LeBron gets 15 FT's, complains about the officials after the game.

[russwest0]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24502310/bosh-on-pacers-tactics-our-guys-are-getting-punched-in-the-face

Anyone think maybe this is why he doesn't get as many FT's as you want?

The fact that he flops all over the floor and has the balls to often call out the officials for not giving him enough calls? Dude got FIFTEEN FT's and still spent most of the post game whining about the refs when the Heat clearly got the better end of the officiating tonight.

Also


His face happened to hit my elbow

:lol

Serious question: Is there a bigger complainer (or excuse maker) in the league than LeBron?

[The-Legend-24]

Fvcking clown, where the fvck is Artest when u need him?

[TMT]

I understand complaining about a call every once in a while, but this is getting ridiculous. It's getting to a point where every time something goes wrong Lebron is staring at the refs for not bailing him out. That one play in the third quarter I believe, Lebron comes off a screen, slips with no contact and loses the ball, immediately he's glaring at the referee looking for a foul. I just straight facepalmed.

I understand that every player does it to some extent, and the officiating wasn't exactly great tonight, but c'mon Lebron.

The elbow to Hibbert wasn't intentional.

[JT123]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24502310/bosh-on-pacers-tactics-our-guys-are-getting-punched-in-the-face

Anyone think maybe this is why he doesn't get as many FT's as you want?

The fact that he flops all over the floor and has the balls to often call out the officials for not giving him enough calls? Dude got FIFTEEN FT's and still spent most of the post game whining about the refs when the Heat clearly got the better end of the officiating tonight.

Also



:lol

Serious question: Is there a bigger complainer (or excuse maker) in the league than LeBron?
Yes, his name is Kevin Durant. Durant leads the league in free throw attempts, yet also leads the league in technicals because he is complaining to the refs non stop begging for even more calls! :biggums: :facepalm

[LongLiveTheKing]

I understand complaining about a call every once in a while, but this is getting ridiculous. It's getting to a point where every time something goes wrong Lebron is staring at the refs for not bailing him out. That one play in the third quarter I believe, Lebron comes off a screen, slips with no contact and loses the ball, immediately he's glaring at the referee looking for a foul. I just straight facepalmed.

I understand that every player does it to some extent, and the officiating wasn't exactly great tonight, but c'mon Lebron.

The elbow to Hibbert wasn't intentional.
The ref got in LeBron's way on that play and hit him.

[JT123]

I understand complaining about a call every once in a while, but this is getting ridiculous. It's getting to a point where every time something goes wrong Lebron is staring at the refs for not bailing him out. That one play in the third quarter I believe, Lebron comes off a screen, slips with no contact and loses the ball, immediately he's glaring at the referee looking for a foul. I just straight facepalmed.

I understand that every player does it to some extent, and the officiating wasn't exactly great tonight, but c'mon Lebron.

The elbow to Hibbert wasn't intentional.
You clearly weren't paying attention to this game. Lebron fell because he tripped over the ref who had gotten too close to him! :facepalm Van Gundy even said that he didn't think he had ever seen a ref do that before.

[russwest0]

Yes, his name is Kevin Durant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAApipqzEyo

:oldlol: Sit down ****ing clown. Can't imagine LeBron in that same situation. Dude would have ripped the officials apart to the media.

[LongLiveTheKing]

I made a basketball play," said James, who had 38 points on 11-for-19 shooting, eight rebounds and five assists. "If I could jump in the air and elbow somebody in the face in the air and still try to finish a play, I must be a Kung Fu master or something. I mean, his face happened to hit my elbow or my elbow happened to hit his face. I mean, that's crazy.
Lebron speaking the truth. #NotAKungFuMaster

[Keno]

I understand complaining about a call every once in a while, but this is getting ridiculous. It's getting to a point where every time something goes wrong Lebron is staring at the refs for not bailing him out. That one play in the third quarter I believe, Lebron comes off a screen, slips with no contact and loses the ball, immediately he's glaring at the referee looking for a foul. I just straight facepalmed.

I understand that every player does it to some extent, and the officiating wasn't exactly great tonight, but c'mon Lebron.

The elbow to Hibbert wasn't intentional.

.....

he tripped over the refs foot and looked at the ref like get out of the way nikka, even van gundy said the same thing who was ten feet away from him.

[Smook A.]

This ugly son of a b*tch, so-called GOAT whines all the time about the stupidest shit. Makes himself look like a fcking baby.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

[VIntageNOvel]

This ugly son of a b*tch, so-called GOAT whines all the time about the stupidest shit. Makes himself look like a fcking baby.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

this post right here is why you're the best rockets fans along with exlax

[TMT]

You clearly weren't paying attention to this game. Lebron fell because he tripped over the ref who had gotten too close to him! :facepalm Van Gundy even said that he didn't think he had ever seen a ref do that before.

I'd need to see a replay. I had the sound off so I definitely see how I could have missed that.

Regardless though, everything else I said stands pat. Lebron is definitely one of the biggest complainers in the game whenever things aren't going his way. He even talked the refs into reviewing the Scola foul because he claimed it was a flagrant. C'mon man.

[Mr. Incredible]

OP loves LeBron.

[russwest0]

This ugly son of a b*tch, so-called GOAT whines all the time about the stupidest shit. Makes himself look like a fcking baby.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

This was when he got a technical foul called on him and then they reversed it. Should have just gave him another technical for even more whining tbh.

[Mr. Incredible]

This was when he got a technical foul called on him and then they reversed it. Should have just gave him another technical for even more whining tbh.
I'm tired of being right. :sleeping

[JT123]

I'd need to see a replay. I had the sound off so I definitely see how I could have missed that.

Regardless though, everything else I said stands pat. Lebron is definitely one of the biggest complainers in the game whenever things aren't going his way. He even talked the refs into reviewing the Scola foul because he claimed it was a flagrant. C'mon man.
If Scola had done that to anyone else it would have been called a flagrant, and you know that is the truth. Scola hit him in the face and made no attempt on the ball. How is that not a flagrant, especially when accidental elbows were being called flagrant? :biggums:

[JT123]

This ugly son of a b*tch, so-called GOAT whines all the time about the stupidest shit. Makes himself look like a fcking baby.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif
And you crying about everything Lebron does makes you so much better. :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Rose'sACL]

I'd need to see a replay. I had the sound off so I definitely see how I could have missed that.

Regardless though, everything else I said stands pat. Lebron is definitely one of the biggest complainers in the game whenever things aren't going his way. He even talked the refs into reviewing the Scola foul because he claimed it was a flagrant. C'mon man.
elbow on hibbert was called a normal offensive foul and then all of a sudden they reviewed it. what do you have to say that? they upgraded it to flagrant a minute after the play so they could review it because hibbert was on the floor. There was no flagrant there as it was a basketball play. Offensive foul was the right call.


If Scola had done that to anyone else it would have been called a flagrant, and you know that is the truth. Scola hit him in the face and made no attempt on the ball. How is that not a flagrant, especially when accidental elbows were being called flagrant? :biggums:
This. i don't mind it not being called a flagrant but scola was not making a play for the ball while lebron was trying to score against hibbert.

[Mr. Incredible]

I'd need to see a replay. I had the sound off so I definitely see how I could have missed that.

Regardless though, everything else I said stands pat. Lebron is definitely one of the biggest complainers in the game whenever things aren't going his way. He even talked the refs into reviewing the Scola foul because he claimed it was a flagrant. C'mon man.
You complain more than LeBron.

[TMT]

If Scola had done that to anyone else it would have been called a flagrant, and you know that is the truth. Scola hit him in the face and made no attempt on the ball. How is that not a flagrant, especially when accidental elbows were being called flagrant? :biggums:

Obviously Scola's peak vertical isn't a match for Lebron's vertical. You see Scola take a swat in the direction of the ball, miss, and hit Lebron. It was a play on the ball. Just like the Mahinmi foul was a play on the ball. So damn dramatic. :rolleyes:

[russwest0]

You complain more than LeBron.

quoting posts and complaining that people are calling LeBron on his bitch ways?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/whining.jpg

Keep whining bitch

[Smook A.]

this post right here is why you're the best rockets fans along with exlax
http://31.media.tumblr.com/01bd89810d8df0f42dd7b683d50729ff/tumblr_n2quqv0gPl1sdty8jo1_500.gif

[JT123]

Obviously Scola's peak vertical isn't a match for Lebron's vertical. You see Scola take a swat in the direction of the ball, miss, and hit Lebron. It was a play on the ball. Just like the Mahinmi foul was a play on the ball. So damn dramatic. :rolleyes:
Now you are just trolling. :roll:
I guess grabbing a player going full speed around his neck is a play on the ball now. :facepalm :biggums:
Besides, flagrants aren't about intent, they are about damage.

[TMT]

elbow on hibbert was called a normal offensive foul and then all of a sudden they reviewed it. what do you have to say that? they upgraded it to flagrant a minute after the play so they could review it because hibbert was on the floor. There was no flagrant there as it was a basketball play. Offensive foul was the right call.

I don't get what you're point is here. I posted earlier in this thread that the elbow was in no way intentional and it was the wrong call. If anything Hibbert practically looking like a concussed ragdoll after the play is what lead to the flagrant decision. But what exactly does this have to do about Lebron complaining for calls?

[Mr. Incredible]

quoting posts and complaining that people are calling LeBron on his bitch ways?

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/whining.jpg

Keep whining bitch
Aww. Someone is insecure. :lol

I'd look in the mirror first, son.

[Killbot]

Fvcking clown, where the fvck is Artest when u need him?

Fox Sports Live

[russwest0]

I don't get what you're point is here. I posted earlier in this thread that the elbow was in no way intentional and it was the wrong call. If anything Hibbert practically looking like a concussed ragdoll after the play is what lead to the flagrant decision. But what exactly does this have to do about Lebron complaining for calls?

It's the crutch of the LeBron stan in debates:

http://fallacyaday.com/images/49.%20Red%20Herring.png

[BlazerRed]

I understand complaining about a call every once in a while, but this is getting ridiculous. It's getting to a point where every time something goes wrong Lebron is staring at the refs for not bailing him out. That one play in the third quarter I believe, Lebron comes off a screen, slips with no contact and loses the ball, immediately he's glaring at the referee looking for a foul. I just straight facepalmed.

I understand that every player does it to some extent, and the officiating wasn't exactly great tonight, but c'mon Lebron.

The elbow to Hibbert wasn't intentional.
:applause:

[BlazerRed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAApipqzEyo

:oldlol: Sit down ****ing clown. Can't imagine LeBron in that same situation. Dude would have ripped the officials apart to the media.
Truly an amazing ambassador for spots :bowdown:

[aj1987]

Is this dude for real?
KD from the '12 ASG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVd6K4SIxHI

I will try to find the 3-4 times he cried about fouls from this years ASG. Dude is a KD stan and calls out other players for whining? :biggums:

[TMT]

Now you are just trolling. :roll:
I guess grabbing a player going full speed around his neck is a play on the ball now. :facepalm :biggums:
Besides, flagrants aren't about intent, they are about damage.

He wrapped his arms around him low attempting to aim for the ball. One of his arms reached around his neck and pulled him down. Lebron then attempted to make the play look worse by propelling himself forward out of bounds and making the play look more dramatic.

If you are seemingly attempting to make a play on the ball in any way it shouldn't be a flagrant. But of course Lebron definitely tried to sell it as one.

[BlazerRed]

Is this dude for real?
KD from the '12 ASG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVd6K4SIxHI

I will try to find the 3-4 times he cried about fouls from this years ASG. Dude is a KD stan and calls out other players for whining? :biggums:
A guy called "IlovetittiesTV" making a video about a guy swearing on TV...

:facepalm

[Smook A.]

Is this dude for real?
KD from the '12 ASG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVd6K4SIxHI

I will try to find the 3-4 times he cried about fouls from this years ASG. Dude is a KD stan and calls out other players for whining? :biggums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqczYoYgR98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVut91O1m08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsX3pjLClfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxloTgaBaUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naFCXrKcu7s

[aj1987]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqczYoYgR98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVut91O1m08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsX3pjLClfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxloTgaBaUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naFCXrKcu7s
Find a post where I said LeBron doesn't whine? ****ing retards. :facepalm

[russwest0]

:oldlol: AJ is like that closet gay dude that's obsessed with homophobia.

Time to cross over to the KD stan side, bro. You'll finally be able to feel at ease.

[aj1987]

:oldlol: AJ is like that closet gay dude that's obsessed with homophobia.

Time to cross over to the KD stan side, bro. You'll finally be able to feel at ease.
What the **** are you even talking about? I swear, KD stans have the combined IQ of a rock.

[russwest0]

What the **** are you even talking about? I swear, KD stans have the combined IQ of a rock.

Says the guy that literally said LeBron would average 35 PPG with 3 more FTA per game :lol :lol :lol

[beastmode]

Yes, his name is Kevin Durant. Durant leads the league in free throw attempts, yet also leads the league in technicals because he is complaining to the refs non stop begging for even more calls! :biggums: :facepalm

QFT

[Rose'sACL]

I don't get what you're point is here. I posted earlier in this thread that the elbow was in no way intentional and it was the wrong call. If anything Hibbert practically looking like a concussed ragdoll after the play is what lead to the flagrant decision. But what exactly does this have to do about Lebron complaining for calls?
jordan was in ref's year throughout the game. against pistons it was even worse. Why do you care about that? he is complaining mostly about calls he should get.
lebron should be at least top 3 in FTs in any era of this league as long as he is scoring 25+ PPG but he is not this year or last when Durant is. of course he is going to try to get more calls in his favor. He wants to win. winning is above trying to look good in people's eyes. He is not committing a crime, he is just trying to get more calls in a basketball game.

[JohnFreeman]

Yes, his name is Kevin Durant. Durant leads the league in free throw attempts, yet also leads the league in technicals because he is complaining to the refs non stop begging for even more calls! :biggums: :facepalm
truth

[aj1987]

Says the guy that literally said LeBron would average 35 PPG with 3 more FTA per game :lol :lol :lol
Do I have to explain it AGAIN? I said, and I quote "LeBron would be averaging 35 PPG a game with KD treatment." LeBron drives more than KD. Scores a LOT more points in the paint. That means more chance to get FT's, if he gets treated the same way as KD. Also, I don't think I've ever seen players get FT's from 3's as much as KD and Harden. LeBron? I don't think it happened even once this season. They don't play the same style of game, so with the same babying, LeBron would be averaging more FT's than KD. Not to mention him putting his opponents in foul trouble and hence changing the way they guard him.

Is that clear enough? I can't dumb it down any further.

[plowking]

I understand complaining about a call every once in a while, but this is getting ridiculous. It's getting to a point where every time something goes wrong Lebron is staring at the refs for not bailing him out.

Lebron might be the only person in the league that does this. And if he isn't, he certainly does it the most.

[Trollsmasher]

Yes, his name is Kevin Durant. Durant leads the league in free throw attempts, yet also leads the league in technicals because he is complaining to the refs non stop begging for even more calls! :biggums: :facepalm
this

[russwest0]

Do I have to explain it AGAIN? I said, and I quote "LeBron would be averaging 35 PPG a game with KD treatment." LeBron drives more than KD. Scores a LOT more points in the paint. That means more chance to get FT's, if he gets treated the same way as KD. Also, I don't think I've ever seen players get FT's from 3's as much as KD and Harden. LeBron? I don't think it happened even once this season. They don't play the same style of game, so with the same babying, LeBron would be averaging more FT's than KD. Not to mention him putting his opponents in foul trouble and hence changing the way they guard him.

Is that clear enough? I can't dumb it down any further.

Wait, you want LeBron to get foul calls on wide open transition layups? :lol

Aren't you that same dipshit who constantly whines about the 2006 Finals NOT being rigged as well? :roll: :roll:

[dunksby]

LeBron doesn't get enough respect from the refs.

[JT123]

Wait, you want LeBron to get foul calls on wide open transition layups? :lol

Aren't you that same dipshit who constantly whines about the 2006 Finals NOT being rigged as well? :roll: :roll:
Funny how idiot's like yourself claim the 2006 Finals were rigged, yet when you want to discredit Lebron ALWAYS bring up him having to join a Champion and Finals MVP! :roll: :roll:
As soon as it comes time to discredit Lebron, Wade's 2006 ring is suddenly the most legit Championship in NBA history. :facepalm

[aj1987]

Wait, you want LeBron to get foul calls on wide open transition layups?
Proving your intelligence once again. The lack of it actually.


Aren't you that same dipshit who constantly whines about the 2006 Finals NOT being rigged as well?
The last time I posted the facts, you had a freaking meltdown and got banned. Also, you're the dumbass who whines about it being rigged. I just re-post plowking's and ImKobe's posts, which literally make you shit in your pants.

[russwest0]

Funny how idiot's like yourself claim the 2006 Finals were rigged, yet when you want to discredit Lebron ALWAYS bring up him having to join a Champion and Finals MVP! :roll: :roll:
As soon as it comes time to discredit Lebron, Wade's 2006 ring is suddenly the most legit Championship in NBA history. :facepalm

Sure, Wade DID win the Championship, but everyone with a brain saw it was rigged. Phil Jackson, Tracy McGrady, Mark Cuban, the media, plenty of others, everyone that watched that series and wasn't a D Wade dickeater, ect, all have reached the conclusion that it was rigged.

Dude goes around whining that it wasn't though, shit's hilarious. He might be a gimmick to make people hate D-Whistle even more just to pimp up LeBron :lol

[JohnFreeman]

Funny how idiot's like yourself claim the 2006 Finals were rigged, yet when you want to discredit Lebron ALWAYS bring up him having to join a Champion and Finals MVP! :roll: :roll:
As soon as it comes time to discredit Lebron, Wade's 2006 ring is suddenly the most legit Championship in NBA history. :facepalm
Yeah, the Durant stans are pretty bad at "trolling".

[wally_world]

This ugly son of a b*tch, so-called GOAT whines all the time about the stupidest shit. Makes himself look like a fcking baby.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

Against the almightly Bucks no less :lol

[STATUTORY]

This ugly son of a b*tch, so-called GOAT whines all the time about the stupidest shit. Makes himself look like a fcking baby.

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

"hold up ref, hold up, i need to protect my FG% and PER"

[sd3035]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/writer/ken-berger/24502310/bosh-on-pacers-tactics-our-guys-are-getting-punched-in-the-face

Anyone think maybe this is why he doesn't get as many FT's as you want?

The fact that he flops all over the floor and has the balls to often call out the officials for not giving him enough calls? Dude got FIFTEEN FT's and still spent most of the post game whining about the refs when the Heat clearly got the better end of the officiating tonight.

Also


:lol

Serious question: Is there a bigger complainer (or excuse maker) in the league than LeBron?

Let's not forget that this is the same guy who blamed his shirt for missing shots :lol

[dannywpt]

He's kinda ruining this FT DOE thing these Bran sheep got going

[TMT]

jordan was in ref's year throughout the game. against pistons it was even worse. Why do you care about that? he is complaining mostly about calls he should get.
lebron should be at least top 3 in FTs in any era of this league as long as he is scoring 25+ PPG but he is not this year or last when Durant is. of course he is going to try to get more calls in his favor. He wants to win. winning is above trying to look good in people's eyes. He is not committing a crime, he is just trying to get more calls in a basketball game.

Please find me a video where Jordan ever acts as ridiculous as this on the court:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

Where the hell is it written that certain players because of status deserve a certain amount of free throws? Kevin Durant is a stick and gets tossed around like a ragdoll, but when Lebron takes the same contact he still gets the shot off and makes it half the time. It's about physicality, Lebron is much larger than most of the people he is matched up with and physically dominates them most of the time. Yet when he rightfully receives contact, the only way in which a defensive player can stop him, he can't stop bitching.

Again, show me a video where Jordan is complaining to the refs saying, "they're hitting me too hard!". You think at this point, 11 years in, he would realize this shit is going to happen night in and night out. It's a contact sport, and Lebron at times acts like he isn't supposed to get roughed up at all.

He isn't whining for wins, he's whining for every little thing to go his way. He did it last night, he did it when they played San Antonio and they were down big most the time. It's practically embedded in this guys' DNA.

Also as a side note on free throws attempted, since that is your main point of emphasis, Lebron isn't exactly making the most of his opportunities. For perimeter players, if you look at the top 30 leaders in FTA, Lebron has the second worst free throw percentage among them next to Michael Carter-Williams (69%). The only players in the top 30 to shoot worse than him from the line are: Dwight, DMC, Griffin, Nene, and as previously states MCW.

[Le Shaqtus]

Only real reason to see LeBron complain was when he tripped over the ref, I don't know what you could do to fix that but I'm not surprised he said something.

[aburre21]

I'd need to see a replay. I had the sound off so I definitely see how I could have missed that.

Regardless though, everything else I said stands pat. Lebron is definitely one of the biggest complainers in the game whenever things aren't going his way. He even talked the refs into reviewing the Scola foul because he claimed it was a flagrant. C'mon man.


you don't even pay attention to the game so you're clearly an idiot. STFU! Ref clearly tripped him.

[AnaheimLakers24]

bran is a bitch

[Solefade]

OP is an idiot


takes every opportunity he can every can to hate on lebron when he wins or loses....get a life doe

[livinglegend]

Please find me a video where Jordan ever acts as ridiculous as this on the court:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif

Where the hell is it written that certain players because of status deserve a certain amount of free throws? Kevin Durant is a stick and gets tossed around like a ragdoll, but when Lebron takes the same contact he still gets the shot off and makes it half the time. It's about physicality, Lebron is much larger than most of the people he is matched up with and physically dominates them most of the time. Yet when he rightfully receives contact, the only way in which a defensive player can stop him, he can't stop bitching.

Again, show me a video where Jordan is complaining to the refs saying, "they're hitting me too hard!". You think at this point, 11 years in, he would realize this shit is going to happen night in and night out. It's a contact sport, and Lebron at times acts like he isn't supposed to get roughed up at all.

He isn't whining for wins, he's whining for every little thing to go his way. He did it last night, he did it when they played San Antonio and they were down big most the time. It's practically embedded in this guys' DNA.

Also as a side note on free throws attempted, since that is your main point of emphasis, Lebron isn't exactly making the most of his opportunities. For perimeter players, if you look at the top 30 leaders in FTA, Lebron has the second worst free throw percentage among them next to Michael Carter-Williams (69%). The only players in the top 30 to shoot worse than him from the line are: Dwight, DMC, Griffin, Nene, and as previously states MCW.

you have been whining in this forum since that game 6, start by fixing yourself and then, criticise others.

[sd3035]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2522763/lebronwhines.gif


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[pegasus]

The funny, or sad, thing about that video is that you can find an identical reaction in every game, and not just once either. He bitches to the refs even after a call on his teammate. He acts like every single call against his team is wrong, no exceptions. It's just pathetic to watch.

[kamil]

The funny, or sad, thing about that video is that you can find an identical reaction in every game, and not just once either. He bitches to the refs even after a call on his teammate. He acts like every single call against his team is wrong, no exceptions. It's just pathetic to watch.

Dude need's to swallow his pride and accept that he along with his band of colluding twats WILL commit legitimate fouls.

[AirTupac]

Thats pathetic. Another nickname added to the list. LePathetic. :applause: :applause: :applause: I'm proud of making that up guys.

[TMT]

you have been whining in this forum since that game 6, start by fixing yourself and then, criticise others.

You've been going off-topic about anything surrounding Lebron that has a negative connotation since you started posting on this forum. Maybe you should stick to the subject at hand instead of filling the board with clutter. You've provided nothing to insinuate that anything in my post you quoted is even remotely wrong. All you Lebron stans are well aware that Lebron can be one of the biggest bitches in the NBA on a nightly basis and can't even admit it.

I can point out the negative qualities of my favorite players, but Lebron/Heat stans seem to be incapable of such. You realize Lebron isn't God, right? :rolleyes:

[AirTupac]

You've been going off-topic about anything surrounding Lebron that has a negative connotation since you started posting on this forum. Maybe you should stick to the subject at hand instead of filling the board with clutter. You've provided nothing to insinuate that anything in my post you quoted is even remotely wrong. All you Lebron stans are well aware that Lebron can be one of the biggest bitches in the NBA on a nightly basis and can't even admit it.

I can point out the negative qualities of my favorite players, but Lebron/Heat stans seem to be incapable of such. You realize Lebron isn't God, right? :rolleyes:


Youre talking to a guy who pussied out of an AVATAR bet ONLINE. He has no idea whats going on.

[livinglegend]

You've been going off-topic about anything surrounding Lebron that has a negative connotation since you started posting on this forum. Maybe you should stick to the subject at hand instead of filling the board with clutter. You've provided nothing to insinuate that anything in my post you quoted is even remotely wrong. All you Lebron stans are well aware that Lebron can be one of the biggest bitches in the NBA on a nightly basis and can't even admit it.

I can point out the negative qualities of my favorite players, but Lebron/Heat stans seem to be incapable of such. You realize Lebron isn't God, right? :rolleyes:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303513

Proved wrong and you lost all credibility right there.


Next.

[livinglegend]

Youre talking to a guy who pussied out of an AVATAR bet ONLINE. He has no idea whats going on.

You lost all credibility. Making up things.
I was the last one standing in there. After i asked a killer question, every1 else pussied out.


Next.

[aj1987]

Please find me a video where Jordan ever acts as ridiculous as this on the court:
He doesn't have to, because he used to get the calls. Just imagine how this forum would've been if LeBron did MJ's push off on a Finals game winner...
You would be here whining and complaining about the refs.
Jordan got away with ridiculous shit, Kobe got away with ridiculous shit, etc., I could name at least 10 players in the history of the NBA that got FT's which were less obvious than the ones that LeBron got.

BTW, here's a pretty good video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN9FpJD4CI).


Where the hell is it written that certain players because of status deserve a certain amount of free throws? Kevin Durant is a stick and gets tossed around like a ragdoll, but when Lebron takes the same contact he still gets the shot off and makes it half the time. It's about physicality, Lebron is much larger than most of the people he is matched up with and physically dominates them most of the time. Yet when he rightfully receives contact, the only way in which a defensive player can stop him, he can't stop bitching.
LeBron got his nose broken in the game against the Thunder. No foul.
He was bleeding after he got fouled this game. No foul.

Shit like that happens almost every game. The difference? Those games are not nationally broadcasted. You idiots see a game or two the whole season and just assume shit.

Heck, Wade should be averaging over 21, if the idiot refs called shit properly (KD treatment).


Again, show me a video where Jordan is complaining to the refs saying, "they're hitting me too hard!". You think at this point, 11 years in, he would realize this shit is going to happen night in and night out. It's a contact sport, and Lebron at times acts like he isn't supposed to get roughed up at all.
It's more about him not getting the same treatment from the refs. Stupid shit. Dude always says that refs don't call it equally.



He did it last night, he did it when they played San Antonio and they were down big most the time.
Because you guys were getting away with murder most of the time?


Also as a side note on free throws attempted, since that is your main point of emphasis, Lebron isn't exactly making the most of his opportunities. For perimeter players, if you look at the top 30 leaders in FTA, Lebron has the second worst free throw percentage among them next to Michael Carter-Williams (69%). The only players in the top 30 to shoot worse than him from the line are: Dwight, DMC, Griffin, Nene, and as previously states MCW.
Nobody gives a shit about FT%. If you actually knew anything about basketball, you would know that defenders would be more careful after they picked up fouls. That would totally change their defensive schemes.

[(e)]

The funny, or sad, thing about that video is that you can find an identical reaction in every game, and not just once either. He bitches to the refs even after a call on his teammate. He acts like every single call against his team is wrong, no exceptions. It's just pathetic to watch.
This.

I also thought it was stupid how Lance gets his second tech for taunting, but Lebron didn't get one tech for the multiple times he taunted. I've seen countless NBA players get T'ed up for less obvious taunting.

Tired of seeing this dude cry like a baby when things aren't going his way, but then acts like the baddest dude on the planet when things are going his way.


Btw AJ, that's a pathetic video. You want me to post videos of players saying Bron gets star treatment and whatnot? No doubt MJ got star treatment, but he didn't act like a 3 year old crying throwing a bitch fit. Plus, he played in an era where you could knock someone on their ass and just get a foul.

[aj1987]

Btw AJ, that's a pathetic video. You want me to post videos of players saying Bron gets star treatment and whatnot? No doubt MJ got star treatment, but he didn't act like a 3 year old crying throwing a bitch fit. Plus, he played in an era where you could knock someone on their ass and just get a foul.
Sure. If you have a video of another GOAT level player making fun of another player getting star treatment, you can sure as hell post it here. MJ didn't act like a "bitch" because he got his fair share of calls.

Honestly though. Watch a Heat game. You'd know how many calls that the refs miss.

[russwest0]

The last two times the Heat and Pacers have met up in the playoffs the games have been horribly officiated.

Pacers had a very strong shot at beating the Heat two years ago without the blatant ref bias. And last year the officiating was horrible all around but Miami definitely got the better end of the stick (as they always do).

Thats the main thing I'm not looking forward to in these playoffs. The same dipshits: Joey Crawford, Dan Crawford, Scott Foster, etc, officiating what could be a great series and ruining it by taking over the game with the whistle.

[Dave3]

He doesn't have to, because he used to get the calls. Just imagine how this forum would've been if LeBron did MJ's push off on a Finals game winner...
You would be here whining and complaining about the refs.
Jordan got away with ridiculous shit, Kobe got away with ridiculous shit, etc., I could name at least 10 players in the history of the NBA that got FT's which were less obvious than the ones that LeBron got.

BTW, here's a pretty good video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToN9FpJD4CI).


LeBron got his nose broken in the game against the Thunder. No foul.
He was bleeding after he got fouled this game. No foul.

Shit like that happens almost every game. The difference? Those games are not nationally broadcasted. You idiots see a game or two the whole season and just assume shit.

Heck, Wade should be averaging over 21, if the idiot refs called shit properly (KD treatment).


It's more about him not getting the same treatment from the refs. Stupid shit. Dude always says that refs don't call it equally.



Because you guys were getting away with murder most of the time?


Nobody gives a shit about FT%. If you actually knew anything about basketball, you would know that defenders would be more careful after they picked up fouls. That would totally change their defensive schemes.
Don't bother. People are either stuck in 2009 (the series against Orlando when he got favourable calls like any other star would) or are just too blinded by bias or hate to see what's in front of them.

LeBron when he first came into the league was very poorly officiated and people were allowed to foul him all the time with no calls. Then about the middle of the 2008-2009 season he started to get calls, which lasted until May 2010 when he left Cleveland. Since then again (and especially lately) he's hit more often than any superstar in the league with no calls.

Unfortunately, you're never going to be able to have a conversation with someone about LeBron. They're either too fanatically in love with him, or too blindly hating on him to bother with. People like you, who are actually objective don't post in these threads very often because 95% of the people reading and replying to their posts are idiots.

[J Shuttlesworth]

TMT seems to be implying that LeBron shouldn't get fouls called becuase he's bigger than Durant... that kind of logic makes no sense to me, but it seems pretty evident with the officials.

And yes, KD is just as bad of a complainer as a LeBron. Cussing out the ref during ASG? lol

[russwest0]

And yes, KD is just as bad of a complainer as a LeBron.

Name one time Durant has EVER complained about the refs to the media like LeBron has done countless times in his career.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Pacers had a very strong shot at beating the Heat two years ago without the blatant ref bias. And last year the officiating was horrible all around but Miami definitely got the better end of the stick (as they always do).


Lol. Miami didn't get the better end of the stick in the ECF or the Finals last year. The refs were letting Hibbert get away with BS verticalities, and the Heat had the last FTA in a finals ever. If anything, they got the short end of the stick.

[aj1987]

TMT seems to be implying that LeBron shouldn't get fouls called becuase he's bigger than Durant... that kind of logic makes no sense to me, but it seems pretty evident with the officials.

And yes, KD is just as bad of a complainer as a LeBron. Cussing out the ref during ASG? lol
He actually said that. How the **** does that even make sense? I guess every player should drop to ~180 and get FT's to average 30+.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Name one time Durant has EVER complained about the refs to the media like LeBron has done countless times in his career.
Who cares about if he says it to the media? He still complains to the ref constantly even though he's the most coddled player in the league. LeBron doesn't get nearly that level of respect from the refs, so it's understandable he gets angry. I still think he overreacts, but the fact that you think KD doesn't complain makes me wonder if you even watch him play :biggums:

[russwest0]

Who cares about if he says it to the media? He still complains to the ref constantly even though he's the most coddled player in the league. LeBron doesn't get nearly that level of respect from the refs, so it's understandable he gets angry. I still think he overreacts, but the fact that you think KD doesn't complain makes me wonder if you even watch him play :biggums:

My god, this is why you don't get into a debate with a LeBron dickeater. They have no comprehension for how debates work and use logical fallacies out the ass.

[J Shuttlesworth]

My god, this is why you don't get into a debate with a LeBron dickeater. They have no comprehension for how debates work and use logical fallacies out the ass.
Of course you ignore the argument, and rely on your ad hominems. Did you actually watch the ECF/Finals last year?

What team shot less FT than the Heat in the finals?

[livinglegend]

He actually said that. How the **** does that even make sense? I guess every player should drop to ~180 and get FT's to average 30+.

The same rules should apply to everyone.
When a player slaps another, by rule, it s a foul. There s shouldnt be any ''contact absorbing'' variable.

[russwest0]

"Who cares if he says it to the media?"

Uh, the officials that gave him more than a few star calls last night and gave the Heat 10 more FT's than the Pacers? Do you not understand how this league works? Say something bad about the officials and they don't forget.

Rasheed Wallace is a prime example of where complaining about the officials will get you. Tim Donaghy said refs would take bets on who could T him up first because they were sick of his bullshit with calling out the refs.

[J Shuttlesworth]

"Who cares if he says it to the media?"

Uh, the officials that gave him more than a few star calls last night and gave the Heat 10 more FT's than the Pacers? Do you not understand how this league works? Say something bad about the officials and they don't forget.


lol he didn't get star calls last night. He drove to the rim and drew contact. They weren't the same phantom type calls your boy KD gets.

And let's not act like this is a regular thing. This is probably the first time he took 15 FT all year, where as KD does that every other game. And you still haven't done anything to disprove the fact that KD complains to the refs constantly, even in the ASG

[russwest0]

lol he didn't get star calls last night. He drove to the rim and drew contact. They weren't the same phantom type calls your boy KD gets.

And let's not act like this is a regular thing. This is probably the first time he took 15 FT all year, where as KD does that every other game. And you still haven't done anything to disprove the fact that KD complains to the refs constantly, even in the ASG

Wait, are you implying the refs give a shit if KD calls for a foul in the all star game?

And no star calls? Like running right into Lance Stephenson twice and going to the line both times? Or traveling, barely even getting touched, and then getting a bonus foul called for him?

Dealing with some yall Heat fans is just :facepalm That shit logic is too much to sift through

[20Four]

Wait, are you implying the refs give a shit if KD calls for a foul in the all star game?

And no star calls? Like running right into Lance Stephenson twice and going to the line both times? Or traveling, barely even getting touched, and then getting a bonus foul called for him?

Dealing with some yall Heat fans is just :facepalm That shit logic is too much to sift through
its ok Heat fans all hop on the bandwagon, remember that if you ask them who was on their team 10 years ago, they couldn't tell you, and probably most forgot shaq was on their team too......

[russwest0]

its ok Heat fans all hop on the bandwagon, remember that if you ask them who was on their team 10 years ago, they couldn't tell you, and probably most forgot shaq was on their team too......

I'm talking about LeBron ripping apart the officials to the media after they gave him all the calls his fans have been crying for this season... and how thats not going to help him get those calls in the future at all...

"But so! KD called for a foul in the ALL STAR GAME!"

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

It's like IRL when I'm trying to have an intelligent discussion with somebody and they go off track throwing out a meaningless, irrelevant statement... (usually applying to them or their own personal agenda in some way) except that's just them being a jackass. You get the sense LeBron stans are actually trying to use these red herrings to somehow win the debates or make an argument.

Shit is sad.

[DaSeba5]

The flagrant changed the game. Indiana regained the momentum. Miami could have had a solid lead by that point, but then it gave the Pacers FTs and the ball.

[Megabox!]

TMT seems to be implying that LeBron shouldn't get fouls called becuase he's bigger than Durant... that kind of logic makes no sense to me, but it seems pretty evident with the officials.
I wasn't sure if he was being serious when he said that, but I was obviously wrong :facepalm

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wait, are you implying the refs give a shit if KD calls for a foul in the all star game?

And no star calls? Like running right into Lance Stephenson twice and going to the line both times? Or traveling, barely even getting touched, and then getting a bonus foul called for him?

Dealing with some yall Heat fans is just :facepalm That shit logic is too much to sift through
lol KD barely gets touched and he goes to the line 10 times a game. There were a couple of questionable calls LeBron got last night, but also a couple calls that went against him that were unfair too. KD ALWAYS gets the benefit of the doubt. The fact that you KD fans are complaining about the refs blowing whistles for LeBron is absolutely atrocious. Might as well be a Lakers fan and say that the refs were trying to rig the series for Sacramento in 2002... That's really how delusional you sound.

[LeGOAT]

He's complaining about an obviously awful call. A ****ing flagrant for accidentally elbowing Hibbert while going through his shooting motion? This comes right after Lebron is snubbed on 2 possible flagrant calls. Lets talk about your boy Durant crying for ****ing fouls at the all star game :roll:

[2swift4u]

Lebron's complaining is really annoying BUT how in the world was that a flagrant foul?? He tried to make a layup and hit Hibbert unintentionally in the face. How can you call that a flagrant foul?? I just don't get that :wtf:

[russwest0]

He's complaining about an obviously awful call. A ****ing flagrant for accidentally elbowing Hibbert while going through his shooting motion? This comes right after Lebron is snubbed on 2 possible flagrant calls. Lets talk about your boy Durant crying for ****ing fouls at the all star game :roll:

When is the last time LeBron "accidentally" elbowed someone before Hibbert? He was just getting payback for the hard shot he took earlier. People did it in the 90s all the time. I don't blame the guy for it, he just shouldn't be upset he got the flagrant called on him for it. And speaking of that, when is that last time an "inadvertent" elbow sent someone to the ground for 30 seconds and forced them to go back to the lockerroom to get concussion tested...

He pulled a trick out of Wade's book with that one. It was obvious. His description after the game trying to justify it was hilarious. "I made a basketball jump and a basketball play. I'm not a kung fu master." Lol @ implying it takes a kung fu master to force your elbow into someones jaw when it's already near it though.

He already exposed his motive earlier in the postgame interview when he said some shit like "Me and Blake Griffin take a lot of shots" or something like that. He just retaliated and got the flagrant for it. That Kung fu explanation though, was just :facepalm

[PsychoBe]

Lebron's complaining is really annoying BUT how in the world was that a flagrant foul?? He tried to make a layup and hit Hibbert unintentionally in the face. How can you call that a flagrant foul?? I just don't get that :wtf:

too much damage. hibbert was obviously hurt and shaken and writhing and pain plus the officials were right there to see bran's elbow drive into his chin. they had to work in interest of the defensive player there and although it wasn't the intent that they ruled the flagrant it was the follow-through and damage with it that urged the refs to do so because hibbert was defenseless.

[LeGOAT]

When is the last time LeBron "accidentally" elbowed someone before Hibbert? He was just getting payback for the hard shot he took earlier. People did it in the 90s all the time. I don't blame the guy for it, he just shouldn't be upset he got the flagrant called on him for it.

And speaking of that, when is that last time an "inadvertent" elbow sent someone to the ground for 30 seconds and forced them to go back to the lockerroom to get concussion tested...

He pulled a trick out of Wade's book with that one. It was obvious. His description after the game trying to justify it was hilarious. "I made a basketball jump and a basketball play. I'm not a kung fu master." Lol @ implying it takes a kung fu master to force your elbow into someones jaw when it's already near it though.
Naw

[Black and White]

Ok, both sides need to let this go, the Durant v Bron thing has taken over ISH,

LeBron lost, let it go, he made the right play passing to Bosh, can't bash him for that, the foul wasn't flagrant it was accidental.

The only thing that you can bash him for is whining too much, thats about it,

Why not talk about the real issue here? Which is Stephenson getting kicked out for nothing

[LeGOAT]

Ok, both sides need to let this go, the Durant v Bron thing has taken over ISH,

LeBron lost, let it go, he made the right play passing to Bosh, can't bash him for that, the foul wasn't flagrant it was accidental.

The only thing that you can bash him for is whining too much, thats about it,

Why not talk about the real issue here? Which is Stephenson getting kicked out for nothing
He got kicked out for getting 2 technical fouls. Thats the rule bro

[russwest0]

Why not talk about the real issue here? Which is Stephenson getting kicked out for nothing

Kicked out for nothing? Wade and the Heat complained and asked him to be kicked out. Wouldn't call that nothing. In the words of Al Jefferson "that's why yall the champs"

[Black and White]

He got kicked out for getting 2 technical fouls. Thats the rule bro

Have to be fair, that wasn't a technical, I have seen worse trash talking and eyeing out and nobody got a tech. That was a soft call.

[Black and White]

Kicked out for nothing? Wade and the Heat complained and asked him to be kicked out. Wouldn't call that nothing. In the words of Al Jefferson "that's why yall the champs"

Wade should have got a tech for smiling at him.

[russwest0]

Wade should have got a tech for smiling at him.

What about the first tech on stephenson? Dude was exchanging words with Chalmers, got shoved by Wade, and T'd up for it.

This is why no one respects Wade TBH. He's like the Harden of rep manipulating but he's also dirty as hell.

[LeGOAT]

Have to be fair, that wasn't a technical, I have seen worse trash talking and eyeing out and nobody got a tech. That was a soft call.
Maybe ten years ago. The refs toss out techs like they are going out of business. It was a very clear call and I've seen techs called for alot less

[J Shuttlesworth]

:lol russwest meltdown in progress

A durant fan literally complaining about another star getting calls. The irony is overwhelming

[Black and White]

What about the first tech on stephenson? Dude was exchanging words with Chalmers, got shoved by Wade, and T'd up for it.

This is why no one respects Wade TBH. He's like the Harden of rep manipulating but he's also dirty as hell.

I agree, the first tech was stupid too, refs have to understand that these two teams do not like each other, its bound to be a heated game, they need to let the players play it out rather than trying to manipulate the entire game.

[Black and White]

Maybe ten years ago. The refs toss out techs like they are going out of business. It was a very clear call and I've seen techs called for alot less

Fair enough, I just wouldn't have tossed him without giving Wade a tech either, if eyeing someone out is a tech, smiling like a bitch is also a tech, right?

[russwest0]

:lol russwest meltdown in progress

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/s4s/image/1390/60/1390603624038.jpg

The **** is this kid running on about? The only one here having a meltdown is you, homeboy. You're that child trying to draw attention to yourself because the adults won't give you any.

[J Shuttlesworth]

http://img.4plebs.org/boards/s4s/image/1390/60/1390603624038.jpg

The **** is this kid running on about? The only one here having a meltdown is you, homeboy. You're that child trying to draw attention to yourself because the adults won't give you any.
A KD stan literally complaining about another player getting calls :lol :lol I haven't seen anything this pathetic since pauk's lion essay. It's funny how hard you are trying to defend yourself too :lol :lol

RUSSWEST MELTDOWN 2014 :rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[russwest0]

The ****? I thought I was a Westbrook stan?

[J Shuttlesworth]

LeBron - non intentional contact with Hibbert = flagrant = russwest happy

KD gets brushed by winds travelling at 5mph = flagrant on god = russwest happy

It's great how your favorite player sleeps with the refs, and yet you still complain after getting all the benefit of the doubt. Very KD -like. You must be a true fan :cheers:

[J Shuttlesworth]

The ****? I thought I was a Westbrook stan?
You probably don't even know Westbrook's jersey #. Everyone knows you are a Kobe fan, and thus a new Durant stan. Don't act like you weren't rooting for PG before KD started going beast :lol

[red1]

When the highest basketball IQ in the league speaks you have no choice but to listen. Lets just hope the refs smarten up and call the flagrant foul on hibbert the next time he hits bronbron's elbow with his face

[JT123]

Have to be fair, that wasn't a technical, I have seen worse trash talking and eyeing out and nobody got a tech. That was a soft call.
Did you not see game 6 of the 2012 WCF? Stephen Jackson got a technical just for looking at OKC's bench after he made a 3. :lol :lol
That has to be the worst technical I have ever seen. :facepalm

[BigMacAttack]

Did you not see game 6 of the 2012 WCF? Stephen Jackson got a technical just for looking at OKC's bench after he made a 3. :lol :lol
That has to be the worst technical I have ever seen. :facepalm

I would be calling foul if that ugly ass mother****er looked at me too.

[2swift4u]

Did you not see game 6 of the 2012 WCF? Stephen Jackson got a technical just for looking at OKC's bench after he made a 3. :lol :lol
That has to be the worst technical I have ever seen. :facepalm


Talking about bad tech calls: A couple of weeks ago they called the Birdman for a technical foul after he had blocked some guy and made the "not in my house" gesture (which he does a lot btw). He didn't even do it towards the player but got called for a tech anyway. :facepalm