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ArbitraryWater
04-03-2014, 03:28 PM
How good/bad was it? Would really like to be further educated in this topic, as I feel it's vital regarding my placement for Moses all-time...

Would appreciate it if ShaqAttack could make an appearance for this one :D

Also, if it only was "average", as a big he'd still have more Impact, than let's say a guard who's a solid defender.. agreed? (Don't want this to be the main topic though)

Brizzly
04-03-2014, 03:33 PM
Rockets was one of the worst defensive teams late 70s with him as an anchor. I think I read that somewhere.

HomieWeMajor
04-03-2014, 03:58 PM
Kevin Love like but because he was black and had that speech impediment caused from his cocaine habit the opponents were more intimidated.

Fudge
04-03-2014, 03:59 PM
Homie, we major.

JellyBean
04-03-2014, 07:32 PM
Kevin Love like but because he was black and had that speech impediment caused from his cocaine habit the opponents were more intimidated.

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Moses was an average defender. Not sure what the heck being black and having a speech impediment has to do with intimidating opponents.

SHAQisGOAT
04-03-2014, 08:04 PM
People saying 'average' best not be talking about his peak...

He was a pretty good and impactful defender when he put in the effort (also because he was a big), so we're talking about like 4/5 seasons and mostly/especially at his best, plus after 1983 he was never quite the same overall. He was able to play some nice and very physical m2m D in the post and average like 1 steal and 2 blocks, intimidating also.
In 1983 - call it his peak and his last season at a terrific level - he played the best defense of his career (of course he also had better teammates as far as that): 1 spg, 2 bpg (10th), 2nd in DWS, 2nd in DRtg, made all-defensive 1st, maintained/elevated in the playoffs, great/really impactful year as far as defense (obviously not even half of the story)... Never was at that level before or after, although he was somewhat close in some years around that. Take it for what it is but let's not call him average if we're talking about prime, considerably above that.

Pointguard
04-03-2014, 09:16 PM
How good/bad was it? Would really like to be further educated in this topic, as I feel it's vital regarding my placement for Moses all-time...

Would appreciate it if ShaqAttack could make an appearance for this one :D

Also, if it only was "average", as a big he'd still have more Impact, than let's say a guard who's a solid defender.. agreed? (Don't want this to be the main topic though)
I think he was average but his banging usually wore the opposing center down and it affected their play quite a bit. The preoccupation of keeping him off of the offensive glass also wore centers down. So they rarely had legs at the end of the game. Kareem seemed to be annoyed by him so I would say he was a pretty good defender.

Before Mo joined up with Bobby Jones and Maurice Cheeks, Moses teams absolutely sucked on defense. And with Philly I'm sure Doc blocked plenty more shots than Mo too.

A solid point guard defender for a defensive coach means more than an average center defender on a top 5 worse defensive team.

eliteballer
04-03-2014, 09:23 PM
Kareem didn't think much of his defense, and this was when Kareem was old.

IncarceratedBob
04-03-2014, 09:29 PM
He and Karl were similar defenders but Karl liked to play dirtier at times. Like they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree

ArbitraryWater
02-17-2015, 02:14 PM
He and Karl were similar defenders but Karl liked to play dirtier at times. Like they say the apple doesn't fall far from the tree

But they're not brothers

KevinNYC
02-17-2015, 05:54 PM
But they're not brothers
Maybe he's talking about George Karl? It would make the same amount of sense.

Heavincent
02-17-2015, 06:01 PM
But they're not brothers

IncarceratedBob intentionally says the dumbest shit. Like when he said something like "Washington doesn't care about the Wizards, they're all about the Seahawks" :roll:

Demon Lizard
02-17-2015, 06:04 PM
Kareem didn't think much of his defense, and this was when Kareem was old.

Then again, Kareem probably didn't respect the D of most bigs.

La Frescobaldi
02-17-2015, 06:16 PM
Maybe he's talking about George Karl? It would make the same amount of sense.
or karl marx for that matter

Lebron23
02-17-2015, 06:22 PM
Kevin Love like but because he was black and had that speech impediment caused from his cocaine habit the opponents were more intimidated.


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