We gon act like OKC isn't stackkkkkkked ?

[Im Still Ballin]

Nikkas more stacked than a 10 stacker pile of pancakes.

[Angel Face]

OKC isn't stacked like Miami. Looking stacked =/= being stacked.

Even Lebron's b-day cake is stacked as fck.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/lebron-cake-large.jpg

[JT123]

Most stacked team in NBA history. When is the last time a team had two top 5 players this young and BOTH in their primes? At least when Miami teamed up Wade was on the decline. It is championship or bust at this point.

[JebronLames]

Not as stacked as 2012 okc. Still loss to the Miami cavaliers.

[Milbuck]

Most stacked team in NBA history. When is the last time a team had two top 5 players this young and BOTH in their primes? At least when Miami teamed up Wade was on the decline. It is championship or bust at this point.
Wade was on such a HUGE decline, averaging 27/7/5 in the 2011 Finals. Can't remember why they lost that year.

[Asukal]

Lebron stans shook. :roll:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Not as stacked as the 2011-2014 Heats

[AnaheimLakers24]

bran couldn't win in Cleveland so he begged wade to let him play on his team

[Im Still Ballin]

Your boy Ibaka with elite defense and efficient scoring.

Your boy Kendrick with the elite rim protection, hustle and being the enforcer, the tough guy every team needs.

Reggie off the bench being a flamethrower on offense and shutdown artist on d.

Caron applying the SQUEEZE with 5 steals, you know how the butler does it homie.

Andre 3000 dropping BOMBS didnt miss a shot !

D-Fish just doing what he does (5 rings yo !)

Adams and Nicky Col, tough, inside, ruthless, what else do you need !

All this, and Jay Lamb didnt even play !!!!

Oh and i forgot to mention

Westbrook... and Durant.

How is it even fair, so much stack nikka be like yo we want a pancake.

[oarabbus]

OKC isn't stacked like Miami. Looking stacked =/= being stacked.

Even Lebron's b-day cake is stacked as fck.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/lebron-cake-large.jpg


:applause:

[JT123]

Wade was on such a HUGE decline, averaging 27/7/5 in the 2011 Finals. Can't remember why they lost that year.
Miami had shit role players who couldn't spread the floor for Bron. Mark Cuban even said as much.

[Tonius]

http://realisticcookingideas.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/banana-pecan-pancakes-stacked-high.jpg

[Mr. Jabbar]

Your boy Kendrick being the enforcer, the tough guy every team needs.


http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/640/962/d91.gif

[livinglegend]

Your boy Ibaka with elite defense and efficient scoring.

Your boy Kendrick with the elite rim protection, hustle and being the enforcer, the tough guy every team needs.

Reggie off the bench being a flamethrower on offense and shutdown artist on d.

Caron applying the SQUEEZE with 5 steals, you know how the butler does it homie.

Andre 3000 dropping BOMBS didnt miss a shot !

D-Fish just doing what he does (5 rings yo !)

Adams and Nicky Col, tough, inside, ruthless, what else do you need !

All this, and Jay Lamb didnt even play !!!!

Oh and i forgot to mention

Westbrook... and Durant.

How is it even fair, so much stack nikka be like yo we want a pancake.

We finally have a funny poster. Not like those losers that try to be funny, but are not.

[Im Still Ballin]

Kendricks a winner homie,

ain't no denying it.

what happend to boston when K-P went down?

Thats right.

[JT123]

Your boy Ibaka with elite defense and efficient scoring.

Your boy Kendrick with the elite rim protection, hustle and being the enforcer, the tough guy every team needs.

Reggie off the bench being a flamethrower on offense and shutdown artist on d.

Caron applying the SQUEEZE with 5 steals, you know how the butler does it homie.

Andre 3000 dropping BOMBS didnt miss a shot !

D-Fish just doing what he does (5 rings yo !)

Adams and Nicky Col, tough, inside, ruthless, what else do you need !

All this, and Jay Lamb didnt even play !!!!

Oh and i forgot to mention

Westbrook... and Durant.

How is it even fair, so much stack nikka be like yo we want a pancake.
Agreed! It's honestly not even fair. :(

[Asukal]

Seriously.... :roll:

[Im Still Ballin]

Seriously.... :roll:

seriously.

time and time again the depth and quality of their players have kept them afloat when Kevin has been rusty, or when Russel has been injured.

It's kind of like a safety harness when climbing, always their to protect you when you fall.

[KDthunderup]

Yep not like

Wade = won a ring as the main man himself, one of the best sg's in history and a future HOF

Bosh = One of the best skilled big men in the league, was an elite 1st option on his own team, 9 time All-star.

Allen = One of if not the best 3 point shooters in NBA history, 10 time All star, clutch as **** big time player, future HOF.

Miller = Rookie of the year winner, 6th man award winner, great role player, came up big in the playoffs.

Chalmers = Solid role player, comes up big in the playoffs with big shots.

Battier = One of the best 3 and D guys in the league besides this past season. Ultimate role player and glue guy. Big shot player as well.

Then you have Beasley, Oden, Haslem, Anderson, Jones on top



Are we ****ing being serious here? The Heat are the most stacked team in history, there was a reason why there was such hype when the big 3 teamed up, it was because we had never seen such stakedness ever in the modern salary cap era in any sport.

[livinglegend]

Yep not like

Wade = won a ring as the main man himself, one of the best sg's in history and a future HOF

Bosh = One of the best skilled big men in the league, was an elite 1st option on his own team, 9 time All-star.

Allen = One of if not the best 3 point shooters in NBA history, 10 time All star, clutch as **** big time player, future HOF.

Miller = Rookie of the year winner, 6th man award winner, great role player, came up big in the playoffs.

Chalmers = Solid role player, comes up big in the playoffs with big shots.

Battier = One of the best 3 and D guys in the league besides this past season. Ultimate role player and glue guy. Big shot player as well.

Then you have Beasley, Oden, Haslem, Anderson, Jones on top

You are using past accomplishments.

NEXT

[KDthunderup]

You are using past accomplishments.

NEXT
So if we aren't allowed to use the past to judge a players abilities I guess Lebron has zero rings and

KD>>>>LBJ

[Im Still Ballin]

Yep not like

Wade = won a ring as the main man himself, one of the best sg's in history and a future HOF

Bosh = One of the best skilled big men in the league, was an elite 1st option on his own team, 9 time All-star.

Allen = One of if not the best 3 point shooters in NBA history, 10 time All star, clutch as **** big time player, future HOF.

Miller = Rookie of the year winner, 6th man award winner, great role player, came up big in the playoffs.

Chalmers = Solid role player, comes up big in the playoffs with big shots.

Battier = One of the best 3 and D guys in the league besides this past season. Ultimate role player and glue guy. Big shot player as well.

Then you have Beasley, Oden, Haslem, Anderson, Jones on top

Wade = past it, knees weak, arms are heavy moms spaghetti

Bosh = soft undersized center who consistently displays behaviour that is similar to a gay man. not to mention he is a dinosaur.

Allen = you seen this nikkas defense? sure he might hit 2 3pts a game at best but doesn't balance him letting his opponent score 10 points on him

Miller = nothing but a glorified specialist shooter. classic example of the lebron factor (playing with lebron, making them seem more valuable then they really are, example - mo williams)

Chalmers = :oldlol: yeah right. dudes lucky to be in the league. so un-athletic, even more un-aesthetic, can't imagine how he got drafted in the first place :lol

Battier = ... guy can dance and thats about it.

Andersen = pedophile Oden = Old/slow/knees shot/postin nudes online (impressive sausage tbh) Haslem = Old/cant shoot Beasley = this dude blazes it up WAY to often to be considered an asset on the court. good asset for the kush tho, real talk. James Jones = Good singer, and that's it.

Essentially, I went through your whole argument and disproved every point.

Nice try though.

[sd3035]

So if we aren't allowed to use the past to judge a players abilities I guess Lebron has zero rings and

KD>>>>LBJ


:lebronamazed: destroyed

[Angel Face]

Wade = past it, knees weak, arms are heavy moms spaghetti

Bosh = soft undersized center who consistently displays behaviour that is similar to a gay man. not to mention he is a dinosaur.

Allen = you seen this nikkas defense? sure he might hit 2 3pts a game at best but doesn't balance him letting his opponent score 10 points on him

Miller = nothing but a glorified specialist shooter. classic example of the lebron factor (playing with lebron, making them seem more valuable then they really are, example - mo williams)

Chalmers = :oldlol: yeah right. dudes lucky to be in the league. so un-athletic, even more un-aesthetic, can't imagine how he got drafted in the first place :lol

Battier = ... guy can dance and thats about it.

Andersen = pedophile Oden = Old/slow/knees shot/postin nudes online (impressive sausage tbh) Haslem = Old/cant shoot Beasley = this dude blazes it up WAY to often to be considered an asset on the court. good asset for the kush tho, real talk. James Jones = Good singer, and that's it.

Essentially, I went through your whole argument and disproved every point.

Nice try though.

To cut it short, this guy's saying everyone in Heat is scrub except Lebron. A true heat fan right here.

[russwest0]

So if we aren't allowed to use the past to judge a players abilities I guess Lebron has zero rings and

KD>>>>LBJ

ethered.

[KDthunderup]

Wade = past it, knees weak, arms are heavy moms spaghetti

Bosh = soft undersized center who consistently displays behaviour that is similar to a gay man. not to mention he is a dinosaur.

Allen = you seen this nikkas defense? sure he might hit 2 3pts a game at best but doesn't balance him letting his opponent score 10 points on him

Miller = nothing but a glorified specialist shooter. classic example of the lebron factor (playing with lebron, making them seem more valuable then they really are, example - mo williams)

Chalmers = :oldlol: yeah right. dudes lucky to be in the league. so un-athletic, even more un-aesthetic, can't imagine how he got drafted in the first place :lol

Battier = ... guy can dance and thats about it.

Andersen = pedophile Oden = Old/slow/knees shot/postin nudes online (impressive sausage tbh) Haslem = Old/cant shoot Beasley = this dude blazes it up WAY to often to be considered an asset on the court. good asset for the kush tho, real talk. James Jones = Good singer, and that's it.

Essentially, I went through your whole argument and disproved every point.

Nice try though.
Typical Lebran ****** stan non Heat fan response

[Im Still Ballin]

To cut it short, this guy's saying everyone in Heat is scrub except Lebron. A true heat fan right here.

You know i'm right homie.

And while you're here it'd be appreciated if you could remove Kevin and Michael's schlongs from your oral cavity, thanks.

[Fudge]

Durant is the best player in the world.

/thread

[livinglegend]

So if we aren't allowed to use the past to judge a players abilities I guess Lebron has zero rings and

KD>>>>LBJ

:facepalm You use past accomplishments to evaluate a player s greatness, but you dont use past accomplishments to evaluate the present.

NEXT

[Angel Face]

You know i'm right homie.

And while you're here it'd be appreciated if you could remove Kevin and Michael's schlongs from your oral cavity, thanks.

A true heat fan. :applause:

Looks like Lebron's dick has been resting on your throat all these years. Time to remove it I guess. It's probably the reason why you're choking.

[KDthunderup]

Hope you ain't talkin about mike miller homie..........
I'm referring to previous years as well bruv

[KDthunderup]

:facepalm You use past accomplishments to evaluate a player s greatness, but you dont use past accomplishments to evaluate the present.

NEXT
I'm talking in general about 2011-2014, Wade was still an elite 1st option from 2011-2013, would still be one this year but has declined due to knees. Bosh still the same guy he was in Toronto, he has just taken on a lesser role. Allen is still one of the best 3pt shooters in the league, been a bit off this season but you can guarantee he will be hitting them in the playoffs.

[deja vu]

I see the Heat fans are ready with their excuses.

[livinglegend]

I'm talking in general about 2011-2014, Wade was still an elite 1st option from 2011-2013, would still be one this year but has declined due to knees. Bosh still the same guy he was in Toronto, he has just taken on a lesser role. Allen is still one of the best 3pt shooters in the league, been a bit off this season but you can guarantee he will be hitting them in the playoffs.

Elite 1st option averaging 15 ppg in the playoffs? :facepalm
Lesser role? He got raped by Hibbert and Duncan, it has nothing to do with lesser role. He scored 0 point in game 7 and was averaging 12 ppg. :facepalm
Allen was one of the best, he is not anymore. Check his stats this season and last season.

[Im Still Ballin]

Haha.

OKC fans shook.

Nothing seems to do that better than a good dose of Truth.

[KDthunderup]

Elite 1st option averaging 15 ppg in the playoffs? :facepalm
Lesser role? He got raped by Hibbert and Duncan, it has nothing to do with lesser role. He scored 0 point in game 7 and was averaging 12 ppg. :facepalm
Allen was one of the best, he is not anymore. Check his stats this season and last season.
Wade still averaged 20ppg in the finals only 5ppg less then lebron on better FG%. He stood up when needed since Heat have an easy passage to the finals in the East and he was battling with that knee injury last year. He also had that 27/7/7 finals series in 2011 when Lebron totally shat the bed. Lebron cost Wade a ring that year when he carried them.

Bosh has saved the Heats asses more times then you could count. Show some ****ing respect, without him LBJ is ringless.

[Im Still Ballin]

Wade still averaged 20ppg in the finals only 5ppg less then lebron on better FG%. He stood up when needed since Heat have an easy passage to the finals in the East and he was battling with that knee injury last year. He also had that 27/7/7 finals series in 2011 when Lebron totally shat the bed. Lebron cost Wade a ring that year when he carried them.

Bosh has saved the Heats asses more times then you could count. Show some ****ing respect, without him LBJ is ringless.

Kinda like Kendrick. Show some fvcking respect, without him KD is ringle-

wait a minute.

oh thats right. haha.

[Droid101]

It's so sad. I actually feel bad for these guys. What if LeBron literally died tomorrow. What would they do with their lives?

Unrelated, here is the suicide prevention hotline number: 1-800-273-8255

[KDthunderup]

Kinda like Kendrick. Show some fvcking respect, without him KD is ringle-

wait a minute.

oh thats right. haha.
Have I dissed Perkins? :biggums:

I ain't a lebitch stan who bags all the teammates to prop up achievements.


Lebitch had 0 rings at 25 years so lets just wait and see how this turns out.

[Im Still Ballin]

Have I dissed Perkins? :biggums:

I ain't a lebitch stan who bags all the teammates to prop up achievements.


Lebitch had 0 rings at 25 years so lets just wait and see how this turns out.

It's well documented that the number 1 scapegoat for Kevin and OKC's failures is Kendrick. Number 2 is Scott Brooks and number 3 is the refs (which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense now does it?)

[russwest0]

It's so sad. I actually feel bad for these guys. What if LeBron literally died tomorrow. What would they do with their lives?

Unrelated, here is the suicide prevention hotline number: 1-800-273-8255

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[KDthunderup]

It's well documented that the number 1 scapegoat for Kevin and OKC's failures is Kendrick. Number 2 is Scott Brooks and number 3 is the refs (which really doesn't make a whole lot of sense now does it?)
What the **** gets in you Lebran stan heads? :biggums:

Do you just run with what one or two trolls say on this forum and take it as gospel? You're a complete tard.

[Im Still Ballin]

What the **** gets in you Lebran stan heads? :biggums:

Do you just run with what one or two trolls say on this forum and take it as gospel? You're a complete tard.

Hey I'm sure none of you wanna admit that maybe they aren't good enough, and perhaps that maybe it's not kendricks fault let alone brooks.

[LongLiveTheKing]

What we know for sure.

LeBron>>>>KD
OKC is STACKED af
Russ Alphabrook is the true leader of the Thunder.

[KDthunderup]

What retard Lebran stans think they know for sure

LeBron>>>>KD
OKC is STACKED af
Russ Alphabrook is the true leader of the Thunder.

Fixed

[KDthunderup]

Hey I'm sure none of you wanna admit that maybe they aren't good enough, and perhaps that maybe it's not kendricks fault let alone brooks.
They are good enough along with a few other teams, they are far from guaranteed or favorites though.

[(e)]

I'm always shocked when I see "Heat" (talking to you Bron fans) fans hate on Chris Bosh. Miami has managed to turn one of the best forwards in the NBA into an undersized spot up center

[LongLiveTheKing]

Fixed
You're a Thunder fan why are you mad?
Just stating facts. :confusedshrug:

[JT123]

They are good enough along with a few other teams, they are far from guaranteed or favorites though.
Why not? Two top 5 players both in the prime of their careers. Perfect balance of young talent and savy veterans coming off the bench. What's missing? I'm sorry, but if OKC doesn't win a title this year Durant's legacy will never recover.

[ArbitraryWater]

So if we aren't allowed to use the past to judge a players abilities I guess Lebron has zero rings and

KD>>>>LBJ

:facepalm :oldlol: How about stuff from the last couple of years and not the last decade? :lol

[AirFederer]

OKC isn't stacked like Miami. Looking stacked =/= being stacked.

Even Lebron's b-day cake is stacked as fck.

http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/lebron-cake-large.jpg

That cake :lol
:biggums:

[AirFederer]

One thing, has ever a non stacked team won? There will always be someone calling this and that team stacked :confusedshrug:

[Jlamb47]

OKC isnt stacked
Kendrick is not what yal making him
first yal wanna talk down on him and now hes elite defender??
D fish?? lol get out of here
Heat is alot more stacked then OKC
if russell westbrook or KD aint hitting there sh1tty AF
they arnt the same without them 2
now Heat plays without Wade regular and have Ray Allen a future HOF to step in that role
Oden beasly Rashard Lewis battier ? even though there not at ther peak there all productive

[sd3035]

That cake :lol
:biggums:

the collusion cake, each layer is a future HOF colluder

[dannywpt]

Maybe for once OKC can have a scrub roleplayer going 5-5 from 3pt range vs Miami and not the other way around

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Durant is the best player in the world.

/thread
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

OKC probably gonna play Memphis.
thats hella epic, i can already see Durant having a meltdown against their physical defense

[DMV2]

Knowing what we now know about Harden, OKC was definitely stacked during the Durant-RW-Harden years. They just lacked experience.

With the current roster, I see potential in Lamb and Jackson. I don't think they would become as good as Harden but they could be solid starters for about 25 other teams.

[Im Still Ballin]

So. Much. Stack.

this video clearly illustrates the stacked-ness of OKC
































































https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

[DMAVS41]

Yes. Of course they are loaded when healthy. Only drawback is Brooks...and while he's not great, he's not terrible as he's improved as a coach imo the last few years.

But,

Without Durant on the court they are +2.3 points per 100 possessions. That is absolutely fantastic.

Going back and looking at former championship teams of this era;

01 - Without Shaq? -7.6
02 - Without Shaq? +1.4
03 - Without Duncan? -5.6
04 - Not sure who the best player really was, but I'd probably say Ben Wallace was the most valuable. Without Wallace? +3.1
05 - Without Duncan? +.9
06 - Without Wade? -6.9
07 - Without Duncan? -.7
08 - Without KG? +4.6
09 - Without Kobe? +.1
10 - Without Kobe? -3.8
11 - Without Dirk? -5.4
12 - Without Lebron? -3.6
13 - Without Lebron? -2.1

Now, those numbers mean more during the regular season as stars play more in the playoffs and how a team performs without it's star becomes a little less important. However, it's still better to have a team that can perform well without the star on the floor. Also, having a 2nd star is hugely important for the playoffs...which the Thunder absolutely have.

The point is...if healthy, this Thunder team is great.

Oh...another big thing for winning the title is having a quality defense. The Thunder have the 5th best defense overall...and actually improve the defense by 3.1 points per 100 possessions without KD on the court. So when those 2nd units come in and Durant goes to the bench...when he comes back...he's likely to have an even bigger lead...or have the deficit cut.

So yes, the Thunder are just as stacked or more than most of the teams that have won the title since 2001.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Yes. Of course they are loaded when healthy. Only drawback is Brooks...and while he's not great, he's not terrible as he's improved as a coach imo the last few years.

But,

Without Durant on the court they are +2.3 points per 100 possessions. That is absolutely fantastic.

Going back and looking at former championship teams of this era;

01 - Without Shaq? -7.6
02 - Without Shaq? +1.4
03 - Without Duncan? -5.6
04 - Not sure who the best player really was, but I'd probably say Ben Wallace was the most valuable. Without Wallace? +3.1
05 - Without Duncan? +.9
06 - Without Wade? -6.9
07 - Without Duncan? -.7
08 - Without KG? +4.6
09 - Without Kobe? +.1
10 - Without Kobe? -3.8
11 - Without Dirk? -5.4
12 - Without Lebron? -3.6
13 - Without Lebron? -2.1

Now, those numbers mean more during the regular season as stars play more in the playoffs and how a team performs without it's star becomes a little less important. However, it's still better to have a team that can perform well without the star on the floor. Also, having a 2nd star is hugely important for the playoffs...which the Thunder absolutely have.

The point is...if healthy, this Thunder team is great.

Oh...another big thing for winning the title is having a quality defense. The Thunder have the 5th best defense overall...and actually improve the defense by 3.1 points per 100 possessions without KD on the court. So when those 2nd units come in and Durant goes to the bench...when he comes back...he's likely to have an even bigger lead...or have the deficit cut.

So yes, the Thunder are just as stacked or more than most of the teams that have won the title since 2001.
Championship or ultra bust

[DMV2]

Good shit, DMAVS41 :applause:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

just wanna say DMavs is one of the best posters on this site.
always comes up with a ton of facts and mostly unbiased:applause:

[riseagainst]

So if we aren't allowed to use the past to judge a players abilities I guess Lebron has zero rings and

KD>>>>LBJ

holy sh1t. dat ether.

:roll:

[riseagainst]

excuses are already rolling in.

[J Shuttlesworth]

DMAVS? More like DMAN

[Cali Syndicate]

Fck sht stack.

[tontoz]

Kendricks a winner homie,

ain't no denying it.

what happend to boston when K-P went down?

Thats right.



Perkins averages almost as many fouls as points. Rim protector? :lol

[DMAVS41]

Perkins averages almost as many fouls as points. Rim protector? :lol

Well, he's been making his teams defenses better since 10. His overall impact is next to nothing or negative, but he actually does help on defense.

[NumberSix]

No excuses.

[tontoz]

Why not? Two top 5 players both in the prime of their careers. Perfect balance of young talent and savy veterans coming off the bench. What's missing? I'm sorry, but if OKC doesn't win a title this year Durant's legacy will never recover.



Westbrook a top 5 player? :roll:

[tontoz]

Well, he's been making his teams defenses better since 10. His overall impact is next to nothing or negative, but he actually does help on defense.



He is a net -6.4 when he is on the court. He is one of the worst starters in the league.

http://www.82games.com/1314/13OKC17.HTM#onoff

[Demitri98]

Best player in the league + top 5 player and most freakish athlete in the league + elite rim protector + Dwight stopper + Best 3 and D guy in the league, + Butler, Jackson and Lamb off the bench + Adams being there when Perkins thinks he's MJ and tries to take over

http://tinyurl.com/pdhoryh

[DMAVS41]

He is a net -6.4 when he is on the court. He is one of the worst starters in the league.

http://www.82games.com/1314/13OKC17.HTM#onoff

And he makes the defense better. Which was the part of your post I addressed.

I even said his impact overall is a net negative.

Did you read my post? LOL

[BrownEye007]

Okc is stacked and my dick is 10 inches long.

[dannywpt]

You'd think a stacked team had more than 1 all-star on their team. Other teams, let's say Heat, have 3 if I'm not mistaken. :kobe:

[DMAVS41]

You'd think a stacked team had more than 1 all-star on their team. Other teams, let's say Heat, have 3 if I'm not mistaken. :kobe:

Red herring.

WB is every bit as good as Wade when healthy (probably actually just better now)

And in terms of impact on each team...Ibaka is every bit as impactful as Bosh.

Bosh is a better player, but him being a better player doesn't really matter because his role is so limited and the Heat ask him to do things that he isn't well suited for.

The Thunder have everything in terms of players to win a title. They have a legit superstar/best player in the league caliber guy in Durant. An all-nba/top 10 player in the league caliber guy in WB. A perfect 3rd guy in Ibaka that defends/rebounds and can stretch the floor and doesn't need the ball to have an impact.

They've been playing a long time together and have a good mix of young talent and veterans.

They play top 5 defense in the league and have the depth to actually get better on defense when Durant goes to the bench...and actually have a positive scoring differential with their best player off the court as well.

What more do you want? There are many all time great players that never play on a team as good as the current Thunder when healthy.

[tontoz]

And he makes the defense better. Which was the part of your post I addressed.

I even said his impact overall is a net negative.

Did you read my post? LOL



Do you remember your post? What you actually said was.


His overall impact is next to nothing or negative,


His impact isn't even remotely close to nothing. It is heavily negative. There is no "or" about it.

[tontoz]

You'd think a stacked team had more than 1 all-star on their team. Other teams, let's say Heat, have 3 if I'm not mistaken. :kobe:



I think people are confusing a stacked team with a good team.

[DMAVS41]

Do you remember your post? What you actually said was.




His impact isn't even remotely close to nothing. It is heavily negative. There is no "or" about it.

I was talking about him as a player for his career dude...

[tontoz]

I was talking about him as a player for his career dude...



The OP is talking about him right now,dude.

But if you want to explain why Perkins years in Boston have any relevance to the thread I am all ears.

[sd3035]

Let's break down two of the top teams in the league based on how stacked they are

In the case of OKC, one could argue that they are stacked solely because they have the greatest player since MJ on their team

Miami is far better at every position except for SF where OKC obviously has a significant advantage. Also the pg position is a wildcard, Westbrook was a better player than Chalmers before he got injured, and probably will be again.

Miami has a much better bench and coach

If we count each starting position as a point, and the bench and coach as a point each, the final tally is

5-1 Miami with one tie (pg)

using a weighted point advantage system at each position it's a bit more interesting

7 - 4 Miami (Wade and Bosh extra +1 each, Durant +3)



There you have it, an unbiased statistical analysis of "Stackedness"

[DMAVS41]

The OP is talking about him right now,dude.

But if you want to explain why Perkins years in Boston have any relevance to the thread I am all ears.

It had relevance to my response about Perkins since 10...you are arguing something we agree on for no apparent reason. Just to argue I assume as something bit you in the ass in this thread

Are you a Durant stan? I honestly don't know, but there are no excuses for him this year if his help is healthy. They have everything needed to win a title and more in terms of players...

Also, could you explain why you laughed at Perkins on defense?

[riseagainst]

Let's break down two of the top teams in the league based on how stacked they are

In the case of OKC, one could argue that they are stacked solely because they have the greatest player since MJ on their team

Miami is far better at every position except for SF where OKC obviously has a significant advantage. Also the pg position is a wildcard, Westbrook was a better player than Chalmers before he got injured, and probably will be again.

Miami has a much better bench and coach

If we count each starting position as a point, and the bench and coach as a point each, the final tally is

5-1 Miami with one tie (pg)

using a weighted point advantage system at each position it's a bit more interesting

7 - 4 Miami (Wade and Bosh extra +1 each, Durant +3)



There you have it, an unbiased statistical analysis of "Stackedness"


:applause: :applause:

[LONGTIME]

We gonna act like OKC doesn't play low IQ iso bball?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Let's break down two of the top teams in the league based on how stacked they are

In the case of OKC, one could argue that they are stacked solely because they have the greatest player since MJ on their team

Miami is far better at every position except for SF where OKC obviously has a significant advantage. Also the pg position is a wildcard, Westbrook was a better player than Chalmers before he got injured, and probably will be again.

Miami has a much better bench and coach

If we count each starting position as a point, and the bench and coach as a point each, the final tally is

5-1 Miami with one tie (pg)

using a weighted point advantage system at each position it's a bit more interesting

7 - 4 Miami (Wade and Bosh extra +1 each, Durant +3)



There you have it, an unbiased statistical analysis of "Stackedness"
Such a stupid post. Read DMavs last few posts and everything you just said has already been refuted.

[tontoz]

It had relevance to my response about Perkins since 10...you are arguing something we agree on for no apparent reason. Just to argue I assume as something bit you in the ass in this thread

Are you a Durant stan? I honestly don't know, but there are no excuses for him this year if his help is healthy. They have everything needed to win a title and more in terms of players...

Also, could you explain why you laughed at Perkins on defense?


Again please explain how going back to age 10 has any relevance to the thread. I could go back just a few years and say Allen was one of the best 2 guards in the league but it doesn't matter because he isn't that now.

Durant stan? I am not anyone's stan. I am a Wizards fan which isn't easy.

You aren't paying much attention to the holes in their roster. At center they have a garbage can and a 2nd year project. At the 2 who do they have? Another 2nd year project. How are these 2nd year guys going to hold up in the playoffs? history isn't on their side.

And I laughed at Perkins as a rim protector. Rim protectors usually block more than .5 shots per game. His job is just to rough people up. That is all he can do.

[tontoz]

We gonna act like OKC doesn't play low IQ iso bball?


I haven't watched them much this year but that killed them in last years playoffs. Their half court execution was dismal.

[J Shuttlesworth]

People understimate Perkins man. I know it seems like a troll post, but he really is prime for defending against Howard, Gasol, and Duncan and other bigs. I honestly believe that without KP, they lose in the WCF or don't make it

[Choke]

OKC is not stackkkkkkkkked.

[DMAVS41]

Again please explain how going back to age 10 has any relevance to the thread. I could go back just a few years and say Allen was one of the best 2 guards in the league but it doesn't matter because he isn't that now.

Durant stan? I am not anyone's stan. I am a Wizards fan which isn't easy.

You aren't paying much attention to the holes in their roster. At center they have a garbage can and a 2nd year project. At the 2 who do they have? Another 2nd year project. How are these 2nd year guys going to hold up in the playoffs? history isn't on their side.

And I laughed at Perkins as a rim protector. Rim protectors usually block more than .5 shots per game. His job is just to rough people up. That is all he can do.

I wasn't saying Perkins is good now. There was just a miscommunication and you have run with it...even though in my post I said he was a no impact to net negative overall. We can clear that away.

No team is going to be absolutely perfect, but the Thunder have everything you need.

Good defense? Check
Two stars? Check
Really good 3rd option? Check
Solid mix of veterans and young talent? Check
Team that can outscore the opponent while their best player rests? Check

The only question mark is Brooks.

No reason to act like they don't have more than enough to win it all...they should be the favorites in the West and a virtual push against the Heat in the finals assuming Miami gets there.

[CelticBaller]

like a jenga tower

[JT123]

Westbrook a top 5 player? :roll:
What is so funny? We saw how much Harden's averages went up once he left OKC, and Westbrook is way better than Harden. Goatbrook could easily average 26-28 ppg if he wasn't sharing the rock with Durant.

[tontoz]

Solid mix of veterans and young talent? Check

The only question mark is Brooks.

No reason to act like they don't have more than enough to win it all...they should be the favorites in the West and a virtual push against the Heat in the finals assuming Miami gets there.


Perkins has a PER of 6 and is a foul machine. He is trash and is a big part of the reason why they have a decent +/- without Durant. When Durant sits Perkins is frequently sitting also.

Their only question mark is Brooks? They are 28th in the league in turnovers and have three of the most foul prone players in the whole league (Adams, perkins, collison).

39 year old Fisher isn't a question mark? He wasn't that good in his prime and is washed up. Lamb isn't a question mark? He was in the DLeague last year. Adams isn't a question mark? He is a rookie who fell in the draft because he was considered so raw.

They are a good team but hardly stacked. Their half court execution killed them last year and i haven't seen enough of them to know if they have improved.

[riseagainst]

We gon act like OP isn't a fakkit?

[Budadiiii]

I wasn't saying Perkins is good now. There was just a miscommunication and you have run with it...even though in my post I said he was a no impact to net negative overall. We can clear that away.

No team is going to be absolutely perfect, but the Thunder have everything you need.

Good defense? Check
Two stars? Check
Really good 3rd option? Check
Solid mix of veterans and young talent? Check
Team that can outscore the opponent while their best player rests? Check

The only question mark is Brooks.

No reason to act like they don't have more than enough to win it all...they should be the favorites in the West and a virtual push against the Heat in the finals assuming Miami gets there.
Dude, offensive rebounding and the ability to get easy baskets is huge. Coaching is huge.

They don't have ANYONE down low who can finish consistently, let alone create their own shot. That's critical in the playoffs.

Don't have everything you need, not even close. But Durant/Westbrook are enough. They can make up for it.

[tontoz]

What is so funny? We saw how much Harden's averages went up once he left OKC, and Westbrook is way better than Harden. Goatbrook could easily average 26-28 ppg if he wasn't sharing the rock with Durant.


I dont' see a lot of sharing from Westbrook. I see 7 assists and 4 turnovers. If he can only get 7 assists playing with the best scorer in the league that doesn't say much for his pg skills.

Westbrooks lack of half court pg skills is a major hole that smart teams can exploit.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Dude, offensive rebounding and the ability to get easy baskets is huge. Coaching is huge.

They don't have ANYONE down low who can finish consistently, let alone create their own shot. That's critical in the playoffs.

Don't have everything you need, not even close. But Durant/Westbrook are enough. They can make up for it.
People call Miami stacked all the time and they are just about the worst team in the league at offensive rebounding. They won 2 chips w/o OREB

[JT123]

I dont' see a lot of sharing from Westbrook. I see 7 assists and 4 turnovers. If he can only get 7 assists playing with the best scorer in the league that doesn't say much for his pg skills.

Westbrooks lack of half court pg skills is a major hole that smart teams can exploit.
LOL at using assist stats to try and prove a player isn't sharing the rock. Use some context dude. First off, Westbrook has been on a minutes restriction since coming back from injury. Secondly, the Thunder 3 point shooters aren't as good as they were a year ago. Can't get assists if your teammate can't hit the open shots you create for them. :confusedshrug:
How does playing with Durant mean you should have more assists? Durant is much more dangerous with the ball in his hands and creating for himself than he would be playing off the ball. :facepalm Westbrook when at the top of his game is a top 5 player, deal with it. KD has ZERO excuses.

[J Shuttlesworth]

lol @ 7 assists not being enough, especially when KD gets 5-6 a game too

[tontoz]

LOL at using assist stats to try and prove a player isn't sharing the rock. Use some context dude. First off, Westbrook has been on a minutes restriction since coming back from injury. Secondly, the Thunder 3 point shooters aren't as good as they were a year ago. Can't get assists if your teammate can't hit the open shots you create for them. :confusedshrug:
How does playing with Durant mean you should have more assists? Durant is much more dangerous with the ball in his hands and creating for himself than he would be playing off the ball. :facepalm Westbrook when at the top of his game is a top 5 player, deal with it. KD has ZERO excuses.



Westbrook has been known as a turnover prone chucker his whole career. OKC didn't exactly tank while he was out.

[Budadiiii]

lol @ 7 assists not being enough, especially when KD gets 5-6 a game too
Considering they have no one to finish down-low, it's an absolute miracle. Granted, Ibaka can hit his jump shot in the regular season. He's proven that, just hasn't proven much else.

Serge IbacktoCongoyouf*ggot

[JT123]

Westbrook has been known as a turnover prone chucker his whole career. OKC didn't exactly tank while he was out.
Which just proves the point of the thread title. :oldlol: The Thunder were easily winning games without their second best player. Meanwhile, the Heat have struggled to beat lottery teams when Wade or Lebron sit out. The Thunder have a more complete team than Miami, at this point it's not even debatable.

[tontoz]

Which just proves the point of the thread title. :oldlol: The Thunder were easily winning games without their second best player. Meanwhile, the Heat have struggled to beat lottery teams when Wade or Lebron sit out. The Thunder have a more complete team than Miami, at this point it's not even debatable.


I think you are confusing a stacked team with a good team.

There was no free agent colluding when putting the Thunder together. No dubious, lopsided trades. They just so happen to have the best pure scorer in recent memory. And their GM used his draft picks wisely.

What high profile free agent have they landed? I don't see ring chasing vets flocking to OKC like they have to Miami.

[The Iron Fist]

:facepalm You use past accomplishments to evaluate a player s greatness, but you dont use past accomplishments to evaluate the present.

NEXT
The thread is about OKC today dummy.

[The Iron Fist]

Wade still averaged 20ppg in the finals only 5ppg less then lebron on better FG%. He stood up when needed since Heat have an easy passage to the finals in the East and he was battling with that knee injury last year. He also had that 27/7/7 finals series in 2011 when Lebron totally shat the bed. Lebron cost Wade a ring that year when he carried them.

Bosh has saved the Heats asses more times then you could count. Show some ****ing respect, without him LBJ is ringless.
Pau Gasol averaged 18 ppg in the 2010 finals, hes supposedly FMVP.
Wade averages 20 ppg in the finals, hes barely good enough to be on the team.

[JT123]

I think you are confusing a stacked team with a good team.

There was no free agent colluding when putting the Thunder together. No dubious, lopsided trades. They just so happen to have the best pure scorer in recent memory. And their GM used his draft picks wisely.

What high profile free agent have they landed? I don't see ring chasing vets flocking to OKC like they have to Miami.
So we gonna act like Derek Fisher and Caron Butler don't exist? :facepalm
Funny thing is Miami went after both those guys, but they decided OKC had a better chance at a title. Why would they think that unless the Thunder had a more complete roster. And what does "free agent colluding" have to do with anything? :oldlol: This thread is about the Thunder being stacked, not about how the team was put together. :no:

[JT123]

Pau Gasol averaged 18 ppg in the 2010 finals, hes supposedly FMVP.
Wade averages 20 ppg in the finals, hes barely good enough to be on the team.
Difference is Pau was dominating before the Finals, while Wade was putting up role player numbers in the first 3 rounds. :coleman:

[riseagainst]

Difference is Pau was dominating before the Finals, while Wade was putting up role player numbers in the first 3 rounds. :coleman:

and pre-finals has to do with FMVP how?

[tontoz]

So we gonna act like Derek Fisher and Caron Butler don't exist? :facepalm
Funny thing is Miami went after both those guys, but they decided OKC had a better chance at a title. Why would they think that unless the Thunder had a more complete roster. And what does "free agent colluding" have to do with anything? :oldlol: This thread is about the Thunder being stacked, not about how the team was put together. :no:


Stacked is about the level of talent and how it was put together.


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stacked

cheating by arranging the way a game is played to give one side an unfair advantage

Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka have grown up playing together which is undoubtedly a factor in their success. It isnt like they became stars on different teams then decided to join forces to make it easy to get a title.

Fisher and Butler might as well not exist. Butler is having possibly a career worst season and Fisher hasn't been useful in years. They probably figured they wouldn't see much court time in Miami. They arent very comparable to the Allen/Beasley/Anderson/Shard/Battier/Oden group.

[DMAVS41]

I think you are confusing a stacked team with a good team.

There was no free agent colluding when putting the Thunder together. No dubious, lopsided trades. They just so happen to have the best pure scorer in recent memory. And their GM used his draft picks wisely.

What high profile free agent have they landed? I don't see ring chasing vets flocking to OKC like they have to Miami.

Wait...this makes no sense.

So if the Thunder had traded a future draft pick and a scrub for Westbrook...you'd feel differently about how good their team is?

It doesn't matter how a team is built for analyzing how good it is. Not sure why you could possibly think that matters.

You have arguably the best player in the league.
You have an all-nba player in WB that could be argued to be about as good as anyone in the league outside of Lebron/Durant when healthy honestly.
You have a great 3rd guy.
You have a top 5 defense.
And you have a team that outscores the opponent when Durant sits.

Seriously? How the **** is that not a stacked team? It is beyond a good team. The Mavs and Suns are good teams...the Thunder belong in a completely different category.

[DMAVS41]

Stacked is about the level of talent and how it was put together.



Durant, Westbrook and Ibaka have grown up playing together which is undoubtedly a factor in their success. It isnt like they became stars on different teams then decided to join forces to make it easy to get a title.

Fisher and Butler might as well not exist. Butler is having possibly a career worst season and Fisher hasn't been useful in years. They probably figured they wouldn't see much court time in Miami. They arent very comparable to the Allen/Beasley/Anderson/Shard/Battier/Oden group.

The bold literally has no bearing on how good or dominant a team is. You are speaking to why you like the Thunder more than the Heat basically...which is fine, but that isn't relevant at all to pure basketball discussions.

[DMAVS41]

Dude, offensive rebounding and the ability to get easy baskets is huge. Coaching is huge.

They don't have ANYONE down low who can finish consistently, let alone create their own shot. That's critical in the playoffs.

Don't have everything you need, not even close. But Durant/Westbrook are enough. They can make up for it.

So you just want one of the best teams ever.

You want two legit superstars...a great 3rd option two way player at pf. A deep team that plays top 5 defense...and now you want a post player at center?

Come on now...I got a good chuckle about WB/Durant making up for a team that is ****ing great.

Totally agree about coaching though...I've said it time and time again about Brooks. Just not sure he's good enough. He's not terrible, but he's not good either. We'll see.

[tontoz]

Wait...this makes no sense.

So if the Thunder had traded a future draft pick and a scrub for Westbrook...you'd feel differently about how good their team is?

It doesn't matter how a team is built for analyzing how good it is. Not sure why you could possibly think that matters.

You have arguably the best player in the league.
You have an all-nba player in WB that could be argued to be about as good as anyone in the league outside of Lebron/Durant when healthy honestly.
You have a great 3rd guy.
You have a top 5 defense.
And you have a team that outscores the opponent when Durant sits.

Seriously? How the **** is that not a stacked team? It is beyond a good team. The Mavs and Suns are good teams...the Thunder belong in a completely different category.

First of all you should look up the definition of a stacked team.

3
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stacked
cheating by arranging the way a game is played to give one side an unfair advantage

Why do you think people were so against the Heat when the big 3 got together? Do you really think people would actively root against them if they were all drafted by the Heat?

Secondly OKC has gaping holes at C and at SG, can't hold onto the ball, have 3 of the top 10 most foul prone players in the league and have no bigs who can score inside. That isn't exact a proven recipe for title teams.

[DMAVS41]

First of all you should look up the definition of a stacked team.

3.

stacked
cheating by arranging the way a game is played to give one side an unfair advantage

Secondly they have gaping holes at C and at SG, can't hold onto the ball, have 3 of the top 10 most foul prone players in the league and have no bigs who can score inside.

What?

Stacked teams are not defined by that...LOL

You can't have a great player at each position...:facepalm

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

What?

Stacked teams are not defined by that...LOL

You can't have a great player at each position...:facepalm
http://www.nba.com/media/hoop/Warriors20121008b.jpg
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http://squeezetheorange.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/trailblazers-lineup.jpg
http://sports-kings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LA2.jpg

[Solefade]

What?

Stacked teams are not defined by that...LOL

You can't have a great player at each position...:facepalm


the irony of that post...


tells you to look up what "stacked" means...but he doesn't actually know what stacked means :lol

[Solefade]

you can't be a stacked team when you have one player leading the team in almost all statistical categories /thread

[DMAVS41]

http://www.nba.com/media/hoop/Warriors20121008b.jpg
http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/16248875/071013_iguodala_300.0_standard_352.0.jpg

http://squeezetheorange.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/trailblazers-lineup.jpg
http://sports-kings.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/LA2.jpg

I don't consider some of those guys great players...

But I should have been more clear. You can't have Durant and WB and Ibaka...and then have great players at sg and center

The money doesn't work...it's impossible.

Stacked generally means having multiple superstars on a team that even without one or perhaps both superstars....they can outscore opponents.

It's just a semantic issue...they are as good on paper as anyone in the league...I'd actually probably argue that they are the best team on paper this year if fully healthy.

If that doesn't fit your definition of stacked...that is fine...just replace it with any word that makes sense to you. I don't really care.

[aboss4real24]

KD WESTBROOK And who?

lol Dere nt stacced

they do have sum solid role players tho

[blablabla]

you can't be a stacked team when you have one player leading the team in almost all statistical categories /thread
why is that genius

[tontoz]

the irony of that post...


tells you to look up what "stacked" means...but he doesn't actually know what stacked means :lol


I actually posted the definition of a stacked team that i copied after looking it up. You two are just pretending the definition doesn't exist.

Ever heard of a stacked deck?. Stacking the deck against someone?

SMFH


Do you remember the Heat throwing a celebration before their first season together even started? REmember Lebron predicting all those titles? It was because they knew that they stacked the deck in their favor. They knew they had a stacked team.

[Solefade]

why is that genius


how is it stacked if one guy does everything?

[raprap]

Championship or bust

[Im Still Ballin]

Championship or bust

This.

[Combat Wombat]

We going to act like the OP isn't a white guy trying to post like he is black and his ******* isn't as empty as his skull?

[Im Still Ballin]

We going to act like the OP isn't a white guy trying to post like he is black and his ******* isn't as empty as his skull?

Anddddddddd....

who the fvck are you?

never seen you before