Where do I sign up for Obama Care?

[9erempiree]

I need to sign up before I get fined. I don't believe in it but I better do it.


?????

[nathanjizzle]

the real question you should be asking is "where do i sign up for a brain"

[9erempiree]

the real question you should be asking is "where do i sign up for a brain"

Let me know too when you find it.

:cheers:

[DukeDelonte13]

you just have to be insured.

Obamacare isn't a tangible thing. It's not a specific insurance package. It's the name of a law that sets new standards for health insurance providers. Everybody that has health insurance technically has obamacare.

Just go to healthcare.gov or call them. That has the rate comparer that has all the insurance companies bidding for your business. It's like the compare your price thing from progressive insurance except it's real quotes and not just made up numbers.

Or you can just call a health insurance company directly but i don't know why anybody would do that nowadays.

[9erempiree]

you just have to be insured.

Obamacare isn't a tangible thing. It's not a specific insurance package. It's the name of a law that sets new standards for health insurance providers. Everybody that has health insurance technically has obamacare.

Just go to healthcare.gov or call them. That has the rate comparer that has all the insurance companies bidding for your business. It's like the compare your price thing from progressive insurance except it's real quotes and not just made up numbers.

Or you can just call a health insurance company directly but i don't know why anybody would do that nowadays.

thank you. that is what I was asking for. The site.

[KevinNYC]

thank you. that is what I was asking for. The site.

California has one of the best state exchanges.

https://www.coveredca.com/

[niko]

I need to sign up before I get fined. I don't believe in it but I better do it.


?????

What tangible benefit do you get from these stupid posts all day? Is there a joy in it I am missing?

[Nick Young]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
OBAMA! OBAMA!

[Patrick Chewing]

Fight the system. How dare the government impose another tax on me??

[KevinNYC]

Or you can just call a health insurance company directly but i don't know why anybody would do that nowadays.

You can call an insurance broker whose fee is paid for by the insurance companies. This cartoonist says it was the best 0$ she ever spent. (http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Cartoons/2014/March/My-Experience-With-Obamacare.aspx)

If you sign up today, you have until April 15th to complete it without a fine, I beleive check the instructions on the websites.


Obamacare isn't a tangible thing. It's not a specific insurance package. It's the name of a law that sets new standards for health insurance providers. Everybody that has health insurance technically has obamacare. Technically, it's the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, but Republicans starting with Mitt Romney started calling it Obamacare to prevent rational discussion about it, you can see how effective this was in this clip where Jimmy Kimmel asked people if the preferred the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx2scvIFGjE

[Godzuki]

just google it. the main site will redirect you to your state site and then you'll have to fill out stuff from there.

i had a hard time picking a plan since theres a lot of options but i rarely go to the doctor. i don't even know if those dental coverages are worth it since they cover so little dental and its almost like if you pay out of pocket you'll still save more than paying monthly just for a checkup every so often. even the stuff they cover seems so minimal or partial of what procedures would probably cost, IF u need them at all.

i feel i got a great deal on health insurance tho compared to what i was paying before with blue cross blue shield.

[ALBballer]

If you have low income and are healthy you might be better off financially paying the fine. It's only like $100 for this year or 1% of your income...

[Godzuki]

If you have low income and are healthy you might be better off financially paying the fine. It's only like $100 for this year or 1% of your income...


they'd be getting health insurance for free or for like a $1/month on the cheapest bronze plan.

only catch is they have a huge deductible so its not like they're going to be able to go in for checkups and things like that without paying. beggars can't be choosers tho.

the scare tactics of the Republican party are for the most part outright lies(like usual). most people aren't going to be seeing the doctor all of a sudden for little stuff since the way the plans work is you have to pay these gigantic deductibles before the insurance can kick in. its good for major stuff that happens out of nowhere tho but you're still responsible for like 30-40% of it, at least you're covered to a large extent.

[nathanjizzle]

my mom dad and sister has healthcare for 90 dollars a month through obamacare. 90 dollars for 3 people

[KevinNYC]

Good news for me. I can't complete it because they won't recognize my certificate of citizen number. I was naturalized as a citizen but I got a certificate of citizen instead because I was so young at the time.

Just last Monday, I had a full-time job, coverage...life was good. :(
Did you get laid off and lose your coverage? That sucks.

You probably are better off calling someone rather than going through the website. Probably easier to deal with your citizenship number.

[KevinNYC]

i got the silver plan back in the states (central fla) for $25 per month, god knows what the fvuck it covers, i just have it though in case anything were to happen. Does it even cover physicals or is that all out of pocket ?
According to WebMD, in Florida.
Silver Plan: You pay 30% and the plan pays 70%.

[Shabba Ranks]

According to WebMD, in Florida.
Silver Plan: You pay 30% and the plan pays 70%.


where did you get the info ? i'd like to have a read at it

[DukeDelonte13]

just google it. the main site will redirect you to your state site and then you'll have to fill out stuff from there.

i had a hard time picking a plan since theres a lot of options but i rarely go to the doctor. i don't even know if those dental coverages are worth it since they cover so little dental and its almost like if you pay out of pocket you'll still save more than paying monthly just for a checkup every so often. even the stuff they cover seems so minimal or partial of what procedures would probably cost, IF u need them at all.

i feel i got a great deal on health insurance tho compared to what i was paying before with blue cross blue shield.


Most of the time dental is never worth it unless you got a bunch of kids you gotta pay for.

Just keep your teeth clean, floss, and see your dentist every 6 months. If you do that you are spending at most 300 a year for 2 cleanings and one set of X-rays. If you can find a dental rider cheaper than 300 let me know. I'd sign up for that.

[Akrazotile]

Most of the time dental is never worth it unless you got a bunch of kids you gotta pay for.

Just keep your teeth clean, floss, and see your dentist every 6 months. If you do that you are spending at most 300 a year for 2 cleanings and one set of X-rays. If you can find a dental rider cheaper than 300 let me know. I'd sign up for that.


I've actually always been curious, if you had your teeth knocked out playin sports, or you slipped and fell, etc. would that treatment be covered as "dental" simply because it's treated by a dentist or would that be part of regular health insurance because it's really an injury that happens to be of the mouth, but is unrelated to typical dental issues like cavities and gingivitis etc.?

Anyone know?

[niko]

NYC healthcare saved my ass when I got laid off. It allowed me to take temporary jobs (i'll be permanent soon, in may) that didn't have health coverage and not spend all my money on health coverage.

For those of you who keep saying "i'm generally healthy" my wife is the healthiest person in the world, until right after the kid, when all of a sudden she had a serious ulcer condition to deal with. Because we had coverage, we were able to go to a really good doctor, and over a year they were able to get it under control (if not it could have caused lifelong serious health problems). The cost to us? $0, outside of what we paid for health coverage. The cost to insurance? $240,000. You can't just say "i'll be ok".

Or, if you are active, you could fall and break an arm. That requires a doctor, healthy or not.

[KevinNYC]

where did you get the info ? i'd like to have a read at it
I just did a google search for
ACA florida sliver plan

First link here (https://www.google.com/search?q=aca+florida+plan+silver&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS525US525&oq=aca+florida+plan+silver&aqs=chrome..69i57.5745j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)

One of the points of the ACA is to standardize levels of care so consumers can actually shop around and know that the policies are pretty much the same.

Before the ACA, insurance companies made it very, very difficult to comparison shop.

[DukeDelonte13]

I've actually always been curious, if you had your teeth knocked out playin sports, or you slipped and fell, etc. would that treatment be covered as "dental" simply because it's treated by a dentist or would that be part of regular health insurance because it's really an injury that happens to be of the mouth, but is unrelated to typical dental issues like cavities and gingivitis etc.?

Anyone know?

rufus would know i bet. But i know there at least used to be real weird rules regarding insurance loopholes w/ riders.

For example If your a woman that doesn't have maternity coverage and you have a normal delivery you are on the hook for the bill. However if something catastrophic happened to you like you got into an accident and they had to get the baby out as part of an emergency procedure it would be covered without a maternity rider.

[DukeDelonte13]

I just did a google search for
ACA florida sliver plan

First link here (https://www.google.com/search?q=aca+florida+plan+silver&rlz=1C1CHFX_enUS525US525&oq=aca+florida+plan+silver&aqs=chrome..69i57.5745j0j7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8)

One of the points of the ACA is to standardize levels of care so consumers can actually shop around and know that the policies are pretty much the same.

Before the ACA, insurance companies made it very, very difficult to comparison shop.


Try dealing with brokers... UGH! They are all so full of sh*t. They quite literally f*ck your life up.

[Akrazotile]

where did you get the info ? i'd like to have a read at it


I don't wanna put too many specifics out there but I recently signed up for Obamacare myself and because right now I have low income, I got a dope plan on the CHEAP. I pay less than 1/4 of what the plan would normally cost, the rest is covered by a government tax credit.

And the fact of the matter is I have no excuse to be paying so little. And I don't even agree with the thing on principle! But if liberals want to FORCE me to pay for insurance, and then want to offer me the chance to be BABIED by the government... Hey? I'm not gonna be the only sucker who refuses to take advantage of it. And there are literally millions of people like me. Who really don't deserve such a steep discount, (which comes at the expense of the middle class) but will and do take it if you're gonna offer it.

IMO the main reason they passed this law is to force young people (who don't vote) to help pay for old people (who do vote). It's a political scam. The temporary bandaid effect makes it seem desirable because more people have health insurance and the average boob assumes the cost comes from nowhere or only the super rich are gonna end up paying for it. But so many young people like me qualify for the "awwww, he doesn't make a lot of money so let's not criticize and let's not be demanding and let's blame the evil rich people!!!!" liberal sympathy exemption, so really all the money that goes to pay for MY insurance, and some 85 year old dudes medicare, and fatass kevinnyc's liposuction and hip replacements and insulin etc.... COMES FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS. It just comes out slowly and indirectly, so that burden to the economy is out of sight and out of mind.

[niko]

I don't wanna put too many specifics out there but I recently signed up for Obamacare myself and because right now I have low income, I got a dope plan on the CHEAP. I pay less than 1/4 of what the plan would normally cost, the rest is covered by a government tax credit.

And the fact of the matter is I have no excuse to be paying so little. And I don't even agree with the thing on principle! But if liberals want to FORCE me to pay for insurance, and then want to offer me the chance to be BABIED by the government... Hey? I'm not gonna be the only sucker who refuses to take advantage of it. And there are literally millions of people like me. Who really don't deserve such a steep discount, (which comes at the expense of the middle class) but will and do take it if you're gonna offer it.

IMO the main reason they passed this law is to force young people (who don't vote) to help pay for old people (who do vote). It's a political scam. The temporary bandaid effect makes it seem desirable because more people have health insurance and the average boob assumes the cost comes from nowhere or only the super rich are gonna end up paying for it. But so many young people like me qualify for the "awwww, he doesn't make a lot of money so let's not criticize and let's not be demanding and let's blame the evil rich people!!!!" liberal sympathy exemption, so really all the money that goes to pay for MY insurance, and some 85 year old dudes medicare, and fatass kevinnyc's liposuction and hip replacements and insulin etc.... COMES FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS. It just comes out slowly and indirectly, so that burden to the economy is out of sight and out of mind.

No one assumes the cost comes from nowhere. You assume people think that because you are a leach on society. Those of us who are not leaches (if you're balding and asking mommy for money that's probably a bad sign) have paid taxes, and know damn well where the money comes from.

[Godzuki]

Most of the time dental is never worth it unless you got a bunch of kids you gotta pay for.

Just keep your teeth clean, floss, and see your dentist every 6 months. If you do that you are spending at most 300 a year for 2 cleanings and one set of X-rays. If you can find a dental rider cheaper than 300 let me know. I'd sign up for that.


yeah i think people are going to be bamboozled with the dental packages. i read thru a lot of them and most of them only covered kids with most stuff. the higher ones covered adult checkups but not major stuff that i saw. my memory might be off but i think the lowest plan covering adult anything was like $50/month but again i could be getting it confused with the health side.

eithere way i didn't go with a dental, figure i'd pay out of pocket if i had to.

i feel like a lot of people signing up aren't going to underrstand how these plans work exactly. like they should've explained how the deductibles work then it becomes a copay. but it was all sort of bracketed without much explanation. People new to health insurance aren't going to get they have $4500 deductibles before their insurance even kicks in. and the only description of that was in the titling of the plans and at the bottom. with auto insurance for example just pay the deductible for your collision if its your fault and insurance takes care of the rest. with health insurance i believe you keep paying for that year until all of your doctor bills total the amount of your deductible, then your insurance will kick in where u will still have a copay. It just wasn't explained well.

i was also wondering how much better Kaiser Permanante plans were than Blue Cross Blue Shield, or the other companies i never heard of. they had the highest ratings even if their plans were more expensive generally.

there should be a site that makes it simpler or just tells people the bottom lines like why its worth going with KP over BCBS....or which is the best plan for a person making so much who see''s the doctor so many times on average a year. all of the explanatory sites i found seemed very generic to general info.

[Godzuki]

I've actually always been curious, if you had your teeth knocked out playin sports, or you slipped and fell, etc. would that treatment be covered as "dental" simply because it's treated by a dentist or would that be part of regular health insurance because it's really an injury that happens to be of the mouth, but is unrelated to typical dental issues like cavities and gingivitis etc.?

Anyone know?


i'm pretty sure its dental since a dental specialist has to do it. If you looked at the dental coverages its broken down into specialist categories like 'orthdontic', 'xxxxxxxx', 'xxxxxx' type of treatments if they're covered or not, most aren't.

[netsfan549]

I recently got laid off waiting to hear from medacaid =(. I search thru obama care cheapest one was 500 dollars

[Riley Martin]

I recently got laid off waiting to hear from medacaid =(. I search thru obama care cheapest one was 500 dollars

You'll either qualify for medicaid if your income is really low or nonexistant, or you'll qualify for a government subsidy that lowers your premium if you're below a certain threshold. I think it's around $45,000/year for a single male. If your income is above that, you'll be paying the full premium.

$500 for a basic plan does seem like a high premium, unless you're kind of old. A thirty year old should find plans starting in the low 200s. I would not want medicaid though. I've heard some horror stories.

[Godzuki]

I don't wanna put too many specifics out there but I recently signed up for Obamacare myself and because right now I have low income, I got a dope plan on the CHEAP. I pay less than 1/4 of what the plan would normally cost, the rest is covered by a government tax credit.

And the fact of the matter is I have no excuse to be paying so little. And I don't even agree with the thing on principle! But if liberals want to FORCE me to pay for insurance, and then want to offer me the chance to be BABIED by the government... Hey? I'm not gonna be the only sucker who refuses to take advantage of it. And there are literally millions of people like me. Who really don't deserve such a steep discount, (which comes at the expense of the middle class) but will and do take it if you're gonna offer it.

IMO the main reason they passed this law is to force young people (who don't vote) to help pay for old people (who do vote). It's a political scam. The temporary bandaid effect makes it seem desirable because more people have health insurance and the average boob assumes the cost comes from nowhere or only the super rich are gonna end up paying for it. But so many young people like me qualify for the "awwww, he doesn't make a lot of money so let's not criticize and let's not be demanding and let's blame the evil rich people!!!!" liberal sympathy exemption, so really all the money that goes to pay for MY insurance, and some 85 year old dudes medicare, and fatass kevinnyc's liposuction and hip replacements and insulin etc.... COMES FROM THE MIDDLE CLASS. It just comes out slowly and indirectly, so that burden to the economy is out of sight and out of mind.


i bet you signed up for a $4500-$6000 Deductible Bronze plan. In that case you're not going to see the doctor much because its going to be out of your pocket until you hit that deductible max before your 40% copay insurance kicks in. thats why all of the scare tactics by Republicans is BS. The major thing you're getting out of it is some big freak accident you now have health insurance for where the doctors will take care of you no matter what and even afterward you're going to likely have a 40% copay of that major accident billing.

but as for routine checkups and little stuff thats straight out of your pocket. Thats straight out of everyones pocket who has a cheap health plan. So its false that everyone is now going to abuse doctors because $4500-$6000 is a ton of money to poor people.

Its so ridiculous how much Republicans continually make shit up to scare everyone, and its really blatant lying.

[KevinNYC]

Kevin!!! Why the fvk didn't you tell me the deadline was yesterday!? You know I procrastinate.

If I get sick this year I'm counting on ISH to help me pay my bills


I was gong to tell you the deadline is today. But I was going to tell you in a couple of hours, closer to the last minute. Cuz I know you would just spend those hours looking where you keep your pens and googling "Bad Boys III trailer."

Why give you extra time to waste?


Also has Zach Galfinakis not gotten through to you?

[KevinNYC]

i was also wondering how much better Kaiser Permanante plans were than Blue Cross Blue Shield, or the other companies i never heard of. they had the highest ratings even if their plans were more expensive generally.

Kaiser's legit. Been around since WWII.

The separate Kaiser Family Foundation is one of the best sources of information on healthcare
http://kff.org/

[niko]

We're better than them because of our culture. We produce great films like bad boys 2.
And Bad Boys.

[KevinNYC]

I don't know at all what this part means. Or the part about pens. It says the deadline was yesterday and I can't sign up again until november
I can assure you the deadline is today.

[Godzuki]

Kevin!!! Why the fvk didn't you tell me the deadline was yesterday!? You know I procrastinate.

If I get sick this year I'm counting on ISH to help me pay my bills

March 31st, 2014
12:38 PM ET
21 minutes ago
Five things polling tells us about Obamacare
mug.steinhauser
Posted by
CNN Political Editor Paul Steinhauser

Washington (CNN) - It's deadline day for Obamacare.

Monday's the last day of open enrollment to sign up for health insurance and avoid a penalty, through exchanges set up as part the federal health care law, formally known as the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.

While there are sharp political disagreements over the measure, one thing's for sure: there has been more polling on the 2010 law than any other legislation in recent years. And the measure should be a major issue in the 2014 midterm elections, just as it was in the 2010 midterms and the 2012 presidential contest.



and even if u don't finish siging up today, there is a extension for those that tried to.

[ihoopallday]

No offense, but how don't you already have health insurance?

[Godzuki]

someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong of how health insurance deductibles and copays work. i am only going by when i had Blue Cross Blue Shield with a $1000 deductible awhile back and thats how it worked if i remember right.

i was surprised at how i was paying $150/month for that plan and BCBS never paid a penny while i had it because i never reached my deductible threshhold for each year if i remember right.

i think i might be forgetting something since its been awhile but i'd swear thats how it worked.

[Akrazotile]

i bet you signed up for a $4500-$6000 Deductible Bronze plan. In that case you're not going to see the doctor much because its going to be out of your pocket until you hit that deductible max before your 40% copay insurance kicks in. thats why all of the scare tactics by Republicans is BS. The major thing you're getting out of it is some big freak accident you now have health insurance for where the doctors will take care of you no matter what and even afterward you're going to likely have a 40% copay of that major accident billing.

but as for routine checkups and little stuff thats straight out of your pocket. Thats straight out of everyones pocket who has a cheap health plan. So its false that everyone is now going to abuse doctors because $4500-$6000 is a ton of money to poor people.

Its so ridiculous how much Republicans continually make shit up to scare everyone, and its really blatant lying.




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[KevinNYC]

someone feel free to correct me if i'm wrong of how health insurance deductibles and copays work. i am only going by when i had Blue Cross Blue Shield with a $1000 deductible awhile back and thats how it worked if i remember right.

i was surprised at how i was paying $150/month for that plan and BCBS never paid a penny while i had it because i never reached my deductible threshhold for each year if i remember right.

i think i might be forgetting something since its been awhile but i'd swear thats how it worked.
http://www.staysmartstayhealthy.com/insurance_deductibles

[Raymone]

An HMO? Sorry to hear that, Starface. :(

PPO is so much better.

[Akrazotile]

An HMO? Sorry to hear that, Starface. :(

PPO is so much better.


Maybe if you're 58 and have hypertension, arthritis, and kidney stones.

I've been to the doctor, like, twice in the last 5 years. The **** I care about hmo vs ppo for.



Obama hooked it the fukc UPPPPP son! Took a little more off the hardworking middle class family man's plate and plopped it down on mine. Did I ask for it? No. Do I deserve it? No. Do Democrats think this will get me to vote for them? Hell yes! But will it? LOL no.


But thanks for the freebie anyway, yall.



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[bdreason]

They have plans that start as cheap as $5 a month if you're lower income. The fine for the first year is only like $100, but you may as well sign up if you can get a plan for ~$10.

I believe the fine more than triples next year though.

[bdreason]

Also, I believe that even the really cheap HMO's provide free check-up's as part of the package. I could be wrong on that though.

[Shabba Ranks]

They have plans that start as cheap as $5 a month if you're lower income. The fine for the first year is only like $100, but you may as well sign up if you can get a plan for ~$10.

I believe the fine more than triples next year though.

can i get that plan ? i currently pay $25 per month but i live outside the country 6 months out the year and i'd much rather pay the $10 if im not going to use it anyway

[Akrazotile]

They have plans that start as cheap as $5 a month if you're lower income. The fine for the first year is only like $100, but you may as well sign up if you can get a plan for ~$10.

I believe the fine more than triples next year though.



Basically just another way to pay off certain voters (the elderly) whose costs are relatively managed by the coerced redistribution of younger middle class money. Either sign up for a plan or just hand the money over, either way a young healthy person is responsible for expensive ass treatment of 90 year old cripples with dimentia who can't urinate without assistance. These old mu****az will crawl on their vericose, arthritic hands and knees to the polls. Obamacare is about BUYING THEM OFF.

Thats what Democratic politics is. It's about finding ways to keep the government in power and adding more power to the government. Instead of using the sword, they simply use the carrot. As smart as the average liberal turd thinks he is, the worlds powerful elite are 100x smarter, and manipulate his emotional pansy ass with the greatest of ease. And he gets to walk around wearing his girly over-sensitivity loudly and proudly like a badge of intellectual honor, finally giving him a much sought after sense of identity and esteem and belonging. So he is satisfied.


Real talk. Deal with it.

[KevinNYC]

yes I thought it was april first for some reason.

Gonna buy so much insurance.

APRIL FOOLS!

It was totally yesterday, you're ****ed! GOT YOU!

[Levity]

Damn, how are you guys paying so little? did you all qualify for a subsidy? the "bronze" plans offered to me started at $100 a month. Silver $130 and those are HMO's or EPO's with a 6k deductable, but i believe the deductable is wavied for my first 3 pcp visits each year.

i never go to the doctor, so deductables arent much on an issue. but if i do ever get hurt, its going to be pricey. but i also have supplemental insurance through aflac that i signed up with through work.

[MightyWhitey]

they'd be getting health insurance for free or for like a $1/month on the cheapest bronze plan.

only catch is they have a huge deductible so its not like they're going to be able to go in for checkups and things like that without paying. beggars can't be choosers tho.

the scare tactics of the Republican party are for the most part outright lies(like usual). most people aren't going to be seeing the doctor all of a sudden for little stuff since the way the plans work is you have to pay these gigantic deductibles before the insurance can kick in. its good for major stuff that happens out of nowhere tho but you're still responsible for like 30-40% of it, at least you're covered to a large extent.
I beg to differ. http://obamalies.net/ What about the millions of people who lost their healthcare http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/01/its-official-obamacare-debuts-with-more-cancelled-plans-than-enrollments/ something the GOP said would happen. Obamacare is a tax on the people. Why on Earth are you stating that the Republican party are using scare tactics when in fact what they have stated has come to fruition. Watch out for the next round of elections. Dem's go bye-bye and GOP will sit in the drivers seat. BTW Obama is pretty good using a scare tactic himself - http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/obama-russia-new-york-nuke-105007.html a nuke in NYC,,,,:facepalm very good Obama :applause: Putin 1,782 Spineless Obama -17.

[nathanjizzle]

if you guys cant sign up online, visit a location. they will be open pretty late today since its the last day.

[secund2nun]

This fascist garbage Obamacare needs to be trashed. Give us a single payer system.

Take the fine its only 95 dollars for the first year. It's a lot better than being ripped off paying for some garbage bronze plan that has such a high deductible that it's not even insurance.

[Levity]

if you guys cant sign up online, visit a location. they will be open pretty late today since its the last day.

i think if you just apply today (sign up with your name, address and social), theyll give you another 2 weeks to finish up your registration due to the overwhelming amount of last minute applicants.

[KevinNYC]

Think I'm just gonna take the penalty anyhow

you got me if I catch cancer right?
Do you mean, will I use my Hollywood Connections to get Will Smith and Martin Lawrence to take time out from recording the Blu Ray extras to film a little shout out to you that a nurse can show you on a laptop? Yes I will.

They told me they would have been up for visit until they found out you were uninsured.

[ALBballer]

Damn, how are you guys paying so little? did you all qualify for a subsidy? the "bronze" plans offered to me started at $100 a month. Silver $130 and those are HMO's or EPO's with a 6k deductable, but i believe the deductable is wavied for my first 3 pcp visits each year.

i never go to the doctor, so deductables arent much on an issue. but if i do ever get hurt, its going to be pricey. but i also have supplemental insurance through aflac that i signed up with through work.

I wonder the same thing. I went to sign up for my father who has in his early 50's and prices were around $300 a month and I think he qualified for the subsidy.

I currently pay around $130 a month and that's with my job contributing much more. I'm no expert but I guess the taxpayers will be funding the difference for some of these plans...

[Godzuki]

Basically just another way to pay off certain voters (the elderly) whose costs are relatively managed by the coerced redistribution of younger middle class money. Either sign up for a plan or just hand the money over, either way a young healthy person is responsible for expensive ass treatment of 90 year old cripples with dimentia who can't urinate without assistance. These old mu****az will crawl on their vericose, arthritic hands and knees to the polls. Obamacare is about BUYING THEM OFF.

Thats what Democratic politics is. It's about finding ways to keep the government in power and adding more power to the government. Instead of using the sword, they simply use the carrot. As smart as the average liberal turd thinks he is, the worlds powerful elite are 100x smarter, and manipulate his emotional pansy ass with the greatest of ease. And he gets to walk around wearing his girly over-sensitivity loudly and proudly like a badge of intellectual honor, finally giving him a much sought after sense of identity and esteem and belonging. So he is satisfied.


Real talk. Deal with it.

you have to have parents or grand parents right?

even you will reach a age where you can't work much anymore and need assisted living.

there is no way old people could survive without government help.

[brantonli]

This fascist garbage Obamacare needs to be trashed. Give us a single payer system.

Take the fine its only 95 dollars for the first year. It's a lot better than being ripped off paying for some garbage bronze plan that has such a high deductible that it's not even insurance.


I've read papers that routinely show people pay way, way more than they should actuarially. We are terrible at judging small probabilities (like serious illnesses), and in general you're better off with an insurance plan with high deductibles and lower premiums.

[Godzuki]

This fascist garbage Obamacare needs to be trashed. Give us a single payer system.

Take the fine its only 95 dollars for the first year. It's a lot better than being ripped off paying for some garbage bronze plan that has such a high deductible that it's not even insurance.

they're paying more for the fine than they'd pay for insurance. and if they get hurt bad by any freak accident they're screwed.

i know a guy who was Republican but didn't really follow stuff, he was a roofer but retired and would talk a lot of stuff about Obama and Dem's even tho he followed very little politics. he just got a heart attack with no health insurance like 2 weeks ago where the doctors saved his ass by signing him up for Obamacare for like a $20-30k surgery. its just funny how people are like that and there are so many people i meet in the working world that despise Obama and his policies but benefit the most from Obamacare. Its really funny to me how people are in this world.

also corporate greed does not work for the best interests of the people. its painfully obvious at this point how the private sector can't be trusted and its ridiculous people keep pretending that. there are so many examples by now how much people end up raped and bamboozled under free market policies.

[KevinNYC]

I beg to differ. http://obamalies.net/ What about the millions of people who lost their healthcare

The vast majority of them just got a different policy. (http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-obamacare-uninsured-national-20140331,0,5472960.story#axzz2xa8Nscyh)

Fewer than a million people who had health plans in 2013 are now uninsured because their plans were canceled for not meeting new standards set by the law, the Rand survey indicates.
Republican critics of the law have suggested that the cancellations last fall have led to a net reduction in coverage.
That is not supported by survey data or insurance companies, many of which report they have retained the vast majority of their 2013 customers by renewing old policies, which is permitted in about half the states, or by moving customers to new plans.
"We are talking about a very small fraction of the country" who lost coverage, said Katherine Carman, a Rand economist who is overseeing the survey.
Rand has been polling 3,300 Americans monthly about their insurance choices since last fall. Researchers found that the share of adults ages 18 to 64 without health insurance has declined from 20.9% last fall to 16.6% as of March 22.
The decrease parallels a similar drop recorded by Gallup, which found in its national polling that the uninsured rate among adults had declined from 18% in the final quarter of last year to 15.9% through the first two months of 2014. Gallup's overall uninsured rate is lower than Rand's because it includes seniors on Medicare.
Gallup Editor in Chief Frank Newport said that March polling, which has not been released yet, indicates the uninsured rate has declined further.
"While it is important to be cautious, the logical conclusion is that the law is having an effect," he said.



Obama is pretty good using a scare tactic himself - http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/obama-russia-new-york-nuke-105007.html a nuke in NYC,,,,:facepalm

Yeah, what a crazy thing to say at the 2014 Nuclear Security Summit. He must be the only person who cares about this stuff. I bet he's totally isolated on this lunacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Nuclear_Security_Summit)
Delegations from 53 countries, including the leaders of the U.S., China and Japan, have started to arrive in the Hague. They will meet to negotiate on reducing and securing supplies, and keeping them out of terrorists’ hands. https://www.nss2014.com/sites/default/files/styles/nss_slideshow_big/public/images/slides/leaders_group_photo_1222x650_0.jpg

[secund2nun]

I've read papers that routinely show people pay way, way more than they should actuarially. We are terrible at judging small probabilities (like serious illnesses), and in general you're better off with an insurance plan with high deductibles and lower premiums.

Or we could have low premiums and low deductibles, which is far superior than Obamacare. There is no benefit to a high deductible aside from if you are a insurance or big pharma company. Also Obamacare has high premiums for most people. My friend only makes 28000 a year and according to the exchange he has to pay 160 dollars a month including the subsidy for the shitty bronze plan. That is outrageous and he is not even middle class yet the plan is gouging him.

This bill is strictly to increase the profits of the big pharma companies. We need a single payer system like the European countries have.

[secund2nun]

they're paying more for the fine than they'd pay for insurance. and if they get hurt bad by any freak accident they're screwed.

i know a guy who was Republican but didn't really follow stuff, he was a roofer but retired and would talk a lot of stuff about Obama and Dem's even tho he followed very little politics. he just got a heart attack with no health insurance like 2 weeks ago where the doctors saved his ass by signing him up for Obamacare for like a $20-30k surgery. its just funny how people are like that and there are so many people i meet in the working world that despise Obama and his policies but benefit the most from Obamacare. Its really funny to me how people are in this world.

also corporate greed does not work for the best interests of the people. its painfully obvious at this point how the private sector can't be trusted and its ridiculous people keep pretending that. there are so many examples by now how much people end up raped and bamboozled under free market policies.

See my post above of how my friend who earns 28000 a year has to pay 160 a month for the shitty bronze plan. Obamacare is facism, but then again Obama is a fascist himself (but pretends to be socialist) who works for the big banks and big corporations.

Obamacare was made to increase big pharma profits. It is not socialism at all. I agree that the free market needs to get out of the health care industry, but Obamacare forces you to buy overpriced private insurance from private for profit insurance companies that earn billions a year. Obamacare is corporate greed.

A single payer system is a real socialist system that gets profit out of the way and benefits the lower and middle class. Obamacare hurts the middle class and even hurts the upper lower class. The main people who benefit from Obamacare are the people who make 14000- lower 20000s a year. Most people making more than that gets screwed like my friend.

Obamacare is no different than the health care system Romney put up in Massachusetts as Governor.

[KevinNYC]

See my post above of how my friend who earns 28000 a year has to pay 160 a month for the shitty bronze plan. Obamacare is facism, but then again Obama is a fascist himself (but pretends to be socialist) who works for the big banks and big corporations.

Obamacare was made to increase big pharma profits. It is not socialism at all. I agree that the free market needs to get out of the health care industry, but Obamacare forces you to buy overpriced private insurance from private for profit insurance companies that earn billions a year. Obamacare is corporate greed.

A single payer system is a real socialist system that gets profit out of the way and benefits the lower and middle class. Obamacare hurts the middle class and even hurts the upper lower class. The main people who benefit from Obamacare are the people who make 14000- lower 20000s a year. Most people making more than that gets screwed like my friend.

Obamacare is no different than the health care system Romney put up in Massachusetts as Governor.

Also Illuminati.

[johndeeregreen]

I haven't lived in the US in going on 5 years, so I haven't really been paying attention to this. I was under the impression "Obamacare" was a blanket term for some sort of socially funded healthcare system, in the vein of what we have here in Canada. But let me get this straight - "Obamacare" is forcing citizens to sign up for healthcare from private companies? Is that the gist of it?

[Raymone]

This fascist garbage Obamacare needs to be trashed. Give us a single payer system.

Take the fine its only 95 dollars for the first year. It's a lot better than being ripped off paying for some garbage bronze plan that has such a high deductible that it's not even insurance.

The fine is 1% of your gross income or $95; whichever is higher. Unless you're poor as **** making four figures a year, you're paying more than that.

[Akrazotile]

I haven't lived in the US in going on 5 years, so I haven't really been paying attention to this. I was under the impression "Obamacare" was a blanket term for some sort of socially funded healthcare system, in the vein of what we have here in Canada. But let me get this straight - "Obamacare" is forcing citizens to sign up for healthcare from private companies? Is that the gist of it?


Yep.

To my knowledge, in the history of the Constitution, a citizen has never been technically FORCED to do anything just because he literally exists within the US borders. There are plenty of things you are prohibited from doing, but nothing that the federal government can force you to do just because you exist.


Until now.




Barry done changed the game.

[Godzuki]

Or we could have low premiums and low deductibles, which is far superior than Obamacare. There is no benefit to a high deductible aside from if you are a insurance or big pharma company. Also Obamacare has high premiums for most people. My friend only makes 28000 a year and according to the exchange he has to pay 160 dollars a month including the subsidy for the shitty bronze plan. That is outrageous and he is not even middle class yet the plan is gouging him.

This bill is strictly to increase the profits of the big pharma companies. We need a single payer system like the European countries have.


the problem with low premiums and low deductibles is over abuse and over crowding, and i'd assume a LOT more government subsidy needed to fund it.

high deductibles deter overuse, but at least cover people in the case of catastrophe.

[DukeDelonte13]

why are we forced to have car insurance? F*cking government.

[Godzuki]

I haven't lived in the US in going on 5 years, so I haven't really been paying attention to this. I was under the impression "Obamacare" was a blanket term for some sort of socially funded healthcare system, in the vein of what we have here in Canada. But let me get this straight - "Obamacare" is forcing citizens to sign up for healthcare from private companies? Is that the gist of it?


i think a lot of people thought that.

That system would be very difficult to impossible to implement here outright tho since doctors would be over flooded i'd figure.

i think this is a first step. Government couldn't just socialize doctors in this country anyways.

[Akrazotile]

the problem with low premiums and low deductibles is over abuse and over crowding, and i'd assume a LOT more government subsidy needed to fund it.

high deductibles deter overuse, but at least cover people in the case of catastrophe.


In a healthier and smarter world, I'm ok with things like this.


But we continue to allow many Americans (especially low income Americans) to drive up costs by being unhealthy as fukc, and then we force the middle class to pay bc libs think with their vag instead of their head and never ever ever ever ever ever ever insist that low income people be accountable for ANYTHING. Literally anything. Libs just want to play rescuer. So no matter HOW MUCH money it costs to put bandaids on low income irresponsibility, libs cry and cry for it.


Let the illiterate drug dependent mother have kid after kid after kid after kid after kid after kid after kid and make the stupid evil meanie middle class jerk pay for it! ITS ONLY FAIR, OMGZ IM SO SMART U GUYS LOOK HOW COOL AND COMPASSINATE I LOOK. EVER1 RECOGNIZE ME PLZ.

[Akrazotile]

why are we forced to have car insurance? F*cking government.


:facepalm Youre not. There's no law requiring every American have car insurance or face a penalty. :hammerhead:

[BGriffin's Dad]

:facepalm Youre not. There's no law requiring every American have car insurance or face a penalty. :hammerhead:

to drive a car, there is.. so to drive your body (aka live) you need to carry some health insurance now.

[DukeDelonte13]

:facepalm Youre not. There's no law requiring every American have car insurance or face a penalty. :hammerhead:


If you drive you need financial responsibility.

If you go to the hospital you need financial responsibility.

[Godzuki]

In a healthier and smarter world, I'm ok with things like this.


But we continue to allow many Americans (especially low income Americans) to drive up costs by being unhealthy as fukc, and then we force the middle class to pay bc libs think with their vag instead of their head and never ever ever ever ever ever ever insist that low income people be accountable for ANYTHING. Literally anything. Libs just want to play rescuer. So no matter HOW MUCH money it costs to put bandaids on low income irresponsibility, libs cry and cry for it.


Let the illiterate drug dependent mother have kid after kid after kid after kid after kid after kid after kid and make the stupid evil meanie middle class jerk pay for it! ITS ONLY FAIR, OMGZ IM SO SMART U GUYS LOOK HOW COOL AND COMPASSINATE I LOOK. EVER1 RECOGNIZE ME PLZ.


i do think dem's over do social welfare but i also think there are a lot more legitimate cases where people need help than the examples people make where people are abusive of that need.

i mean they need to do something about food stamp abuse, long term unemployment programs, and things like that but health care is something everyone should have. I don't even think Obamacare is ideal but a decent first step i guess. natonal healthcare like Canada would be much more ideal but that isn't going to happen overnight here.

[Godzuki]

:facepalm Youre not. There's no law requiring every American have car insurance or face a penalty. :hammerhead:


everyone is forced to have liability car insurance or they're illegally driving.

if not people would be wacking other people and people getting wacked would get screwed all over the place. States already cover some of those situations w/ illegal drivers thru automobile funds but if everyone weren't forced to have liability i can't imagine how many people would be screwed when they got hit.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

You don't have to have car insurance in New Hampshire.

[KevinNYC]

Yep.

To my knowledge, in the history of the Constitution, a citizen has never been technically FORCED to do anything just because he literally exists within the US borders. There are plenty of things you are prohibited from doing, but nothing that the federal government can force you to do just because you exist.


Until now.




Barry done changed the game.

Um, no.

http://www.politifact.com/rhode-island/statements/2012/jan/13/einer-elhauge/harvard-law-professor-says-early-congress-mandated/

[Godzuki]

You don't have to have car insurance in New Hampshire.


i didn't know that. i guess there are a lot of automotive law suits there then?

i can't imagine the state paying for every accident where the person who caused it can't afford the repairs costs.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

i didn't know that. i guess there are a lot of automotive law suits there then?

i can't imagine the state paying for every accident where the person who caused it can't afford the repairs costs.
You have to prove you can pay for damages if you do get into an accident. Not sure how that's determined.

[IamRAMBO24]

What if you already have health insurance from your workplace?

[secund2nun]

The fine is 1% of your gross income or $95; whichever is higher. Unless you're poor as **** making four figures a year, you're paying more than that.

Dammit...Fobama.

[secund2nun]

I haven't lived in the US in going on 5 years, so I haven't really been paying attention to this. I was under the impression "Obamacare" was a blanket term for some sort of socially funded healthcare system, in the vein of what we have here in Canada. But let me get this straight - "Obamacare" is forcing citizens to sign up for healthcare from private companies? Is that the gist of it?

Yes. That is exactly what it is. It is sad. Polls showed that 60-70% of Americans supported a single payer system, but Obama did not even put that on the table because he is a fascist. Then they could have at least put a public option in Obamacare, but nope Mr. fascist didn't even do that. The "liberals" in America are nothing more than phony pro-business fascists who would be labeled as that if they were in Canada or Europe.

[secund2nun]

the problem with low premiums and low deductibles is over abuse and over crowding, and i'd assume a LOT more government subsidy needed to fund it.

high deductibles deter overuse, but at least cover people in the case of catastrophe.

Look at Europe. European counties spend a lot less on health care per capita than America does. The reason is that when you get the profit motive out of health care the health care industry can focus on preventive medicine, but currently because they are for profit companies they do not want to focus on preventive medicine because that would decrease their profits by a lot. It costs a lot more to treat a disease than preventing one. Also a single payer system greatly decreases administrative costs.

Health care spending per capita (% of GDP)

USA..............17.7%
Norway...........9.3%
Switzerland.....11.0%
Netherlands.....11.9%
Austria.............10.8%
Germany.........11.3%
France............11.6%
Luxembourg....6.6%
Ireland.............8.9%
UK..................9.4%

It goes on and on. America spends by far the most on health care because we have a for profit health care industry that does not want to prevent disease- it wants to maximize profit from disease by ignoring preventive medicine and charging outrageous prices for services and medicine. The same medicine we have can often be bought for less than half the price in Canada and Europe.

[bdreason]

I haven't lived in the US in going on 5 years, so I haven't really been paying attention to this. I was under the impression "Obamacare" was a blanket term for some sort of socially funded healthcare system, in the vein of what we have here in Canada. But let me get this straight - "Obamacare" is forcing citizens to sign up for healthcare from private companies? Is that the gist of it?


Essentially that's how it works. If you fall under a certain income level the government will subsidize your health costs though. I'm pretty sure Obama went this route because there's no way in hell that a bill trying to eliminate private health care would pass in congress. He'd have a better chance trying to reinstate prohibition. :oldlol:

[KevinNYC]

I haven't lived in the US in going on 5 years, so I haven't really been paying attention to this. I was under the impression "Obamacare" was a blanket term for some sort of socially funded healthcare system, in the vein of what we have here in Canada. But let me get this straight - "Obamacare" is forcing citizens to sign up for healthcare from private companies? Is that the gist of it?

There's a lot of things that went into the Affordable Care Act bill, including a bunch of cost saving reforms on the back end and other attempts to wring out inefficiencies, but yes, the basic plan was to work with existing American system of private insurance and never to set up a Canadian style system.
One of the architects of the law has just written a book with a title (http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2014/03/02/book-review-reinventing-american-health-care-ezekiel-emanuel/L6xZHuHt3Y9D9eNFKFcG3K/story.html) that makes clear his view that the US health care system was badly in need of reform,
Reinventing American Health Care: How the Affordable Care Act Will Improve our Terribly Complex, Blatantly Unjust, Outrageously Expensive, Grossly Inefficient, Error Prone System. He argues that America had the most expensive health care systems in the world and the quality of healthcare across the board didn't justify it.
[QUOTE]The first third of the book outlines in vivid and unsparing detail just how necessary it was to fix the broken American health care system. Prior to the enactment of the law in 2010, the nation

[DuMa]

****. coveredca wont even let me login. :facepalm

[KevinNYC]

Maybe if you're 58 and have hypertension, arthritis, and kidney stones.

I've been to the doctor, like, twice in the last 5 years. The **** I care about hmo vs ppo for.

Obama hooked it the fukc UPPPPP son! Took a little more off the hardworking middle class family man's plate and plopped it down on mine. Did I ask for it? No. Do I deserve it? No. Do Democrats think this will get me to vote for them? Hell yes! But will it? LOL no.

You seem to be of the opinion that we weren't already subsidizing your healthcare. That you being uninsured didn't affect what insured people pay. That's not the case.
The first thing to understand is that when people don’t have insurance, it hurts other people with insurance. (http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/10/truth-obamacare-already-insured)In fact, the uninsured affect the finances, quality of care, and availability of medical assistance to every person in a community, regardless of their insurance status.

This is the fundamental issue that too many people do not understand. There seems to be this belief among some that those who are uninsured simply go off and die somewhere, thus having no impact on the medical-care-delivery system in the United States. But the opposite is true—the uninsured have some of the most dramatic effects of any group on our nation’s health-care system.

Here’s why: they seek out care, but usually when their once easily treated conditions have blossomed into a serious illness. Because private doctors do not take them, and because free clinics are not readily available, the uninsured seek their care in emergency rooms......In fact, since emergency rooms are the most expensive forms of front-line care, the cost is very high, far more than the cost of a visit to a doctor’s office.

The cost of covering free riders such as yourself is around $50 billion a year. Insurance companies and hospitals pass this cost onto people with insurance and thus premiums cost about $1,000 more a year per family.

[sundizz]

I'm from Cali.

I make no money. I'm a grad student with mad debt (and I'm not getting health insurance through school..that nonsense is like 1k for 3 months or something). I don't have health insurance.

What will it cost me?
How do I go about this?
When do I need to do this by?

[kentatm]

Yes. That is exactly what it is. It is sad. Polls showed that 60-70% of Americans supported a single payer system, but Obama did not even put that on the table because he is a fascist. Then they could have at least put a public option in Obamacare, but nope Mr. fascist didn't even do that. The "liberals" in America are nothing more than phony pro-business fascists who would be labeled as that if they were in Canada or Europe.


lol wut?

He didn't put it on the table b/c there was no chance it would have passed.

Repubs would have filibustered and between Kennedy being on his deathbed, the purposefully obstructionist recount in Minnesota, and Blue Dog Dems it wouldn't have survived.

[MightyWhitey]

The vast majority of them just got a different policy.Yeah right http://www.politifact.com/obama-like-health-care-keep/ broken promises as usual and liberal apologists like yourself quick to spread his propaganda for him.





Yeah, what a crazy thing to say at the 2014 Nuclear Security Summit. He must be the only person who cares about this stuff. I bet he's totally isolated on this lunacy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Nuclear_Security_Summit) https://www.nss2014.com/sites/default/files/styles/nss_slideshow_big/public/images/slides/leaders_group_photo_1222x650_0.jpg
Wow, you're able to pluck a picture full of his comrades. And??? Isn't funny how he just NOW says something about a nuke in NYC???? Of course you're too busy counting and combing his cunthairs to realize your Stalin,,,oops I mean Obama is trying to change focus from his horrendous foreign policy which is failing in Europe as we speak.

[KevinNYC]

Yeah right http://www.politifact.com/obama-like-health-care-keep/ broken promises as usual and liberal apologists like yourself quick to spread his propaganda for him.Yeah, the link I provided had actual data and the link you provided doesn't refute it because they are saying two different things.

Obama promised you can keep your policy and that was false. (your link.)

However, that does not mean those people are now without insurance. The study I linked to found most of those people did get insurance, so they now have a different policy than they did. It doesn't mean they don't have insurance.
Wow, you're able to pluck a picture full of his comrades. And??? Isn't funny how he just NOW says something about a nuke in NYC???? Of course you're too busy counting and combing his cunthairs to realize your Stalin,,,oops I mean Obama is trying to change focus from his horrendous foreign policy which is failing in Europe as we speak.
My God this is stupid. His comrades? Or leaders from these 50 countries.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/2014_Nuclear_Summit.png/800px-2014_Nuclear_Summit.png
Including that big green one on the top right. Need a hint? Used to be the Soviet Union, now it's........

First you claimed it was a scare tactic, now you say he was trying to change focus. Yeah, why would he say that now? Perhaps he was at an international conference dealing with keeping nuclear material out of the hands of terrorists? A worthy goal that unites countries as disparate as Pakistan and India; Israel and Saudi Arabia and the US and Russia. That was the point of the photo. That's where he answered the reporter's question at the 2014 Nuclear Security Summit. (That was in the picture too.) Rational people recognized it as the topic at hand and it was only right-wing bed wetters that thought it was a scare tactic.

Comrades. :facepalm

[KevinNYC]

Isn't funny how he just NOW says something about a nuke in NYC????
The only way you can be surprised by that is if don't know the history of these summits. There was a Nuclear Security Summit in 2012 in Seoul. There was another one in 2010 in Washington and New York. Like a lot of things that the Breitbart crowd hates under Obama, this goes back to an initiative under Bush, the Global Initiative to Combat Nuclear Terrorism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Initiative_to_Combat_Nuclear_Terrorism) The summits were Obama's Idea to take the GICNT and build a permanent structure around it.
On July 16, 2006, Presidents George W. Bush and Vladmir Putin jointly announced the organization of the Global Initiative to Combat Nuclear Terrorism. The GICNT is a voluntary initiative aimed at fostering international cooperation in order to prevent terrorists from acquiring, transporting, or using nuclear materials or radioactive substances, to deter hostile actions against nuclear facilities, and to respond to incidents involving the use of radiological or nuclear materials.

[Droid101]

It's gonna cost me $79 every paycheck. :mad: :banghead:
Yeah but what is your deductible?

I pay quite a bit more than that out of each of my paychecks, but I have the equivalent of a Platinum plan that if I were to buy myself on the individual market would probably cost upwards of $1000 a month (family of 3).

It's worth it.

[Droid101]

Actually you just convinced me to check actual numbers.

Bi weekly I pay $81 for health and $7.50 for dental ($176 a month total). The health is pretty good. Free physicals, $250 individual deductible and $500 family and $1250/$2500 individual/family out of pocket max. And the deductible is waived and 100% coverage on most common doctor visits.