advanced analysis proves kobe > lebron

[swagga]

This is a cumulative, non per 36 nor per 48 nor per cockring bullshit analysis. Win shares just sum up the contributions of each player throughout their careers.

Regular season:
kobe has 172.99 win shares in 18 seasons
lebron ONLY has 167.08 win shares in 11 seasons.

source:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_active.html

Playoffs:
kobe has 28.26 win shares in 18 seasons.
lebron has 29.54 win shares in 11 seasons.
but 5 rings > contribution tbh, any kid at the park knows it.
source
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_active_p.html

So undisputed proof that kobe >>> lebron (3 carrets for each ring doe).

[TerranOP]

Don't need advanced analysis to know that OP = Ph@ggot

[Akrazotile]

Lebron surpassed Kobe during his second year in the league :confusedshrug:

[Im Still Ballin]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Lebron will be in dat 200's club with most likely Timmy D when it's all over while Kobe won't even be close.

[Dr Hawk]

Do the stats matter now?

[tmacattack33]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Lebron will be in dat 200's club with most likely Timmy D when it's all over while Kobe won't even be close.

I believe the OP knows this and he is being sarcastic.

Win shares is cumulative and Lebron is already basically tied with Kobe even though he's only been in the league 11 years as opposed to 17.

[swagga]

Don't need advanced analysis to know that OP = Ph@ggot

it's spelled ****

[Andrei89]

Lebron > Kobe since he won his first championship.

[nathanjizzle]

http://oi62.tinypic.com/mskj7s.jpg

[Prometheus]

This is a cumulative, non per 36 nor per 48 nor per cockring bullshit analysis. Win shares just sum up the contributions of each player throughout their careers.

Regular season:
kobe has 172.99 win shares in 18 seasons
lebron ONLY has 167.08 win shares in 11 seasons.

source:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_active.html

Playoffs:
kobe has 28.26 win shares in 18 seasons.
lebron has 29.54 win shares in 11 seasons.
but 5 rings > contribution tbh, any kid at the park knows it.
source
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_active_p.html

So undisputed proof that kobe >>> lebron (3 carrets for each ring doe).

I've never seen such comprehensive analysis.

[SexSymbol]

Great analysis.
Tell me again, what is winshares, and why shouldn't we care about stats, because the context is way more important

[swagga]

Great analysis.
Tell me again, what is winshares, and why shouldn't we care about stats, because the context is way more important

in short, a formula that rewards organized, efficient basketball, per possession, relative to your team.
Apparently going 6-24 while leading the team in turnovers and in fouls isn't something that socres really high.:oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

in short, a formula that rewards organized, efficient basketball, per possession, relative to your team.
Apparently going 6-24 while leading the team in turnovers and in fouls isn't something that socres really high.:oldlol:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[NumberSix]

Ape-rah-foos

[SexSymbol]

in short, a formula that rewards organized, efficient basketball, per possession, relative to your team.
Apparently going 6-24 while leading the team in turnovers and in fouls isn't something that socres really high.:oldlol:
Does great lockdown defense in the same game count positively into the winshares? Yeah, thought so.
And why did you forget to mention 11 fts made, 10+ points in the 4th Q, 15 rebounds for a frickin SG?

[Jlamb47]

Does great lockdown defense in the same game count positively into the winshares? Yeah, thought so.
And why did you forget to mention 11 fts made, 10+ points in the 4th Q, 15 rebounds for a frickin SG?

cuz he only pulls out the negative when its kobe but when discussing lebron wanna bring out the positives only

Im a fan of both players Lebron and Kobe but i have WAYYY more respect for Kobe due to Lebron being a cucci

ALL TIME GREATS WIN FOR THEIR TEAM

Kobe,Magic,Bird,Jordan,Duncan, even Wade,etc

Lebron? nah he left Cleveland to win with Miami like a loser
and a diva

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Does great lockdown defense in the same game count positively into the winshares? Yeah, thought so.
And why did you forget to mention 11 fts made, 10+ points in the 4th Q, 15 rebounds for a frickin SG?

Because he stole most of those rebounds from Gasol, and the free throws were gifted to him by the officials from soft touch fouls that Kobe is no stranger to.

[IncarceratedBob]

Kobe's win shares is actually 275.4 the 3rd highest in NBA history.

[Joyner82reload]

Wait, Durant has ALREADY surpassed Carmelo in WS's for his career? LMFAO

[AKA AAP 23]

Kobe's win shares is actually 275.4 the 3rd highest in NBA history.

This is why almost every Kobe fan on this board is capped at an $8/hr hourly wage in real life, they can't even come up with anything true.

[riseagainst]

Kobe's win shares is actually 275.4 the 3rd highest in NBA history.

:roll:

[swagga]

Does great lockdown defense in the same game count positively into the winshares? Yeah, thought so.
And why did you forget to mention 11 fts made, 10+ points in the 4th Q, 15 rebounds for a frickin SG?

why certainly lad, win shares is composed from offensive win shares and defensive win shares. Defensive win shares keep track of who is scoring how much and how effectively, even compared to his averages, and team average defense, etc. They basically say what is your defensive impact on your team.

For example the best defensive season from any active non-big player is lebron's(6.51) and he is only behind pippen's best season(6.77) in the modern era... seems he is a decent defender... unfortunately I'm too lazy to talk about kobe's best defensive season since he is not on any of the lists found here: http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/dws_season.html .. but we all know what a great defender he was so stats really don't matter :applause: god bless america son :bowdown:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

This is why almost every Kobe fan on this board is capped at an $8/hr hourly wage in real life, they can't even come up with anything true.

:lol

[swagga]

Kobe's win shares is actually 275.4 the 3rd highest in NBA history.

now son you'll have to come with a source more reputable then kobe's pants. We all know he has a history with them :roll:

[swagga]

i looked at the defensive win shares best 250 seasons and I understood why I couldn't find kobe there because other great defenders besides lebron reside there: paul george, paul pierce, loul deng.

Even this year's deandre jordan is more important on defense than kobe ever was:lol

[swagga]

btw how could I forget this? I feel ashamed embarrassed and saddened beyond belief.

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron because he cherishes his wife so much, did you guys remeber that absolutely exquisite, gorgeous and divinely supreme ring he gave her to celebrate their 5 year aniversary in 2003. It was so marvelous that it was all over the news.

[20Four]

btw how could I forget this? I feel ashamed embarrassed and saddened beyond belief.

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ....... >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lebron because he cherishes his wife so much, did you guys remeber that absolutely exquisite, gorgeous and divinely supreme ring he gave her to celebrate their 5 year aniversary in 2003. It was so marvelous that it was all over the news.
LeBRONZE is a chump who couldn't get it done on his own so he joined WADE'S team to win....no SUPERSTAR does that sh|t...fvck leBRONZE gorilla looking phagg0t

[ralph_i_el]

LeBRONZE is a chump who couldn't get it done on his own so he joined WADE'S team to win....no SUPERSTAR does that sh|t...fvck leBRONZE gorilla looking phagg0t

kobe piggybacked shaq and shaq>wade

[swagga]

LeBRONZE is a chump who couldn't get it done on his own so he joined WADE'S team to win....no SUPERSTAR does that sh|t...fvck leBRONZE gorilla looking phagg0t

crowded at mcdonalds today i take it. I feel for you, ish lets me relax too. It's 1st april so you need to relax more and smile. People are friendly and they love you. Life is beautiful.. There is no need to be upset.

God bless son.

[Prometheus]

LeBRONZE is a chump who couldn't get it done on his own so he joined WADE'S team to win....no SUPERSTAR does that sh|t...fvck leBRONZE gorilla looking phagg0t

Why all the bold stuff all the time? I feel like I'm reading an advertisement at a car dealership where they emphasize their prices or some shit.

[russwest0]

Why all the bold stuff all the time? I feel like I'm reading an advertisement at a car dealership where they emphasize their prices or some shit.

LeBron stan detected

[Prometheus]

LeBron stan detected

:wtf: Well it's no secret that I'm a LeBron fan; probably 75% of my posts are directed against his haters, defending him using level-headed reason. But I think a "stan" is like a biased troll who defends one player no matter what, and I also criticize LeBron all the time when he deserves it (definitely choked in 2011 Finals, played like dogshit against Boston in '08, been lazy on defense this year, etc.) so I respectfully disagree with you.

And my post honestly had nothing to do with that. I just honestly find it weird and gimmicky how that guy always bolds shit.

[russwest0]

using my advanced analysis I still can see that 5>2

[Crimsonrain777]

using my advanced analysis I still can see that 5>2

no one uses that archaic- ass analysis anymore. get with the times, chump:facepalm

[Prometheus]

using my advanced analysis I still can see that 5>2

http://www.thejrexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Robert-Horry.jpg

http://beta.realitychicks1212.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/espy-2008-derek-fisher.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1496730583/dennisrodman.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/basketball/nba/06/15/steve.kerr/kerr-resigned.jpg

[Deuce Bigalow]

Boiled down:

Kobe: 5
Bran: 2

[Prometheus]

Boiled down:

Kobe: 5
Bran: 2

http://www.thejrexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Robert-Horry.jpg

http://beta.realitychicks1212.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/espy-2008-derek-fisher.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1496730583/dennisrodman.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/basketball/nba/06/15/steve.kerr/kerr-resigned.jpg

Oh and by the way, 2002 doesn't count. Ref scandal was real, Kings without a doubt would have eliminated LA in 6 games. Kobe: 4 and it's not debatable. Bitch.

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://www.thejrexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Robert-Horry.jpg

http://beta.realitychicks1212.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/espy-2008-derek-fisher.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1496730583/dennisrodman.jpg

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/si/2010/basketball/nba/06/15/steve.kerr/kerr-resigned.jpg

Oh and by the way, 2002 doesn't count. Ref scandal was real, Kings without a doubt would have eliminated LA in 6 games. Kobe: 4 and it's not debatable. Bitch.
Did those players ever lead a playoff series in scoring? Win a scoring title? Win a finals mvp? League MVP? Make an all-nba first team?

If 2002 doesn't count then 2012 doesn't count because of a lockout and Stern vetoing the CP3 trade, or 2012 and 2013 rings both dont count because of teaming up.

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[Prometheus]

Did those players ever lead a playoff series in scoring? Win a scoring title? Win a finals mvp? League MVP? Make an all-nba first team?

If 2002 doesn't count then 2012 doesn't count because of a lockout and Stern vetoing the CP3 trade, or 2012 and 2013 rings both dont count because of teaming up.

Next

If rings only count when you've won a FMVP or a rsMVP, then neither of Kobe's '00 or '01 rings count either.

And a vetoed trade to a team that was already irrelevant, as well as a lockout season have nowhere near the level of impact that literally RIGGING a playoff series has. In the lockout year, Miami still had to win four playoff rounds. They beat a full-strength Indiana and Boston while missing Bosh, and then wiped the floor with a full-strength OKC who had just disposed of San Antonio. LBJ's rings are legit and you know it. Nice try though.

:cheers:

[SpaceJammeR]

:wtf: Well it's no secret that I'm a LeBron fan; probably 75% of my posts are directed against his haters, defending him using level-headed reason. But I think a "stan" is like a biased troll who defends one player no matter what, and I also criticize LeBron all the time when he deserves it (definitely choked in 2011 Finals, played like dogshit against Boston in '08, been lazy on defense this year, etc.) so I respectfully disagree with you.

And my post honestly had nothing to do with that. I just honestly find it weird and gimmicky how that guy always bolds shit.

:applause: :applause: :applause: