More babied: Oklahoma City Thunder or James Harden?

[russwest0]

Who you got?

Last meeting between the two:

Thunder: 85 shots, 20 FTA's
Harden: 22 shots, 20 FTA's

[J Shuttlesworth]

Durant shot 12/20 of the Thunder's free throws. 60%

Harden shot 20/37. 57%.


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[J Shuttlesworth]

Also, weren't you bitching at me for using a 1 game sample size in the other thread?

Durant FTA 2013-14: 10.0
Harden: 9

Career:
Durant FTA: 8.4
Harden: 6.4

[J Shuttlesworth]

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150 more FTA and russwest still bitches :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

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KD: 73 games
Harden: 66 games

The difference really isn't that big. a little over a FT a game. Harden also chucks more 3s & overall attempts less shots. KD attempts 4 more shots while also taking 1 more FT in the same amount of minutes, basically.

[J Shuttlesworth]

KD: 73 games
Harden: 66 games
7 game difference should make a disparity of maybe 50 FTA for any other star. For Durant, it's a disparity of 150 FTA

[ImKobe]

7 game difference should make a disparity of maybe 50 FTA for any other star. For Durant, it's a disparity of 150 FTA

It's also that James Harden doesn't shoot nearly as much as KD does. Harden attempts less than 17 shots a game while KD nearly attempts 21 a game. Harden also shoots more 3s a game, almost half of his FGAs are 3s.

KD's usage rate is 6% higher, he gets the ball more, he has a bigger role as a scorer, mostly because Russ has been out for most of the season & hasn't been 100%, so he's had to score more to make up for it, hence the extra FTA.

[JT123]

150 more FTA and russwest still bitches :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Ethered. :lol
At least Harden attacks the basket. Durant gets free throws while launching 3 pointers all night. :facepalm

[Solefade]

It's also that James Harden doesn't shoot nearly as much as KD does. Harden attempts less than 17 shots a game while KD nearly attempts 21 a game. Harden also shoots more 3s a game, almost half of his FGAs are 3s.

KD's usage rate is 6% higher, he gets the ball more, he has a bigger role as a scorer, mostly because Russ has been out for most of the season & hasn't been 100%, so he's had to score more to make up for it, hence the extra FTA.


shut up dude, your kobe and KD bias is disgusting

[ImKobe]

shut up dude, your kobe and KD bias is disgusting

KD bias? I hate the damn guy. I can't stand him because of 2012, when Lakers had their last chance at a deep Playoff run with a healthy roster. He just had to ruin it with his stupid pull up 3 at the end of Game 4 :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V19Z9bwtGTk

[JT123]

KD bias? I hate the damn guy. I can't stand him because of 2012, when Lakers had their last chance at a deep Playoff run with a healthy roster. He just had to ruin it with his stupid pull up 3 at the end of Game 4 :cry:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V19Z9bwtGTk
Actually Kobe lost that series for you guys more than KD won it. Careless turnovers at the end of game 2, and shooting 2-10 in the 4th quarter of game 4 was all Durant needed. :lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

It's also that James Harden doesn't shoot nearly as much as KD does. Harden attempts less than 17 shots a game while KD nearly attempts 21 a game. Harden also shoots more 3s a game, almost half of his FGAs are 3s.

KD's usage rate is 6% higher, he gets the ball more, he has a bigger role as a scorer, mostly because Russ has been out for most of the season & hasn't been 100%, so he's had to score more to make up for it, hence the extra FTA.
Harden actually takes it to the basket though, so it makes sense for him to have 7-8 FTA a game. He definitely gets babied, I'm not denying that. I don't even think there's really a big disparity at all. They are both over protected by the refs. I just find it odd that OKC fans are trying to hate on Harden when he gets the same, if not worse, treatment than Durant. It would be like LeBron fans making fun of CP3 for flopping.

[ImKobe]

Actually Kobe lost that series for you guys more than KD won it. Careless turnovers at the end of game 2, and shooting 2-10 in the 4th quarter of game 4 was all Durant needed. :lol

Game 2 the turnover was pretty bad, but Steve Blake had a wide open corner 3 & bricked it

Game 4 Kobe missed a lot of shots, but overall it was our team not communicating enough to make the right play. Brown's offense was garbage anyways, it consisted of Kobe ISOs, that's all it basically was. I guess Kobe ran out of gas at the end of those games. Also didn't help that our starting PG, Ramon Sessions, played like total ass every game of the series & Pau stopped giving a fk. In Game 4, Kobe tried passing the ball to Pau in the post & he ****ing fumbled the pass, which led to a turnover, which led to the KD three to win the game. Kobe averaged 39 7 4 on 45% shooting & only 2 TO's in the last 3 games of the series, so it's not like he didn't play well enough for us to win those games.

Kobe had a good series overall, it shouldn't have come down to the 4th quarter in Game 2 or Game 4.

To think of it, we were only 2 plays away from being up 3-1 in that series. OKC just got very lucky in some moments. One was Steve Blake missing a wide open shot to win the game, two was Pau fumbling the pass & giving OKC the chance to score at the end of the 4th quarter with the game tied.

[KyleKong]

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[J Shuttlesworth]

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:wtf: Did that even count as a real attempt?

[Trollsmasher]

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[red1]

Durant and harden are babied to equal degrees. The difference is that harden plays for the whistle and knows that he is a piece of shit while kd is oblivious to the touch fouls and ref favoritism he receives

[dazzer87]

Durant shot 12/20 of the Thunder's free throws. 60%

Harden shot 20/37. 57%.


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This

[SCdac]

Durant and harden are babied to equal degrees. The difference is that harden plays for the whistle and knows that he is a piece of shit while kd is oblivious to the touch fouls and ref favoritism he receives

I essentially agree with this. Both babied about the same, but get the feeling Harden plays for the foul (consciously takes advantage of quick whistles), while Durant seems like a tougher cover for the average defender and somewhat oblivious to his Jordan treatment.

[Random_Guy]

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not a lebron fan but seriously how is he so low on that list?
and Demar Derozan:applause:

[brantonli]

Who you got?

Last meeting between the two:

Thunder: 85 shots, 20 FTA's
Harden: 22 shots, 20 FTA's


Harden shot 5 FTs off intentional fouls and a tech free throw, so you might as well take 5 off and say Harden had 15 FTA

[red1]

not a lebron fan but seriously how is he so low on that list?
and Demar Derozan:applause:
refs know he flops so they are going to hesitate to call fouls

[russwest0]

refs know he flops so they are going to hesitate to call fouls

someone who actually understands this concept...

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[russwest0]

It's also that James Harden doesn't shoot nearly as much as KD does. Harden attempts less than 17 shots a game while KD nearly attempts 21 a game. Harden also shoots more 3s a game, almost half of his FGAs are 3s.

KD's usage rate is 6% higher, he gets the ball more, he has a bigger role as a scorer, mostly because Russ has been out for most of the season & hasn't been 100%, so he's had to score more to make up for it, hence the extra FTA.

dat ether :eek: :eek: :eek:

[J Shuttlesworth]

dat ether :eek: :eek: :eek:

Russwest wants more free throws for durant. 10 a game isn't enough :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Jameerthefear]

OKC is babied as ****. It still makes me laugh my ass off how Durant tried two rip through moves straight and the refs didn't call them :roll:

[Random_Guy]

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his arms must be darn tired from shooting so many

[ABfor3]

Harden actually draws contact, he'll occasionally get the phantom calls but he gets hit hard lots of times. Durant just gets touched and he's headed to the line.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It really isn't even close. KD is so ref padded. How the **** do you get 4 3 point fouls in one game.
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[russwest0]

Are Rockets fans the 2nd worst fans in the league?

[Milbuck]

Harden and it's not even remotely close. If the refs cut down on calling bullshit fouls, he'd be just another Marshon Brooks.

[r0drig0lac]

the most favored team in the history of the nba, or the most favored player ever?
does not matter, both are the bane of basketball

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wow didn't think it was that bad.

[Smook A.]

Are Rockets fans the 2nd worst fans in the league?
No. Are you the worst poster on this forum?

[Smook A.]

Harden and it's not even remotely close. If the refs cut down on calling bullshit fouls, he'd be just another Marshon Brooks.
Harden without the ft attempts would avg 18 ppg. Don't think Marshon ever avg 18 ppg

[Smook A.]

Durant and harden are babied to equal degrees. The difference is that harden plays for the whistle and knows that he is a piece of shit while kd is oblivious to the touch fouls and ref favoritism he receives


I essentially agree with this. Both babied about the same, but get the feeling Harden plays for the foul (consciously takes advantage of quick whistles), while Durant seems like a tougher cover for the average defender and somewhat oblivious to his Jordan treatment.

If James Harden LIVED at ft line then he'd average 25 ft attempts instead of 8! He averages almost 26 ppg and shoots an average of 8-9 free throws a game. OBVIOUSLY he doesnt live at the line

[Milbuck]

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Most dangerous offensive arsenal of all time. GOAT scorer.

[Smook A.]

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Most dangerous offensive arsenal of all time. GOAT scorer.
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[Smook A.]

Michael Jordan AKA The Greatest NBA Player of All Time once averaged 12 fta a games. KOBE averaged more than 10 fta for 3 straight years!

Oh but I thought free throws were a bad thing. Some of y'all act like KD and Harden are the only players in NBA history to average about 9-10 fta a game. Psh