WrestleMania XXX: Viewing Party

[9erempiree]

The matches tonight:

Vickie Guerrero Invitational- Diva's championship on the line.

Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal- 30 wrestlers battle it out. 3 mystery wrestlers will appear.

Shield vs. Kane and the Middle Aged Outlawas

Fatal 4 Way Tag Team Championship

John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt

Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar- who is tougher WWE or MMA.

Daniel Bryan vs. Nipple H

Orton vs. Batista vs. winner of Bryan/Nips

Post here if you need a stream or share your stream.

[Shade8780]

any watching the divas match? :lol

[9erempiree]

any watching the divas match? :lol

I might watch.

[Smook A.]

You dont even have to watch Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar to know who will win.

We alllll know the WWE wants Undertaker to win so he can keep his 'streak'

[9erempiree]

Believe in the Shield :rockon:

I don't watch wrestling anymore like I use to but I show up for Wrestlemania every year.:bowdown: I watched the Shield on the build up and I think they should get a bigger match.

Kane and the Outlaws is disrespect towards the Shield. I see them winning though.

[Shade8780]

I don't watch wrestling anymore like I use to but I show up for Wrestlemania every year.:bowdown: I watched the Shield on the build up and I think they should get a bigger match.

Kane and the Outlaws is disrespect towards the Shield. I see them winning though.
Same. I havent watched wrestling in a couple years but Im gonna watch this Wrestlemania.

[9erempiree]

You dont even have to watch Undertaker vs Brock Lesnar to know who will win.

We alllll know the WWE wants Undertaker to win so he can keep his 'streak'

I'm over the streak and want it to end.

I seldom watch wrestling as it is and this Taker streak guarantees him a match every year which is unfair to others. Just lose it and retire already.

I am so sick of his 5 minute entrances too.

[Jameerthefear]

I need a stream once it starts...

[Shade8780]

I don't watch wrestling anymore like I use to but I show up for Wrestlemania every year.:bowdown: I watched the Shield on the build up and I think they should get a bigger match.

Kane and the Outlaws is disrespect towards the Shield. I see them winning though.
You mean like a promo? Link?

[9erempiree]

Well the shield already got destroyed by the Wyatts so I don't know what else they could have done with the Shield besides splitting them up and having them fight in a triple threat against eachother.

I keep hearing about Roman Reigns' name. Is he that good? Last time I watched him was a PPV but hardly on television.

What is the story with him?

[cos88]

how long till the pre show starts? my home country on demand streaming media has it starting in 30 minutes :rockon:

[9erempiree]

I need a stream once it starts...

I got First Row here. I thought you got the good streams.

[9erempiree]

how long till the pre show starts? my home country on demand streaming media has it starting in 30 minutes :rockon:

Yes. Same here. It should be starting pretty soon. The preshow that is.

[Shade8780]

I got First Row here. I thought you got the good streams.
reddit.

[Jameerthefear]

I got First Row here. I thought you got the good streams.
idk i don't watch wrestling. i'll find hd one once it starts

[9erempiree]

He's okay, he's been getting a huge push. He broke the record for most eliminations in the royal rumble

http://24.media.tumblr.com/eb1d7cea13160cdd40d501e101a43c0e/tumblr_mztuxbDR4c1qevcs2o1_400.gif


Seth Rollins is better though

I know it is good for business to break them up and have them go solo but I like the Shield.

They are individually unique and together they are like a rock band. Just rock stars. It would be weird to see them apart.

[Shade8780]

tag team belt is so fugly.

[Shade8780]

I know it is good for business to break them up and have them go solo but I like the Shield.

They are individually unique and together they are like a rock band. Just rock stars. It would be weird to see them apart.
nikka, you said you dont watch wwe :lol

[Budadiiii]

When does it start?

John Cena's legacy is on the line. Must see TV.

[Budadiiii]

50 minutes
Thanks bro

[LALakerFan4Life]

Stone Cold Steve Austin confirmed. The Rock and CM Punk rumored
The Rock was confirmed last night.

[cos88]

Who's the best current music artist?

[MMM]

Dis ain't stared yet has it???

[BasedTom]

Last year's Mania was the absolute worst ever.

Randy Orton has been the most boring champion in recent memory. And the fact that they're billing him as accomplishing some historic feat is ridiculous (Is Chris Jericho getting the Chris Benoit treatment now? Where is he these days anyway? Save us Y2J)

[Budadiiii]

Anybody got a link?

[EnoughSaid]

Great segment to start it out. Amazing to see The Rock, Stone Cold and Hogan all in the ring together.

Bryan vs. Triple H let's go!!!

[cos88]

great start, surprised they will start with hhh bryan

[9erempiree]

Nipple H looks yoked.

[BasedTom]

Dat Triple H entrance doe

He should wear the helmet for the fight

[9erempiree]

Damn...I want to lay one on Steph.

[9erempiree]

If you have seen one Nips match, you have seen them all.

No surprise he makes a Bryan match feel boring.

[The-Legend-24]

http://www.twitch.tv/callumoz1234

Link if anyone needs it

[HomieWeMajor]

Wow ! Can't believe HHH pinned him there

[9erempiree]

Awesome.

Nips power bombed off the top.

[9erempiree]

Steph getting excited making me excited.

[mr.big35]

pedigree is a GOAT finisher

[9erempiree]

Pedigree has lost its luster.

[mr.big35]

how can HHH lose to this scrub?

[EnoughSaid]

They let Bryan go over clean! :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

They're going to go with the "hurt" angle now where Bryan is going to run in at the last moment and compete in the main event.

[The-Legend-24]

how can HHH lose to this scrub?
Are u really asking this question? :oldlol:

[MMM]

How does a B like Bryan win vs a HOFer???

[9erempiree]

Damn.

I was hoping Nips wwom and win the titles tonight.

[Jameerthefear]

any1 got a link

[mr.big35]

any1 got a link
firstrowsports has it

[mr.big35]

i remember when roll dog part of the dx generation

[9erempiree]

Shield!
:applause:

Love it. They are all stars!

They deserve to squash them.

[cos88]

wow that was fast but some nice moves. the crowd was so dead after the bryan match

[9erempiree]

Battle Royal is garbage.

[Bless Mathews]

Bwahahahahahaga

Lol @ all you fakkits watching grown men in speedos roll around all sweaty following a script.

Especially oiler empire.

What a fakkit.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Damn, wanted to see big show win

trophy looks like it's made of plastic.

[cos88]

:eek: cesaro lifted big show like he was a 200 pound wrestler


he's the next big thing :applause:

[9erempiree]

Who is this man that won the Battle Royal?

[cos88]

Who is this man that won the Battle Royal?

cesaro the next big thing :applause:





4 matches remaining

[9erempiree]

lol @ swinging that black dude around.

[9erempiree]

It is a travesty that the GOAT of wrestling has to wrestle with Wyatt. :facepalm

Cena is the greatest of all time and he needs to be in the title match.

Possibly one of or my favorite wrestler of all time.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

It is a travesty that the GOAT of wrestling has to wrestle with Wyatt. :facepalm

Cena is the greatest of all time and he needs to be in the title match.

Possibly one of or my favorite wrestler of all time.
is cena a regular, or just part time now a days?

[9erempiree]

is cena a regular, or just part time now a days?

Don't know. I don't watch the television shows but I watch some PPV's.

He should be getting a title match.

[9erempiree]

This fool is all show. Look at his lantern entrance.

That entrance song is sick though.

[mr.big35]

is this guy a gimmick wrestler or a serious one

[9erempiree]

Cena!

:bowdown:

Champ is here!

[mr.big35]

when is the GOAT The Rock coming

[9erempiree]

Cena will put on a clinic on this fool.

[9erempiree]

WTF is this.

Cena isn't right here. They playing him down. Why they playing it out like Cena is weak.:facepalm

[BasedTom]

When is Bad News Barrett going to win the title?

[9erempiree]

That is what I am talking about.

Beat his ass.

[9erempiree]

They making Cena look ridiculous. Nipple H is pathetic.

I pretty much question Nip's decision on running this company.

You cannot have a GOAT like Cena do this.

[Bless Mathews]

Thread full of pre teen fakkits.

Every last one of you.


I'm taking names.

Don't ever ever ever ever step.

[9erempiree]

Holy shit! Holy shit!

Cena with the leap ala HBK.

[BasedTom]

They making Cena look ridiculous. Nipple H is pathetic.

I pretty much question Nip's decision on running this company.

You cannot have a GOAT like Cena do this.
You actually think Cena is going to lose? Do you think wrestling is real as well :roll:

Cena's whole gimmick is "OMG WILL HE OVERCOME THE ODDS!" :rolleyes:

[9erempiree]

Cena is putting a good match considering who he has to work with.

[9erempiree]

Cena is GOAT!:bowdown:

[cos88]

so 9er likes cena, kobe and cristiano ronaldo :facepalm that is so bad in every possible way it's not even funny

[9erempiree]

Cena put on the best match of the night so far.

They were messing around through the whole match. WWE needs to stop trying to make Wyatt strong. Nobody believes Wyatt character.

Cena is a legend compared to guys like Rock and Austin, then you have him looking weak against Wyatt.:facepalm

[mr.big35]

you missed him
watching wresting is not fun without the most electrifiying people's champ

[The-Legend-24]

Wtf happened to the F-U? did they really make that nikka change it to attitude adjustment? :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Cena put on the best match of the night so far.

They were messing around through the whole match. WWE needs to stop trying to make Wyatt strong. Nobody believes Wyatt character.

Cena is a legend compared to guys like Rock and Austin, then you have him looking weak against Wyatt.:facepalm

You're trying too hard. Silly white boy. :oldlol:

[MMM]

Part of that match was really cringe worthy

[cos88]

razor and jake bigger pops that ultimate warrior :lol why the **** did he get his own song, jake and razor are at least on the same tier imo




Streak before Divas? lol

[9erempiree]

razor and jake bigger pops that ultimate warrior :lol why the **** did he get his own song, jake and razor are at least on the same tier imo

I agree. It is pathetic to have him come out to his own song.

Jake and Razor were better.

:facepalm

[The-Legend-24]

Another streak match? Everyone knows Undertaker is gonna retire undefeated.

:rolleyes:

[MMM]

razor and jake bigger pops that ultimate warrior :lol why the **** did he get his own song, jake and razor are at least on the same tier imo




Streak before Divas? lol

Think that was in the pre show

[9erempiree]

I am going to make a sandwich and eat it and catch the beginning of this match after this entrance.

[mr.big35]

I like the old undertaker intro that had the gong only

[mr.big35]

GOAT intro

[9erempiree]

Mr. Wrestlemania is not a UFC Heavyweight Champion.

[MMM]

if mr wrestlemania didnt beat the undertaker, nobody beating the undertaker. ever.

Word, just watch dos matches a few months ago on Netflix. HBK still the showstopper

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

undertaker look like he got too much sun.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

this is what my wedding entrance is gonna be like

except longer and more epic
:lol

[MMM]

Is this gonna be worse than Lesnar vs. Goldberg???

Was that wrestlemania 18???

[MMM]

Worst match of the night

[cos88]

http://www.ultraimg.com/images/vlJ00.gif


slow motion match. pick it up

[The-Legend-24]

Undertaker looks like he's gonna die every time he wrestles. :oldlol:

[jcsrplumply]

Boooooooooooooooriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinggggggggggg

[9erempiree]

its time to retire.

[The-Legend-24]

Undertaker gon die out there. Can't even stand. :lol

[MMM]

Undertaker gon die out there. Can't even stand. :lol

The match was on the mat for 10 mins
:roll:

[BasedTom]

its time to retire.
I agree, you should retire. :bowdown:

[cos88]

the problem is undertaker at this point in his career needs someone who is great in the ring to carry him 75% of that match, like it was with hbk or cm punk last year. lesnar is not that guy, he slowed down so much in the last 4 years needs to lose so weight as well

[The-Legend-24]

The match was on the mat for 10 mins
:roll:
Win or lose, this should be Takers last. He can't go all out anymore, makes the matches boring.

[jcsrplumply]

Good counter!

[Brizzly]

kinky name

[MMM]

this. lesnar is done. so boring

He can't carry a match
Didn't he have great matches vs. Big Show in the day??

[blacknapalm]

should have just ended the match right there. this match can bring nothing but lame near falls.

please let DB go off and steal the show

[jcsrplumply]

omg worst german suplexes ever :lol
:oldlol:

[blacknapalm]

what??? for real?

[cos88]

i can't belive it :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[9erempiree]

:roll: :applause: :bowdown:

OVER.

[blacknapalm]

even lesnar's boy can't believe it :lol

[The-Legend-24]

Oh shit he won!!! :lol

[ballinhun8]

I am truly shocked.

[blacknapalm]

not gonna lie, pretty shocked. didn't see that coming at all. so does this mean this is taker's last mania match?

[BasedTom]

You lot are getting worked HARD smh

vince is rolling over laughing his ass off at you clowns

[9erempiree]

Guys....like basketball....I am also a veteran of wrestling.

This is the only year in history I said the streak was going to end.

I was right again.

Chef Cook-some-crow.

[MMM]

Was that supposed to happen????
:roll:

[mr.big35]

brock lesnar

[jcsrplumply]

Taker's retiring.

[The-Legend-24]

Brock Lesner wins the UFC heavyweight title and ends the streak. :bowdown: :bowdown:

[blacknapalm]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BklW0hSCAAAM4ct.jpg

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Brock Lesner wins the UFC heavyweight title and ends the streak. :bowdown: :bowdown:
brock is ufc champ right now?

[The-Legend-24]

if mr wrestlemania didnt beat the undertaker, nobody beating the undertaker. ever.
:lol

[The-Legend-24]

brock is ufc champ right now?
U know what I mean.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

U know what I mean.
na, i didn't..i don't watch ufc. i thought he got his asss beat in ufc?

[blacknapalm]

welp, i can't see a taker vs sting match now. even if it was a long shot to begin with...

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

hopefully ultimate warrior vs. brock main events wrestle mania 31. either that or sting vs. brett hart.

[The-Legend-24]

na, i didn't..i don't watch ufc. i thought he got his asss beat in ufc?
He won it, lost it, then was forced to retire because of some virus or some shit.

[EnoughSaid]

This makes absolutely no sense. Why Lesnar? Why couldn't they let Cena end the streak or just have Taker retire undefeated? Stupid.

[mr.big35]

time for divas match

[cos88]

this explains why divas are after for the shock to cool and also i now understand why taker destroyed lesnar for the past 6 weeks.

also outside of hogan joining to the NWO this the biggest surprise in Wrestling history

[Micku]

Oh wow. This is a shocker. A good shocker! I wonder if Taker is finally going to retire?

[bagelred]

Hey guys, just got back. How's WMXXX going? They do Taker/Brock yet? Ugh...why even bother...we all know Taker continues the streak...yawn....

Anywho, no need to check the results....later.

[Batz]

Hey guys, just got back. How's WMXXX going? They do Taker/Brock yet? Ugh...why even bother...we all know Taker continues the streak...yawn....

Anywho, no need to check the results....later.
Brah, the streaks ovar.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Hey guys, just got back. How's WMXXX going? They do Taker/Brock yet? Ugh...why even bother...we all know Taker continues the streak...yawn....

Anywho, no need to check the results....later.
:lol

[EnoughSaid]

I'm just trying to understand the creative's decision. Is Taker just tired of coming back and wanted this to be over? Even then why not just finish out with an undefeated streak? It didn't have to end. And why Brock Lesnar? A guy who left for 9 years and occasionally shows up? If anyone was going to end the streak it should have been Cena. It's just weird.

[The-Legend-24]

I'm just trying to understand the creative's decision. Is Taker just tired of coming back and wanted this to be over? Even then why not just finish out with an undefeated streak? It didn't have to end. And why Brock Lesnar? A guy who left for 9 years and occasionally shows up? If anyone was going to end the streak it should have been Cena. It's just weird.
Either it was scripted that way, or Taker was dead tired he couldn't kick out.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

wait, is that paul orndorff?

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Nice 'stache, Orndorff. :rockon:
woulda never guessed in a million years it was him.

[9erempiree]

So far I am 100% correct on all matches except Battle Royal.

[The-Legend-24]

http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/The_streak_is_over_2.gif

[bagelred]

So besides Hogan, Austin, Rock at beginning, any other surprise appearances by anyone?

[MMM]

First WWE heavyweight champ???

Wasn't that Y2J when he was undisputed champ

[BasedTom]

The crowd was absolutely gutted by that result. I'm not sure if it was genius or shit writing.

The match itself was pretty shit though

[MMM]

How many countries are there according to flags tonight?

Israel
Canada
Australia

[blacknapalm]

omg if hhh screws DB, raw crowd tomorrow is going to shit on them endlessly

[MMM]

Randy ****ed his back

[jcsrplumply]

CM PUNK :oldlol:

[jcsrplumply]

Get well soon Bryan :cry: :cry:

[jcsrplumply]

Looking like a zombie daniel.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

that's fcked up.

[mr.big35]

won against all odds. triple h cheating never works

[jcsrplumply]

Awesome pop!

[jcsrplumply]

No injuries again.

[9erempiree]

The wrong guy won.:facepalm

Batista should have won and then he can feud with Cena.

[oh the horror]

The wrong guy won.:facepalm

Batista should have won and then he can feud with Cena.



Batista and Cena? That would have been cool 5 years ago dude.

[EnoughSaid]

Sting better come out tomorrow night and challenge Taker for this career at the next WM. But at the same time I don't know how it'd work.

[9erempiree]

I never liked the Yes, Yes, Yes crap. People are going to turn on Bryan like they do with Cena.

It is starting to get embarrassing because DB is forcing these yes chants.

Suddenly his shoulder is ok to do yes, yes yes:facepalm

[Draz]

Heard undertaker lost

[The-Legend-24]

Sting better come out tomorrow night and challenge Taker for this career at the next WM. But at the same time I don't know how it'd work.
Nah. Taker can't take it anymore, he was on his back for like 10 minutes straight ffs.

[The-Legend-24]

I miss that match, but was Taker that bad in the ring?

All I know is that Taker seems to use all of what he had left in the tank on Taker vs Michaels series already according to matches against Triple H and CM Punk.
He was on his back the whole match it seemed, dude was huffin and puffin like crazy.

That last F5 fvcked him up bad doe.

[EnoughSaid]

Could be the result of not having regular year-long wrestling schedule, losing stamina.

Most top old guys who keep on wrestling and have no major injuries can hang in there for long matches regardless of age i.e. Ric Flair, Terry Funk, Tenryu Genichirou etc. Undertaker must have some kind of injuries that make it impossible to endure pro wrestling schedule even for some months. He used to wrestle a month or two entering WrestleMania but hasn't done that in the last two years I believe.

Look at Batista for example. Sure he left, but he was training for MMA, trimming his body fat or whatever, and he gets gassed after 5 minutes. It's only ever realistic to go for a full match and perform at a high level if one of the two wrestlers is full of energy and can go on for hours.

Taker needed a flashier, quicker wrestler for his match. Brock wasn't the one for him.

Ehh let's see where this shit goes. Still confused and have so many questions.

[Brujesino]

Man what a Wrestlemania:bowdown:

Taker losing blew my mind D-Bry winning was awesome.I dont think there was a single awful match at all.

[Fawker]

undertaker most matches ever in all ppv events. this guy been through all eras.

[oh the horror]

Fans are mad because Brock is part-time? OK but that doesn't make him less of a challenger.

Like the Rock, Lesnar is the only other WWE superstar to make a name for himself outside the WWE. He did that with UFC, he basically put UFC on the mainstream map. For that reason, Brock was the biggest name the Undertaker faced during the Streak.

Good choice to end the streak with Brock.



Yes but wrestling purists probably prefer someone dedicated to the business a bit more. Having "a name outside of wrestling" doesn't say much for your average wrestling fan. Seems like an odd choice considering there are some talents along the years within wwe that put in serious work.

[The-Legend-24]

https://twitter.com/Abadie26/status/453027412310102018

Like I said, he looked like he was gonna pass out.

[PullupJay]

Lemme get this straight.

This Goat face vanilla midget goes from losing to Sheamus in 18 seconds, to beating Triple H,Batista,and Randy Ortan all in one night.


:oldlol: :eek:

[Nick Young]

He's okay, he's been getting a huge push. He broke the record for most eliminations in the royal rumble

http://24.media.tumblr.com/eb1d7cea13160cdd40d501e101a43c0e/tumblr_mztuxbDR4c1qevcs2o1_400.gif


Seth Rollins is better though
Yeh this guy doing all the super man punches was pretty charismatic and exciting, he can be a main eventer one day I think, assuming he has charisma on the mic.

I wanted stone cold or rock to come in and save bryan from triple H at the end, disappointed none of them did any fighting. That would have been RIDICULOUS.:rockon:

[Nick Young]

Ok here's what I am still iffy about in terms of the fixed ness of wrestling.


Now I know the whole HHH/Steph vs Bryan thing is fixed and they are all playing characters.

But at the same time WWE does always push ortons and batistas ahead of the talented wrestling Daniel Bryan types because the Batistas and Ortons are more marketable in terms of crossover appeal.

Do HHH/Steph and Daniel Bryan and all of them all get along backstage, or do you think those guys do have political sway and HHH for example is pushing his guys Orton and Batista bot just as part of his character but in real life too?

Like do all these wrestlers get along in real life or is it all political competition backstage to get in Vince McMahons good books?


The Miz for example, wtf happened with that guy, they were desperately pushing him to be a super star a few years ago, now he is a jobber losing midmatch in a battle royale. What happened there? Did he piss people off behind the scenes?

That's the part I still dont understand.

Like a guy like Kofi Kingston, does all these crazy moves, gets the crowd going, why doesnt WWE ever push those exciting wrestlers and always push the boring John Cena and Randy Orton types?

[The Iron Sheik]

Fans are mad because Brock is part-time? OK but that doesn't make him less of a challenger.

Like the Rock, Lesnar is the only other WWE superstar to make a name for himself outside the WWE. He did that with UFC, he basically put UFC on the mainstream map. For that reason, Brock was the biggest name the Undertaker faced during the Streak.

Good choice to end the streak with Brock.

it's not that brock is part time. it's just that there was no real build up in the feud between him and taker. brock wasn't even made to look like a legit challenge. in 2 out of the 3 skirmishes they had leading up to the match, brock either got his ass kicked or acted scared of undertaker. i mean, it's hard to build a feud between 1 guy who's part time and another who only wrestles once a year, but at least do something more with it, like punk and taker last year.

that said, i'm not mad bork won. hopefully this squashes all of the sting vs. taker rumors/hopes for next year.

[The Iron Sheik]

i'm kinda surprised naomi didn't win the belt off aj since they've been giving her a push on total divas and mania is usually where faces win out. i think it's time the funkadactyls split though

[Nick Young]

i'm kinda surprised naomi didn't win the belt off aj since they've been giving her a push on total divas and mania is usually where faces win out. i think it's time the funkadactyls split though
I thought that move AJ did to win was really really sick though.

I havent watched wrestling for like 10 years but I thought the standards of the divas wrestling wise seemed pretty high to what they were when I used to watch. Shame they quit doing the bra and panties matches.

[ForeverHeat]

Ok here's what I am still iffy about in terms of the fixed ness of wrestling.


Now I know the whole HHH/Steph vs Bryan thing is fixed and they are all playing characters.

But at the same time WWE does always push ortons and batistas ahead of the talented wrestling Daniel Bryan types because the Batistas and Ortons are more marketable in terms of crossover appeal.

Do HHH/Steph and Daniel Bryan and all of them all get along backstage, or do you think those guys do have political sway and HHH for example is pushing his guys Orton and Batista bot just as part of his character but in real life too?

Like do all these wrestlers get along in real life or is it all political competition backstage to get in Vince McMahons good books?


The Miz for example, wtf happened with that guy, they were desperately pushing him to be a super star a few years ago, now he is a jobber losing midmatch in a battle royale. What happened there? Did he piss people off behind the scenes?

That's the part I still dont understand.

Like a guy like Kofi Kingston, does all these crazy moves, gets the crowd going, why doesnt WWE ever push those exciting wrestlers and always push the boring John Cena and Randy Orton types?

I think Kaiteng is wrong, they certainly do not get along. WWE is a cutthroat business, where a failing star can get fired in an instant. Theres always fighting for the top spots, and guys like Triple H definitely have their favourites. In fact, Triple H is the one who trained Sheamus, thats the reason Sheamus got the title so quickly after his debut. There have also been many stories of backstage animosity between certain workers. There is definitely some shady politics in WWE.

The thing that WWE do though is they play off these real life storylines that the hardcore fans know about, and work it into the scripted storylines to spice things up.And example is when The Rock and John Cena had real life beef back in 2005/6 so when the Rock returned they played off that to some extent, using the "real life" beef as a catalyst for their "show" beef if you get what I mean.

[The Iron Sheik]

Other than Total Divas, those won't be given much air time to do anything better anyway. I don't see the point of breaking up Funkadactyls.

mainly because i hate cameron lol. but you're right. none of the divas will be getting more airtime other than aj. she's the most over diva since lita and trish. hopefully they put her an actual storyline. maybe she'll start feuding with tamina.

off topic: i don't know how tamina is allowed to be employed by wwe when david benoit isn't.

[The Iron Sheik]

Raw tonight is gonna be great

hopefully sheild gets lots of time since they were screwed over so taker could spend 15 mins leaving the ring

post wm raw is always awesome. the crowd is gonna be so hot.

[TheMarkMadsen]

I thought WM was amazing, an unforgettable main event moment with Bryan going over against incredible odds to win the gold and end with 75,000 people chanting "YES".

Bryan the peoples champion going over reminded me of WM 14 as this could be the WM that cemented Bryan as a mega star in professional wrestling

Cesaro with a great show of strength, looks like he'll be getting a well deserved push

Cena v Wyatt was great, crowd was really into Wyatt, they did a wonderful job at telling a story, Bray Wyatt is the real deal..

Possibly the most shocking moment in WWE history when Brock beat the streak, now with Taker losing, Brock Lesnar will be the new Wrestlemania phenom.

Taker is a true pro, by ending the streak they will get more out of it than they would have with Taker never ending the streak.

Hoping for Sting to intterupt a Taker retirment speech tonight to challenge him for their final match at next years Mania.


Top 5 WM all time IMO..

With former UFC champion Brock Lesnar ending the Undertaker's streak..the REALITY ERA is officially here :cheers:

[The Iron Sheik]

did anyone else enjoy triple h's shao kahn entrance as much as i did? i've never been a big hhh fan, but i've thoroughly enjoyed him in the weeks leading up to wm and at mania itself.

[16X]

Went to my buddies place to watch WM. I died a little inside when CM Punk was strongly rumoured to show up in Chicago, and then didn't, and I haven't watched the past couple Raws, but I didn't want to miss Bryan's big night.

I dozed off during Taker vs Brock and missed the streak getting broken :lol I didn't really like what I saw of the match that much, but I'm happy for Brock. I always said that if Taker retired without taking an L at Mania, I was going to lose a huge amount of respect for him. He did the right thing for business.

The main reason I wanted to watch Mania was for D-Bry's two matches, and I enjoyed them both very much. The title win was an awesome moment.

[9erempiree]

did anyone else enjoy triple h's shao kahn entrance as much as i did? i've never been a big hhh fan, but i've thoroughly enjoyed him in the weeks leading up to wm and at mania itself.

Nipple H's entrances are comedy to me. I don't like his entrances like most people do. Not in the way I think it is great.

I like them because I think it is funny for a supposed bad ass to play dress up before coming out to a match.

[ForeverHeat]

They have to get along. They are professional. They get along professionally. Especially those lower-tier guys some surely want to stick around because of better pays, much better than anywhere else. Backstage politics exists, yes, but what they do that affect sales still matters more. That's why Cena, Bryan, and soon Cesaro are getting pushed despite Triple H having his pals Batista, Randy Orton and Sheamus available for those spots.

Oh yeah, money is definitely numero uno. I just meant that while it is acted, there is serious competition for places backstage and guys dont always play fair.

[TheMarkMadsen]

please god no

just retire

but not tonight don't take up time on the best raw of the year

why not?

The build up/spectacle of Sting v Taker would be worth it alone. Match might be shit but who cares, so was Piper v Hogan in 97 but it was a dream match that fans wanted to see.

as long as Sting v Taker isn't the focal point of WM i'd love to see the dream match and then have both men retire.

[9erempiree]

Please no more dream matches. Lets face it they are in a match for namesake. I don't care who you are but when you put on a crap match, it is a crap match regardless the name.

[shortsoptional]

Yes but wrestling purists probably prefer someone dedicated to the business a bit more. Having "a name outside of wrestling" doesn't say much for your average wrestling fan. Seems like an odd choice considering there are some talents along the years within wwe that put in serious work.


That's how I felt. Not that I think the streak should have never been broken (though I would have been ok with it not), but giving it to Brock didn't seem right to me. If you break the streak, you can take that achievement to further WWE's product with a guy who will be there at least once a week...or atleast be at all the PPV's.

But maybe this is what Undertaker wanted. Maybe he wants the streak broken like this... in a somewhat meaningless fashion because he didn't want it to be what defined him. Cause lets face it, that's what it was coming down to. He's done amazing things over the years, but all anyone talked about was the streak.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Please no more dream matches. Lets face it they are in a match for namesake. I don't care who you are but when you put on a crap match, it is a crap match regardless the name.


disagree completely,

i'd rather watch 2 characters who i'm actually invested put on a show, than 2 generic ROH wrestlers have a match with no back story that will most likely be a spot fest with no emotion or ring psychology.


Stone Cold became a megastar during a time when all his matches consisted of kicks punches and stunners.. The characters sell the story.

I'd rather watch Sting v Taker at WM than watch an AJ Styles spot fest from 04

[TheMarkMadsen]

That's how I felt. Not that I think the streak should have never been broken (though I would have been ok with it not), but giving it to Brock didn't seem right to me. If you break the streak, you can take that achievement to further WWE's product with a guy who will be there at least once a week...or atleast be at all the PPV's.

But maybe this is what Undertaker wanted. Maybe he wants the streak broken like this... in a somewhat meaningless fashion because he didn't want it to be what defined him. Cause lets face it, that's what it was coming down to. He's done amazing things over the years, but all anyone talked about was the streak.

That's exactly what they did.

Brock Lesnar is not only a huge name in the world of wrestling, but in the world of sports..

casual fans know he's a legit bad ass, Taker can't keep the streak alive forever, so who better than Brock Lesnar to carry on the gimmick of "wrestlemania phenom" then a legit monster in Brock Lesnar.

By having Brock win last night WWE can now ride on the legacy of the streak/ the guy who beat the streak for the next 10 years..

[The Iron Sheik]

Nipple H's entrances are comedy to me. I don't like his entrances like most people do. Not in the way I think it is great.

I like them because I think it is funny for a supposed bad ass to play dress up before coming out to a match.

i just like how he's been fully embracing the character that internet smarks claim he is. the whole shovel stuff, his "you're not even real cops", etc. that entrance just solidified everything he's been doing that last few months.

[The Iron Sheik]

why not?

The build up/spectacle of Sting v Taker would be worth it alone. Match might be shit but who cares, so was Piper v Hogan in 97 but it was a dream match that fans wanted to see.

as long as Sting v Taker isn't the focal point of WM i'd love to see the dream match and then have both men retire.

both guys are way over the hill. would i mark out if taker beat bork and sting was in the rafters pointing at him with a bat? sure. but that match would be awful and really serve no purpose. it was undertaker's decision to put brock over and it was a good one.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Putting Brock over before letting him back to the wild in one thing. Having the Streak ending as the landmark WM moment that people will remember for a long time is another.

Sting would do okay with WWE as a regular performer though seeing how good he was with TNA.


Yeah people are really underestimating Sting. He just had a hardcore match with Bully Ray a few months back where he was taking some really good bumps

give him a year to train for one match?.. he'll be fine. Plus this way Taker can face Sting w/o the streak being on the line (Taker v Sting doesn't need the streak to sell ppvs)

Sting can still go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYdhutLy5IQ

[CelticBaller]

I woke up and my boy told me undertaker lost on my way to the gym

I think I died little

[ForeverHeat]

I woke up and my boy told me undertaker lost on my way to the gym

I think I died little

Its just sad tbh, my whole life that streak was going and now its no more.

[shortsoptional]

That's exactly what they did.

Brock Lesnar is not only a huge name in the world of wrestling, but in the world of sports..

casual fans know he's a legit bad ass, Taker can't keep the streak alive forever, so who better than Brock Lesnar to carry on the gimmick of "wrestlemania phenom" then a legit monster in Brock Lesnar.

By having Brock win last night WWE can now ride on the legacy of the streak/ the guy who beat the streak for the next 10 years..


And I'm fine with it if he's actually performing and showing up on a regular basis...but if Lesnar starts doing exactly what Taker was doing (showing up once a year to beat someone), then I feel they missed an opportunity to get someone extreme heat or launch a career in to stardom. Having someone duplicate what the Taker just did for 10 years isn't my idea of something that really helps the WWE product. In fact I think it hurts it with predictability.

[riseagainst]

i was really rooting for CM punk to return last night. I guess him leaving WWE was for real.

Pretty sure WWE intended for CM Punk to beat the streak but he left before the event and WWE had to fill someone in as a replacement.