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aboss4real24
04-07-2014, 03:00 PM
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Where would they Rank?

They would prolly be Below Every1 beside The spurs

Being the fact that they beat Them in The Finals,

If The spurs Win another 1 , That will change tho
Especially if They Win In the finals vs the heat

iTare
04-07-2014, 03:01 PM
matters how they win it.

ImKobe
04-07-2014, 03:09 PM
Above the Spurs.

As great as the Spurs have been in the regular season, they never even made it to 2 straight Finals. If Miami wins 3 straight, they'd already have 4 Finals appearances & 3 rings, 1 Finals appearance & 1 ring shy of what the Spurs have accomplished in 15 years, while the Big 3 was formed just 4 years ago.

No one's topping the 90s Bulls or the 2000-2010 Lakers.

aj1987
04-07-2014, 03:34 PM
Above the Spurs.

As great as the Spurs have been in the regular season, they never even made it to 2 straight Finals. If Miami wins 3 straight, they'd already have 4 Finals appearances & 3 rings, 1 Finals appearance & 1 ring shy of what the Spurs have accomplished in 15 years, while the Big 3 was formed just 4 years ago.

No one's topping the 90s Bulls or the 2000-2010 Lakers.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Belongs in the "Dumbest things said on ISH" thread.

TheMarkMadsen
04-07-2014, 03:41 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Belongs in the "Dumbest things said on ISH" thread.

yeah 5 titles and 7 finals from 00-10.. so many other teams have done this.. laughable that they would even be considered..

it's ridiculous in your opinion to mention the Lakers who made 7 finals and won 5 titles in their decade but you're totally ok with the Bulls who won 6 titles and made 6 finals in their decade..

:lol

JohnMax
04-07-2014, 03:43 PM
If we're going to count 2000 to 2010. Than 2006 Heat need to be included.

aboss4real24
04-07-2014, 03:47 PM
If we're going to count 2000 to 2010. Than 2006 Heat need to be included.

bet he didnt think about that :lol

aj1987
04-07-2014, 03:50 PM
yeah 5 titles and 7 finals from 00-10.. so many other teams have done this.. laughable that they would even be considered..

it's ridiculous in your opinion to mention the Lakers who made 7 finals and won 5 titles in their decade but you're totally ok with the Bulls who won 6 titles and made 6 finals in their decade..

:lol
Once again, you prove your stupidity. The 3peat Lakers and the '08-'11 Lakers are completely different. You can't just club those runs together and call them a dynasty as a whole. They ****ing missed the playoffs during that stretch and even got knocked out in the first rounds.

Thunderfan86
04-07-2014, 03:52 PM
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Bandito
04-07-2014, 03:57 PM
Between 2000-2002 lakers and the heat is a tossup. The 09 - 10 lakers are not in the conversation as they didnt threepeat.

SwayDizzle
04-07-2014, 04:06 PM
Once again, you prove your stupidity. The 3peat Lakers and the '08-'11 Lakers are completely different. You can't just club those runs together and call them a dynasty as a whole. They ****ing missed the playoffs during that stretch and even got knocked out in the first rounds.
You're right, you can't group them. The 00-02 Lakers were a diff beast to that of the 08-11 Lakers. In my opinion, we cannot consider them one single dynasty because the core changed. If the Heat win it all this year, then they rank on par with the 00-02 Lakers. If they lose at any point other than the Finals, then they rank just below the 08-11 Lakers. A lot is at stake here ;)

guy
04-07-2014, 04:10 PM
yeah 5 titles and 7 finals from 00-10.. so many other teams have done this.. laughable that they would even be considered..

it's ridiculous in your opinion to mention the Lakers who made 7 finals and won 5 titles in their decade but you're totally ok with the Bulls who won 6 titles and made 6 finals in their decade..

:lol

Lumping the 00-02 Lakers with the 08-10 Lakers would be like lumping the 06 Heat with the 11-14 Heat. Way too much time in between passed and too many of the major players changed.

aj1987
04-07-2014, 04:13 PM
You're right, you can't group them. The 00-02 Lakers were a diff beast to that of the 08-11 Lakers. In my opinion, we cannot consider them one single dynasty because the core changed. If the Heat win it all this year, then they rank on par with the 00-02 Lakers. If they lose at any point other than the Finals, then they rank just below the 08-11 Lakers. A lot is at stake here ;)
I still think the 3peat Lakers would beat the Heat. Especially the '13 and '14 Heat. That team had PEAK Shaq. Dude was flat out nasty in the playoffs and Kobe also was at his defensive best.

wally_world
04-07-2014, 04:20 PM
http://i.minus.com/ie2XlvbSSvYd4.gif



This gif :bowdown:

sportjames23
04-07-2014, 04:22 PM
As good as any other dynasty in league history.

Especially if they win it this year. This year is one of the more stacked years in recent memory.


You're kidding, right?

Rose'sACL
04-07-2014, 04:27 PM
if they beat thunder again then they would be one of the best given how talented OKC is. like magic and bird, bron and kd would be a great matchup to see.
Bron is already in top 10 all time and KD looks like he will get there to most probably. If KD does go on and ends up as a top 10 player all time then heat's rings would look better even though spurs are a tougher matchup for heat but 20 years from now, most people would not know that.
This is what i missed during 90s. 2 top 10 all time caliber players going against each other in the finals.

TheMarkMadsen
04-07-2014, 04:37 PM
Lumping the 00-02 Lakers with the 08-10 Lakers would be like lumping the 06 Heat with the 11-14 Heat. Way too much time in between passed and too many of the major players changed.

the guy was lumping together decades, 90 bulls, 2000's Lakers..

it's not about the players it's about the organization.. the 2000 Spurs are considered a dynasty and have had mutliple rosters with only a few constants just like the 2000 Lakers and 90's BUlls

TheMarkMadsen
04-07-2014, 04:43 PM
Once again, you prove your stupidity. The 3peat Lakers and the '08-'11 Lakers are completely different. You can't just club those runs together and call them a dynasty as a whole. They ****ing missed the playoffs during that stretch and even got knocked out in the first rounds.

you reeek of insecurity, anytime somebody disagrees with you you'll automatically call them stupid or something, grow up dude.


the 90's Bulls and the 2000 Lakers shared similar success, Bulls were obviously more successful..

however when boiled down the Bulls won 6 titles in the 90's and the Lakers won 5 from 00-10.. not a huge difference, to act like comparing the two franchise's success during that period is "the dumbest thing said on ISH" just shows how petty you are when it comes to giving credit to a team that you weren't a fan of.

guy
04-07-2014, 04:49 PM
the guy was lumping together decades, 90 bulls, 2000's Lakers..

it's not about the players it's about the organization.. the 2000 Spurs are considered a dynasty and have had mutliple rosters with only a few constants just like the 2000 Lakers and 90's BUlls

I wouldn't really consider the Spurs a dynasty for a number of reasons. I don't know. Obviously there's no set definition on what a dynasty is. The late 00s Lakers just felt much more like a different team then the early 00s Lakers. I guess it just has to do with Shaq because he was such a dominating presence on that team. Same thing goes for the 06 Heat and current Heat because the 06 Heat don't have Lebron. Not to mention so much time in between.

TheMarkMadsen
04-07-2014, 05:06 PM
I wouldn't really consider the Spurs a dynasty for a number of reasons. I don't know. Obviously there's no set definition on what a dynasty is. The late 00s Lakers just felt much more like a different team then the early 00s Lakers. I guess it just has to do with Shaq because he was such a dominating presence on that team. Same thing goes for the 06 Heat and current Heat because the 06 Heat don't have Lebron. Not to mention so much time in between.

well neither do I since they never won b2b, but it seems to be the popular opinion on ISH that they are a dynasty.

and yeah the early 2000 Lakers and late 2000 Lakers are very different, Kobe, Pjax & Fish being the only constant.

The way i'm looking at it is (and the way I believe ImKobe was looking at it) would be 'Did organization X do enough during X time period to be considered "dynasty" worthy'

Nash
04-07-2014, 05:26 PM
3 peat and 4 straight finals? High.

NumberSix
04-07-2014, 05:31 PM
1. Celtics
2. Bulls
3. Heat

fpliii
04-07-2014, 05:36 PM
What's a dynasty? 3 or more rings with the same core? So, chronologically:

1) Mikan Lakers
2) Russell Celtics
(ABA: Indiana Pacers)
3) Showtime Lakers
4) Bird Celtics
5) Jordan Bulls (should we consider the threepeats separately?)
6) Duncan Spurs (does 99 count?)
7) Kobe-Shaq Lakers
8) Current Heat

Am I missing any?

HOoopCityJones
04-07-2014, 05:37 PM
1. Celtics
2. Bulls
3. Heat

15-1 son. :lol

Your boys aren't even in the same ball park.

TheMarkMadsen
04-07-2014, 05:40 PM
What's a dynasty? 3 or more rings with the same core? So, chronologically:

1) Mikan Lakers
2) Russell Celtics
(ABA: Indiana Pacers)
3) Showtime Lakers
4) Bird Celtics
5) Jordan Bulls (should we consider the threepeats separately?)
6) Duncan Spurs (does 99 count?)
7) Kobe-Shaq Lakers
8) Current Heat

Am I missing any:

Before ever getting on ISH i remember thinking that there was somewhat of a consensus that the 99 season deserved an *. I remember back in before 03 the Spurs & Duncan were always slighted when that 99 ring was brought up and many people thought the entire season, not just the champs, deserved an *

I think that most of that talk slowly went away as the Spurs won in 03 & 05, but that year was quite literally not like any other year prior, which allowed for some pretty fluky things to happen

plus the way the scheduling was set up was a joke, it absolutly killed veteran teams like the Jazz who would have benefited greatly if they had played the regular, more spaced out 82 game season..

NumberSix
04-07-2014, 05:41 PM
15-1 son. :lol

Your boys aren't even in the same ball park.
4 straight finals doe.

Solefade
04-07-2014, 05:44 PM
2002 lakers got a gift wrapped ring from tim donaghy and co. so nope.

1. Bulls
2. Celtics/Heat
3. Celtics/Heat

Suguru101
04-07-2014, 05:45 PM
What's a dynasty? 3 or more rings with the same core? So, chronologically:

1) Mikan Lakers
2) Russell Celtics
(ABA: Indiana Pacers)
3) Showtime Lakers
4) Bird Celtics
5) Jordan Bulls (should we consider the threepeats separately?)
6) Duncan Spurs (does 99 count?)
7) Kobe-Shaq Lakers
8) Current Heat

Am I missing any?

How would the Bird Celtics rank higher than the Heat if they 3-peat? And Russell's Celtics should be number one on all lists... 8 straight.

fpliii
04-07-2014, 05:46 PM
Before ever getting on ISH i remember thinking that there was somewhat of a consensus that the 99 season deserved an *. I remember back in before 03 the Spurs & Duncan were always slighted when that 99 ring was brought up and many people thought the entire season, not just the champs, deserved an *

I think that most of that talk slowly went away as the Spurs won in 03 & 05, but that year was quite literally not like any other year prior, which allowed for some pretty fluky things to happen

plus the way the scheduling was set up was a joke, it absolutly killed veteran teams like the Jazz who would have benefited greatly if they had played the regular, more spaced out 82 game season..
Oh no, you misunderstood me. I think the regular season deserves an *, but I'm strongly opposed to one for the playoffs. They played the entire postseason, it's good enough for me (I understand if you disagree, though).

My point was that the core wasn't all there (that was present for the other three rings), and Robinson was arguably as important as Duncan on the 99 team (or at least close).

fpliii
04-07-2014, 05:47 PM
How would the Bird Celtics rank higher than the Heat if they 3-peat? And Russell's Celtics should be number one on all lists... 8 straight.
As I said:


What's a dynasty? 3 or more rings with the same core? So, chronologically:

1) Mikan Lakers
2) Russell Celtics
(ABA: Indiana Pacers)
3) Showtime Lakers
4) Bird Celtics
5) Jordan Bulls (should we consider the threepeats separately?)
6) Duncan Spurs (does 99 count?)
7) Kobe-Shaq Lakers
8) Current Heat

Am I missing any?
:D

I didn't rank them. Though with regards to the Celtics, I personally think the 86 team is the GOAT, so there's that argument.

TheMarkMadsen
04-07-2014, 05:50 PM
Oh no, you misunderstood me. I think the regular season deserves an *, but I'm strongly opposed to one for the playoffs. They played the entire postseason, it's good enough for me (I understand if you disagree, though).

My point was that the core wasn't all there (that was present for the other three rings), and Robinson was arguably as important as Duncan on the 99 team (or at least close).

oh ok yeah i miss understood, and fair enough, different discussion for a different day since I don't want to derail this topic

tpols
04-07-2014, 06:06 PM
2002 lakers got a gift wrapped ring from tim donaghy and co. so nope.

1. Bulls
2. Celtics/Heat
3. Celtics/Heat
If the early 2000 lakers were in the east right now they'd make the finals 4 or 5 times in a row without breaking a sweat

Solefade
04-07-2014, 06:08 PM
If the early 2000 lakers were in the east right now they'd make the finals 4 or 5 times in a row without breaking a sweat

you sure about that? you barely beat a kings squad 8v5 that the heat would definitely smash on today.

red1
04-07-2014, 06:09 PM
If the early 2000 lakers were in the east right now they'd make the finals 4 or 5 times in a row without breaking a sweat
If the heat got that lakers-kings treatment vs dallas then they would have won the series and been going for their 4th this year without breaking a sweat

red1
04-07-2014, 06:11 PM
you sure about that? you barely beat a kings squad 8v5 that the heat would definitely smash on today.
:lol lakers fans will never stop hearing about that kings series

tpols
04-07-2014, 06:13 PM
If the heat got that lakers-kings treatment vs dallas then they would have won the series and been going for their 4th this year without breaking a sweat
With lebron choking? It wouldn't have mattered. He wasn't even attacking the basket.. that would take phantom fouls to a new dimension

red1
04-07-2014, 06:17 PM
With lebron choking? It wouldn't have mattered. He wasn't even attacking the basket.. that would take phantom fouls to a new dimension
Even including the choke they still almost won that series. The refs couldve easily shut down that mavs comeback in game two with just one bad call. The heat are the ultimate frontrunning team so I doubt the mavs would be able to come back from being down 2. Just sayin broski

k0kakw0rld
04-07-2014, 06:36 PM
http://i.minus.com/ie2XlvbSSvYd4.gif

:pimp: :bowdown:

sd3035
04-07-2014, 06:39 PM
2 and a half peat you mean

kamil
04-07-2014, 06:41 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Belongs in the "Dumbest things said on ISH" thread.

You idiot, 72-10 is an NBA record and that has NOT been topped. Bulls also hold the second best record of 69-13. You gonna act like your asterisk plagued team is superior??

Piss off.

Megabox!
04-07-2014, 07:05 PM
You idiot, 72-10 is an NBA record and that has NOT been topped. Bulls also hold the second best record of 69-13. You gonna act like your asterisk plagued team is superior??

Piss off.
:facepalm I'm pretty sure he was talking about the Lakers

Just2McFly
04-07-2014, 07:23 PM
If the early 2000 lakers were in the east right now they'd make the finals 4 or 5 times in a row without breaking a sweat
:coleman:

you need to let this east shit go because you are forgetting about Detroit

tpols
04-07-2014, 07:28 PM
:coleman:

you need to let this east shit go because you are forgetting about Detroit

Isn't Ben Wallace in jail right now?

CelticBaller
04-07-2014, 07:29 PM
the greatest

JT123
04-07-2014, 07:36 PM
You idiot, 72-10 is an NBA record and that has NOT been topped. Bulls also hold the second best record of 69-13. You gonna act like your asterisk plagued team is superior??

Piss off.
Sorry, but the 95-96 season has a huge * next to it because of 2 expansion teams entering the league. :confusedshrug: No expansion teams, no 72 wins.

sportjames23
04-07-2014, 10:31 PM
Sorry, but the 95-96 season has a huge * next to it because of 2 expansion teams entering the league. :confusedshrug: No expansion teams, no 72 wins.


So the Heat should get an * because they play in the sorry ass Eastern Conference of today then?

oh the horror
04-07-2014, 10:33 PM
All I'll say is, this heat team has reached epic levels of being severely overrated.

zoom17
04-07-2014, 10:36 PM
All I'll say is, this heat team has reached epic levels of being severely overrated.

Thought There were the most stacked team of all time:hammerhead:

red1
04-07-2014, 10:37 PM
All I'll say is, this heat team has reached epic levels of being severely overrated.
so you are saying they would rank number one?

oh the horror
04-07-2014, 10:43 PM
so you are saying they would rank number one?

Shit, I'm sure some of their fans already rate them that high.

The-Legend-24
04-07-2014, 10:53 PM
Lockout win + refs = Near the bottom.

kamil
04-07-2014, 11:10 PM
Sorry, but the 95-96 season has a huge * next to it because of 2 expansion teams entering the league. :confusedshrug: No expansion teams, no 72 wins.

Impressive logic, bonehead. You make it seem as if Vancouver was an eastern conference team that the bulls had to face of multiple times. I suppose with all the scrub teams in the east today Miami should easily get as many wins, no?

This Heat team you're furiously *********ing to won't even get to 60 wins. IMPRESSIVE ALL TIME CALIBRE TEAM. :rolleyes:

hahaitme
04-07-2014, 11:15 PM
Most stacked team of all time..
..but can't compare to other dynasties

Miami Cheat, DWhistle, LeFlop..
..whole team has less FTA in 2013 finals than just Pau & Kobe in 2010 finals

3 Allstars on one team..
.."wouldn't even trade my bench players for Wade"

:rolleyes:

Angel Face
04-07-2014, 11:20 PM
Cheapest 3peat ever... 3 peat won't happen BTW.

zoom17
04-07-2014, 11:26 PM
Cheapest 3peat ever... 3 peat won't happen BTW.

Who's beating them?

AnaheimLakers24
04-07-2014, 11:27 PM
at the bottom butthey wont even get there lol

LongLiveTheKing
04-07-2014, 11:29 PM
Most stacked team of all time..
..but can't compare to other dynasties

Miami Cheat, DWhistle, LeFlop..
..whole team has less FTA in 2013 finals than just Pau & Kobe in 2010 finals

3 Allstars on one team..
.."wouldn't even trade my bench players for Wade"

:rolleyes:
:applause:

HoopsFanNumero1
04-07-2014, 11:30 PM
Near the very top.

livinglegend
04-07-2014, 11:33 PM
Most stacked team of all time..
..but can't compare to other dynasties

Miami Cheat, DWhistle, LeFlop..
..whole team has less FTA in 2013 finals than just Pau & Kobe in 2010 finals

3 Allstars on one team..
.."wouldn't even trade my bench players for Wade"

:rolleyes:

:oldlol: :oldlol: :applause:
Heat haters :oldlol:

dude77
04-07-2014, 11:34 PM
they need more .. lebron and company need to stick it out and really make this a special run and 4 PEAT or more .. and then they'll really set themselves apart .. no one can question them if they do that

livinglegend
04-07-2014, 11:34 PM
Impressive logic, bonehead. You make it seem as if Vancouver was an eastern conference team that the bulls had to face of multiple times. I suppose with all the scrub teams in the east today Miami should easily get as many wins, no?

This Heat team you're furiously *********ing to won't even get to 60 wins. IMPRESSIVE ALL TIME CALIBRE TEAM. :rolleyes:

I thought they were the most stacked team of all time. :oldlol: :oldlol:
Oops. Now you are struck.

dude77
04-07-2014, 11:35 PM
Cheapest 3peat ever... 3 peat won't happen BTW.

fggts are so fkn mad .. I bet you were saying the same shit last year and the year before :oldlol:

Angel Face
04-07-2014, 11:36 PM
Who's beating them?

Bulls, if somehow they reached the finals Thunder beats them. :pimp:

livinglegend
04-07-2014, 11:38 PM
Bulls, if somehow they reached the finals Thunder beats them. :pimp:

:facepalm
I think you should go back and hide inside Jordan s hole.

JT123
04-07-2014, 11:39 PM
I thought they were the most stacked team of all time. :oldlol: :oldlol:
Oops. Now you are struck.
These idiots can't even stick to one opinion. :roll: :roll:
If we try and compare the Heat to other dynasties, then the Heat are the worst championship team of all time. But if they wanna discredit Lebron, suddenly the Heat are the most stacked team EVER! :wtf: :facepalm

Angel Face
04-07-2014, 11:41 PM
fggts are so fkn mad .. I bet you were saying the same shit last year and the year before :oldlol:

I ain't no mad, already experienced watching my favorite team win 2 3peats during the 90s. And heat will have the cheapest 3peat if it ever happen. But it won't...

kamil
04-08-2014, 12:33 AM
I ain't no mad, already experienced watching my favorite team win 2 3peats during the 90s. And heat will have the cheapest 3peat if it ever happen. But it won't...

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.

aj1987
04-08-2014, 12:47 AM
You idiot, 72-10 is an NBA record and that has NOT been topped. Bulls also hold the second best record of 69-13. You gonna act like your asterisk plagued team is superior??

Piss off.
Before you call someone else an idiot, make sure that you yourself aren't one.
I wasn't talking about the Bulls and I didn't even mention them in my post. Idiot.


you reeek of insecurity, anytime somebody disagrees with you you'll automatically call them stupid or something, grow up dude.
You're the dude who goes into EVERY LeBron thread, just to bag on him and you're calling others insecure? :oldlol:



the 90's Bulls and the 2000 Lakers shared similar success, Bulls were obviously more successful..
however when boiled down the Bulls won 6 titles in the 90's and the Lakers won 5 from 00-10.. not a huge difference, to act like comparing the two franchise's success during that period is "the dumbest thing said on ISH"
The Bulls won their 6 rings in 8 years, with 2 years gap between the 2 3peats. The Lakers took 11 years, with COMPLETELY different teams and with a 6 year gap between the 3peat and 2peat. The Kobe-Gasol Lakers aren't a dynasty.



just shows how petty you are when it comes to giving credit to a team that you weren't a fan of.
It's not me, brah. You just don't understand how dynasties work. If you look it up, I gave the Shaq-Kobe Lakers plenty of credit.

diamenz
04-08-2014, 10:56 AM
let's put it this way - they are and will be the most disrespected franchise ever... and imo, with good reason.

JellyBean
04-08-2014, 11:17 AM
If the Heat 3peat, I would rank them ahead of the Spurs. To me it is:

Boston Celtics and their 8 in a row.
Los Angeles Lakers (Magic and Kareem era)
Chicago Bulls
Los Angele Lakers (Shaq and Kobe era)
Miami Heat
San Antonio Spurs

aj1987
04-08-2014, 11:26 AM
If the Heat 3peat, I would rank them ahead of the Spurs. To me it is:

Boston Celtics and their 8 in a row.
Los Angeles Lakers (Magic and Kareem era)
Chicago Bulls
Los Angele Lakers (Shaq and Kobe era)
Miami Heat
San Antonio Spurs
'80's Celtics? 4 straight Finals and 3 rings and 4 Finals in 7 years.

tmacattack33
04-08-2014, 12:59 PM
They'd be one of the best teams of all time obviously.

And it won't be just 3 rings in a row, it'd be 4 Finals trips in a row which is even more rare.