#1 NBA Defender Of All-Time According to InsideHoops

[Brizzly]

I thought we'd do the same as Deuce Bigalow did with top 100 players of all time but for best defenders of all time. We will only go up to the best ten. But I will have this week to organize this so it might get a bit pacy, maybe 30-40 votes or end of each day to hurry the voting up.

If anyone wants to keep it going after top 10 be my guest:).

Simple rules
*Vote for the best defender of all time.
*One vote/poster
*The player winning a round is ineligable to vote for the next round.

So for this thread who is the greatest defender of all time according to you?

[1987_Lakers]

Bill Russell

[IncarceratedBob]

Tim Duncan

[Brizzly]

My vote goes to KG.

[LeGOAT]

Bron or Russell

[Johnny Jones]

Ben Wallace.

[imdaman99]

Bill Russell

[Cold soul]

Bill Russell or KG.

[Brizzly]

Bron or Russell

Bill Russell or KG.
Only one vote, please pick one of them to have your vote counted.

[Solefade]

who the fvck has actually seen bill russell play ITT? and i'm not talking about youtube videos

[BuffaloBill]

Patty Mills

[IncarceratedBob]

who the fvck has actually seen bill russell play ITT? and i'm not talking about youtube videos
It's pathetic. These clowns are basing their votes on freaking fairy tales. No factual evidence that Bill Russell was an all world defender.

[RightToCensor]

David Robinson

[Brizzly]

Patty Mills

Buffy you goon:facepalm

[The Magics]

Marc Gasol

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Sheed.

[alenleomessi]

luc richard mbah a moute

[MP.Trey]

Ruben Patterson

[Le Shaqtus]

Dwight

[RichieW]

14 All-Defence selections: Tim Duncan

[kaiteng]

Bill Russell. Duh! :confusedshrug:

[MrC1991]

Just to be different....Dennis Rodman.

[HOoopCityJones]

Scottie Pippen.

[Brizzly]

Score up till now not counting to votes because they voted on two people.

Three votes
Bill Russell

Two votes
Tim Duncan

One vote

Kevin Garnett
Ben Wallace
Patty Mills
David Robinson
Marc Gasol
Pat Beverly
Rasheed Wallace
Luch Richard Mbah a Moute
Ruben Patterson
Dwight Howard
Dennis Rodman
Scottie Pippen.

Keep em coming ishiots

[RightToCensor]

Can I change my vote?

[Brizzly]

Can I change my vote?

Yes!

I'll just put Dwight at two votes.

[Black Mamba's B]

Scottie Pippen.
Scottie. Although Eddie Jones wasn't too bad himself

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

None of u nikkas watched Russell hop off

My vote is for KG

[RightToCensor]

Yes!

I'll just put Dwight at two votes.
YOU READ MY MOTHER****ING MIND FOR REAL?!?!?!


WHAT ARE YOU A WIZARD :biggums:

[Cold soul]

Only one vote, please pick one of them to have your vote counted.

Sorry my bad Bill Russell then.

[Brizzly]

Sorry my bad Bill Russell then.

Cool thanks!


YOU READ MY MOTHER****ING MIND FOR REAL?!?!?!


WHAT ARE YOU A WIZARD :biggums:
:pimp:

[HomieWeMajor]

The Big Ticket

[YouGotServed]

Dwight.

[Smook A.]

Hakeem

HM: Mutumbo, Ben Wallace

Not gonna say Bill Russell because I never saw him play

[RightToCensor]

Hakeem
Change it to Dwight

*cough*cough*read my white text*cough*cough*

[ABfor3]

Kevin Garnett

[Smook A.]

Change it to Dwight

*cough*cough*read my white text*cough*cough*
Hakeem is better. Our buddy Dwight is close *wink*

[Angel Face]

I'm picking Dennis Rodman. He's not just a great defender but he can get in everyone's head as well. He can destroy your game physically and mentally.

[DMV2]

Michael Jordan

[dyna]

KG
Hakeem

[Genaro]

Kobe Bryant

[Brizzly]

KG
Hakeem

Vote for only one player please!


Updated list

Four votes

Bill Russell
Kevin Garnett


Three votes
Dwight Howard


Two votes
Tim Duncan
Scottie Pippen
Dennis Rodman

One vote
Ben Wallace Hakeem Olajuwon
Patty Mills
David Robinson
Marc Gasol
Pat Beverly
Rasheed Wallace
Luch Richard Mbah a Moute
Ruben Patterson
Michael Jordan
Kobe Bryant

[T_L_P]

Duncan

[ProfessorMurder]

Gotta shout out Mutombo.

[Rose'sACL]

Tim Duncan

[SHAQisGOAT]

Bill Russell

[Young X]

KG

[KevinNYC]

Bill Russell

[Brizzly]

Bill Russell

The only one that may have watched him play:D

[Legends66NBA7]

Bill Russell.

His impact and influence on defense is both #1.

[hangintheair]

Mark Eaton, Bruce Bowen, Ron Artest, Michael Cooper

But I'll go with "The Worm" Dennis Rodman

[Deuce Bigalow]

Thought I should add this since this is about who the GOAT defender is. Here's the defensive rating of Russell's teams during the time he played, also the year before he joined Boston and the year when he retired.

You can check using the dropdown menu on this page:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?pli=1&key=0At9OxyY2Zhw6dF80TGxJQXliY0RlcXlxSHJXdGhjV3c&type=view&gid=3&f=true&colid0=1&filterstr0=1956-57&colid1=2&filterstr1=NBA&sortcolid=16&sortasc=true&rowsperpage=25

I'll do the years before and after he joined:

55-56 - 6th (+2.4% vs -4.1% ROC 1st)
56-57 - 1st (-5.9% vs -3.0% ROC 2nd)
57-58 - 1st (-6.3% vs -1.5% CIN 2nd)
58-59 - 1st (-6.1% vs -1.2% DET 2nd)
59-60 - 1st (-5.9% vs -4.7% PHW 2nd)
60-61 - 1st (-8.1% vs -4.0% STL 2nd)
61-62 - 1st (-8.7% vs -2.7% SYR 2nd)
62-63 - 1st (-8.8% vs -3.2% STL 2nd)
63-64 - 1st (-11.8% vs -7.2% SFW 2nd)
64-65 - 1st (-10.6% vs -2.1% STL 2nd)
65-66 - 1st (-7.5% vs -4% PHI 2nd)
66-67 - 1st (-5.4% vs -3.2% SFW 2nd)
67-68 - 2nd (-4.9% vs -5.8% PHI 1st)
68-69 - 1st (-7.1% vs -3.1% SDR 2nd)
69-70 - 7th (-0.5% vs -7.8% NYK 1st)

[Keno]

lebron james.

[KevinNYC]

The only one that may have watched him play:D
He was better in high school before the toe injury.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Mikan deserves a mention. Take a look at his team's defense during his prime.

1948-49: 1st in opp ppg, no def rtg available yet
1949-50: 2nd in opp ppg, no def rtg available yet
1950-51: 1st in def rtg
1951-52: 1st in def rtg
1952-53: 1st in def rtg
1953-54: 2nd in def rtg

[Brizzly]

He was better in high school before the toe injury.
:oldlol:


Mikan deserves a mention. Take a look at his team's defense during his prime.

1948-49: 1st in opp ppg, no def rtg available yet
1949-50: 2nd in opp ppg, no def rtg available yet
1950-51: 1st in def rtg
1951-52: 1st in def rtg
1952-53: 1st in def rtg
1953-54: 2nd in def rtg

That is very long time ago, nonetheless interesting.

Im closing the poll soon, do you want to cast a vote?

[secund2nun]

LOL at Bill Russel. If I shut down a 5 year old at the park will ish vote me as best defender of all time?

Make my vote Duncan or KG (depends on whoever has the better shot at beating Russel in this vote)

[Deuce Bigalow]

:oldlol:



That is very long time ago.

Im closing the poll soon, do you want to cast a vote?
No I can't choose a player.

[Trollsmasher]

KG

[Brizzly]

No I can't choose a player.

:cheers:



....



seven votes

Kevin Garnett


Six votes

Bill Russell


Five votes

Tim Duncan




Three votes
Dwight Howard
Dennis Rodman

Two votes

Scottie Pippen


One vote
Ben Wallace Hakeem Olajuwon
Patty Mills
David Robinson
Marc Gasol
Pat Beverly
Rasheed Wallace
Luch Richard Mbah a Moute
Ruben Patterson
Michael Jordan
Kobe Bryant
Mutombo
LeBron James


Greatest defender of all time according to Insidehoops

http://www.bostonsbettah.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/kevin-garnett.jpeg

[livinglegend]

:oldlol: At everyone voting for Russell!
What are you guys basing your votes on? You didnt even watch him play.

[sd3035]

Durant

[fpliii]

Shouldn't this be a tie? Russell had seven votes:

Bill Russell

Bill Russell

Bill Russell. Duh! :confusedshrug:

Sorry my bad Bill Russell then.

Bill Russell

Bill Russell

Bill Russell.

His impact and influence on defense is both #1.
It's nice to see my dude KG getting some recognition on this board, though.

[Brizzly]

Shouldn't this be a tie? Russell had seven votes:







It's nice to see my dude KG getting some recognition on this board, though.

Maybe someone edited a post.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Edit: nevermind :lol


My vote goes to KG.

None of u nikkas watched Russell hop off

My vote is for KG

KG
Hakeem

Kevin Garnett

The Big Ticket

KG

LOL at Bill Russel. If I shut down a 5 year old at the park will ish vote me as best defender of all time?

Make my vote Duncan or KG (depends on whoever has the better shot at beating Russel in this vote)
Can't count this shit

KG
7 votes

[JGXEN]

KG. Defends 1-5, defensive anchor.

[sundizz]

Hakeem, Drob, Deke or Ben Wallace. Those are clearly the right answers.

Drob with a 4.5 bpg, 2.3 spg season

or

Hakeem with the 4.6 bpg, 2.1 spg season


is much much much better than anything else anyone on the list has done.