Dwight as the far superior player. Not even close. Have you ever seen the superman dunk? :no:

Rodmantheman
03-24-2014, 12:55 AM
Him too

http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/c88cca08086f3691d3c8a1941986ed43/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/SPORTS/2013/01/the-25-greatest-centers-in-nba-history/mutombo_452713.jpg

Rodmantheman
03-24-2014, 12:57 AM
http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/2f0b27b804c99b255be3e3c8d2dc358a/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/SPORTS/2013/01/the-25-greatest-centers-in-nba-history/cowens_452713.jpg

Xiao Yao You
03-24-2014, 01:34 AM
Nope. Highlights show Dwight as the far superior player. Not even close. Have you ever seen the superman dunk? :no:

Admiral was on another level. :facepalm

ThePhantomCreep
03-24-2014, 01:44 AM
Was David Robinson better than Dwight?
Without the slightest bit of doubt.

Howard is a slightly better Mourning, with MUCH less heart.

Xiao Yao You
03-24-2014, 04:17 AM
Without the slightest bit of doubt.

Howard is a slightly better Mourning, with MUCH less heart.

I'd take Zo.

Cali Syndicate
03-24-2014, 05:21 AM
Admiral was on another level. :facepalm

I was trying to be sarcastic.

And I'd also take mourning over Dwight.

SHAQisGOAT
03-24-2014, 07:22 AM
Stop it with the ignorant shit, son :facepalm

chazzy
03-24-2014, 11:00 AM
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.
This should be ISH's slogan

CelticBaller
03-24-2014, 11:03 AM
Lol did someone say Dwight Was better than the Admiral?

Droid101
03-24-2014, 11:25 AM
This should be ISH's slogan
Jeff change out the banner image please.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4O2KsGkx0GM/UzBONQRzJhI/AAAAAAAAnwQ/VyAXq4UjyoA/w377-h283-no/blank.jpg

Basketbolero
03-24-2014, 11:29 AM
Jeff change out the banner image please.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4O2KsGkx0GM/UzBONQRzJhI/AAAAAAAAnwQ/VyAXq4UjyoA/w377-h283-no/blank.jpg
:lol :bowdown: :bowdown:
Shamelessly stealing it to rock it as avatar

DMV2
03-24-2014, 11:30 AM
http://i.imgur.com/sSkZ47C.png
Somebody should change "12-Year NBA Center" to 12-Year-Old NBA Fan.

Wavves
03-24-2014, 11:35 AM
Jeff change out the banner image please.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4O2KsGkx0GM/UzBONQRzJhI/AAAAAAAAnwQ/VyAXq4UjyoA/w377-h283-no/blank.jpg

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

ProfessorMurder
03-24-2014, 01:31 PM
Without the slightest bit of doubt.

Howard is a slightly better Mourning, with MUCH less heart.

I know that, but I was asking Jameer.

If Robinson is better than Dwight, and Sabonis dumped on Robinson in the olympics and went toe to toe with prime Shaq, he's clearly a better player than Dwight.

Clyde
03-24-2014, 01:36 PM
TBH current Dwight is probably better than the majority of his years ever. Just felt that I needed to say this.

How could you possibly make any type of educated comparison not having seen one guy play?

youtube?? GTFO.

GaryRaymond23
03-24-2014, 01:38 PM
:banghead:

I don't even know why I chose to read this thread.

WallIn
03-24-2014, 01:40 PM
How did you come up with this?

Genius

R.I.P.
03-24-2014, 02:05 PM
Was David Robinson better than Dwight?

Is that even a question?

I already posted some highlights from their 1986 match.

20Four
03-24-2014, 02:06 PM
How did you come up with this?

Genius
He's jameer...a dvmbass mental midget who doesn't own up to his bets...we will ALWAYS remember you b|tched out :cheers:

Sakkreth
03-24-2014, 02:16 PM
You are extremely stupid even for 15yo.

Mr Exlax
03-24-2014, 02:21 PM
I'm a big D12 fan, but damn Jam you tripping. Young Sabo was a beast. Even when he was in the NBA he was still killing it. He was just so skilled. He wasn't as athletic as Dwight, but overall he was better than prime Dwight.

Clyde
03-24-2014, 02:22 PM
youtube know all???
:facepalm

CeltsGarlic
03-24-2014, 02:39 PM
Jeff change out the banner image please.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4O2KsGkx0GM/UzBONQRzJhI/AAAAAAAAnwQ/VyAXq4UjyoA/w377-h283-no/blank.jpg
:roll:

2LeTTeRS
03-24-2014, 02:49 PM
I know that, but I was asking Jameer.

If Robinson is better than Dwight, and Sabonis dumped on Robinson in the olympics and went toe to toe with prime Shaq, he's clearly a better player than Dwight.

A 24 year old Sabonis did outplay D Rob, but it must be stated that Robinson was a year removed from his last game at the moment. Not sure how that one game proves anything here though -- even without that it was clear that Sabonis was much more talented than Dwight on offense.

The question is how much would he have impacted the game at an NBA-level on D. From everything we've seen I think he would have done at least enough to be considered above Dwight level.

kaiteng
03-24-2014, 03:12 PM
Only Dwight can shoot threes.

Sakkreth
03-24-2014, 03:31 PM
As if Dwight isn't hated enough :lol

smoovegittar
03-24-2014, 04:45 PM
:roll:
No truer words spoken,

YouGotServed
03-24-2014, 05:25 PM
Obviously, Dwight is miles ahead of Sabonis.

QuebecBaller
03-24-2014, 07:19 PM
Jeff change out the banner image please.


https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4O2KsGkx0GM/UzBONQRzJhI/AAAAAAAAnwQ/VyAXq4UjyoA/w377-h283-no/blank.jpg

:lol :lol :lol :lol
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Sharmer
03-24-2014, 08:10 PM
let this be a lesson to the facebook/twitter generation. You don't mess with old skool, unless you been there.

TheReal Kendall
03-24-2014, 08:12 PM
http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/nwld.gif

kNicKz
03-24-2014, 08:55 PM
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.

:facepalm

Euroleague
03-24-2014, 08:58 PM
:facepalm

The clown that claims Arroyo is the best player in Europe has no right to talk............

Euroleague
03-24-2014, 09:01 PM
Obviously, Dwight is miles ahead of Sabonis.

Dwight isn't even half as good as Bourousis.

Jameerthefear
03-24-2014, 09:02 PM
Dwight isn't even half as good as Bourousis.
No one knows who the hell that is.

Round Mound
03-24-2014, 09:02 PM
Not Against The Healthy Sabonis Prior to 1987 :no:

Boarder Patrol
03-24-2014, 09:03 PM
Euro and Jameer featured in the same thread.

The universe can't handle this :lol

Bandito
03-24-2014, 09:11 PM
The clown that claims Arroyo is the best player in Europe has no right to talk............
Never said he was the best player in Europe. Just better than Spanoullis. Spanoullis isn't even the best player in Greece.

moe94
03-24-2014, 09:17 PM
No one knows who the hell that is.
lmfao

Basketbolero
03-24-2014, 09:18 PM
No one knows who the hell that is.
Go find some youtube videos of him

Round Mound
03-24-2014, 09:25 PM
Arvydas Sabonis-Before Injuries 1986 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06usV6451ik

Sabonis 1986 vs madrid .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAqUQpROBfU

:bowdown:

Jameerthefear
03-24-2014, 09:27 PM
Arvydas Sabonis-Before Injuries 1986 .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06usV6451ik

:bowdown:
Already seen that video. Weak league/short white guys/weak era.
You should watch some Dwight Howard highlights. Will show you how a real center plays.

Round Mound
03-24-2014, 09:38 PM
Already seen that video. Weak league/short white guys/weak era.
You should watch some Dwight Howard highlights. Will show you how a real center plays.

:facepalm :rolleyes: :no:

This is The Weakest Era of Centers Ever....So Dwight Plays Against Nobodies and Has Zero Post Game, Passing Game or Skill Level Game At All. He Is In The Level of Mutombo At Best.

Sabonis Prior To His Injuries Was a Top 6 GOAT Center With Ease.

Check The Other Video I Put Too Below That. This Healthy Version of Sabonis Would Have Owned Anybody But Wilt, Kareem, Shaq or Hakeem

Rocketswin2013
03-24-2014, 09:43 PM
:facepalm :rolleyes: :no:

This is The Weakest Era of Centers Ever....So Dwight Plays Against Nobodies and Has Zero Post Game, Passing Game or Skill Level Game At All. He Is In The Level of Mutombo At Best.

Sabonis Prior To His Injuries Was a Top 6 GOAT Center With Ease.

Check The Other Video I Put Too Below That. This Healthy Version of Sabonis Would Have Owned Anybody But Wilt, Kareem, Shaq or Hakeem
To be fair, this entire era is built around making the position irrelevant. You cannot tell me the rule changes don't hurt centers significantly.

Round Mound
03-24-2014, 09:54 PM
To be fair, this entire era is built around making the position irrelevant. You cannot tell me the rule changes don't hurt centers significantly.

[B]Shaq and Duncan Seem to Be Fine As Great Post Players With The Rule Changes. :confusedshrug:

Howard

YouGotServed
03-24-2014, 10:03 PM
Dwight isn't even half as good as Bourousis.

USA 2008, 2010 and 2012 gold medalist. Next.

Straight_Ballin
03-24-2014, 10:04 PM
I am 15. I have seen the youtube highlights. That is enough for me.

^
lol I feel sorry for you that you never got to watch the best player who ever lived play and instead have to settle watching others eat where the great one already shit

Round Mound
03-24-2014, 10:39 PM
Literally all of Duncan and Shaq' s stats regressed in this era. And don't play the "age" card because you brought them up. Dwight could do so much more without that 3 second and Charles Barkley rule. Along with being able to play physical in the low-post because refs award flops against Dwight so much. This is why Dwight always averages much better numbers in the playoffs.

[B]Don