PDA

View Full Version : Tim Duncan... What a monster



PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:09 PM
Almost 38 years old and he's still putting up 15 and 10 in under 30 minutes on the best team record wise in the NBA. The guy is a basketball god. It's going to suck when this man is no longer a part of this league.

PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:15 PM
This man's longevity and consistency are stunning, as is his professionalism. Really a beautiful thing to witness when you see the Wades of the worlds out there.

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:16 PM
Hopefully Timmy won't miss a layup in the waning moments of game seven of the Finals this year.

DonDadda59
03-26-2014, 11:19 PM
Hopefully Timmy won't miss a layup in the waning moments of game seven of the Finals this year.

Aren't you the guy who writes essays defending Wilt Chamberlain of all people? :oldlol:

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:20 PM
Aren't you the guy who writes essays defending Wilt Chamberlain of all people? :oldlol:

Yep. Both he and Duncan were/are "chokers."

Jameerthefear
03-26-2014, 11:21 PM
Hopefully Timmy won't miss a layup in the waning moments of game seven of the Finals this year.
Yeah. He looked like Wilt for a second there.

r0drig0lac
03-26-2014, 11:22 PM
This man's longevity and consistency are stunning, as is his professionalism. Really a beautiful thing to witness when you see the Wades of the worlds out there.
http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/lance-stephenson-dwyane-wade-smile.jpg

DonDadda59
03-26-2014, 11:22 PM
Yep. Both he and Duncan were/are "chokers."

Yet Duncan has double the rings. Go figure.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:22 PM
Yeah. He looked like Wilt for a second there.
09 with the ether

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:23 PM
Yet Duncan has double the rings. Go figure.
Brace yourself

Legends66NBA7
03-26-2014, 11:23 PM
Yet Duncan has double the rings. Go figure.

I believe LAZ was just joking around.

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:24 PM
Yet Duncan has double the rings. Go figure.

And as many seasons without winning a ring. If he doesn't win one this year, he will surpass Chamberlain. Pretty soon he will be up there with Kareem, Shaq, and Hakeem.

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:27 PM
I believe LAZ was just joking around.

Well both Wilt and Duncan have been career "chokers"...at least by ISH standards. It doesn't matter how many MVPs, or dominating post-seasons. It all comes down to one missed layup or FT.

T_L_P
03-26-2014, 11:27 PM
29/13/5/2/2 tonight as well :bowdown:

ProfessorMurder
03-26-2014, 11:28 PM
Really regret trading him in fantasy after his slow start.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:28 PM
And as many seasons without winning a ring. If he doesn't win one this year, he will surpass Chamberlain. Pretty soon he will be up there with Kareem, Shaq, and Hakeem.
This is just cringeworthy logic laz. Although Duncan has never led the league in anything in the regular season or in the postseason and no one seems to care, Wilt was at least leading the playoffs in rebounding and scoring one time.

Jameerthefear
03-26-2014, 11:29 PM
Lazeruss there is no doubt in my mind that Wilt Chamberlain is a choker. He has the label for a reason. Stop trying to group Duncan too. No one thinks Duncan is a choker. Do we really need to post Wilt's FT% in big games?

DonDadda59
03-26-2014, 11:30 PM
And as many seasons without winning a ring. If he doesn't win one this year, he will surpass Chamberlain. Pretty soon he will be up there with Kareem, Shaq, and Hakeem.

And if he was on his Wilt steez, his playoff career PPG would be 12.

8 PPG in the finals.

True Story.

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:31 PM
This is just cringeworthy logic laz. Although Duncan has never led the league in anything in the regular season or in the postseason and no one seems to care, Wilt was at least leading the playoffs in rebounding and scoring one time.

Losers are losers. Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Kareem, Shaq, and Hakeem. ALL have not won rings in 12+ career seasons.

PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:31 PM
Lazeruss there is no doubt in my mind that Wilt Chamberlain is a choker. He has the label for a reason. Stop trying to group Duncan too. No one thinks Duncan is a choker. Do we really need to post Wilt's FT% in big games?

Compelling, well thought out argument. :rolleyes: This forum will instantly get 40% smarter once you are permanently gone. We await your imminent Clippersfan meltdown.

Tycriss
03-26-2014, 11:32 PM
Duncan 38y: $9.64 Million (spurs 55-16)
Kobe 36y: $30.45 Million (lakers 24-46)

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:32 PM
Losers are losers. Wilt, Duncan, Kobe, West, Oscar, Kareem, Shaq, and Hakeem. ALL have not won rings in 12+ career seasons.
I got some bad news brah...that's not the way it works.

Jameerthefear
03-26-2014, 11:33 PM
Deuce could you post Wilt's FT% in big games?

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:33 PM
Lazeruss there is no doubt in my mind that Wilt Chamberlain is a choker. He has the label for a reason. Stop trying to group Duncan too. No one thinks Duncan is a choker. Do we really need to post Wilt's FT% in big games?

How about Wilt's and Duncan's Finals game seven's FG%'s? Chamberlain shot .710 in his. Duncan has shot .400 in his.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:33 PM
Duncan 38y: $9.64 Million (spurs 55-16)
Kobe 36y: $30.45 Million (lakers 24-46)
Boiled down though?

Kobe: 5
Duncan: 4

T_L_P
03-26-2014, 11:35 PM
Boiled down though?

Kobe: 5
Duncan: 4

Hondo: 8
Kobe: 5

PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:35 PM
Boiled down though?

Kobe: 5
Duncan: 4

More brilliant analysis. What are you doing here? You should be getting paid for this.

Milbuck
03-26-2014, 11:35 PM
I bet the Wizards are kicking themselves right about now for trading him on draft night.

Tom Duncan is the future of the NBA :applause:

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:36 PM
Deuce could you post Wilt's FT% in big games?
124/331 (37.5%) in his NBA Finals career

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:36 PM
Deuce could you post Wilt's FT% in big games?

And while he is posting Wilt's Finals FT%'s, maybe he can post Kobe's Finals FG%'s, too.

Legends66NBA7
03-26-2014, 11:37 PM
Well both Wilt and Duncan have been career "chokers"...at least by ISH standards. It doesn't matter how many MVPs, or dominating post-seasons. It all comes down to one missed layup or FT.


Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.


29/13/5/2/2 tonight as well :bowdown:

I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:37 PM
Hondo: 8
Kobe: 5
Doesn't fit the bill since Hondo's not a league MVP

DonDadda59
03-26-2014, 11:38 PM
How about Wilt's and Duncan's Finals game seven's FG%'s? Chamberlain shot .710 in his. Duncan has shot .400 in his.

Wilt regular season career PPG: 30

Wilt Playoffs career PPG: 22.5

Wilt Finals career PPG: 18.8


Where were the 40-50 PPG playoffs/finals? Would've really come in handy when trying to not be a career choke artist, no? :confusedshrug:

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:39 PM
124/331 (37.5%) in his NBA Finals career


Kobe's FG%'s in his Finals...


99-00
Regular season 22.5 ppg .468 FG%
Finals 15.6 ppg .367 FG%
Last Game of Series .296 FG%

00-01
Regular season 28.5 ppg .464 FG%
Finals 24.6 ppg .415 FG%
Last Game of the series, .389 FG%

01-02
Regular season 25.2 ppg .469
Finals 26.8 ppg .514
Last Game .438 FG%

03-04
Regular season 24.0 ppg .438
Finals 22.6 ppg .381
Last Game .333

07-08
Regular season 28.3 ppg .459
Finals 25.7 ppg .405
Last game of the Finals, .318 FG%

08-09
Regular season 26.8 ppg .467
Finals 32.4 ppg .430
Last game of the Finals, .435

09-10
Regular season 27.0 ppg .456
Finals 28.6 ppg .405
Game seven of the Finals... .250 F%.


Other noteables:


97-98
Swept by Utah 4-0.
Kobe averages 10.0 ppg on a .367 FG%

98-99
Swept by San Antonio 4-0
Last game of the series : Kobe 16 points on a .438 FG%

02-03
Lose to Spurs in WCF's, 4-2.
Last game loss by a score of 110-82 (Kobe with 20 points in a season in which he averaged 30 ppg)

03-04 Finals
Heavily favored Lakers lose to Pistons, 4-1.
In the clinching game five loss Kobe shoots .333 in a 100-87 loss (and LA was down 23 going into 4th quarter)

04-05
team goes 34-48 and misses playoffs

05-06
Regular season 35.4 ppg .450
Playoffs 27.9 ppg .497
Last game (7) 24 points in a 121-90 loss (after blowing a 3-1 series lead)

06-07
Team goes 42-40
Loses in first round to Suns, 4-1.
Last game of that series, Kobe shoots .394 from the floor

07-08
Lakers are blown out by Celts in Finals.
In game four the Lakers blow a 23 point lead, and lose, in a game in which Kobe shot .316 from the field.
In the clinching game six loss, the Lakers lose by a Finals record margin of 131-92. Kobe shoots .318 from the floor.

10-11
Lakers with HCA are swept by the Mavs, 4-0.
In the clinching game four loss, LA loses 122-86. Kobe shoots .389 from the field.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:39 PM
Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.



I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.
Wait..why Karl Malone and not Wilt?

Wilt has the highest choking rating ever, guess who's #2? Karl Malone

PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:39 PM
Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.



I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

Sshhhhhhhh logic is not met with open arms around here.

Jameerthefear
03-26-2014, 11:39 PM
124/331 (37.5%) in his NBA Finals career
DAMN. I think we know the truth.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:39 PM
More brilliant analysis. What are you doing here? You should be getting paid for this.
Who are you?

T_L_P
03-26-2014, 11:39 PM
I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.

I guess people just get bored with having one player being called the greatest.

People would do the same with Jordan if there was a SG even close to him :confusedshrug:

sejoon101
03-26-2014, 11:44 PM
Aren't you the guy who writes essays defending Wilt Chamberlain of all people? :oldlol:

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/sejoon101/tumblr_mjpbrjd9sF1rphxjeo1_400.gif (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/sejoon101/media/tumblr_mjpbrjd9sF1rphxjeo1_400.gif.html)

PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:45 PM
Who are you?

I'm the guy who is able to provide comments that aren't mind numbingly stupid. Maybe someday if you decide to activate that tiny little organ in your skull you'll be one of those guys too.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:49 PM
I'm the guy who is able to provide comments that aren't mind numbingly stupid. Maybe someday if you decide to activate that tiny little organ in your skull you'll be one of those guys too.
I backed up my opinions with facts numerous times newbie.

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:50 PM
Wilt regular season career PPG: 30

Wilt Playoffs career PPG: 22.5

Wilt Finals career PPG: 18.8


Where were the 40-50 PPG playoffs/finals? Would've really come in handy when trying to not be a career choke artist, no? :confusedshrug:


How about FOUR playoff's of 33.2 ppg, 34.7 ppg, 35.0 ppg, and 37.0 ppg? How about playoff series of 37.0 ppg, 37.0 ppg, 38.6 ppg, and 38.7 ppg? How about playoff series against RUSSELL of 28-30, 29-28, 30-26, 33-26, and 30-31? Or a playoff series against RUSSELL of 22-32-10 .556? How about FOUR 50+ point playoff games, including THREE in "MUST-WIN" games (and one against RUSSELL)? Or another 46-34 "must-win" playoff game (against RUSSELL)? And a Finals "must-win" game of 45-27?

A "scoring" Wilt AVERAGED 30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, and shot .515 from the field (in post-seasons that shot .421 on average)...in his first 67 games...COMBINED. Go ahead...find me another "GOAT" who put up even ONE SERIES with a 30-27-5 .515 (shooting nearly 10% above the league average), and blocking 8+ bpg. Hell, find me a "GOAT" who had even ONE GAME with that stat-line.

And what about Chamberlain's OPPOSING CENTERS? How about Russell with FG%'s of .399, .398, .386, and even .358 against Wilt in four of their post-season series (and Chamberlain outshooting him by staggering margins in those series.) Or Wilt facing Thurmond in three playoff series, and outshooting him by margins of .500 to .392; .611 to .373, and .560 to .343? Or HOFer Bellamy shooting .541 against the NBA in '68...and being outscored and outshot by Wilt in the playoffs by a .584 to .421 margin? Or Kareem shooting .577 and .574 in the '71 and '72 regular seasons...and then .481 and .457 (and only .414 in the last four games of that series) against Wilt?

Or Wilt playing in 29 post-season series, and not being outrebounded in ANY of them? Or Wilt being outshot from the field in ONE of them, (and in that one series, Wilt missed 20 shots, while a PEAK Kareem missed 107...many blocked by an old Wilt.)

Again, Chamberlain arguably outplayed his OPPOSING CENTER in ALL of his 29 post-season series. In fact, he was the best player on the floor in the vast majority of them.

TheMilkyBarKid
03-26-2014, 11:52 PM
if only he were more of an arrogant prick, maybe then he'd get more recognition for his talent. In all seriousness I got into basketball around 2002, it's amazing he is still on e of the most impactful players.

DonDadda59
03-26-2014, 11:53 PM
^ Can you give me the boiled down version? :confusedshrug:

I ain't reading all that shit.

http://gifrific.gifrific.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Aint-Nobody-Got-Time-for-That.gif

juju151111
03-26-2014, 11:53 PM
Wilt regular season career PPG: 30

Wilt Playoffs career PPG: 22.5

Wilt Finals career PPG: 18.8


Where were the 40-50 PPG playoffs/finals? Would've really come in handy when trying to not be a career choke artist, no? :confusedshrug:
Wilt is beyond overrated is rediculous. This guy lose with HCA sometimes and his play took a dip come playoffs time. His play should become dominate come playoffs

LAZERUSS
03-26-2014, 11:54 PM
Wilt regular season career PPG: 30

Wilt Playoffs career PPG: 22.5

Wilt Finals career PPG: 18.8


Where were the 40-50 PPG playoffs/finals? Would've really come in handy when trying to not be a career choke artist, no? :confusedshrug:


BTW, how about this from the "choking" Wilt...


The idiotic Bill Simmons claims that Wilt "shrunk" in the post-season, particularly in BIG games.

Had he actually done any real research into Wilt's post-season career, he would have found that Wilt averaged 27.0 ppg in his 35 "must-win" and/or clinching games. Meanwhile, his starting opposing centers averaged 14.5 ppg in those 35 games. He also outscored his opposing starting center in 29 of those 35 games, including a 19-0 edge in his first 19 games of those 35. Furthermore, in his 13 games which came in his "scoring" seasons (from 59-60 thru 65-66), Chamberlain averaged 37.3 ppg in those "do-or-die" or clinching games. And there were MANY games in which he just CRUSHED his opposing centers in those games (e.g. he outscored Kerr in one them, 53-7.)

Wilt had THREE of his four 50+ point post-season games, in these "elimination games", including two in "at the limit" games, and another against Russell in a "must-win" game. He also had games of 46-34 and 45-27 (and only 4 months removed from major knee surgery) in these types of games. In addition he had games of 39 and 38 in clinching wins.

In the known 19 games in which we have both Wilt's, and his starting opposing center's rebounding numbers, Chamberlain outrebounded them in 15 of them, and by an average margin of 26.1 rpg to 18.9 rpg. And, had we had all 35 of the totals, it would have been by a considerably larger margin. A conservative estimate would put Wilt with at least a 30-5 overall edge in those 35 games. He also had games, even against the likes of Russell, and in "must-win" situations, where he just MURDERED his opposing centers (e.g. he had one clinching game, against Russell, in which he outrebounded him by a 36-21 margin.)

And finally, in the known FG% games in which we have, Chamberlain not only shot an eye-popping .582 in those "do-or-die" games, but he held his opposing centers to a combined .413 FG%. BTW, he played against Kareem in two "clinching" games, and held Abdul-Jabbar to a combined .383 shooting in those two games (23-60), while Chamberlain, himself, shot .545 (18-33.)

The bottom line, in the known games of the 35 that Wilt played in that involved a "must-win" or clincher, Wilt averaged 27 ppg, 26.1 rpg, and shot .582 (and the 27 ppg figure was known for all 35 of those games.)

And once again, Chamberlain played in 11 games which went to the series limit (nine game seven's, one game five of a best-of-five series, and one game three of a best-of-three series), and all he did was average 29.9 ppg (outscoring his opposing center by a 29.9 ppg to 9.8 ppg margin in the process), with 26.7 rpg, and on .581 shooting. Or he was an eye-lash away from averaging a 30-27 game, and on nearly .600 shooting, in those 11 "at the limit" games.


Oh, and BTW, Chamberlain's TEAMs went 24-11 in those 35 games, too.

That was the same player that Simmons basically labeled a "loser", and a "choker", and who "shrunk" in his BIG games.

Deuce Bigalow
03-26-2014, 11:54 PM
How about FOUR playoff's of 33.2 ppg, 34.7 ppg, 35.0 ppg, and 37.0 ppg? How about playoff series of 37.0 ppg, 37.0 ppg, 38.6 ppg, and 38.7 ppg? How about playoff series against RUSSELL of 28-30, 29-28, 30-26, 33-26, and 30-31? Or a playoff series against RUSSELL of 22-32-10 .556? How about FOUR 50+ point playoff games, including THREE in "MUST-WIN" games (and one against RUSSELL)? Or another 46-34 "must-win" playoff game (against RUSSELL)? And a Finals "must-win" game of 45-27?

A "scoring" Wilt AVERAGED 30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, and shot .515 from the field (in post-seasons that shot .421 on average)...in his first 67 games...COMBINED. Go ahead...find me another "GOAT" who put up even ONE SERIES with a 30-27-5 .515 (shooting nearly 10% above the league average), and blocking 8+ bpg. Hell, find me a "GOAT" who had even ONE GAME with that stat-line.

And what about Chamberlain's OPPOSING CENTERS? How about Russell with FG%'s of .399, .398, .386, and even .358 against Wilt in four of their post-season series (and Chamberlain outshooting him by staggering margins in those series.) Or Wilt facing Thurmond in three playoff series, and outshooting him by margins of .500 to .392; .611 to .373, and .560 to .343? Or HOFer Bellamy shooting .541 against the NBA in '68...and being outscored and outshot by Wilt in the playoffs by a .584 to .421 margin? Or Kareem shooting .577 and .574 in the '71 and '72 regular seasons...and then .481 and .457 (and only .414 in the last four games of that series) against Wilt?

Or Wilt playing in 29 post-season series, and not being outrebounded in ANY of them? Or Wilt being outshot from the field in ONE of them, (and in that one series, Wilt missed 20 shots, while a PEAK Kareem missed 107...many blocked by an old Wilt.)

Again, Chamberlain arguably outplayed his OPPOSING CENTER in ALL of his 29 post-season series. In fact, he was the best player on the floor in the vast majority of them.
No ones gonna care about 33 ppg in the playoffs when you averaging 40-50 ppg in the regular season.

Wilt's scoring prime from '60-'66

Regular season: 39.6 ppg
Playoffs: 32.8 ppg
Finals: 29.4 ppg

Regular season scoring leader: 7x
Playoff scoring leader: 1x

His ppg dropped every year from the regular season to the playoffs, and even in his lone Finals in '64 his ppg dropped by more than 7 ppg compared to the '64 regular season.

I'm not even bringing up FT% right now...

PieceOfFelt
03-26-2014, 11:58 PM
I backed up my opinions with facts numerous times newbie.

You back your odd opinions with nothing but trolling because that is unfortunately all you are.... a troll. You subscribe to the JameerTheFeer style of posting which is to post incessantly in the most idiotic way. You do succeed in instantly bringing down the quality of each thread you enter. It's as if you are the ebola virius. You infect the host and cause it to bleed out of every orifice until it withers away and dies.

LAZERUSS
03-27-2014, 12:00 AM
Wilt is beyond overrated is rediculous. This guy lose with HCA sometimes and his play took a dip come playoffs time. His play should become dominate come playoffs

Chamberlain faced RUSSELL and the greatest dynasty in NBA history, EIGHT times in the playoffs, and most occurred in either his first, or second round.

How about MJ and the "Bad Boys?" Jordan faced the Pistons FOUR times (and the last time the Pistons were just a shell of what they had been), and his scoring and FG%'s took a CONSIDERABLE DIVE against his regular season averages.

And Shaq faced the Spurs FIVE times from '99 thru '05...and his scoring and FG%'s dropped DRAMATICALLY over the course of those series.

And how about a PEAK Kareem, who faced an old Wilt, and an aging Thurmond in FIVE playoff series between '71 and '73, and his scoring dropped by SEVEN ppg against his regular season average...and get this...his combined FG% in those five series was .450 (!)...in leagues in which he shot .563 in that span!

How come? How come these "GOATS" consistently had HUGE drops in their post-season series against their toughest rivals?

PieceOfFelt
03-27-2014, 12:02 AM
I backed up my opinions with facts numerous times newbie.

Ouch. You got me, Dr. Cox. Indeed I've been around for a measly one year while you have blessed us with your inane thoughts for an impressive three years.

Deuce Bigalow
03-27-2014, 12:03 AM
Wilt is beyond overrated is rediculous. This guy lose with HCA sometimes and his play took a dip come playoffs time. His play should become dominate come playoffs
The dude was swept with HCA by a team with a sub .500 record in '61
Two years later he leads his team to a 31-49 record
Two years later he leads his team to a 10-28 record before being traded away to a playoff team

Can't make this stuff up.

Deuce Bigalow
03-27-2014, 12:05 AM
You back your odd opinions with nothing but trolling because that is unfortunately all you are.... a troll. You subscribe to the JameerTheFeer style of posting which is to post incessantly in the most idiotic way. You do succeed in instantly bringing down the quality of each thread you enter. It's as if you are the ebola virius. You infect the host and cause it to bleed out of every orifice until it withers away and dies.
You upset?

LAZERUSS
03-27-2014, 12:09 AM
No ones gonna care about 33 ppg in the playoffs when you averaging 40-50 ppg in the regular season.

Wilt's scoring prime from '60-'66

Regular season: 39.6 ppg
Playoffs: 32.8 ppg
Finals: 29.4 ppg

Regular season scoring leader: 7x
Playoff scoring leader: 1x

His ppg dropped every year from the regular season to the playoffs, and even in his lone Finals in '64 his ppg dropped by more than 7 ppg compared to the '64 regular season.

I'm not even bringing up FT% right now...

From '60 thru '66, Chamberlain faced RUSSELL and the greatest dynasty in NBA history, FIVE times. And he battled them in his first round in one of them, and his second round in FOUR of them.

How about posting his regular season numbers against RUSSELL in that span, and then compare it with his post-season numbers? The "drop" is minute, and in some cases, it was elevated.

For example, in his 8 regular season H2H's with Russell in the 63-64 season, Chamberlain averaged 29.1 ppg, 26.9 rpg, and shot .530 from the field. In the '64 Finals... 29.2 ppg, 27.8 rpg, and a .517 FG% (while holding Russell to 11.2 ppg, 25.2 rpg, and a .386 FG%.)

Or how about in his '64-65 regular season against Russell, covering nine H2H games, when Wilt averaged 25.3 ppg on a .473 FG%. Against Russell in the '65 EDF's... 30.1 ppg on a .555 FG% (to go along with 31.4 rpg.)

Even in his 61-62 season, when he averaged 50.4 ppg on a .506 FG%...in his 10 regular season H2H's against Russell, he "only" averaged 39.6 ppg on a .471 FG%...in a regular season NBA that averaged 118.8 ppg on a league eFG% of .426. In the '62 seven game series against the 60-20 Celtics, Wilt averaged 33.6 ppg on a .468 FG%...in a post-season NBA that averaged 112.6 ppog on a .411 eFG%.

LAZERUSS
03-27-2014, 12:12 AM
Come on LAZ, logcailly they aren't obviously "chokers". Karl Malone is someone you can apply the choker label too. Not Duncan or Wilt.



I just don't see how people think there's a case for GOAT PF over Duncan. Or people thinking David Robinson was a better player. Duncan has it all, stats, accolades, impact, and longevity.

Top that for being the best professional of the 2000-present of basketball.


BTW, I agree 100% with you.

I was being facetious with BOTH Duncan and Wilt. Two of the greatest post-season players of all-time.

dgaras
03-27-2014, 12:26 AM
lmao @ comparing wilt to duncan

wilt is a choke artist playing in the 2nd weakest era after the pre 60s

duncan defeated some of the best teams to ever play in the nba. ever

and he always steps it up

go figure. whos a choke artist? the guy getting paid millions with titles and awards or the guy that has 4k posts on a message board under a year, living with his parents. arguably. if not living with parents probably still a single virgin :roll:

LAZERUSS
03-27-2014, 12:27 AM
Almost 38 years old and he's still putting up 15 and 10 in under 30 minutes on the best team record wise in the NBA. The guy is a basketball god. It's going to suck when this man is no longer a part of this league.

BTW, sorry to derail your thread.

Timmy at age 37 has been truly remarkable. Hell, the Spurs with the core of their roster all aging, and with a bunch of retreads, have just been amazing.

I am a near life-long Laker fan, but I would absolutely love to see the Spurs (and Duncan and Pop) win it all this year.

The best run and best coached franchise, by a mile, in the NBA.

PieceOfFelt
03-27-2014, 12:30 AM
BTW, sorry to derail your thread.

Timmy at age 37 has been truly remarkable. Hell, the Spurs with the core of their roster all aging, and with a bunch of retreads, have just been amazing.

I am a near life-long Laker fan, but I would absolutely love to see the Spurs (and Duncan and Pop) win it all this year.

The best run and best coached franchise, by a mile, in the NBA.

No worries. You're a good poster who backs his opinions up with facts. JameerTheQueer and that other guy are what we call trolls, people who serve no purpose but to annoy.

Psileas
03-27-2014, 09:42 AM
lmao @ comparing wilt to duncan

wilt is a choke artist playing in the 2nd weakest era after the pre 60s

duncan defeated some of the best teams to ever play in the nba. ever

and he always steps it up

go figure. whos a choke artist? the guy getting paid millions with titles and awards or the guy that has 4k posts on a message board under a year, living with his parents. arguably. if not living with parents probably still a single virgin :roll:

How ironic, Mr Keyboard Warrior. Next time, you try to do something more with your life before thinking about talking crap about an all-time great athlete.

SCdac
03-27-2014, 10:43 AM
Praise Duncan :bowdown:

dr.hee
03-27-2014, 10:52 AM
Praise Duncan :bowdown:

:applause:

inclinerator
03-27-2014, 02:14 PM
u know it's a duncan thread when ppl start talking about other players instead of duncan :lol

ArbitraryWater
03-27-2014, 03:27 PM
u know it's a duncan thread when ppl start talking about other players instead of duncan :lol

wut :wtf:

that makes no sense brah... go on another topic, i dont know, titled "kobe's greatness", then make that some post :lol

wait, doesnt apply? why? because it aint a duncan thread..


MIND****

ArbitraryWater
03-27-2014, 03:27 PM
From '60 thru '66, Chamberlain faced RUSSELL and the greatest dynasty in NBA history, FIVE times. And he battled them in his first round in one of them, and his second round in FOUR of them.

How about posting his regular season numbers against RUSSELL in that span, and then compare it with his post-season numbers? The "drop" is minute, and in some cases, it was elevated.

For example, in his 8 regular season H2H's with Russell in the 63-64 season, Chamberlain averaged 29.1 ppg, 26.9 rpg, and shot .530 from the field. In the '64 Finals... 29.2 ppg, 27.8 rpg, and a .517 FG% (while holding Russell to 11.2 ppg, 25.2 rpg, and a .386 FG%.)

Or how about in his '64-65 regular season against Russell, covering nine H2H games, when Wilt averaged 25.3 ppg on a .473 FG%. Against Russell in the '65 EDF's... 30.1 ppg on a .555 FG% (to go along with 31.4 rpg.)

Even in his 61-62 season, when he averaged 50.4 ppg on a .506 FG%...in his 10 regular season H2H's against Russell, he "only" averaged 39.6 ppg on a .471 FG%...in a regular season NBA that averaged 118.8 ppg on a league eFG% of .426. In the '62 seven game series against the 60-20 Celtics, Wilt averaged 33.6 ppg on a .468 FG%...in a post-season NBA that averaged 112.6 ppog on a .411 eFG%.


Too much to read...

Can someone boil it down for me? Preferably Deuce?

Boil it down please

MrC1991
03-27-2014, 03:47 PM
Duncan is by far my favorite player who doesn't wear a Bulls jersey. The GOAT PF and ultimate leader. It's going to suck when he retires.

Deuce Bigalow
03-27-2014, 03:57 PM
Too much to read...

Can someone boil it down for me? Preferably Deuce?

Boil it down please
Boiled down Wilt is a known choker. Is that boiled down enough?

inclinerator
03-27-2014, 04:11 PM
wut :wtf:

that makes no sense brah... go on another topic, i dont know, titled "kobe's greatness", then make that some post :lol

wait, doesnt apply? why? because it aint a duncan thread..


MIND****
exactly

WallIn
03-27-2014, 04:12 PM
:applause:

r0drig0lac
03-27-2014, 04:45 PM
timmay :bowdown: