View Full Version : What does clutch mean to you?
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:20 PM
I am one of the few that consider clutch being far more than making or missing a shot. Clutch to me is doing the correct thing in pressure situations. Getting a steal, rebound, block, assist etc etc are all clutch if done in crunch time. I even go so far as to not harping on a make or a miss to not matter too much. I think it's not clutch to take a fadeaway jumper over 2 or 3 defenders when you have open teammates in position to hit a wide open shot that you know they can make.
Help this old fart understand what you guys consider clutch.
Demitri98
03-27-2014, 04:23 PM
Clutch to me is making the best play possible on the biggest stage, under the brightest lights, whether it be making the game-winner or hitting your open PF who's a great midrange shooter to hit the game winner.
IncarceratedBob
03-27-2014, 04:24 PM
Clutch is making tough shots down the stretch that lead to your teams victory
You can't be clutch in a loss
You can't choke in a win
There is no such thing as a "clutch pass", that's something made up by LeBron fans, LeBron isn't clutch when he passes. The guy who he passes too and makes the shot is clutch
Fire Colangelo
03-27-2014, 04:24 PM
Simply taking over when the game is on the line, both offensively and defensively.
I remember Wade has one play against the Bulls where Heat was down 2 and Wade got the steal and hit a game winning 3. That was the definition of clutch.
RightToCensor
03-27-2014, 04:24 PM
The Beard
Uncle Drew
03-27-2014, 04:25 PM
Stepping up when everyone expects you to, when everyone is looking at you, by making the right play(s). Clutch plays aren't just made late in the 4th or OT. LeBron's game 6 in Boston for instance was insanely clutch. Not just the media, not just the fans, but the whole country was watching him.
RichieW
03-27-2014, 04:27 PM
Being clutch is about making the right play, whether it's a shot or a pass.
KyrieTheFuture
03-27-2014, 04:28 PM
This thread should prove that clutch isn't even a thing. If something doesn't have a definition, it can't be measured.
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:30 PM
Clutch to me is making the best play possible on the biggest stage, under the brightest lights, whether it be making the game-winner or hitting your open PF who's a great midrange shooter to hit the game winner.
Or your center closing out and contesting a wide open shot without fouling. Insanely clutch.
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:34 PM
Clutch is making tough shots down the stretch that lead to your teams victory
You can't be clutch in a loss
You can't choke in a win
There is no such thing as a "clutch pass", that's something made up by LeBron fans, LeBron isn't clutch when he passes. The guy who he passes too and makes the shot is clutch
If I go down and out my team up by one with 5 seconds left on the clock then that's clutch. If you go down and score and your team wins, my shot was still clutch.
A clutch pass is putting it right on the money. Those last second passes by Rondo in years past should show you. If he wasn't clutch, those passes wouldn't be as accurate. Follow me?
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:34 PM
Simply taking over when the game is on the line, both offensively and defensively.
I remember Wade has one play against the Bulls where Heat was down 2 and Wade got the steal and hit a game winning 3. That was the definition of clutch.
I agree
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:35 PM
Stepping up when everyone expects you to, when everyone is looking at you, by making the right play(s). Clutch plays aren't just made late in the 4th or OT. LeBron's game 6 in Boston for instance was insanely clutch. Not just the media, not just the fans, but the whole country was watching him.
I totally agree. I feel games aren't won or lost in 1 quarter.
Jameerthefear
03-27-2014, 04:36 PM
A better word than "clutch" is "anti-Kobe". It makes sure that when you are discussing things like this everyone is on the same page.
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:36 PM
This thread should prove that clutch isn't even a thing. If something doesn't have a definition, it can't be measured.
Nah it's something that can't be measured. I don't consider a player more clutch or not as clutch than other players for the most part.
oarabbus
03-27-2014, 04:36 PM
Clutch: the left pedal of a car with a manual transmission. ****ing clutch.
Anyway, passes, blocks, steals, rebounds, defense, can all be clutch. Anyone who thinks only scoring can be clutch is dumb and probably doesn't play basketball IRL.
Clutch steal is self-explanatory. See Tayshaun Prince for clutch block. See Bosh in game 6 for a godly clutch rebound and clutch block. There are clutch charges and saves too.
If you make a winning play in crunch time, that is clutch.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-27-2014, 04:37 PM
Making the right play in key moments. I dont define "clutch" as something you do in the final seconds of a game.
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:38 PM
A better word than "clutch" is "anti-Kobe". It makes sure that when you are discussing things like this everyone is on the same page.
As much as I hate him, I've seen him make clutch plays more times than not. I'm not talking about made or missed shots. It was a game where he dished it to Bynum for the game winner. He said he knew he was gonna have all the attention and he knew he'd have a man open. That is clutch. Not letting the moment mess up your mentality.
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 04:39 PM
Making the right play in key moments. I dont define "clutch" as something you do in the final seconds of a game.
Normally though it's regulated to crunch time. Like around the last 5 minutes of a game.
kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-27-2014, 04:39 PM
A better word than "clutch" is "anti-Kobe". It makes sure that when you are discussing things like this everyone is on the same page.
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kuniva_dAMiGhTy
03-27-2014, 04:41 PM
Normally though it's regulated to crunch time. Like around the last 5 minutes of a game.
Oh I agree. Just hate people who think "clutch" is a walk-off shot or something. There's more to it than that.
oarabbus
03-27-2014, 04:42 PM
Oh I agree. Just hate people who think "clutch" is a walk-off shot or something. There's more to it than that.
Exactly. These are the same people who think a 15/2 player is more valuable than a 12/10 player.
J Shuttlesworth
03-27-2014, 04:43 PM
Clutch to me is making the best play possible on the biggest stage, under the brightest lights, whether it be making the game-winner or hitting your open PF who's a great midrange shooter to hit the game winner.
Sounds more like deferring. Taking the shot with 4 hands in your face and being fearless about it = clutch, even if it's a .05% shot
oarabbus
03-27-2014, 04:45 PM
Sounds more like deferring. Taking the shot with 4 hands in your face and being fearless about it = clutch, even if it's a .05% shot
... if it goes in.
kamil
03-27-2014, 04:46 PM
Clutch = hitting game winners in do or die situations with less than 24 seconds left on the clock.
performing under pressure
russwest0
03-27-2014, 04:49 PM
Sealing the deal and winning the game for your team when they need you to.
bdreason
03-27-2014, 04:49 PM
Clutch is the ability to maintain or elevate your game in high pressure situations.
russwest0
03-27-2014, 05:00 PM
Clutch is the ability to maintain or elevate your game in high pressure situations.
So LeBrons game costing turnover yesterday would not be classified as "clutch?"
Trollsmasher
03-27-2014, 05:01 PM
LeBron
Mass Debator
03-27-2014, 05:21 PM
Composure in high pressured situations.
What does clutch mean to me? I could tell you but as they say, a picture is worth more than a thousand words:
http://i.imgur.com/HUWhb8q.jpg
oarabbus
03-27-2014, 05:48 PM
What does clutch mean to me? I could tell you but as they say, a picture is worth more than a thousand words:
Yeah that offensive foul was ****ing CLUTCH bro :lol
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 05:51 PM
... if it goes in.
See to me that's not clutch. Even if it goes in. It's a bad shot. The moment made you get so hype that you took a bad shot.
Mr Exlax
03-27-2014, 05:52 PM
What does clutch mean to me? I could tell you but as they say, a picture is worth more than a thousand words:
http://i.imgur.com/HUWhb8q.jpg
So then shooting is the only thing you can relate clutch to?
Jameerthefear
03-27-2014, 05:53 PM
A couple nights ago Orlando was playing Utah was playing and it was a close game. Victor Oladipo hits an awesome stepback, but Trey Burke gets an open 3 on the other end to win the game. On the Ballstreams chat a couple of us both declared that both players were anti-Kobe.
A couple nights ago Orlando was playing Utah was playing and it was a close game. Victor Oladipo hits an awesome stepback, but Trey Burke gets an open 3 on the other end to win the game. On the Ballstreams chat a couple of us both declared that both players were anti-Kobe.
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3peated
03-27-2014, 05:56 PM
being clutch is not only making the decision to do something, but executing it flawlessly with no time remaining.
smoovegittar
03-27-2014, 06:07 PM
Making the right play in key moments. I dont define "clutch" as something you do in the final seconds of a game.
This.
tpols
03-27-2014, 06:19 PM
If I go down and out my team up by one with 5 seconds left on the clock then that's clutch. If you go down and score and your team wins, my shot was still clutch.
A clutch pass is putting it right on the money. Those last second passes by Rondo in years past should show you. If he wasn't clutch, those passes wouldn't be as accurate. Follow me?
I disagree.. comparing a shot to a pass. In order to mess up on a pass that would take super saiyan level choking. Throwing it to the other team or into the stands on the last possession is worst case scenario.
Most passes with x seconds left are simple kickouts when a star is doubled.. shooting is where pressure comes in. One slight tweak to your shot because you thught too much and its a miss. Even if you were thinking too much for a pass you still have a much larger window to throw the ball to.. anywhere from your teammates knees to shoulders really.
kamil
03-27-2014, 06:21 PM
I disagree.. comparing a shot to a pass. In order to mess up on a pass that would take super saiyan level choking. Throwing it to the other team or into the stands on the last possession is worst case scenario.
Most passes with x seconds left are simple kickouts when a star is doubled.. shooting is where pressure comes in. One slight tweak to your shot because you thught too much and its a miss. Even if you were thinking too much for a pass you still have a much larger window to throw the ball to.. anywhere from your teammates knees to shoulders really.
Only person who could fvck up a pass under pressure situation is Kendrick Perkins. Making a shot takes FAR more accuracy.
Its simply a guy who has made many gamewinning plays in situations where even a single offensive/defensive outcome could lose or win you the game (shot/pass/block/rebound/steal) which is ofcourse at the very last minutes or better yet last seconds of the game either being tied or coming from behind.
tpols
03-27-2014, 06:23 PM
its hard to say someone played clutch defense because its mostly reactionary.. you cant force the issue and take control like you can with the ball in your hands and full space in front of you. Same thing with an assist.. you dont really have full control once you let someone else shoot it. Its all up to them to make it or not.
tmacattack33
03-27-2014, 06:23 PM
Clutchness = A player's performance at the end of an important game
Or you can also apply it to a player's performance in a whole entire game if that game is very important (A Game 7 in the playoffs in any round...or basically any game past game 4 of the Conference Finals).
One more thing, in the playoffs it doesnt have to be only the last minute/seconds where clutch time is.... it can also be an entire game, in a game where you are down 3-1 or better yet 3-3, facing elimination.... its simply how you perform when your back is against the wall, when you absolutely MUST perform NOW or the game or in this case the series is over....
HOoopCityJones
03-27-2014, 06:56 PM
Passing to a Teammate during an expiring shot clock when you're the best player on the floor. Specifically from 3.
Milbuck
03-27-2014, 07:07 PM
All I know is that it doesn't mean James Harden.
KyleKong
03-27-2014, 07:08 PM
All I know is that it doesn't mean James Harden.
How many times have you fapped to this?
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ron-artest-elbow-harden.gif
Be honest.
Euroleague
03-27-2014, 07:24 PM
It means the opposite of Bricky Scrubio and Kevin Love.
And of course, the world's most clutch player is Vassilis Spanoulis.
Smook A.
03-27-2014, 07:31 PM
All I know is that it doesn't mean James Harden.
But he's #1 in clutch wpa. http://www.inpredictable.com/2014/03/measuring-clutch-play-in-nba.html
Its your opinion but stats say hes one of the clutchest players in the NBA.
Milbuck
03-27-2014, 07:33 PM
How many times have you fapped to this?
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/ron-artest-elbow-harden.gif
Be honest.
http://static.fjcdn.com/gifs/Oh+stop+it+you....+FOLLOW+ME+ON+TUMBLR+http+andres-cordova.tumblr.com_091b98_3599485.gif
Oh you! I...I've never fapped to that.
Too many to count.
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