Monster game from Kyrie tonight

[fpliii]

:banana:

[Clyde]

....and they lost.

[fpliii]

....and they lost.
True, but when the rest of the squad combines for 50 (on 65 shots), you're not going to win many games. :confusedshrug:

They still have a shot to make the playoffs, though obviously they need to go on a run and need some help from Atlanta/NY.

[moe94]

....and tbey lost.

http://i.imgur.com/Y5SsVRE.jpg

[JohnMax]

Why couldn't he do that to Jeff Teague? Oh I forgot he can't guard him.

[Yankstar]

http://i.imgur.com/Y5SsVRE.jpg

:applause:

Making KLove look good

[dannywpt]

Cavs leading scorers Kyrie 44, Waiters 14 and Hawes 9. No one else on the team with more than 5 points. :wtf:

[absalom]

Payback time for Kyrie, he played like shit in their first 3 games.

OT: Cody Zeller w/ his first double double. :banana:

[moe94]

:applause:

Making KLove look good

Speaking of him, check this shit out. :biggums:

http://i.imgur.com/3hJticm.jpg

[JohnMax]

Cavs leading scorers Kyrie 44, Waiters 14 and Hawes 9. No one else on the team with more than 5 points. :wtf:

Says alot about their PG play

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Emptier than a porn stars heart

[Doranku]

....and they lost.

Just like Florida.

[moe94]

Just like Florida.
http://i.imgur.com/JWxGE.gif

got em

[JohnMax]

Speaking of him, check this shit out. :biggums:

http://i.imgur.com/3hJticm.jpg


http://therepublikofmancunia.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Empty-seats-vs-Wigan.jpg

[secund2nun]

Any player can get hot for one game. Brandon Jennings 55 points ring a bell?

The typical Kyrie Irving game is 7/18 19 points.

[Clyde]

Just like Florida.

ZING!

[RedBlackAttack]

Any player can get hot for one game. Brandon Jennings 55 points ring a bell?

The typical Kyrie Irving game is 7/18 19 points.
Actually, the literal "typical" game for Kyrie is 8/17 for 21 points, since those are his career averages.


Kyrie played out of his mind tonight. Kept the Cavs in the game and sent it to OT. The Cavs' inability to secure a defensive rebound cost them the game.

[Meticode]

Onto next year, hopefully the Cavs go out healthy this year.

Deng will probably sign elsewere.

Some rumors about Cavs interest in Gordon Hayward

I like Hawes more than I thought.

Is Varejao gone after this year? This is his last year, work almost $10 million? Trade? Or resign for mid-level?

Where will the Cavs place in the draft?

Lots of questions...

[andremiller07]

Onto next year, hopefully the Cavs go out healthy this year.

Deng will probably sign elsewere.

Some rumors about Cavs interest in Gordon Hayward

I like Hawes more than I thought.

Is Varejao gone after this year? This is his last year, work almost $10 million? Trade? Or resign for mid-level?

Where will the Cavs place in the draft?

Lots of questions...
If I'm Hawes unless the Cavs move Tristian or Andy there is no way I would come back why would he want to be losing mins to a undersized average at best PF in Thompson when he's twice the player TT is on a team that's more than likely going to have a losing record.

[secund2nun]

Actually, the literal "typical" game for Kyrie is 8/17 for 21 points, since those are his career averages.


Kyrie played out of his mind tonight. Kept the Cavs in the game and sent it to OT. The Cavs' inability to secure a defensive rebound cost them the game.

I was exaggerating, but with that said 21 on 17 isn't good. That's Kyrie's scoring limit. He won't get much better than that because of his size limitation at 6'3 190. Kyrie scored well tonight, but he still went iso and ball movement suffers when he is in the game. His strategy is not sustainable, which is why a game like this is rare for him. He has more bad scoring games then good scoring games.

[NustABut]

He has to (attempt to) put up monster games if his teammates don't show up

Tonight he did.

The next he may or may not.

[RedBlackAttack]

I was exaggerating, but with that said 21 on 17 isn't good. That's Kyrie's scoring limit. He won't get much better than that because of his size limitation at 6'3 190. Kyrie scored well tonight, but he still went iso and ball movement suffers when he is in the game. His strategy is not sustainable, which is why a game like this is rare for him. He has more bad scoring games then good scoring games.
Wrong again. He averaged 24 ppg last season... 22 ppg this year.

And, the guy just turned 22.

Look, I understand you have a thing with PGs. I see you posting about them all the time and how they have minimal impact, etc. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but at least try to be impartial when having a serious conversation.


Onto next year, hopefully the Cavs go out healthy this year.

Deng will probably sign elsewere.

Some rumors about Cavs interest in Gordon Hayward

I like Hawes more than I thought.

Is Varejao gone after this year? This is his last year, work almost $10 million? Trade? Or resign for mid-level?

Where will the Cavs place in the draft?

Lots of questions...

I have no desire to invest a big contract into Deng. He has been an upgrade over what we had before (Clark/Gee), but that isn't saying much. In general, he has been a pretty major disappointment.

It looks like he's playing hurt, but that could be a chronic thing that lasts the rest of his career. Chicago offered him three years, $30 million and he turned it down. That is too much for what I've seen.

I'd be OK making a run at Hayward, but he's going to get a big contract... probably bigger than he's worth. In general, we have to slightly overpay to get the big FAs. That is just part of the deal when you're a small market franchise. It all depends on how much the overpay is... we'll certainly have the money to throw around.

This team needs more shooting. Hayward has shown an excellent perimeter game earlier in his career, but he has struggled with his shot this season. I guess you have to roll the dice and hope this year was an anomaly.

Hawes has shown some really nice flashes and he and Kyrie mesh together really well (he had a bit of a slump in the eight games Kyrie was out). I'm not against re-signing him if the price is right, but damn... he cost us that game last night by not being able to get a defensive rebound down the stretch. Zeller beat him to the ball three or four times on critical possessions that may have lost us the game.

Great shooter, excellent passer... good all-around offensive player. Even his defense isn't as bad as I expected. But, if you're our center and can't secure a defensive rebound down the stretch of a close game, I'm not throwing a ton of money at you. I'd say $8-9 million a year, max, and that's only because he's still very young.

I think we'll re-sign Varejao, if I had to guess. The organization loves him and the feeling seems mutual.

As for the draft, right now we're going into the lottery in 9th position. I'd be sort of surprised if we didn't move up maybe a spot or two with our easy schedule left. I see us passing the Knicks maybe... possibly NO and Denver, too.

So, more than likely we'll finish up between 9-11. We need to hope that all the guys who haven't declared do declare for the draft. Otherwise, guys that may be there for us at 10 right now will bump up. The deeper this draft, the better for us, obviously.

[secund2nun]

Wrong again. He averaged 24 ppg last season... 22 ppg this year.

And, the guy just turned 22.

Look, I understand you have a thing with PGs. I see you posting about them all the time and how they have minimal impact, etc. You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but at least try to be impartial when having a serious conversation.



His size will never change even with age.

He averaged 22.5 ppg last year, not 24 ppg, on 18 shots per game which is pretty mediocre. Also by scoring limit I did not mean literally I meant taking into account efficiency and how your scoring can help a team. Any player, including Kyrie, can get 28-29-30 ppg if they shoot enough (Jerry Stackhouse for example once reached 30 ppg but took 24 shots per game to reach that). But it is a negative if scored with bad efficiency.

Irving will never be that guy who scores in his upper 20s or honestly even mid 20s with good efficiency. Ultimately if used correctly and with the proper mindset Kyrie would ideally average around 19-22 PPG on good efficiency. If he tries to do more than that the team will suffer.

He can take the Stackhouse approach and shoot 24 times and reach 30 ppg sure, but that would be a very bad thing for his team.

The cavs need to maximize on his perceived value and trade him for a good piece.