Jabari Parker expected to return to Duke

[fpliii]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24511294/report-nba-scouts-believe-jabari-parker-will-return-to-duke

:facepalm

Not that we were gonna pick high enough to get him, but now there's much less depth at the top.

With reports that Love would be happy in NY and Chicago (as well as LA), I think if we get the 5th pick or worse we have to trade it for him if the offer presents itself.

[LeGOAT]

Stupid ****

[LeGOAT]

Criminal ass NCAA at it again

[moe94]

http://i.minus.com/icNYfg.gif

[sammichoffate]

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-basketball/24511294/report-nba-scouts-believe-jabari-parker-will-return-to-duke

:facepalm

Not that we were gonna pick high enough to get him, but now there's much less depth at the top.

With reports that Love would be happy in NY and Chicago (as well as LA), I think if we get the 5th pick or worse we have to trade it for him if the offer presents itself.http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/GW_mh1OxD1U/0.jpg #FutureofLA :bowdown:

[fpliii]

http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/GW_mh1OxD1U/0.jpg #FutureofLA :bowdown:
I hope Boston doesn't get him. Hopefully he follows in the footsteps of Magic and Kobe, and forces his way to LA.

Next great Lakers guard. :pimp:

[Clyde]

Thought so....a good friend of his is was recruited by Duke....plus they got their ass beat by Mercer.

....ain't going out like that.

[RedBlackAttack]

This hurts the whole draft. Major hit.

[sammichoffate]

I hope Boston doesn't get him. Hopefully he follows in the footsteps of Magic and Kobe, and forces his way to LA.

Next great Lakers guard. :pimp::pimp: Honestly idk who to pick if he, Wiggins, or Embiid aren't available. Smart maybe?

[wally_world]

Im all for staying in school, but letting NCAA profit from this :facepalm

[Clyde]

This hurts the whole draft. Major hit.

And if Embiid stays in school, those bad teams best hope for a top 3 pick.

[Clyde]

Im all for staying in school, but letting NCAA profit of this :facepalm

huh??

[longtime lurker]

http://i.minus.com/icNYfg.gif

That's the reaction of all the teams that were tanking this year :lol

[RedBlackAttack]

And if Embiid stays in school, those bad teams best hope for a top 3 pick.
This draft is looking less and less stellar each day. It already hadn't quite lived up to its hype from a year ago. Now, it is starting to seem pretty average.

I guess we'll see.

This hurts the teams in the middle and late portion of the draft as much as the teams at the top. Now, guys that would have been going in the late lottery are going to be moving up.

[IncarceratedBob]

Why would he not stay? Worst case scenario he gets injured next year and is still a top 5 pick, win/win. He gets to cement his legacy and Duke and then jump to the NBA.

[RedBlackAttack]

Why would he not stay? Worst case scenario he gets injured next year and is still a top 5 pick, win/win. He gets to cement his legacy and Duke and then jump to the NBA.
See: Jared Sullinger, Perry Jones

[bdreason]

If you're a guaranteed top 10 pick, you declare for the draft, period. Someone is giving him poor advice.

[moe94]

Thought so....a good friend of his is was recruited by Duke....plus they got their ass beat by Mercer.

....ain't going out like that.

Is he scared he's not going to go top 2? :roll:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Good for him. He said he would stay if he felt they had unfinished business and staying in school backs up that statement. People should respect that.

[kaiteng]

Duke factor at work again.

Jabari ended his first college season healthy and he is with Duke. He is a guaranteed top 3 no matter which years he enters as long as he is healthy.

[IncarceratedBob]

See: Jared Sullinger, Perry Jones
Lmao, Jab is an elite prospect. He can take next year off and still be a top 5 pick the following year, there are like 10 teams tanking just for the chance to get him/Wiggy. Sullinger and PJIII were considered good prospects in weak drafts, they were never thought of as having JP's ceiling. I see your point, but no way is Jab falling past 5 next year at WORST.

[DuMa]

you mean we tanked for nothin?

[Clyde]

you mean we tanked for nothin?

odds of landing a supposed "great" player is falling everyday

[Jlamb47]

Prolly cuz he know Wiggins is going to get the number 1 pick and he wants to be number one next year. nah im jk
If he does stay with Duke i respect it

[Clyde]

I love this move.

In a few years 2 years of college will be mandatory anyways.

[bdreason]

Good for him. He said he would stay if he felt they had unfinished business and staying in school backs up that statement. People should respect that.


What unfinished business?

He's not going to get his diploma. He's not going to win an NCAA title. All that he's doing is losing a year of his professional career and risking millions of dollars (injury). A player of his talents is also hindering his own development by remaining an amateur.

[Goldrush25]

Why would he not stay? Worst case scenario he gets injured next year and is still a top 5 pick, win/win. He gets to cement his legacy and Duke and then jump to the NBA.

Well, the worst possible scenario is that he blows every ligament in his knee out. Under that scenario maybe some team still spends a top 5 pick on him but that's far from a guarantee.

[CelticBaller]

**** Parker I hope his draft stock goes to shit next year

[sammichoffate]

**** Parker I hope his draft stock goes to shit next year:oldlol:

[Clyde]

What unfinished business?

He's not going to get his diploma. He's not going to win an NCAA title. All that he's doing is losing a year of his professional career and risking millions of dollars (injury). A player of his talents is also hindering his own development by remaining an amateur.

They lost to mercer......they lacked a big man .....enter Jahil Okafor....problem solved.

Also when you have Coach K as a coach your development will be just fine.

[RedBlackAttack]

Lmao, Jab is an elite prospect. He can take next year off and still be a top 5 pick the following year, there are like 10 teams tanking just for the chance to get him/Wiggy. Sullinger and PJIII were considered good prospects in weak drafts, they were never thought of as having JP's ceiling. I see your point, but no way is Jab falling past 5 next year at WORST.
Everyone had Perry Jones as a surefire Top 5 pick in 2011 when he decided to go back. Here's the thread, which reads almost exactly like this one, minus PB's insane rants.

Perry Jones to return to Baylor next year (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=217446)

Same thing if you look up the threads when Harrison Barnes and Jared Sullinger opted out of that draft. Safe to say that all three made a major mistake in terms of draft position.

[Clyde]

the dude is obviously big but looks soft....hit the gym, prepare for the physical beating that is the 82 game NBA schedule.

[rufuspaul]

As a Tarheel alum this really ****ing sucks.

[Clyde]

As a Tarheel alum this really ****ing sucks.

:lol

try dealing with the beast that is Kentucky every year

[Patrick Chewing]

Duke will be a MONSTER next year. The team they have is sick.


And the tanking for the Knicks begins!!!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/Babich4000/aknick-dance_zps8828ada4.gif

[Jameerthefear]

What a ****ing moron.

[Clyde]

What a ****ing moron.

how so?

[Jameerthefear]

how so?
Take your money and run. Don't risk injury. Look what happened to Sullinger. What a jackass. Draft just got a hell of a lot weaker. Magic NEED a top 3 pick.

[Clyde]

Take your money and run. Don't risk injury. Look what happened to Sullinger. What a jackass. Draft just got a hell of a lot weaker. Magic NEED a top 3 pick.

Sullinger is still a millionaire.

It's better for the NBA product that these children stay in school more than a year.

It does kind of suck for the Magic, I hope they really do their homework.

[outbreak]

I hope Boston doesn't get him. Hopefully he follows in the footsteps of Magic and Kobe, and forces his way to LA.

Next great Lakers guard. :pimp:

I hope the lakers get him, the rockets need a new point guard.

[Clyde]

I hope the lakers get him, the rockets need a new point guard.


:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

....wait that joke is old and holds no validity.

[2LeTTeRS]

I live in Raleigh/Durham and not sure how reliable their reporters are (although they do devote a lot of time to ACC basketball) but the commentators seem to not trust that report.

[smoovegittar]

Good for him! Smart kid.
:applause:

[Clyde]

Quick what does Cameron Corner have to say on the matter?

[NattyPButter]

are these guys freaking stupid? What if they suffer a major injury...don't they think about that?

[longtime lurker]

Well can't fault a guy for going back to school, but if he's not going back for his last two years to complete his degree than WTF is he doing? Bad bad business move. If Embiid goes back to school(which I doubt he's not guaranteed at worst top 3 money) then this draft is officially weak as shit.

[Genaro]

With Embiid and Jabari out, if the Lakers don't get in top 3 things won't be good.

[Akrazotile]

This draft is looking less and less stellar each day. It already hadn't quite lived up to its hype from a year ago. Now, it is starting to seem pretty average.

I guess we'll see.

This hurts the teams in the middle and late portion of the draft as much as the teams at the top. Now, guys that would have been going in the late lottery are going to be moving up.


This actually might work out well for the teams at the top of the draft. Most of them are probably gonna be drafting in the same place again next year. This might give them a better chance of getting a difference maker two years in a row.

[Nash]

Nothing good will come of this. If he declares for the draft he will be a much better player by this time next year, he'll be on his way for his 2nd year which means more experience of the pro game and he'll be something like 5m richer + securing a big contract.

How is he returning? One more year playing super scrubs, risking injury, losing millions and risking his draft chances. If you want to be good in the pros you need to experience the pros, not playing scrubs in college while imagining how the pros will be.

[red1]

wow that sucks for tanking teams. what is he thinking

[Solefade]

finna go to vegas and bet on duke to win it all next year

[AirTupac]

Damn... Duke is going to be seriously stacked next season. Apparently they'll have the #1 PG, #1 Center and now Parker is back? :eek:

[Clyde]

Nothing good will come of this. If he declares for the draft he will be a much better player by this time next year, he'll be on his way for his 2nd year which means more experience of the pro game and he'll be something like 5m richer + securing a big contract.

How is he returning? One more year playing super scrubs, risking injury, losing millions and risking his draft chances. If you want to be good in the pros you need to experience the pros, not playing scrubs in college while imagining how the pros will be.

College girls, becoming one of the all time greatest Duke players....

...unless his leg falls off he's still going to get paid.

Shit, Noel tore an ACL and still went in the top 6.

[smoovegittar]

Duke will be a MONSTER next year. The team they have is sick.


And the tanking for the Knicks begins!!!!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y3/Babich4000/aknick-dance_zps8828ada4.gif
Hysterical!

[moe94]

College girls, becoming one of the all time greatest Duke players....

How is that worth staying an extra year? Are you saying he won't get girls as an NBA player?

[oarabbus]

wow that sucks for tanking teams. what is he thinking


You guys glad you aren't tanking any more? IIRC It was #RapsTankNation in the beginning of the season :lol

[red1]

You guys glad you aren't tanking any more? IIRC It was #RapsTankNation in the beginning of the season :lol
this has been quite the head-scratching season :lol

[Clyde]

How is that worth staying an extra year? Are you saying he won't get girls as an NBA player?

I was just being stupid.

I think as a player he should stay. He gets extra time to prepare physically and mentally, plus he is coached Mike Krzyzewski....the USA mens Basketball team. His best friend is going to join him at Duke, and provide that team with the missing piece (Dominant Center) so they may have a chance at a National Title.

I wont argue it's a bad business decision. He's leaving money on the table.

But like I said before, unless his leg falls off, he's going to be drafted high and be paid.

Maybe he has goals in life like winning in college?

He's obviously going to be in the NBA sooner or later.

[GrapeApe]

Maybe he likes college? Just because he has elite basketball talent doesn't mean he can't enjoy his youth like any other college kid.

[moe94]

I don't think staying at Duke is a great idea if the only reason you're staying is on the off chance you win a college title.

[christian1923]

Who cares about winning a championship against amateurs when you clearly belong in the pros?

Most important age in a players development is 18-20. Going head to head against pros every night and learning from them is the best thing you can do if you're talented enough. The college game is sh*t where 99% of the players don't amount to anything.
You'd be surprised how many people care. Are you american?

[Clyde]

Who cares about winning a championship against amateurs when you clearly belong in the pros?

Most important age in a players development is 18-20. Going head to head against pros every night and learning from them is the best thing you can do if you're talented enough. The college game is sh*t where 99% of the players don't amount to anything.

Maybe he cares......Get use to it.

Rules for draft eligibility are going to change with the next CBA.

Also to your going head to head point, most rookies don't even play every night.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Maybe he likes college? Just because he has elite basketball talent doesn't mean he can't enjoy his youth like any other college kid.
he can build a small college in his back yard if he feels this strongly about college.

[Clyde]

he can build a small college in his back yard if he feels this strongly about college.

dude :facepalm

[oarabbus]

Who cares about winning a championship against amateurs when you clearly belong in the pros?

Most important age in a players development is 18-20. Going head to head against pros every night and learning from them is the best thing you can do if you're talented enough. The college game is sh*t where 99% of the players don't amount to anything.


This. For example, Melo's worthless NCAA championship. Does anyone even think he'd be a NCAA champion if LeBron went to college for a year? :oldlol:

[christian1923]

This. For example, Melo's worthless NCAA championship. Does anyone even think he'd be a NCAA champion if LeBron went to college for a year? :oldlol:
Yeah dumbass. Lebron would have been a freshman the season after melo won his championship

[Clyde]

This. For example, Melo's worthless NCAA championship. Does anyone even think he'd be a NCAA champion if LeBron went to college for a year? :oldlol:

sweet...it at least took 68 post before Lebron's name was written.

not sure why's but that's ish

[Clyde]

Yeah dumbass. Lebron would have been a freshman the season after melo won his championship

Also.....burn!

[EnoughSaid]

Damnnn. Sucks for the league but Duke is going to be STACKED. They have the top recruit coming in with Jahlil Okafor, and the #4 recruit and best PG in the class of 2014 in Tyus Jones. Crazy.

[oarabbus]

Yeah dumbass. Lebron would have been a freshman the season after melo won his championship

They're the same age idiot. LeBron would have won an NCAA title at age 18/19 anyway.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What unfinished business?That's for him to decide. Whatever his standard is, if he stays at Duke he's not satisfied with what he and/or the team accomplished.


He's not going to get his diploma. He's not going to win an NCAA title. All that he's doing is losing a year of his professional career and risking millions of dollars (injury). A player of his talents is also hindering his own development by remaining an amateur.The bolded part is something you absolutely cannot predict. With him Duke would be one of the favorites though.

Development? He can develop as a player at either level, that's mainly about himself and his own work ethic.

Money? It's his to lose. Assuming he doesn't suffer a career-ending injury he's going to be a megamillionaire either way. If he's fine with the decision why should we be concerned about his wallet?

[christian1923]

They're the same age idiot. LeBron would have won an NCAA title at age 18/19 anyway.
Get out of the thread. You don't know what you're talking about.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Get out of the thread. You don't know what you're talking about.
:lol

[oarabbus]

Get out of the thread. You don't know what you're talking about.


Do you think it's a good idea for Parker to return to Duke?

[Nash]

That's for him to decide. Whatever his standard is, if he stays at Duke he's not satisfied with what he and/or the team accomplished.

The bolded part is something you absolutely cannot predict. With him Duke would be one of the favorites though.

Development? He can develop as a player at either level, that's mainly about himself and his own work ethic.

Money? It's his to lose. Assuming he doesn't suffer a career-ending injury he's going to be a megamillionaire either way. If he's fine with the decision why should we be concerned about his wallet?
What work ethic are you talking about? How is he going to work on his pro game without actually being in the pros? Will there be NBA talented SF's he can go against to gain experience in college?

You become better by gaining experience and doing, not sitting in the gym fantasizing about what the pro game is about while playing against amateur kids.

Also, Jabari Parker is 19 next year. A 19 year old Jabari Parker with NBA experience is much better than a 19 year old Jabari Parker with yet another year in college.

[Clyde]

What work ethic are you talking about? How is he going to work on his pro game without actually being in the pros? Will there be NBA talented SF's he can go against to gain experience in college?

You become better by gaining experience and doing, not sitting in the gym fantasizing about what the pro game is about while playing against amateur kids.

this is all kinds of stupid.

Thanks for the input, but seriously man.

was Tim Duncan going to have the same impact day 1 in the NBA if he had played only 1 year at Wake Forrest????

You can work on your game just fine in college. this is a fact

[christian1923]

What work ethic are you talking about? How is he going to work on his pro game without actually being in the pros? Will there be NBA talented SF's he can go against to gain experience in college?

You become better by gaining experience and doing, not sitting in the gym fantasizing about what the pro game is about while playing against amateur kids.

Also, Jabari Parker is 19 next year. A 19 year old Jabari Parker with NBA experience is much better than a 19 year old Jabari Parker with yet another year in college.
why would he be sitting in the gym fantasizing about something he can have whenever he wants instead of working on his J, handles, defense, athleticism and hitting wieghts.

[Nash]

this is all kinds of stupid.

Thanks for the input, but seriously man.

was Tim Duncan going to have the same impact day 1 in the NBA if he had played only 1 year at Wake Forrest????

You can work on your game just fine in college. this is a fact
I knew you would mention Tim Duncan, but he's a different story. Tim Duncan was still new to the game, same thing with Hakeem who picked it up at a later part of their life. Jabari Parker has been playing all his life and is clearly an NBA level talent and way too good for college.

[Nash]

why would he be sitting in the gym fantasizing about something he can have whenever he wants instead of working on his J, handles, defense, athleticism and hitting wieghts.
As if he won't do that in the NBA? With the added bonus if training with pros every day and going up against the best players in his position every night.

Stop it, please. In no sport in the world is a player who's too good for the youth leagues forced to stay there.

[chips93]

was Tim Duncan going to have the same impact day 1 in the NBA if he had played only 1 year at Wake Forrest????


well no, but had he come out 3 years earlier, then 3 years on, he would have had just as good an impact in that year, than he had in reality.

and he would have gotten paid for those 3 extra years.

[Nash]

Yeah, as if Tim Duncan wouldn't eventually become the player he become without the mighty college game. Jesus, I'd even say that Duncan would have been a better player if he somehow got to spend those 4 years in the pros instead of college.

[christian1923]

As if he won't do that in the NBA? With the added bonus if training with pros every day and going up against the best players in his position every night.

Stop it, please. In no sport in the world is a player who's too good for the youth leagues forced to stay there.
He could but what's the rush to go into the grown up world when it's always going to be there. He still has things to prove at duke. If his mentality was 1 and done no questions asked then he would have went to kentucky. Let him live. Going in 1 year early isn't going to make him any better of a player. He'll still only be 20 years old. Learning from Coach k is a lot better then whoever coaches the bucks or sixers.

[Real Men Wear Green]

What work ethic are you talking about? How is he going to work on his pro game without actually being in the pros? Will there be NBA talented SF's he can go against to gain experience in college?

You become better by gaining experience and doing, not sitting in the gym fantasizing about what the pro game is about while playing against amateur kids.

Also, Jabari Parker is 19 next year. A 19 year old Jabari Parker with NBA experience is much better than a 19 year old Jabari Parker with yet another year in college.
Parker is already more offensively skilled than the vast majority of NBA players his size, so your post makes no sense. He's been working on his game since he was a child will continue to do so. NBA competition may make his game develop faster but that's not a given. Do you need me to compile the long list of players that didn't develop much or at all after coming into the NBA? I'm not saying college is better than the NBA for development either, just pointing out the fact that there is nothing anywhere near as important to an individual player's development than his work ethic. The fundamentals of a jump shot, ballhandling, footwork, etc. does not change from one level to the next. The higher level of competition may (and also may not) drive him to work harder on his game and the NBA does not have the NCAA's stupid rules regarding player-coach contact. Those differences definitely do not mean he can't get better at Duke.

[CelticBaller]

Fvck NCAA

[KyrieTheFuture]

Oh what's this? Chad Ford? I'm gonna continue to live my life as if I didn't read this. I'll comment once Jabari actually says something.

[JohnFreeman]

This draft was always overrated.

[AnaheimLakers24]

hope he has a career ender. dumbass

[Milbuck]

hope he has a career ender. dumbass
:kobe:

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't think staying at Duke is a great idea if the only reason you're staying is on the off chance you win a college title.

The NBA will be there for him regardless. But playing in college and winning a National Championship is a one-shot deal at times.

[JohnFreeman]

I would leave and make millions :confusedshrug:

[christian1923]

I would leave and make millions :confusedshrug:
I'm sure duke already pays him well

[mr.big35]

stupid decision he should declare next season there might be a better player than him and he wont be top 5 player

[BIZARRO]

Nothing good will come of this. If he declares for the draft he will be a much better player by this time next year, he'll be on his way for his 2nd year which means more experience of the pro game and he'll be something like 5m richer + securing a big contract.

How is he returning? One more year playing super scrubs, risking injury, losing millions and risking his draft chances. If you want to be good in the pros you need to experience the pros, not playing scrubs in college while imagining how the pros will be.

Yeah, it really worked terribly for Tim Duncan, Michael Jordan, and basically almost EVERY other great player before 1996 who spent 2, 3, 4 years in college.

On a sidenote, I live in Chicago and Jahlil Okafor is absolutely incredibly sick big man. Dominant. Crazy good. This will give Jabari so much more perimeter experience, as opposed to all the time he spent in the post this year.

Happy for the move, though I was looking for Jabari to do some damage in the pros. Will just have to wait. But what a great kid and player he is. :applause:

[Eric Cartman]

NCAA = the biggest pimps of the 21st century.

[GOBB]

He could but what's the rush to go into the grown up world when it's always going to be there. He still has things to prove at duke. If his mentality was 1 and done no questions asked then he would have went to kentucky. Let him live. Going in 1 year early isn't going to make him any better of a player. He'll still only be 20 years old. Learning from Coach k is a lot better then whoever coaches the bucks or sixers.

Considering Brett Brown has developed players for the Spurs? Thats a silly statement.

Also the rush could be simple. Does he even take college serious or is bball his focus?

[christian1923]

Considering Brett Brown has developed players for the Spurs? Thats a silly statement.

Also the rush could be simple. Does he even take college serious or is bball his focus?
Sorry coach k > brett brown

So if he decides to stay that means his focus isn't basketball?

[Derka]

Milwaukee and Philly GMs flipping tables over right now.:oldlol:

[GOBB]

Sorry coach k > brett brown

So if he decides to stay that means his focus isn't basketball?

Great college coach but who is Coach K developing and getting ready for the NBA? You claimed Jabari could learn more under Coach K than Brett Brown. When in reality Brett Brown has harnessed and untapped talent. Guys like Tony Parker.

If he decides to stay and college isnt his focus just hoops? He might as well leave now. Pretty dumb to stay and in 2015 there are some legit big men who teams would take over Jabari despite his performance. Including Duke future Center Okafor who is huge.

[GOBB]

Milwaukee and Philly GMs flipping tables over right now.:oldlol:

Why? Wiggins is who the Sixers want not Jabari.

[christian1923]

Great college coach but who is Coach K developing and getting ready for the NBA? You claimed Jabari could learn more under Coach K than Brett Brown. When in reality Brett Brown has harnessed and untapped talent. Guys like Tony Parker.

If he decides to stay and college isnt his focus just hoops? He might as well leave now. Pretty dumb to stay and in 2015 there are some legit big men who teams would take over Jabari despite his performance. Including Duke future Center Okafor who is huge.
Barrier, brand, Ryan Kelly, jj reddick, plumlee brothers, duhon, singler, Gerald henderson, boozer etc..

Maybe, I can't see a guy this talented not going top3 this year, next year, or whenever. He's a face of the franchise talented small foward. He's got the size. He's no jared sullinger, he's got the skill, he no perry jones.

[smoovegittar]

This. For example, Melo's worthless NCAA championship. Does anyone even think he'd be a NCAA champion if LeBron went to college for a year? :oldlol:
What a fukkin troll. You really suck.

[Qwyjibo]

Why? Wiggins is who the Sixers want not Jabari.
Because they may not get a top 2 pick and it drops another talent out of the lottery which hurts Philly's 2nd lottery pick. If I'm at #3, I'd rather have Parker than Exum or Randle or whoever else.

Regardless if a team prefers Wiggins or Parker or Embiid, Parker not going into the draft hurts every lottery team.

Also, if this is true, Duke is the heavy favourite next year.

[ILLsmak]

Parker is already more offensively skilled than the vast majority of NBA players his size, so your post makes no sense. He's been working on his game since he was a child will continue to do so. NBA competition may make his game develop faster but that's not a given. Do you need me to compile the long list of players that didn't develop much or at all after coming into the NBA? I'm not saying college is better than the NBA for development either, just pointing out the fact that there is nothing anywhere near as important to an individual player's development than his work ethic. The fundamentals of a jump shot, ballhandling, footwork, etc. does not change from one level to the next. The higher level of competition may (and also may not) drive him to work harder on his game and the NBA does not have the NCAA's stupid rules regarding player-coach contact. Those differences definitely do not mean he can't get better at Duke.

Not to mention he may go to a terrible team and face that frustration. He may develop more off the court, but it's hard to say that a player at Duke is learning less than someone who is thrown out there for one of the shittiest teams in the NBA with a bunch of dudes who may not even pass the ball.

And what about the level of effort required to be good in the NBA? If he gets injured, he might get injured in the NBA, too, and dudes are gonna be talking about his contract... instead of being a top 3 pick he might be a lotto pick. If he gets his legs run over by a bus then his career is over either way.

If that's what he wants to do, he should be able to do it. Likely most of the people like LOL U DUM U GET INJUR are dudes who wanted to pick him up in the draft for their teams. That kind of invalidates their opinion.

I'd also like to see something about the maturation of the human body. Just like you're not supposed to start lifting seriously until a certain age, I wonder if an extra year in school (read: less srs comp as a teenager) would allow your body to mature and have a more fruitful career.

-Smak

[GOBB]

Barrier, brand, Ryan Kelly, jj reddick, plumlee brothers, duhon, singler, Gerald henderson, boozer etc..

Maybe, I can't see a guy this talented not going top3 this year, next year, or whenever. He's a face of the franchise talented small foward. He's got the size. He's no jared sullinger, he's got the skill, he no perry jones.

Coach K didn't develop them dudes. Especially JJ.

Jabari would go top 3 next draft but my thing is why wait? Go to the NBA. Better coaching and by that more focus on you as an individual to develop you as a player. Better training programs. Better competition. You dont need to worry about class, academics, tutors. You live, sleep, eat, shit bball. I'd rather do an internship dealing with my major than just going to class. Hands on, experience a taste of the real world I'm trying to get both feet in.

Noel with the Sixers is learning more about the game than he did at Kentucky. Brett Brown saw his jumper and changed it totally. Now I'm not saying Noel will become a good jump shooter but my point is the focus is there moreso than college. So dont highlight Noel as a shooter. Just peep that Brett is hands on with his development as a player. I think at the NBA level guys like Jabari will have access to this more than college. Instead of sitting in class, you can be in the gym working out with a coach on specific areas of your game. During the offseason you can work out with peers at camps and such. You can just live basketball.

Obviously you need a worth ethic and such. But you should get the point I'm trying to make. I just don't see any big benefits from staying in college when you're Jabari Parker. Go to the next level and work on your game. Elite players, better coaches to develop you. If he wants to play with his best buddy and win a title? So be it. He wouldn't be the first top prospects to stay for a title chance.

[GOBB]

Because they may not get a top 2 pick and it drops another talent out of the lottery which hurts Philly's 2nd lottery pick. If I'm at #3, I'd rather have Parker than Exum or Randle or whoever else.

Regardless if a team prefers Wiggins or Parker or Embiid, Parker not going into the draft hurts every lottery team.

Also, if this is true, Duke is the heavy favourite next year.

I wouldn't mind Randle over Parker if he were to stay. Exum? Different story.

Sixers would need a nightmare scenario where they go from 2 to 5. I dont see that happening. Wiggins, Embiid, Randle, so I guess if Sixers draft 4 then I could see the point of table flipping. So at 4 with say Exum there? I would rather Parker because I know nothing of Exum...sorry the same ole highlights vs other top talent isnt enough.

Duke would be definitely favorites if he stayed. Sheesh!

[christian1923]

Coach K didn't develop them dudes. Especially JJ.

Jabari would go top 3 next draft but my thing is why wait? Go to the NBA. Better coaching and by that more focus on you as an individual to develop you as a player. Better training programs. Better competition. You dont need to worry about class, academics, tutors. You live, sleep, eat, shit bball. I'd rather do an internship dealing with my major than just going to class. Hands on, experience a taste of the real world I'm trying to get both feet in.

Noel with the Sixers is learning more about the game than he did at Kentucky. Brett Brown saw his jumper and changed it totally. Now I'm not saying Noel will become a good jump shooter but my point is the focus is there moreso than college. So dont highlight Noel as a shooter. Just peep that Brett is hands on with his development as a player. I think at the NBA level guys like Jabari will have access to this more than college. Instead of sitting in class, you can be in the gym working out with a coach on specific areas of your game. During the offseason you can work out with peers at camps and such. You can just live basketball.

Obviously you need a worth ethic and such. But you should get the point I'm trying to make. I just don't see any big benefits from staying in college when you're Jabari Parker. Go to the next level and work on your game. Elite players, better coaches to develop you. If he wants to play with his best buddy and win a title? So be it. He wouldn't be the first top prospects to stay for a title chance.
How did he not develop any of those guys? Lol he coached most of them for 4 years :confusedshrug: listen to a guy like grant hill talk about all the things coachk did for him.

And you're probably right, he would learn a lot in the nba. I'm not saying it would be bad to go to the draft. I'm just saying that staying in college isn't a terrible choice for him either. Plenty of amazing players have stayed in college. Maybe mentally he's not ready for that grind yet. If he turns down millions he must have reasons that are very important to him.

[handbanana]

consider this also..
if he gets drafted 3rd this year, (and he will) he earns:
$3,689,700 $3,855,800 $4,021,800

but, if he gets picked 1st next year:
$4,753,000 $4,966,800 $5,180,700

and consider next contracts' increase depends on previous one etc.. so even when we talk about money, i'm not sure he should go pro this year, all other reasons aside.

[tragicbronson]

It's a good decision and more important it's his decision and you should respect it. Those guys are mad because their teams were tanking which is shameful btw and now this draft is not as stacked as it was supposed to be.

[Sarcastic]

consider this also..
if he gets drafted 3rd this year, (and he will) he earns:
$3,689,700 $3,855,800 $4,021,800

but, if he gets picked 1st next year:
$4,753,000 $4,966,800 $5,180,700

and consider next contracts' increase depends on previous one etc.. so even when we talk about money, i'm not sure he should go pro this year, all other reasons aside.


Who says he is getting drafted #1 next year? What if he injures himself, and drops out of top 5? You are also not considering that he is losing an entire year of his NBA career, that he can never get back.

[Clyde]

You are also not considering that he is losing an entire year of his NBA career, that he can never get back.

Whats your point?

[MMM]

Tanking teams aint mad
they can get Wiggins/Embiid and Parker in back to back drafts

[bdreason]

Sorry coach k > brett brown

So if he decides to stay that means his focus isn't basketball?


In College they have limits on the length of practices, and only play ~30 games a year... not to mention all the hours he will spend in class or doing homework.

In the NBA he will spend every waking moment working on his game, along with playing 80+ games a year.


If Parker wants to stay at Duke because he's having fun, that's his decision... but it's a poor one. If his goal is to win an NCAA title, he probably has a better chance at winning the lottery.

[Clyde]

In College they have limits on the length of practices, and only play ~30 games a year... not to mention all the hours he will spend in class or doing homework.

In the NBA he will spend every waking moment working on his game, along with playing 80+ games a year.


If Parker wants to stay at Duke because he's having fun, that's his decision... but it's a poor one. If his goal is to win an NCAA title, he probably has a better chance at winning the lottery.

:roll: :roll:

Oh...you're serious.

[zoom17]

It's a good decision and more important it's his decision and you should respect it. Those guys are mad because their teams were tanking which is shameful btw and now this draft is not as stacked as it was supposed to be.

:applause:

[The-Legend-24]

You know u ain't a real nikka when u rather stay in fvcking school than play in the NBA.

[hawksdogsbraves]

In College they have limits on the length of practices, and only play ~30 games a year... not to mention all the hours he will spend in class or doing homework.

In the NBA he will spend every waking moment working on his game, along with playing 80+ games a year.


If Parker wants to stay at Duke because he's having fun, that's his decision... but it's a poor one. If his goal is to win an NCAA title, he probably has a better chance at winning the lottery.

I agree with everything you said outside the bolded, if he comes back they will be the odds on favorites and preseason number one ranked team with the recruiting class they have coming in.

[Sarcastic]

Whats your point?


That staying in school probably won't make him more money.

[bdreason]

I agree with everything you said outside the bolded, if he comes back they will be the odds on favorites and preseason number one ranked team with the recruiting class they have coming in.


Kentucky was pre-season ranked #1 last year and they didn't even make the tournament. The NCAA tournament is a complete crap-shoot, even for a talented or highly ranked team.

[ballup]

Parker must love that college life.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Kentucky was pre-season ranked #1 last year and they didn't even make the tournament. The NCAA tournament is a complete crap-shoot, even for a talented or highly ranked team.

I wouldn't call it a complete crap shoot. Since 1985 number one seeds have won 18 championships. Number two seeds have won 4 times, the second most. College basketball is gaining more parity but is still terribly imbalanced at the end of the day. Duke was a number 2 seed this year and if Parker returned would almost undoubtedly be a significantly better team next season, unless of course Jahlil Okafor, (number one recruit, center, committed to Duke) breaks his leg or something.

So yeah, Vegas would probably give them better than the 4-1 odds it gave this year's Kentucky team, considering it would have the odds on favorite to win the Naismith Award in a returning Parker. Hardly a crap shoot.

[DoodleDa]

You know u ain't a real nikka when u rather stay in fvcking school than play in the NBA.

Pretty much this.

[tomtucker]

Uh, he has not made the decision yet !

.
Lets wait for the TV show

[bdreason]

I wouldn't call it a complete crap shoot. Since 1985 number one seeds have won 18 championships. Number two seeds have won 4 times, the second most. College basketball is gaining more parity but is still terribly imbalanced at the end of the day. Duke was a number 2 seed this year and if Parker returned would almost undoubtedly be a significantly better team next season, unless of course Jahlil Okafor, (number one recruit, center, committed to Duke) breaks his leg or something.

So yeah, Vegas would probably give them better than the 4-1 odds it gave this year's Kentucky team, considering it would have the odds on favorite to win the Naismith Award in a returning Parker. Hardly a crap shoot.


That doesn't change the fact that forgoing your NBA career because you want to try and win an NCAA championship, from a statistical standpoint, doesn't make any sense.

[lakers87]

I respect, but can't understand potential lottery picks for going back to school because if I was in their shoes, I would declare and not look back. For players of his caliber, his earnings potential is long-term, but from a fundamental standpoint, what is he going to learn from Coach K that he wouldn't going up against his pro teammates and gaining NBA level coaching day in day out?

People can say who cares about a lost year's earnings, but I can't see anyone in this forum or for that matter, in a capitalist society, forgoing a few million bucks. From a risk/reward standpoint, I really don't see his reward angle, unless it's to win a championship at the NCAA level, which, for all intents and purposes, won't have an impact on his legacy if he's a bust at the NBA level.

[9erempiree]

If he wants to stay then let him stay. I laugh at people crucifying him. He is a NBA talent and going to school for another year or finishing school is good for him. Some people have goals in life and money is not everything to him.

Lets face it, I rather stay at Duke and dominate and be big man on campus than a nobody in the NBA. Heck, Jabari is a lot popular than most NBA rookies. If he wants success at every level than kudos to him. Some people want to achieve things in life rather than just taking the money. Taking money is not an achievement.

Big dap to Parker if it is true.

Duke college girls >>>>> gold digging groupies doe.

[9erempiree]

People can say who cares about a lost year's earnings, but I can't see anyone in this forum or for that matter, in a capitalist society, forgoing a few million bucks. From a risk/reward standpoint, I really don't see his reward angle, unless it's to win a championship at the NCAA level, which, for all intents and purposes, won't have an impact on his legacy if he's a bust at the NBA level.

You would be surprised how many players that are a bust in the NBA but worshiped as college basketball legends.

You must be young.

[9erempiree]

Win-win situation for Parker. It doesn't matter if it hurts his draft status because he would be on his rookie contract playing for lottery teams no matter the position he got picked. Rookie contracts are not that much. He would have to prove himself for that 2nd and 3rd contract. If he ends up being a bust, then he has his great college legacy and something to remember his basketball career by.

If he ends up being a great NBA player, then he would have got that fat 2nd contract regardless what position he was drafted. Example? Paul George. Came from a small school, not drafted very high but ended up being a stud and got his money too.

If his draft status drops, so what, he would be going to a contending team or mid tier team in his rookie contract time frame to improve and earn a bigger deal. It is all good actually.

Staying in college hurts nothing.

[moe94]

9er, between acting like gold diggers won't exist in college to talking about him peaking in college as a reason to stay, you are a trip. I hope you really are trolling, for your own sake.

[9erempiree]

9er, between acting like gold diggers won't exist in college to talking about him peaking in college as a reason to stay, you are a trip. I hope you really are trolling, for your own sake.

You never went to college.:facepalm

[moe94]

You don't know me and what I've done nor does it address what I said.

I'm always about giving dummies the benefit of the doubt until they pretend like they're not talking out of their ass. Acting like you're not trolling just means you're retarded. You understand that's the alternative, right?

[9erempiree]

The fact of the matter is, an institution of higher learning such as Duke, with its strict admission policy, isn't a breeding ground for gold diggers. The female student body of Duke have a higher chance of earning a degree and making money than getting knocked up by some future NBA player.

Anyways, this isn't a deciding factor for the topic at hand. I was just mentioning it because somebody had said he should go get some ass in the NBA world, which I think is stupid.

[moe94]

Ironically enough, I jerked it to a Duke pornstar while waiting on your response. You can't write this shit, homie.

[Nash]

Also what people need to think about is that Jabari had a terrible tournament this year in college. Unless he blows everyone's mind and instead has a mediocre tournament yet again that will be 2 straight years of fail which isn't good at all.

Why risk all of that?

[tomtucker]

Ironically enough, I jerked it to a Duke pornstar while waiting on your response. You can't write this shit, homie.
Duke pornstar :confusedshrug:

[ZenMaster]

Duke pornstar :confusedshrug:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/18/article-2583675-1C60898500000578-35_634x926.jpg

[sejoon101]

How quickly things change.. went from everyone going a full 4 years of college then onto the NBA, to questioning a person because he chooses to stay in college...

Didn't we universally agree that players staying in college a full 4 years is better for the NBA, and prospects coming straight from HS or 1 year of college to the NBA waters down the league??

Now someone wants to stay in college, and everyone is giving him shiit? I don't understand..

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk158/sejoon101/Gary-Coleman-wtfgifpagespeedcegbfF4zp41-.gif (http://s279.photobucket.com/user/sejoon101/media/Gary-Coleman-wtfgifpagespeedcegbfF4zp41-.gif.html)

[9erempiree]

Also what people need to think about is that Jabari had a terrible tournament this year in college. Unless he blows everyone's mind and instead has a mediocre tournament yet again that will be 2 straight years of fail which isn't good at all.

Why risk all of that?

What isn't good about it?:confusedshrug:

Rookie contracts are nothing. If he ends up being an all star caliber player, he will get rewarded handsomely. Think of Paul George. Nobody knew who he was except from YT videos. He got a shit contract and proved to be a star and got that fat 90 million.

All this talk about being top pick is wishful thinking that he may be a bust and he should take the money.

I rather have a bust finish and have a great career in college than go the Kwame Brown route.

:facepalm

[sejoon101]

What isn't good about it?:confusedshrug:

Rookie contracts are nothing. If he ends up being an all star caliber player, he will get rewarded handsomely. Think of Paul George. Nobody knew who he was except from YT videos. He got a shit contract and proved to be a star and got that fat 90 million.

All this talk about being top pick is wishful thinking that he may be a bust and he should take the money.

I rather have a bust finish and have a great career in college than go the Kwame Brown route.

:facepalm

This..

Some of you guys on ISH are talking like somehow him risking a top pick in the 2015 draft, will hurt his rep/earnings.

You don't get jack from your rookie contract.

Anthony Davis is making 5~mill a year, while Ryan Anderson is making 8~.

Hell, being a bust after being so hyped and being high on the draft is much worse than being picked low then proceeding to get paid.

[Andrei89]

This..

Some of you guys on ISH are talking like somehow him risking a top pick in the 2015 draft, will hurt his rep/earnings.

You don't get jack from your rookie contract.

Anthony Davis is making 5~mill a year, while Ryan Anderson is making 8~.

Hell, being a bust after being so hyped and being high on the draft is much worse than being picked low then proceeding to get paid.

You dont get jack?

God, are you people this fking stupid?

5 million a year is not "jack" anymore ?

Stupid people everywhere. If Jabari somehow slips to, for example, nr 10 next year because he gets injured he will make 5 times less as a rookie.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Why are so many so upset about the risk Parker may (or may not) be taking? It's not your money, it's not your life.

[JellyBean]

I hope that he stays at Duke. That program would be off the charts next season with talent. Plus I am sick of hearing about how "the college game is suffering" because players are leaving ...pure BS. This season there is so much excitement in the college game because there are no clear favorites. This is great for college and the pros. Also, Parker has to do what is best for him and his family. But I hope that he stays so I can really amp up my Duke Basketball hatred.:oldlol:

[JohnFreeman]

I don't watch NCAA. Which teams should I watch apart from the obvious ones? Is it good basketball?

[Magic731]

The biggest argument against him staying seems to be the fact that he 'might' have a serious injury and lose a few million dollars... First of all this doesn't actually happen very often when you consider the number of prospects there are. Also let's get serious, you can't live your career or your life for that matter on the fear you may get injured. Why does any player even bother showing up after they get their contract then?

Let's not forget that we are not Jabari Parker. It may have been a goal of his to win an NCAA championship and he wants to achieve that. He had a shocking end to his college career is that really how anyone would want to go out? To us on the outside Duke his just his school but it's been his life the past year and if he has grown to love it I can't blame him for wanting to give better before he leaves. This guy wants an NCAA championship and good on him for actually trying to get it. He feels he has to redeem himself and if I'm a GM I feel this is a great quality for him to have.

I know it's not official yet but if he does stay I say kudos to Jabari Parker. Life is not all about money, if he wants to win a national championship then he should go out and do that. This guy is going to get paid one day regardless.

[christian1923]

The biggest argument against him staying seems to be the fact that he 'might' have a serious injury and lose a few million dollars... First of all this doesn't actually happen very often when you consider the number of prospects there are. Also let's get serious, you can't live your career or your life for that matter on the fear you may get injured. Why does any player even bother showing up after they get their contract then?

Let's not forget that we are not Jabari Parker. It may have been a goal of his to win an NCAA championship and he wants to achieve that. He had a shocking end to his college career is that really how anyone would want to go out? To us on the outside Duke his just his school but it's been his life the past year and if he has grown to love it I can't blame him for wanting to give better before he leaves. This guy wants an NCAA championship and good on him for actually trying to get it. He feels he has to redeem himself and if I'm a GM I feel this is a great quality for him to have.

I know it's not official yet but if he does stay I say kudos to Jabari Parker. Life is not all about money, if he wants to win a national championship then he should go out and do that. This guy is going to get paid one day regardless.
Exactly, these guys are just mad cause they want to see him in the league next year. So they can talk shit and write him off after 2 bad games lol

[hawksdogsbraves]

I hope that he stays at Duke. That program would be off the charts next season with talent. Plus I am sick of hearing about how "the college game is suffering" because players are leaving ...pure BS. This season there is so much excitement in the college game because there are no clear favorites. This is great for college and the pros. Also, Parker has to do what is best for him and his family. But I hope that he stays so I can really amp up my Duke Basketball hatred.:oldlol:

No clear favorites? Florida has been ranked number one since February are the favorite to win the championship. How more clear cut can it get?

UConn and Kentucky, the 'upset picks' in the final 4, are legit blueblood programs with NBA talent. Hell, Kentucky started the year ranked number 1 overall.

[tragicbronson]

The biggest argument against him staying seems to be the fact that he 'might' have a serious injury and lose a few million dollars... First of all this doesn't actually happen very often when you consider the number of prospects there are. Also let's get serious, you can't live your career or your life for that matter on the fear you may get injured. Why does any player even bother showing up after they get their contract then?

Let's not forget that we are not Jabari Parker. It may have been a goal of his to win an NCAA championship and he wants to achieve that. He had a shocking end to his college career is that really how anyone would want to go out? To us on the outside Duke his just his school but it's been his life the past year and if he has grown to love it I can't blame him for wanting to give better before he leaves. This guy wants an NCAA championship and good on him for actually trying to get it. He feels he has to redeem himself and if I'm a GM I feel this is a great quality for him to have.

I know it's not official yet but if he does stay I say kudos to Jabari Parker. Life is not all about money, if he wants to win a national championship then he should go out and do that. This guy is going to get paid one day regardless.

Really good post, answer to all that are questioning his decision

[ralph_i_el]

Duke has the #1 recruiting class and they are all players who will fit around Jabari. If he stays they could possibly be on of the greatest college teams of all time. Coach K is in his ear. I bet CWebb has made a lot of $$$ off his college fame.

[rufuspaul]

If the Hornets grab him with Detroit's pick next year it will be a major coup.

[tomtucker]

The biggest argument against him staying seems to be the fact that he 'might' have a serious injury and lose a few million dollars... First of all this doesn't actually happen very often when you consider the number of prospects there are. Also let's get serious, you can't live your career or your life for that matter on the fear you may get injured. Why does any player even bother showing up after they get their contract then?

Let's not forget that we are not Jabari Parker. It may have been a goal of his to win an NCAA championship and he wants to achieve that. He had a shocking end to his college career is that really how anyone would want to go out? To us on the outside Duke his just his school but it's been his life the past year and if he has grown to love it I can't blame him for wanting to give better before he leaves. This guy wants an NCAA championship and good on him for actually trying to get it. He feels he has to redeem himself and if I'm a GM I feel this is a great quality for him to have.

I know it's not official yet but if he does stay I say kudos to Jabari Parker. Life is not all about money, if he wants to win a national championship then he should go out and do that. This guy is going to get paid one day regardless.

:applause: .........unlike that mutant anthony davis, that is all about the money

[ForeverHeat]

Its his life, and if he feels he wants to experience another year in college then so be it. Life isnt all about money, some of you have your priorities wrong. If he wins a national championship next year and loses 5 mil off his career earnings, or no collegiate achievements to speak of and gain 5 mil onto already potential 200mil + career earnings (if he is indeed a star, factoring in endorsements,etc.).

Which is a better story to tell the grand kids?

[beastee]

Hopefully that report is wrong. After this years bad crop of rookies, they really need a big class like 2003. The NBA is so dependent on stars that if these watered down drafts continue, the league is gonna suffer in 3-4 years.

[redboy]

:applause: .........unlike that mutant anthony davis, that is all about the money
wtf are you smoking, AD won a championship

[hawksdogsbraves]

:applause: .........unlike that mutant anthony davis, that is all about the money

Anthony Davis won player of the year and a national championship, Jabari Parker lost to Mercer in the first round :facepalm

[tomtucker]

wtf are you smoking, AD won a championship

in his first and only year at Kentucky.........check some interviews with him, he loves money.

[I]That's not a problem anymore, and according to CNBC's Darren Rovell, Davis trademarked the phrases "Fear the Brow" and "Raise the Brow" earlier this month:

[Qwyjibo]

Anthony Davis won player of the year and a national championship, Jabari Parker lost to Mercer in the first round :facepalm
Actually, Kentucky won the championship and Duke lost to Mercer. You must've forgotten about all those other players that make up a team. You're welcome for the correction.

[outbreak]

[QUOTE=tomtucker]in his first and only year at Kentucky.........check some interviews with him, he loves money.

[I]That's not a problem anymore, and according to CNBC's Darren Rovell, Davis trademarked the phrases "Fear the Brow" and "Raise the Brow" earlier this month:

[talkingconch]

i really dont get why davis has that stupid unibrow. Is he really make a lot of money off it? He looks absolutely ugly and ridiculous

[JUDGE WITNESS]

i really dont get why davis has that stupid unibrow. Is he really make a lot of money off it? He looks absolutely ugly and ridiculous
when youre that rich you dont give a fvck

[LockoutOver11]

This. For example, Melo's worthless NCAA championship. Does anyone even think he'd be a NCAA champion if LeBron went to college for a year? :oldlol:

Lmaoooooo i dont post much... But this was funny... I wont read further but i hope everyone made fun of ur ass lollol

[9erempiree]

Lmaoooooo i dont post much... But this was funny... I wont read further but i hope everyone made fun of ur ass lollol

I agree with you. That post was full of stupid.