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russwest0
04-04-2014, 02:28 AM
Westbrook 27/6/1/4, 50% shooting, 30 minutes

Parker 6/3/4/0 30% shooting, 26 minutes

Westbrook holding down his title as best PG in the league. Parkers last chance to reclaim the title will be in the WCF this year.

BlazerRed
04-04-2014, 02:28 AM
Parker looked so shook out there. Westbrook make him his bitch.

plowking
04-04-2014, 02:31 AM
Spurs just can't handle OKC. Too much athleticism and firepower at all the positions their star players play, hence they have to put in maximum efforts on both sides of the ball. Only thing I can think of.

russwest0
04-04-2014, 02:32 AM
Spurs just can't handle OKC. Too much athleticism and firepower at all the positions their star players play, hence they have to put in maximum efforts on both sides of the ball. Only thing I can think of.

Yeah, gonna suck even more for the Spurs in the playoffs when Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, and Reggie are all ramping their minutes up as well.

qrich
04-04-2014, 02:36 AM
18 turnovers a game is the best point guard :roll:

plowking
04-04-2014, 02:37 AM
Yeah, gonna suck even more for the Spurs in the playoffs when Durant, Westbrook, Ibaka, and Reggie are all ramping their minutes up as well.

Yep.

I'm not exactly sure who'll be in the WCF's this year. You'd have to think OKC and Spurs, but at the same time, even the first round match ups of Memphis or Dallas match up well against both those teams. Wouldn't be shocking to see both teams go to 6 or 7 in the first round.

OKC is playing the Clippers in the 2nd round too... How well do you guys play against them? From what I remember, they've both won their home games this season, each putting up a decent effort against the other on the opposing court.
Gonna be a great series.

russwest0
04-04-2014, 02:40 AM
Yep.

I'm not exactly sure who'll be in the WCF's this year. You'd have to think OKC and Spurs, but at the same time, even the first round match ups of Memphis or Dallas match up well against both those teams. Wouldn't be shocking to see both teams go to 6 or 7 in the first round.

OKC is playing the Clippers in the 2nd round too... How well do you guys play against them? From what I remember, they've both won their home games this season, each putting up a decent effort against the other on the opposing court.
Gonna be a great series.

Clippers will take OKC to 5 games and lose. They just don't present any real matchup problems for OKC. Their whole lob city shit that is a staple in their offense during the regular season won't help them at all vs OKC in the playoffs with OKC being even more athletic than the Clippers + hustling on every possession.

OKC's length and athleticism will help them harass the Clippers on D and on offense, well... OKC clearly wins that battle.

Think I've alluded to this before. In the playoffs Griffin and Paul are closer in impact to Reggie Jackson and Serge Ibaka than Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant.

ThePhantomCreep
04-04-2014, 02:41 AM
Westbrook when healthy is obviously the superior player.

Graviton
04-04-2014, 02:49 AM
Should say "Westbrook is the best player at the PG position" instead for all the incredibly sensitive and insecure people that love those assist/turnover ratios, regardless if the team wins or loses. :oldlol:

Good thing Westbrook only cares about wins and not pointless stats, it allows him to go all out and energize his team. You will never see him passive in a close game. Can't say the same about that other PG vs the Mavs today. :(

russwest0
04-04-2014, 02:50 AM
Should say "Westbrook is the best player at the PG position" instead for all the incredibly sensitive and insecure people that love those assist/turnover ratios, regardless if the team wins or loses. :oldlol:

Good thing Westbrook only cares about wins and not pointless stats, it allows him to go all out and energize his team. You will never see him passive in a close game. Can't say the same about that other PG vs the Mavs today. :(

Yup, but he still knows when to defer to Durant and does it often. It's badass. He's also making a lot more splash plays down the stretch in close games than someone like CP3 would. When he locks in on defense and shuts his opponent down like he did with Parker tonight, thats also badass too.

Graviton
04-04-2014, 02:54 AM
Yup, but he still knows when to defer to Durant and does it often. It's badass. He's also making a lot more splash plays down the stretch in close games than someone like CP3 would. When he locks in on defense and shuts his opponent down like he did with Parker tonight, thats also badass too.
It's called the "Goatbrook zone", only ninja turtles like Russ and Rondo can enter it. :lol

JohnMax
04-04-2014, 02:57 AM
http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4238295/duncanlol.gif

russwest0
04-04-2014, 02:58 AM
It's called the "Goatbrook zone", only ninja turtles like Russ and Rondo can enter it. :lol

I think people forget Westbrook was defensive player of the year in the PAC-10 in college and was a monster perimeter defender being one of the main reasons he went so high when some expected him to go as low as pick #10 and weren't accounting for his defense.

I wouldn't call him a defensive stopper because he still gambles too much on that end, but when he's locked in? :oldlol: Good ****ing luck, thats all I can say. Oh, and have fun watching him outjump and outrebound your big men and then instantly turn up the floor and outrun your whole team for a vicious dunk. :lol

JohnFreeman
04-04-2014, 03:00 AM
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Duncan got a tech for that :facepalm

russwest0
04-04-2014, 03:01 AM
http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4238295/duncanlol.gif

I like how that was a technical on Duncan too :facepalm

Why aren't more coaches exploiting this double technical bullshit? All OKC had to do was send in Adams and have him hook arms with Duncan or some shit and then just give him a little shove for another double technical and ejection for Duncan.

Warriors did that shit and it worked for getting Blake Griffin ejected and they won. Heat exploited the double technical bullshit to get Stephenson ejected. If the refs are going to be little bitches and call double technicals for one clown overreacting to nothing and shoving a player, coaches need to adapt and start exploiting it more often to take good players out of the game.

fiddy
04-04-2014, 03:04 AM
Westbrick is not a PG

russwest0
04-04-2014, 03:08 AM
Westbrick is not a PG

Averages more career assists per game than Derrick Rose. "Not a PG." :oldlol: :facepalm

Or is Derrick Rose a 2 guard too because he plays in attack mode and doesn't whore for assists? People seriously need to get this idea out of their head that every point guard has to play like John Stockton or they are doing it all wrong. The Chris Paul method of point guarding has yet to show for shit in the playoffs. So sure, you wanna say snide shit like "Westbrick is not a PG" and jizz your pants at Chris Pauls regular season assist total, go ahead.

Just don't whine like a bitch when Westbrook puts up 27/7/7 in the Finals and is dominating every aspect of the game. Oh wait, he already has. :lol

fiddy
04-04-2014, 03:12 AM
Westbrick is a combo guard that is ruining KD's career. better?

TheMilkyBarKid
04-04-2014, 03:13 AM
Paul wasn't playing, but yes Parker lost the matchup badly. Is it just me or does Westbrook tend to outperform him a lot head to head?

russwest0
04-04-2014, 03:14 AM
Westbrick is a combo guard that is ruining KD's career. better?

Yeah, just imagine where Durant would be without Westbrook ruining his career :eek:

He might have a few scoring titles by now. He might have even been an MVP candidate. Hell, maybe he would even make the finals if it weren't for "Westbrick" :eek: :eek: :eek:

LoneyROY7
04-04-2014, 03:16 AM
CP3 vs Westbrook:

Paul averages 19 and 10 on 49 percent shooting.

Westbrook averages 18 and 7 on 40 percent shooting.

JohnFreeman
04-04-2014, 03:17 AM
I want Isaiah to go somewhere better

sportjames23
04-04-2014, 03:19 AM
Westbrook is a G

Fix'd

LoneyROY7
04-04-2014, 03:19 AM
I want Isaiah to go somewhere better

You think he could be a legit top PG on the right team? His numbers are nice this season, but how's he at managing a team? Haven't watched him play enough.

ThePhantomCreep
04-04-2014, 03:24 AM
Westbrick is a combo guard that is ruining KD's career. better?

Amazing that people still think this, given the Thunder's meek exit from the 2013 playoffs. Reminds me of those idiotic "Lakers are just as good without Kobe" posts from the three-peat days.

NBA fans are idiots. I'm ashamed to be one.

Graviton
04-04-2014, 03:27 AM
Fix'd
http://i.imgur.com/jpr2xXf.jpg

JohnFreeman
04-04-2014, 03:28 AM
OKC goes as far as Westbrook takes them

JohnFreeman
04-04-2014, 03:29 AM
You think he could be a legit top PG on the right team? His numbers are nice this season, but how's he at managing a team? Haven't watched him play enough.
He is doing well, we just need a Cousins Thomas PnR game going. Needs a better coach though

russwest0
04-04-2014, 03:29 AM
Amazing that people still think this, given the Thunder's meek exit from the 2013 playoffs. Reminds me of those idiotic "Lakers are just as good without Kobe" posts from the three-peat days.

NBA fans are idiots. I'm ashamed to be one.

It's like some of these clowns have never heard of a "1-2 punch" before. AKA what basically every single championship team ever consists of. (with one or two exceptions)

Like what do you anti-Westbrook clowns want him to do? Come down the floor and starting off by passing it to Thabo on the wing? Giving Perkins a post up look? He's there to take pressure off of Durant via scoring, and to create open looks for others with his agressiveness. Also to play elite defense and be an elite rebounder.

He's not there to average 5PPG and 15APG making sure Sefolosha and Perkins each average 10PPG and that Durant shoots 30 shots a game averaging 45PPG.

GOATbrookisGAWD
04-04-2014, 03:30 AM
Parker was terrible. Westbrook took him by the horns and rode him like a pony all game. Shit was just cruel :oldlol:

SCdac
04-04-2014, 03:32 AM
Paul wasn't playing, but yes Parker lost the matchup badly. Is it just me or does Westbrook tend to outperform him a lot head to head?

It's pretty even, but Westbrook gets more steals and corrals alot more (offensive) rebounds.. that kind of stuff makes him deadly in the open court and valuable in getting extra shots for OKC. Parker is quicker and a better finisher, but Westbrook seems faster, more athletic, and is a triple double threat on his best nights. his defense on Parker tonight was excellent.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=parketo01&p2=westbru01

russwest0
04-04-2014, 03:33 AM
Whether it's Parker/Duncan, Magic/Kareem, Kobe/Shaq, Jordan/Pippen, Wade/Bosh, etc. You NEED a 1-2 punch to win multiple championships in this league.

Clowns who don't understand that are just... :facepalm

qrich
04-04-2014, 03:34 AM
CP3 vs Westbrook:

Paul averages 19 and 10 on 49 percent shooting.

Westbrook averages 18 and 7 on 40 percent shooting.

Let's just do this season, where Clips are 2-1, including missing JJ for a night in a win. (PTS|REB|AST|STL|TO FG%/3PT%/FT% | FGA)

CP: 16.3 | 6.7 | 13.3 | 1.0 | 2.0 on 44.7/28.6/100[11-11] | 12.7 FGA
RW: 14.6 | 5.0 | 7 | 1.3 | 3.7 on 34.1/28.6/71.4[10-14] | 14.6 FGA

Not even close :oldlol:

RedBlackAttack
04-04-2014, 03:47 AM
Head-to-head matchups hold very little water in a "who's better" debate, unless it is over the course of a 7-game series in the playoffs.

Kyrie Irving has routinely outplayed Russell Westbrook over the years when they've gone head-to-head. I wouldn't argue Irving is the better player (yet) as a result.

H2H is only worth bringing up when your guy is the one flourishing. Otherwise, the same people hailing it will be the first to dismiss it.

JohnMax
04-04-2014, 03:49 AM
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Graviton
04-04-2014, 03:59 AM
We will see who shows up in the playoffs.

Curry vs Westbrook vs Paul vs Conley vs Parker vs Lilard vs Dragic vs Ellis vs Harden. So many exciting guard matchups.

JohnMax
04-04-2014, 04:01 AM
Is it just me or does Westbrook tend to outperform him a lot head to head?

Not many people know this but Westbrook was last years Blake Griffin. He got better as the season went along. His first game of the season, Parker hit a game winner against him.

Than I noticed as the season went on, he started dominating elite PGs like Parker and CP3. Whereas before it would either be a tie or they would win the matchup.

J Shuttlesworth
04-04-2014, 04:01 AM
I hope Thunder spank them in the playoffs. Don't want to go to the finals against San Antonio again :mad:

Graviton
04-04-2014, 04:05 AM
Not many people know this but Westbrook was last years Blake Griffin. He got better as the season went along. His first game of the season, Parker hit a game winner against him.

Than I noticed as the season went on, he started dominating elite PGs like Parker and CP3. Whereas before it would either be a tie or they would win the matchup.
Yea, after the All-Star break he was the best PG, with Curry close second. He averaged like 24/6/5 on 46/32/81% and was even better than Durant in some months.

It was looking like he would have a great playoffs but then the injury happened. And even this season he started out playing like shit and had to rest after surgery, but gradually got better as time went on and he recovered. He is a slow starter, but once he gets rolling Thunder look unstoppable.