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CavaliersFTW
03-25-2014, 02:53 AM
Just picture in your mind for a moment... what would a Larry Bird or a Doctor J do when they made amazing plays... they quickly ran back on defense, didn't even look at the crowd most of the time let alone their opponent, and they never pounded their chest or screamed like a ****ing animal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyeXaAG-99w

This pound-your-chest-screaming-in-celebration generation of players makes me cringe. It's as cheesy and dramatic as watching reality tv competitors get all worked up on survivor. Unless the trend gets even more extreme in the future (which I just can't see happening) this era is going to be looked at in the future as one of the corniest softest era's in history with all the chest pounding, mean mugging, and ticy tac foul flopping despite the historically all-time low level of physicality. Good Christ that was an uncontested putback during the middle of a regular season game, calm the **** down Taj and get back on defense, it is your job to go for rebounds like that not a feat that required the energy output of a Super Saiyan.

IncarceratedBob
03-25-2014, 02:54 AM
Ask Quinton Ross

ILLsmak
03-25-2014, 02:56 AM
dudes do it in college, too. I know if I was a coach I'd outlaw that shit. The first rule is celebrate AFTER the game because if you celebrate during the game and lose, you are a fool in hindsight.

-Smak

russwest0
03-25-2014, 03:02 AM
goddamn, that was embarassing :oldlol: act like you've been there before, Taj.

LeBrons chest thumping celebration shit is stupid as hell too. looks so forced.

Durant is the best at not falling into this line of shit. Dude will murder your team down the stretch, hit the game winner, and then walk off the floor with a dead stare on his face.

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:04 AM
goddamn, that was embarassing :oldlol: act like you've been there before, Taj.

LeBrons chest thumping celebration shit is stupid as hell too. looks so forced.

Durant is the best at not falling into this line of shit. Dude will murder your team down the stretch, hit the game winner, and then walk off the floor with a dead stare on his face.
John Wall knows all about screaming lmao

Milbuck
03-25-2014, 03:06 AM
It was like a 3 second thing, he just got caught up in the excitement. It's not like it was planned out or thought out. If it was something like Lebron's celebration after his game-winner against GS, where it was blatantly planned out (and painfully corny), that makes sense.

CavaliersFTW
03-25-2014, 03:07 AM
BTW the calm and composed defense of Kirk that started the break >>> the rebound by Taj. Why Taj decided to turn into a Super Saiyan after that rebound is beyond me I have no clue why he even thought that was such a huge deal.

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:07 AM
It was like a 3 second thing, he just got caught up in the excitement. It's not like it was planned out or thought out. If it was something like Lebron's celebration after his game-winner against GS, where it was blatantly planned out (and painfully corny), that makes sense.
^ this even we had beef in the past milbuck ill agree with this lol

CavaliersFTW
03-25-2014, 03:12 AM
http://media.giphy.com/media/4LZMbupnugNUj2tv313a/giphy.gif








...middle of a regular season game, wow so amazing Taj






http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/cringebrit.gif

Wavves
03-25-2014, 03:13 AM
Who cares, is my opinion. There's no right or wrong way to go about. A player is allowed to celebrate after making a play the same way as a player can do nothing.

I enjoy seeing the passion of the guys that celebrate. Even Lebron's weird celebration is fun, although corny :oldlol:

no pun intended
03-25-2014, 03:14 AM
nothing wrong with enjoying the game :confusedshrug:

Wavves
03-25-2014, 03:15 AM
And after reading your post again, you really do just seem like a bitter old man CavaliersFTW lol

Eric Cartman
03-25-2014, 03:19 AM
NBA players should act like robots unable to express any emotion, and to titillate us with any thought otherwise is just absurd.

Deuce Bigalow
03-25-2014, 03:22 AM
Would it have killed Wilt to just be a little clutch?

Milbuck
03-25-2014, 03:22 AM
NBA players should act like robots unable to express any emotion, and to titillate us with any thought otherwise is just absurd.
Peter Griffin?

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:28 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

Dr.J4ever
03-25-2014, 03:29 AM
Well, not only was Doc one of the all-time greats, but he was one of the classiest individuals in NBA history. Come to think of it, though, not many from the past generations celebrated like howling mad men like they do today.
So yeah, it's got to be a generation thing.

Is basketball today a more emotional sport than it used to be? Now, in the NFL, even during the 80s, you had Mark Gastineau(remember him) gyrating after a sack. So did the NFL's popularity rub off on a whole generation of future NBA stars?

CavaliersFTW
03-25-2014, 03:29 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif
:biggums:

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:31 AM
:biggums:
My GIF didnt post LMAO I FAIL haha

http://imgur.com/zCMKQpM.gif

CavaliersFTW
03-25-2014, 03:32 AM
My GIF didnt post LMAO I FAIL haha
I got it tho :lol

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:33 AM
I got it tho :lol
What did I do wrong? How come mine didnt show? lol

update:

I got it lmao

Deuce Bigalow
03-25-2014, 03:34 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

That's one more gamewinner than Wilt Chamberlain.

Milbuck
03-25-2014, 03:37 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

That's one more gamewinner than Wilt Chamberlain.
:whatever:

Stay strong CavsFTW, reply to him and he gets what he wants.

Eric Cartman
03-25-2014, 03:38 AM
Peter Griffin?

:cheers:

Milbuck
03-25-2014, 03:42 AM
:cheers:
:cheers: Had to point it out, obscure but impressive reference.

God damn that show used to be great.

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:42 AM
http://i.minus.com/iJGYlCc3emBA.gif

moe94
03-25-2014, 03:42 AM
Did he have fun? Stupid bastard.

SHAQisGOAT
03-25-2014, 03:48 AM
That ain't even much though.. Sometimes I just cringe with some of that stuff, pulling all types of shit after a made 3 or a dunk :facepalm Just get your ass back on defense.

Imagine that shit against these guys:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svHk8Zntc5g&t=3m39s

moe94
03-25-2014, 03:51 AM
Durant is the best at not falling into this line of shit. Dude will murder your team down the stretch, hit the game winner, and then walk off the floor with a dead stare on his face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsEkCY8qPcc

http://31.media.tumblr.com/436fe3da17b0e357e4ddf5db8116454a/tumblr_mpnsntBO2D1st3xfjo1_r1_500.gif

russwest0
03-25-2014, 03:57 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this shit is sad

20Four
03-25-2014, 03:57 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this shit is sad
I knew you would like that one rus....LMAO


http://i.minus.com/iCfSBDW88z9NQ.gif

AirFederer
03-25-2014, 03:58 AM
It`s a Bulls thing...

http://i.minus.com/iRCrIpnjN8n5W.gif

But seriously, why is this bad? It shows the care, it brings emotions. Not bad at all :banana:

20Four
03-25-2014, 04:44 AM
http://i.imgur.com/BgPbVjl.jpg

LOL leBRONZE

I<3NBA
03-25-2014, 08:41 AM
that shit would stop if teams would punish them by running a fast break while they're celebrating.

plowking
03-25-2014, 09:08 AM
Does anyone care what the OP writes anymore? Dude is full of it.

Im Still Ballin
03-25-2014, 09:09 AM
No it wouldn't kill them, haha.

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 09:29 AM
OP is so ****ing lame. This is why he like 60's ball.

BlackVVaves
03-25-2014, 09:39 AM
BTW the calm and composed defense of Kirk that started the break >>> the rebound by Taj. Why Taj decided to turn into a Super Saiyan after that rebound is beyond me I have no clue why he even thought that was such a huge deal.

Super Saiyans have golden hair, old sport.

East_Stone_Ya
03-25-2014, 09:48 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

this shit is sad

still better than crying

imdaman99
03-25-2014, 10:02 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif
http://cf.badassdigest.com/_uploads/images/14834/ceasarapesfeat__index.jpg

Prometheus
03-25-2014, 10:03 AM
I agree 100% with OP. The worst is Joakim Noah. Whenever I watch the Bulls play, his ****ing ridiculous Tourette freakouts over every single little thing that he does has me on perma-cringe.

It is a thousand times cooler and more badass to make spectacular plays and then remain ice cold like nothing even happened.

As for LeBron's celebration, I admit it's pretty corny, but he does it on purpose any time he hits a game-winner in an opposing building. The hands pushing down are supposed to be the opposite of raising the roof, like he's sucking the air out of the building. It looks forced most of the time, but at least it makes sense, and now that he's accumulated a bunch of them, it sort of puts a signature on his game-winners, makes them more memorable, and therefore helps a little to dispel the lingering myth that he is not clutch.

SexSymbol
03-25-2014, 10:04 AM
Weak era for celebrating

pudman13
03-25-2014, 10:06 AM
This pound-your-chest-screaming-in-celebration generation of players makes me cringe.

There are a number of reasons I don't enjoy basketball as much as I used to. One is something that will never go away (the three-pointer), but this is the other big one for me.

This is also one of the reasons that Tim Duncan is my favorite active player.

By the way, there's a bit difference between happy celebration and in-your-face bad sportsmanship, also between team glory and me-me-me arrogance. Contrast Jordan's reaction to his famous shot against the Cavs, or John Stockton's reaction to his 3 that put the Jazz into the finals vs. the chest-pounding we see today.

kNicKz
03-25-2014, 10:07 AM
That's why Kenyon Martin is one of my favorite players . That energy. I love when players get hype..

Have you ever played ball CavsFTW? Making a big play is probably one of the most exciting feelings in the world. (In any sport) If I caught that dunk I would be screaming

leMVP
03-25-2014, 10:16 AM
Butthurt cavs fan.

until next season maybe.

coin24
03-25-2014, 10:20 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

That's just embarrassing :oldlol:

SilkkTheShocker
03-25-2014, 10:22 AM
Just picture in your mind for a moment... what would a Larry Bird or a Doctor J do when they made amazing plays... they quickly ran back on defense, didn't even look at the crowd most of the time let alone their opponent, and they never pounded their chest or screamed like a ****ing animal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyeXaAG-99w

This pound-your-chest-screaming-in-celebration generation of players makes me cringe. It's as cheesy and dramatic as watching reality tv competitors get all worked up on survivor. Unless the trend gets even more extreme in the future (which I just can't see happening) this era is going to be looked at in the future as one of the corniest softest era's in history with all the chest pounding, mean mugging, and ticy tac foul flopping despite the historically all-time low level of physicality. Good Christ that was an uncontested putback during the middle of a regular season game, calm the **** down Taj and get back on defense, it is your job to go for rebounds like that not a feat that required the energy output of a Super Saiyan.

Are you going to burn his jersey now?

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 10:24 AM
Old fvckheads like the OP is the reason we have techs for excessive celebration. "players should be like robots" get real dude.

SilkkTheShocker
03-25-2014, 10:26 AM
goddamn, that was embarassing :oldlol: act like you've been there before, Taj.

LeBrons chest thumping celebration shit is stupid as hell too. looks so forced.

Durant is the best at not falling into this line of shit. Dude will murder your team down the stretch, hit the game winner, and then walk off the floor with a dead stare on his face.

Durant will also cry on his mom like a little bitch when his team loses.

:oldlol:

Rake2204
03-25-2014, 10:31 AM
I typically have little to no issue with spontaneous celebration. In fact, I enjoy it. Like kNicKz above, that's why Kenyon Martin was one of my favorites to watch when he was attacking the rim. He brought unbridled energy to the table.

When I was in high school, I went through a stage my sophomore year where I tried to suppress all of of my emotions during games. I have to be honest and say it actually affected my game. It took more energy to not celebrate or react sometimes than if I would have just let myself go a little.

It all came to a head when an official called me for a T for hitting the backboard while trying to block a shot. I was enraged, but I just calmly walked down the floor, and on tape it makes it look like an admission of guilt, even. One of my teammates came over and was like, "C'mon! Snap out of it!" Even on a bad call, my teammates just wanted me to show I cared. The clip (P.S. What's the story with that call?): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYvtZr3AvAA&feature=youtu.be

So from there on out, I began letting go a little bit, letting myself fist pump in triumph, yelling from time to time, and otherwise getting pumped. And it worked. It gets one's own juices flowing, one's teammates, and often incites the crowd. Celebrating or being energetic doesn't mean players think they've already won. Instead, it just adds a touch of excitement to the game and supplies an adrenaline rush, which can be beneficial.

stanlove1111
03-25-2014, 11:03 AM
Just picture in your mind for a moment... what would a Larry Bird or a Doctor J do when they made amazing plays... they quickly ran back on defense, didn't even look at the crowd most of the time let alone their opponent, and they never pounded their chest or screamed like a ****ing animal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyeXaAG-99w

This pound-your-chest-screaming-in-celebration generation of players makes me cringe. It's as cheesy and dramatic as watching reality tv competitors get all worked up on survivor. Unless the trend gets even more extreme in the future (which I just can't see happening) this era is going to be looked at in the future as one of the corniest softest era's in history with all the chest pounding, mean mugging, and ticy tac foul flopping despite the historically all-time low level of physicality. Good Christ that was an uncontested putback during the middle of a regular season game, calm the **** down Taj and get back on defense, it is your job to go for rebounds like that not a feat that required the energy output of a Super Saiyan.

This is what you are going to get with this thread. Older people with some dignity are going to agree with you and back you up that obviously its over the top and hard to even watch.

Young people as a rule will act like there is nothing wrong with it. The reason for this is the young culture and especially a certain culture within the young culture are so immune to athletes and everyone else acting like idiots that they honestly don't think its an issue anymore.

This started with Ali, When you watch anything on Ali you will see that he is the one that made it ok for black athletes to express themselves. Its to the point now where anytime someone makes a play in basically any game they now act like idiots and think its ok because the are expressing themselves. Also its now acceptable to constantly get in peoples faces and talk trash, again from Ali. Team dances that make you feel like you are watching a Nova special on Africa? Not sure why that is happening. OH yeah they are expressing themselves.

For those who say they are just emotional now, bullcrap. They are not playing with more motion, they are just acting like idiots while players of yesteryear had some class.

To sum it up. Its just one more sign that black culture today and young culture in general is the dumbest thing to even come down the road, and they are happy to show you evevytime they get a chance.

STATUTORY
03-25-2014, 11:05 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: thought this dude was gonna transform into megatron and levitate right then and there :roll:

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 11:06 AM
This is what you are going to get with this thread. Older people with some dignity are going to agree with you and back you up that obviously its over the top and hard to even watch.

Young people as a rule will act like there is nothing wrong with it. The reason for this is the young culture and especially a certain culture within the young culture are so immune to athletes and everyone else acting like idiots that they honestly don't think its an issue anymore.

This started with Ali, When you watch anything on Ali you will see that he is the one that made it ok for black athletes to express themselves. Its to the point now where anytime someone makes a play in basically any game they now act like idiots and think its ok because the are expressing themselves. Also its now acceptable to constantly get in peoples faces and talk trash, again from Ali. Team dances that make you feel like you are watching a Nova special on Africa? Not sure why that is happening. OH yeah they are expressing themselves.

For those who say they are just emotional now, bullcrap. They are not playing with more motion, they are just acting like idiots while players of yesteryear had some class.

To sum it up. Its just one more sign that black culture today and young culture in general is the dumbest thing to even come down the road, and they are happy to show you evevytime they get a chance.
^^^racist old ass white man. guess that ED slows yo p*ssy game down.

stanlove1111
03-25-2014, 11:14 AM
^^^racist old ass white man. guess that ED slows yo p*ssy game down.

I love it when pointing out the truth makes you a racist. That never happens.
If there is anything in my post that is not true then point it out.

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 11:18 AM
dancing or acting with emotion = black culture and acting like an idiot
shut your old ass up :roll:

ripthekik
03-25-2014, 11:22 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 11:22 AM
That Lebron dance after the GW was awesome.

SHAQisGOAT
03-25-2014, 11:34 AM
That's why Kenyon Martin is one of my favorite players . That energy. I love when players get hype..

Have you ever played ball CavsFTW? Making a big play is probably one of the most exciting feelings in the world. (In any sport) If I caught that dunk I would be screaming

That's the thing though, like you've said 'big play'. I'm all for showing out emotion, now on "regular" plays?? That shit is just dumb, like standing there celebrating after a made 3 in the middle of the game :wtf: Again, just get your ass back on d.

kamil
03-25-2014, 11:38 AM
I don't mind it.

stanlove1111
03-25-2014, 11:40 AM
dancing or acting with emotion = black culture and acting like an idiot
shut your old ass up :roll:
They are not playing with anymore emotion then anyone ever has. They are just constantly EXPRESSING themselves by acting like morons for everyone to see.

See like I told young young people who are immuned to the foolishness won't get it. Its part of the culture they are used to. People in a ridiculous culture are the last to see it.

I would bet people with dignity like Oscar or Russell cringe when they see it, like most people with dignity do.

Can anyone post comparisons between African tribal dances and basketball team dances?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVzQqgN6mrg

Uncle Drew
03-25-2014, 11:43 AM
OP:

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/7400000/Old-Man-Yells-At-Cloud-the-simpsons-7414384-265-199.gif

Rake2204
03-25-2014, 11:45 AM
That's the thing though, like you've said 'big play'. I'm all for showing out emotion, now on "regular" plays?? That shit is just dumb, like standing there celebrating after a made 3 in the middle of the game :wtf: Again, just get your ass back on d.Yeah, I think there's a difference between spontaneous reaction and pre-planned celebration skit. I'm not as much of a fan of every player's rehearsed three point basket celebration. But when a high energy play occurs and a player lets go a little bit and just lets whatever happens happen? I oftentimes (but not always) enjoy the results.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/3492970/tyler-hansbrough-celebration-o.gif

kamil
03-25-2014, 11:45 AM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

Does anyone know what the hell he is trying to communicate with that retarded celebration?

pudman13
03-25-2014, 12:26 PM
I love it when pointing out the truth makes you a racist. That never happens.
If there is anything in my post that is not true then point it out.

This isn't a racial thing. It's a generational thing. You never would have seen Dr. J or David Thompson acting that way, and they dunked on everyone. Here's something very wrong with your post: Ali is not to blame---those guys peaked after Ali's heyday was over and they showed nothing but class on the court.

It would be interesting to trace who and at what point began and popularized the real in-your-face trash talk. Same with tattoos. The biggest trash talker of the 80s was a white guy, btw, Larry Bird.

tmacattack33
03-25-2014, 12:34 PM
Just picture in your mind for a moment... what would a Larry Bird or a Doctor J do when they made amazing plays... they quickly ran back on defense, didn't even look at the crowd most of the time let alone their opponent, and they never pounded their chest or screamed like a ****ing animal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyeXaAG-99w

This pound-your-chest-screaming-in-celebration generation of players makes me cringe. It's as cheesy and dramatic as watching reality tv competitors get all worked up on survivor. Unless the trend gets even more extreme in the future (which I just can't see happening) this era is going to be looked at in the future as one of the corniest softest era's in history with all the chest pounding, mean mugging, and ticy tac foul flopping despite the historically all-time low level of physicality. Good Christ that was an uncontested putback during the middle of a regular season game, calm the **** down Taj and get back on defense, it is your job to go for rebounds like that not a feat that required the energy output of a Super Saiyan.

F that. That sh*t would be boring as ***, to see players just make great plays and not give a f about it as if they were robots.

Chicago has no Rose and has no hope to win the title, but they are still pretty entertaining to watch due to their high energy, and players like Noah who don't give a fukk about being politically correct.

Also, in that Taj Gibson play that is linked, it seems (from the way the crowd was cheering as soon as the video even starts) that Chicago was on a run and was turning the whole game around. So that might have had something to do with the celebration.

Dro
03-25-2014, 12:49 PM
This is what you are going to get with this thread. Older people with some dignity are going to agree with you and back you up that obviously its over the top and hard to even watch.

Young people as a rule will act like there is nothing wrong with it. The reason for this is the young culture and especially a certain culture within the young culture are so immune to athletes and everyone else acting like idiots that they honestly don't think its an issue anymore.

This started with Ali, When you watch anything on Ali you will see that he is the one that made it ok for black athletes to express themselves. Its to the point now where anytime someone makes a play in basically any game they now act like idiots and think its ok because the are expressing themselves. Also its now acceptable to constantly get in peoples faces and talk trash, again from Ali. Team dances that make you feel like you are watching a Nova special on Africa? Not sure why that is happening. OH yeah they are expressing themselves.

For those who say they are just emotional now, bullcrap. They are not playing with more motion, they are just acting like idiots while players of yesteryear had some class.

To sum it up. Its just one more sign that black culture today and young culture in general is the dumbest thing to even come down the road, and they are happy to show you evevytime they get a chance.
I agree with your premise but race has nothing to do with it. But anyway.

There are exceptions to me. Does a guy play with a chip on his shoulder like Westbrook and Noah? I like those celebrations. However you need to get out past frustrations/letdowns is fine with me. I don't like excessive celebration. Ill give you an example from my own team. I don't mind Lance's celebrations. I don't like Paul George's celebrating. Lance is putting pressure on the other teams, really making them work on defense and he's running the offense. He also plays with a chip on his shoulder because he is just now getting his shot to play. Paul George has been annointed as the franchise guy but doesn't consistently play like one who he irritates me when celebrates after he hits a 3..Well no sh*t PG, you shoot like 7 per game, you should be hitting 3-4 per game.

That Taj Gibson celebration, I didn't even mind even though it was against my team because if you watched that game, you saw how much emotion was involved. It was like a playoff game. Also you have to know the context. The Pacers had started to make run, Lance made a few plays and started talking and trying to get the Pacers back into the game because they looked lackluster all night. The previous play before Taj's dunk, the Pacers had all the momentum and PG got a steal and Kirk ripped the ball right out of his hands on the weak, Eurostep attempt by PG, and the Bulls ran down to the other end and this play happened while PG was still bitching at the other end. Also, Taj was having a great game, almost seemed like a career game where he couldn't be stopped. So you have to put things in context before just putting them out there like that...

In general, I agree with the OP and I'm not even as old as him but I'm 34 so Im older than most of these young dudes who grew up in this "me first, no respect for history" generation. I'm like right in the middle where I can appreciate both sides. But somebody like Nick Young irks me. He celebrates after going 2-7 and he finally makes a shot.

The Lebron thing, I don't really mind even though it is kind've corny. I wish he had a better celebration honestly.

:Edit

Dro
03-25-2014, 12:51 PM
Does anyone know what the hell he is trying to communicate with that retarded celebration?
Prometheus explained it on page 3


As for LeBron's celebration, I admit it's pretty corny, but he does it on purpose any time he hits a game-winner in an opposing building. The hands pushing down are supposed to be the opposite of raising the roof, like he's sucking the air out of the building. It looks forced most of the time, but at least it makes sense, and now that he's accumulated a bunch of them, it sort of puts a signature on his game-winners, makes them more memorable, and therefore helps a little to dispel the lingering myth that he is not clutch

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 12:54 PM
these old fvcks with this "new generation is bad" bullshit is just sad :lol

Dro
03-25-2014, 12:57 PM
these old fvcks with this "new generation is bad" bullshit is just sad :lol
You really shouldn't take everything so personal. The fact that you quote every comment when nobody has said your name in this entire thread kind've shows your insecurity. If you like players celebrating the entire game, embrace that. Why are you so offended if you're secure in how you feel?

Droid101
03-25-2014, 12:58 PM
these old fvcks with this "new generation is bad" bullshit is just sad :lol
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4O2KsGkx0GM/UzBONQRzJhI/AAAAAAAAnwQ/VyAXq4UjyoA/w377-h283-no/blank.jpg

stanlove1111
03-25-2014, 12:59 PM
This isn't a racial thing. It's a generational thing. You never would have seen Dr. J or David Thompson acting that way, and they dunked on everyone. Here's something very wrong with your post: Ali is not to blame---those guys peaked after Ali's heyday was over and they showed nothing but class on the court.

It would be interesting to trace who and at what point began and popularized the real in-your-face trash talk. Same with tattoos. The biggest trash talker of the 80s was a white guy, btw, Larry Bird.

I watch basketball constantly from high school to college. If you think its not a race thing I don't know what to tell. Open your eyes. You will see very few white guys or euros acting like this.

Thompson and Dr J were basically at the same time as Ali. That's not how the evolution of anything works. If you don't think Ali is known as the person that started self expression for athletes then again don't know what to tell you expect do some reading.

Larry Bird did not do a lot of talking. I watched Bird constantly and never saw him running his mouth out there. He obviously did some talking that was funny which it was intended to be but its not like someone like Payton who you could watch a game and it was non stop talking right in your opponents face which is where we are at in spots.

HoopsFanNumero1
03-25-2014, 01:00 PM
You really shouldn't take everything so personal. The fact that you quote every comment when nobody has said your name in this entire thread kind've shows your insecurity. If you like players celebrating the entire game, embrace that. Why are you so offended if you're secure in how you feel?

Weren't you constantly complaining about the Paul George hate a few weeks ago? Does that mean you're insecure?

mehyaM24
03-25-2014, 01:01 PM
op wishes he was a hippie :oldlol:

Dro
03-25-2014, 01:05 PM
I watch basketball constantly from high school to college. If you think its not a race thing I don't know what to tell. Open your eyes. You will see very few white guys or euros acting like this.

Thompson and Dr J were basically at the same time as Ali. That's not how the evolution of anything works. If you don't think Ali is known as the person that started self expression for athletes then again don't know what to tell you expect do some reading.

Larry Bird did not do a lot of talking. I watched Bird constantly and never saw him running his mouth out there. He obviously did some talking that was funny which it was intended to be but its not like someone like Payton who you could watch a game and it was non stop talking right in your opponents face which is where we are at in spots.

Not sure if you're serious with the quoted. Bird himself has admitted to being a huge trash talker because he's said himself that the game is mostly mental. Also, I've seen many Celtics games and yes Bird talks trash. Anyway, the league is what 80% black? Of course you will see more black players talking trash than white players. Thats basic logic. You can say its a CULTURE thing which is not just BLACK. The culture has been adopted by people of ALL races and they ALL contribute to its downfall/reputation. Do you watch the NFL? Because there are plenty of white players who talk trash on the field. Fox sports has Bird listed #1 on the list of greatest trash talkers of all time...Take it for what its worth..But also, Larry unlike many other great white athletes, grew up broke, in a small town, had to work his ass off like many of the black players. That could contribute to his attitude. He often played with a chip on his shoulder also.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/Top-10-trash-talkers-Larry-Bird-Michael-Jordan-Reggi-e-Miller-Gary-Payton-Kevin-Garnett#photo-title=Larry+Bird&photo=31516722

Rake2204
03-25-2014, 01:07 PM
Larry Bird did not do a lot of talking. I watched Bird constantly and never saw him running his mouth out there. He obviously did some talking that was funny which it was intended to be but its not like someone like Payton who you could watch a game and it was non stop talking right in your opponents face which is where we are at in spots.I don't think Larry Bird was demonstrative like Gary Payton, but from the endless streams of accounts I've heard throughout my life, he was a very prominent trash talker, and not merely for the sake of hilarity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NIKK_OFvFY

stanlove1111
03-25-2014, 01:45 PM
Not sure if you're serious with the quoted. Bird himself has admitted to being a huge trash talker because he's said himself that the game is mostly mental. Also, I've seen many Celtics games and yes Bird talks trash. Anyway, the league is what 80% black? Of course you will see more black players talking trash than white players. Thats basic logic. You can say its a CULTURE thing which is not just BLACK. The culture has been adopted by people of ALL races and they ALL contribute to its downfall/reputation. Do you watch the NFL? Because there are plenty of white players who talk trash on the field. Fox sports has Bird listed #1 on the list of greatest trash talkers of all time...Take it for what its worth..But also, Larry unlike many other great white athletes, grew up broke, in a small town, had to work his ass off like many of the black players. That could contribute to his attitude. He often played with a chip on his shoulder also.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/lists/Top-10-trash-talkers-Larry-Bird-Michael-Jordan-Reggi-e-Miller-Gary-Payton-Kevin-Garnett#photo-title=Larry+Bird&photo=31516722


High School basketball and College basketball are not 80% black. You rarely see white players act like that. Its a race thing. Open your eyes.

You bring up one white player ( Bird ) and act like that evens things. Bill Russell admitted to talking also. There is a huge difference between what Bird and Russell did and what others do.

I saw Magic asked about Bird's talking and he said it was meant to be humerous. Not like I am talking about.

moe94
03-25-2014, 03:02 PM
I watch basketball constantly from high school to college. If you think its not a race thing I don't know what to tell. Open your eyes. You will see very few white guys or euros acting like this.

Thompson and Dr J were basically at the same time as Ali. That's not how the evolution of anything works. If you don't think Ali is known as the person that started self expression for athletes then again don't know what to tell you expect do some reading.

Larry Bird did not do a lot of talking. I watched Bird constantly and never saw him running his mouth out there. He obviously did some talking that was funny which it was intended to be but its not like someone like Payton who you could watch a game and it was non stop talking right in your opponents face which is where we are at in spots.


ay

Stop watching basketball and sports in general. In fact, don't watch entertainment period. Hell are you bitching about right now? That athletes are enjoying what they're doing? They yelled as the ball went through the hoop? Oh the humanity!

:rolleyes:

Levity
03-25-2014, 03:09 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibio53hwPhdbY9.gif

That's one more gamewinner than Wilt Chamberlain.

it looks like he was literally trying to turn super saiyan. :lol

LeGOAT
03-25-2014, 03:11 PM
Nothing wrong with being hyped and in the moment and celebrating a bit, but you're right, some players take it way to far. Noah and Gibson are just ridiculously annoying.

Demitri98
03-25-2014, 03:12 PM
goddamn, that was embarassing act like you've been there before, Taj.

LeBrons chest thumping celebration shit is stupid as hell too. looks so forced.

Durant is the best at not falling into this line of shit. Dude will murder your team down the stretch, hit the game winner, and then walk off the floor with a dead stare on his face.
He screams at Russ every once in a while when Russ pulls off some crazy feat of athleticism.

ABfor3
03-25-2014, 03:15 PM
These dudes get paid millions of dollar to do something they're very passionate about..what's wrong with a little excitement here and there..I know when I played in high school, I got adrenaline running through me whenever I made a good play.

HoopsFanNumero1
03-25-2014, 03:19 PM
All these old farts crying about black culture and how they shouldn't show emotion :lol

Not everyone needs to be like Duncan and keep a straight face the entire game. I like seeing athletes get fired up after making a great play. It pumps up the crowd and helps shift the momentum in their favor.

moe94
03-25-2014, 03:26 PM
All these old farts crying about black culture and how they shouldn't show emotion :lol

Not everyone needs to be like Duncan and keep a straight face the entire game. I like seeing athletes get fired up after making a great play. It pumps up the crowd and helps shift the momentum in their favor.

The same type who probably thought Sherm was the most vile human being of all time.

stanlove1111
03-25-2014, 06:18 PM
All these old farts crying about black culture and how they shouldn't show emotion :lol

Not everyone needs to be like Duncan and keep a straight face the entire game. I like seeing athletes get fired up after making a great play. It pumps up the crowd and helps shift the momentum in their favor.

Still doesn't get it. I am sure of young person who doesn't understand what class is.

By jumping around like a moron you are just asking for focus on YOU. Doesn't change the scoreboard its just a hay everyone look at me. Changing nothing about the game but some moron gets to EXPRESS himself one more time..Gee that never gets old.

moe94
03-25-2014, 06:20 PM
Still doesn't get it. I am sure of young person who doesn't understand what class is.

By jumping around like a moron you are just asking for focus on YOU. Doesn't change the scoreboard its just a hay everyone look at me. Changing nothing about the game but some moron gets to EXPRESS himself one more time..Gee that never gets old.

Do you have any idea what adrenaline is? Or being in the moment? You're getting mad that some dude did a putback dunk and then screamed. :oldlol:

SHAQisGOAT
03-25-2014, 09:06 PM
Larry Bird did not do a lot of talking. I watched Bird constantly and never saw him running his mouth out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NIKK_OFvFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUmz44FurLc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rg1sFMxnbM

Not sure about that one, but yea he did it in a different manner than, say, Gary Payton, I agree, not that I'm against GP or anyone doing it.
Another thing is that Bird wasn't pulling all types of shit, even acting like he just won a ring, after a made 3 in the middle of the game, shit even after some great play, or at the end.

kamil
03-25-2014, 09:26 PM
Prometheus explained it on page 3


As for LeBron's celebration, I admit it's pretty corny, but he does it on purpose any time he hits a game-winner in an opposing building. The hands pushing down are supposed to be the opposite of raising the roof, like he's sucking the air out of the building. It looks forced most of the time, but at least it makes sense, and now that he's accumulated a bunch of them, it sort of puts a signature on his game-winners, makes them more memorable, and therefore helps a little to dispel the lingering myth that he is not clutch



Thanks.

It makes perfect sense actually, lol. Too bad it looks fvcking ridiculous.

D.J.
03-25-2014, 09:36 PM
Larry Bird did not do a lot of talking. I watched Bird constantly and never saw him running his mouth out there. He obviously did some talking that was funny which it was intended to be but its not like someone like Payton who you could watch a game and it was non stop talking right in your opponents face which is where we are at in spots.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NIKK_OFvFY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6sLMupoQLQ

Jameerthefear
03-25-2014, 09:37 PM
Guys Larry Bird doesn't count he's white it's called black culture

Dro
03-25-2014, 10:40 PM
Thanks.

It makes perfect sense actually, lol. Too bad it looks fvcking ridiculous.
I agree....

Just2McFly
03-25-2014, 11:57 PM
just because you do a soul killing job in the meaningless pursuit of money doesnt mean that others who are more passionate and alive than you are being "dramatic".

That's exactly what being in the moment and living it up is.

Rose'sACL
03-26-2014, 12:01 AM
the idea that today's players should play exactly like greats of past eras is such BS.

ProfessorMurder
03-26-2014, 01:03 AM
Celebrating, taunting and trash talking are fine... We need more of that.

Complaining and flopping are what needs to go.

tomtucker
03-26-2014, 04:48 AM
And after reading your post again, you really do just seem like a bitter old man CavaliersFTW lol

who wouldn't be ?......... being a cavs fan

stanlove1111
03-26-2014, 10:52 AM
Do you have any idea what adrenaline is? Or being in the moment? You're getting mad that some dude did a putback dunk and then screamed. :oldlol:

So players in the past didn't play with adrenaline because they didn't jump up and down like morons everytime they got a dunk. I guess adrenaline is a new thing. I guess Duncan doesn't play with adrenaline because he doesn't act like his IQ is really low in front of the cameras every time he gets a dunk.

Like I said young people won't get it. They are surrounded by this dumb culture and can't see past it.


I am not getting mad. I am calling it what it is. Someone acting like a wild animal because they scored 2 points. Simple as that. You know expressing themselves once again.

3peated
03-26-2014, 10:54 AM
yeah **** these guys for showing emotion.

stanlove1111
03-26-2014, 10:56 AM
Celebrating, taunting and trash talking are fine... We need more of that.

Complaining and flopping are what needs to go.


Yeah taunting and trash talking are something we need more of..Idiot.

stanlove1111
03-26-2014, 11:00 AM
These dudes get paid millions of dollar to do something they're very passionate about..what's wrong with a little excitement here and there..I know when I played in high school, I got adrenaline running through me whenever I made a good play.

So of course you started jumping up and down like an animal if front of everyone..

I know when I played and got alittle extra adrenaline I would play just a bit harder on defense.

boozehound
03-26-2014, 11:02 AM
Probably been mentioned, but did anyone else think the overly-dramatic title of this thread (would it kill) kinda kills the message?

3peated
03-26-2014, 11:04 AM
Yeah taunting and trash talking are something we need more of..Idiot.


basketball was really physical in birds era and before, you should check out some highlights, that to most people was the golden age too, so, yeah, trash talking and taunting is a huge part of any sport.

larry bird was very professional off the court, too.

Bibby4Three
03-26-2014, 11:08 AM
Less dramatic????

Cue NFL Wide Receivers. :coleman:

HoopsFanNumero1
03-26-2014, 11:22 AM
So players in the past didn't play with adrenaline because they didn't jump up and down like morons everytime they got a dunk. I guess adrenaline is a new thing. I guess Duncan doesn't play with adrenaline because he doesn't act like his IQ is really low in front of the cameras every time he gets a dunk.

Like I said young people won't get it. They are surrounded by this dumb culture and can't see past it.


There's no arguing with you. You're just another one of those racist "back in my days" old farts. Your only retaliation is constantly repeating "dumb black culture. hurr durr".

I already explained not everybody needs to be like Duncan. And it's silly to expect them to be. Parker plays on the same team and he gets hyped up after momentum-shifting plays. Is he part of the dumb black culture too? :rolleyes:



I am not getting mad. I am calling it what it is. Someone acting like a wild animal because they scored 2 points. Simple as that. You know expressing themselves once again.

You're acting like NBA player start dancing every time they scored two points...

CavaliersFTW
03-26-2014, 03:09 PM
http://giant.gfycat.com/InnocentOddballBeaver.gif

last night :facepalm

Rake2204
03-26-2014, 03:16 PM
http://giant.gfycat.com/InnocentOddballBeaver.gif

last night :facepalmHa, that's embarrassing. I am typically not a fan of Nick Young's swagger, so to speak. I don't tend to put all forms of emotion under the same umbrella in that regard. He's a little much for me.

That said, I didn't mind when Gilbert Arenas pulled it off. Perhaps hypocritical, or maybe it just works when a player has the skills to back it up.

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view2/4622071/gilbert-arenas-game-winner-o.gif

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3475098/larry-bird-3pt-88-o.gif

http://media.giphy.com/media/n95G0OyGCJr1u/giphy.gif

Dro
03-26-2014, 03:33 PM
http://giant.gfycat.com/InnocentOddballBeaver.gif

last night :facepalm
I don't have much problem with this...Its the end of the quarter and he thought the shot was going down and it did look like it was in...As soon as he realized it, he looked for his man on defense...I have no problem with him celebrating after a end of the quarter shot but then again, wasn't that game a blowout? I don't see why he'd get excited over a buzzer beater in a blowout...:confusedshrug: Thats my only issue with it...

brooklynsfinest
03-26-2014, 03:41 PM
Like the Raptors, the biggest bunch of loppers in NBA history.

SHAQisGOAT
03-26-2014, 04:24 PM
http://giant.gfycat.com/InnocentOddballBeaver.gif

last night :facepalm

:roll: Swaggy P :bowdown:





http://media.giphy.com/media/n95G0OyGCJr1u/giphy.gif


:lol

ProfessorMurder
03-26-2014, 07:46 PM
Yeah taunting and trash talking are something we need more of..Idiot.

I want finger wags, and people yelling. I don't want complaining and being flopping bitches.