Who Would Pippen Shut Down More Easily? Bran or Durant

[AirTupac]

Pippen was excellent in so many facets of the game. Stripping people down low, taking charges, etc. Who would he shut down more easily? I think it would be LeBron simply because Durant has a much better shot.

Also, lets say there is a decent amount of contact allowed.


http://ballislife.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/scottievkd.jpg

[Trollsmasher]

Pippen was excellent in so many facets of the game. Stripping people down low, taking charges, etc. Who would he shut down more easily? I think it would be LeBron simply because Durant has a much better shot.

Also, lets say there is a decent amount of contact allowed.
Durant

[JohnFreeman]

Durant

[Angel Face]

Boris Diaw shook Bran in the Finals. Scottie would shut him down and make him shat his pants.

[Im Still Ballin]

Boris Diaw shook Bran in the Finals. Scottie would shut him down and make him shat his pants.

get scotties log out of your mouth

[TMT]

The one that you can sag off of and expect not to hurt you consistently.

[deja vu]

Durant.

LeBron is a tougher cover because of his strength and athleticism. Durant can just shoot over Pippen but Pip has crazy length and athleticism too. Pip can stay in front of Durant and won't get fooled easily by Durant's crossovers and ripthroughs.

Pippen was stronger than he looks and can guard LeBron better than anyone because of his defensive versatility. But I feel that LeBron is a tougher assignment for him thsn Durant.

[plowking]

The one that you can sag off of and expect not to hurt you consistently.

I dunno... I can post this picture and it still hurts you to this day.

http://www.tampabay.com/resources/images/dti/rendered/2013/06/c2s_lebron062113_10986723_8col.jpg

:oldlol:

[TMT]

Did that comment really offend you that much? Damn.

Yes, Lebron won that trophy because his jumper showed up in Game 7. He actually shows up the most whenever his back is against the wall which is a phenomenal trait for a superstar. But what I said stands pat, his jumper isn't all that consistent.

With Durant you have to be completely up in his air space and he'll still rise up anywhere on the court and drain the shot. But you can give Lebron room and he's still not guaranteed to make it most of the time. It's just the truth, my man.

[navy]

The gif is better.

http://fattmemrite.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/ibnyzlprwr2nlf.gif


The reality is Pippen wouldnt shut down either of them. But Durant is better offensively, so I'll say Lebron.

[plowking]

Did that comment really offend you that much? Damn.

Yes, Lebron won that trophy because his jumper showed up in Game 7. He actually shows up the most whenever his back is against the wall which is a phenomenal trait for a superstar. But what I said stands pat, his jumper isn't all that consistent.

With Durant you have to be completely up in his air space and he'll still rise up anywhere on the court and drain the shot. But you can give Lebron room and he's still not guaranteed to make it most of the time. It's just the truth, my man.

Players go through bad shooting stretches. Ray Allen did with the Celtics in the finals. It happens. Bron is an average shooter from the midrange at worst. On his good days, he's fantastic from there.

[TMT]

Players go through bad shooting stretches. Ray Allen did with the Celtics in the finals. It happens. Bron is an average shooter from the midrange at worst. On his good days, he's fantastic from there.

On his bad days he's bad, on his good days he's good. You just defined an inconsistent shooter. :confusedshrug: With the right game plan Lebron is certainly less effective from midrange and out, which is why I say he would be the easier cover for Pippen if you can stay back and avoid giving him lanes in the paint. You're just talking about Lebron instead of addressing the topic at hand. :lol

[plowking]

On his bad days he's bad, on his good days he's good. You just defined an inconsistent shooter. :confusedshrug: With the right game plan Lebron is certainly less effective from midrange and out, which is why I say he would be the easier cover for Pippen if you can stay back and avoid giving him lanes in the paint. You're just talking about Lebron instead of addressing the topic at hand. :lol

It's clear you come into any thread like this to vent. I guess that's what happens when you boast during the finals and end up looking stupid when your team loses.

What I described is any shooter, and any basketball player, ever. You don't shoot 41% from 3 over a season because you're inconsistent and a poor shooter. You don't shoot 44% from the midrange that very season because you're a poor and inconsistent shooter. Bron's not having outlier games every next game. He's one of the most consistent players ever, and he is a consistent shooter. 4 or 5 games against the Spurs doesn't change that.

And I'm talking about the topic at hand. I just explained to you how you're wrong, and how the answer you gave is wrong.

[JohnFreeman]

It's clear you come into any thread like this to vent. I guess that's what happens when you boast during the finals and end up looking stupid when your team loses.

What I described is any shooter, and any basketball player, ever. You don't shoot 41% from 3 over a season because you're inconsistent and a poor shooter. You don't shoot 44% from the midrange that very season because you're a poor and inconsistent shooter. Bron's not having outlier games every next game. He's one of the most consistent players ever, and he is a consistent shooter. 4 or 5 games against the Spurs doesn't change that.

And I'm talking about the topic at hand. I just explained to you how you're wrong, and how the answer you gave is wrong.
Very nice :applause:
You up late as well plow?

[TMT]

It's clear you come into any thread like this to vent. I guess that's what happens when you boast during the finals and end up looking stupid when your team loses.

What I described is any shooter, and any basketball player, ever. You don't shoot 41% from 3 over a season because you're inconsistent and a poor shooter. You don't shoot 44% from the midrange that very season because you're a poor and inconsistent shooter. Bron's not having outlier games every next game. He's one of the most consistent players ever, and he is a consistent shooter. 4 or 5 games against the Spurs doesn't change that.

And I'm talking about the topic at hand. I just explained to you how you're wrong, and how the answer you gave is wrong.

You're the one bringing up events from a year ago now. I'm just saying that the few teams who have played Lebron the best way possible, '11 Mavericks and '13 Spurs, shit even the '07 Spurs with that same philosophy if you want to go back that far, proved that certain game planning came render him nearly ineffective for the most part beyond the paint.

You're talking about stats accumulated over an entire NBA season, which Lebron plays predominantly against the weaker conference and mostly against teams who are out of the playoffs or only playoff worthy because of how weak the East is. But when I bring out sample sizes including top defenses, my opinions are invalid? :oldlol:

Clearly your bias prevents you from admitting the slightest negative thing about Lebron, so I'll just leave it at that.

BTW, Lebron isn't shooting 41% beyond the arc this year. Check your sources.

[pegasus]

Lebron. Durant would struggle against Pippen too, but I can see him still get 25-30 every game, whereas Lebron may go full-mental midget mode and average 16-18 ppg (assuming it's a series).

[AirTupac]

In one on one LeBron Roflstomps Pippen. Entirely too huge and impossible for Pippen to keep him out of the lane.


The Bulls as a team would probably slow LeBron though.

Pippn was outstanding in taking charges and was strong enough to defend any position.

[NumberSix]

Is defense allowed?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Pippn was outstanding in taking charges and was strong enough to defend any position.
Pippen has been quoted saying he doesn't know how he could cover LeBron

[ripthekik]

If Boris Diaw could shut down Lebron..:confusedshrug:

[pegasus]

Pippen has been quoted saying he doesn't know how he could cover LeBron

Diaw showed him how.

[Dresta]

SA play fantastic team defense.

Bunch of morons with these Diaw comments.

[NumberSix]

Diaw showed him how.
25/11/7 + FMVP....


"shut down"

[plowking]

SA play fantastic team defense.

Bunch of morons with these Diaw comments.

Pretty much.

Entire team in the paint waiting for Lebron. Every single player was hedging in the paint. :oldlol:

[iznogood]

I'd probably choose LeBron. Pippen was great denying and defending the post and it's hard to stop somebody like Durant when he's making shots coming off screens. It's only a speculation though.

[red1]

If Boris Diaw could shut down Lebron..:confusedshrug:
Why'd you stop making the ring-less jokes rip? :lol Boris diaw jokes just dont carry as much weight. Oh I know why

[red1]

let the salt course through your veins :lol

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[Solefade]

let the salt course through your veins :lol

http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/784782318.jpg


yo how mad is rip/russwest/pegasus gonna be when lebron threepeats? potential suicide maybe?

rip gonna highjack one of those planes in the phillipines and fly it into the indian ocean :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

Durant. Lebron is just too much of a big boy with all that athleticism (though that would come in handy more posting up which Lebron doesn't do much), but with the way the rules are it's going to be harder to stop lebron just bulling his way to the basket. Under the old rules where you could hand check than he could stick with him. Durant though usually likes to shoot jump shots more than anything and Durant has never played against a defensive player as good as Pippen and WITH THAT LENGTH SCOTTIE HAS. It's almost impossible to bother Durants shot because he's so long, but if anyone could give him trouble it's Pippen and his ridiculously long arms.

[red1]

yo how mad is rip/russwest/pegasus gonna be when lebron threepeats? potential suicide maybe?

rip gonna highjack one of those planes in the phillipines and fly it into the indian ocean :oldlol:
I dont think russ will mind but rip and pegasus will legitimately be at risk for suicide

[JT123]

If Pippen were allowed to guard KD under 90's rules I don't see Durant scoring a single point on Pip. Dead serious. Durant would walk off the court crying "Momma, he wouldn't let me score!" :cry: :lol

[TheReal Kendall]

Pippen would shut down Bron cause he has a slow first step and a weak jumper. His post game isn't great either.

People always underrated Pippen's strength due to his size.

The only thing Durant has is his length and ability to shoot any where on the court.

So Pippen would have an easier time with Lebron

[Solefade]

Pippen would shut down Bron cause he has a slow first step and a weak jumper. His post game isn't great either.

People always underrated Pippen's strength due to his size.

The only thing Durant has is his length and ability to shoot any where on the court.

So Pippen would have an easier time with Lebron


lets be real, pippen would be intimidated as **** going 1v1 against lebron...that's why he always sucks his diq

[TheReal Kendall]

lets be real, pippen would be intimidated as **** going 1v1 against lebron...that's why he always sucks his diq

Why would he be though?

Pip has faced bigger defenders before.

[Solefade]

Why would he be though?

Pip has faced bigger defenders before.


because he's the greatest athlete he's ever seen with that size/speed/strength and combination of skills? they're about the same height but bron has 50+ lbs on pippen and that's a lot


think about that for a second and apply it to yourself...you're about 160-170ish going against a guy that's about 210-230 and you wouldn't be intimidated especially when he runs faster than you?

[Dragonyeuw]

Pippen has been quoted saying he doesn't know how he could cover LeBron

I believe that quote ended with 'under today's rules'. Under 90's defensive rules he'd have a better shot by making Lebron a jumpshooter and hoping he's not on. I do think that Pip has the lateral quickness to make it difficult for Lebron to consistently blow by him, since he doesn't have that great of a first step.

[The-Legend-24]

Boris Diaw shook Bran in the Finals. Scottie would shut him down and make him shat his pants.
This.

Nikka was having all kinds of problems with him. Pippen would scare the shit out this dude so bad, he would join Pippen's team after halftime. :oldlol:

[russwest0]

Doesn't LeBron struggle vs JIMMY BUTLER while Durant doesn't seem to have any troubles?

Easy choice here.

[Prometheus]

If this were taking place in today's game, Pippen would have a better time against LeBron. He would foul out against Durant.

If this were in the 90s, he would have a much easier time against Durant... but then again, everyone would. Durant + hand checking = :oldlol:

[Smoke117]

If this were taking place in today's game, Pippen would have a better time against LeBron. He would foul out against Durant.

If this were in the 90s, he would have a much easier time against Durant... but then again, everyone would. Durant + hand checking = :oldlol:

The thing about that is that it goes both lays. Leeway isn't just given to star/super star scorers, but given to players on the defensive end. You get away with a lot more when you are considered elite on either side of the floor. Bruce Bowen got away with anything and that was before the rule change. Frankly Scottie would better put off of Durant and Lebron and be put on Bosh or one of the Thunder's Shooting guards...which ever is playing. Scottie created so much more Havoc when he was able to play off his man to double. If anything the rules make it even easier for him to just play a "free safety" like role. He would play his man extremely loosely so he could double immediately. That or they'd put him on Westbrook to try and disrupt their offensive flow by making Westbrook work. Scottie's huge long body always made it hell for the PG's he guarded to get the offense going because he pressured the ball so much and made it hard to throw it over him with those long arms.