Am I the only one who thinks this Lebron and Wade pairing will end in flames?

[HOoopCityJones]

Lebron has to be fed up with Wade's absences at this point, tonight makes the 27th or 28th game Wade has sat, Lebron is literally carrying this entire show right now to a Final, and it's not even the Playoffs yet. He has his fair share of ailments at the moment (back) and they'll only grow as the years go. Do people really think Wade will just suddenly turn it on again? He's been getting destroyed by guys like Lance and Livingston all season.

Don't you think Lebron's fed up with Wade sitting on his ass while enjoying the benefits of his prime play? There's an abundance of players around the League who can provide a better second option than this guy, including a Melo or a Steph Curry and Bron knows it. Win or Lose he's gone.

[navy]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.

[JohnFreeman]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.
true

[HOoopCityJones]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.

You guys are stans and really haven't picked up on this guy's self centered personality yet huh? Lebron is about ME first.

And don't think he doesn't realize Wade will always have one more than him as long as they play together.

[JT123]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.
:facepalm Actually he can, since he's carried Wade to championships each of the last two years. Lebron has MORE than made up for 2011. Wade wouldn't have even been in the Finals without Lebron. :no:

[eliteballer]

Apparently LeBron is fed up. He's been saying "I'm active!" in pregame huddles.

[JT123]

Lebron has to be fed up with Wade's absences at this point, tonight makes the 27th or 28th game Wade has sat, Lebron is literally carrying this entire show right now to a Final, and it's not even the Playoffs yet. He has his fair share of ailments at the moment (back) and they'll only grow as the years go. Do people really think Wade will just suddenly turn it on again? He's been getting destroyed by guys like Lance and Livingston all season.

Don't you think Lebron's fed up with Wade sitting on his ass while enjoying the benefits of his prime play? There's an abundance of players around the League who can provide a better second option than this guy, including a Melo or a Steph Curry and Bron knows it. Win or Lose he's gone.
Lebron won't leave if they win. Nobody is gonna turn down the chance at a 4 peat. :lol

[HOoopCityJones]

:facepalm Actually he can, since he's carried Wade to championships each of the last two years. Lebron has MORE than made up for 2011. Wade wouldn't have even been in the Finals without Lebron. :no:

Real Talk.

As far as paybacks go, Lebron has already made up for 2011, concerning Wade.

[SCdac]

To be fair, it seems like many NBA duos or trios end in flames because they all have huge egos and all want to get paid in the end regardless of their current numbers and production.

[HOoopCityJones]

Lebron won't leave if they win. Nobody is gonna turn down the chance at a 4 peat. :lol

Bro, you're delusional if you think these cats are getting anywhere near a Final with the entire Team being a year older and Dwade in further decline.

This is some true homerism though, I gotta hand it to you.

Not even a Mid prime Shaq or entering prime Kobe could win a 4th straight, lol. The League just doesn't work like that.

[secund2nun]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.

They would have never reached the finals without Lebron or gotten anywhere close to it. Wade should be thanking Lebron for 2 rings. Lebron carried Miami to 2 rings, so you are wrong. Wade had nothing but first round losses in the years before Lebron arrived.

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.

[tpols]

If Wade was a threat to take a FMVP trophy this would be true.. but hes simply not.

[tpols]

They would have never reached the finals without Lebron or gotten anywhere close to it. Wade should be thanking Lebron for 2 rings. Lebron carried Miami to 2 rings, so you are wrong. Wade had nothing but first round losses in the years before Lebron arrived.

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.

Wade was much better in the 2012 and 2013 Finals than Lebron was in 2011. Last year he provided great second option help and stepped his game up dramatically from previous rounds.. and in 2012 Finals he averaged 23/6/5 but it was all overshadowed by Brons superior performance plus crazy 3 pt shooting

[JT123]

They would have never reached the finals without Lebron or gotten anywhere close to it. Wade should be thanking Lebron for 2 rings. Lebron carried Miami to 2 rings, so you are wrong. Wade had nothing but first round losses in the years before Lebron arrived.

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.
QFT. :applause:

[JT123]

Bro, you're delusional if you think these cats are getting anywhere near a Final with the entire Team being a year older and Dwade in further decline.

This is some true homerism though, I gotta hand it to you.

Not even a Mid prime Shaq or entering prime Kobe could win a 4th straight, lol. The League just doesn't work like that.
You misunderstand me. I don't think the Heat will even make the Finals this year. I'm just saying that if by some miracle they do win the chip this year Lebron will have no choice but to try and go for a 4th straight.

[Flash31]

They would have never reached the finals without Lebron or gotten anywhere close to it. Wade should be thanking Lebron for 2 rings. Lebron carried Miami to 2 rings, so you are wrong. Wade had nothing but first round losses in the years before Lebron arrived.

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.


LeBron stans are worse than Heat haters and youre a horrible One as well.

What did Wade do without LeBron compared to LeBron without Wade?
Oh only avg 36,5,5 in Finals and carrying the Heat down 2-0 to 4 straight wins and win Finals MVP---something LeBron Never did before Joining wade.

Oh if LeBron avg what Wade did theyd lose by 20,no not quite considering Wade Never Choked and laid an egg in the biggest stage,the FINALS and cost his team the championship---oh b b but Wade PO in 2013 not including Finals
yeah,Wade played with 3 Bone Bruises and in the Finals had an argument for Finals MVP before game 6.

B b but he takes games off,yeah no sht bc healthy in po and performing where it matters most is what counts.


How is 20,4,4 in Finals and shooting BETTER and having less t/o than LeBron
worse than 17,7,7 and being outplayed by Jason Terry an being the 3rd best player on team?

Yeah I forgot when LeBron won anything besides regular season awards without Wade---when did LeBron win without Wade again?

The Heat are a team and play better with all 3 than just being the LeBron and shooters--howd 2007 and 2009 go again?
LeBron stans are fn pathetic trashing LJ teammate and why LJ joined the Heat in the first place to prop up LeBron.


Wade should be thanking LeBron.Yeah apparently 2011 Finals the Heat should praise LeBron for his performance.Yeah Wade should thank LeBron for Wades Finals MVP and bringing the first ring to the Heat.
Wade should thank LeBron for Wade playing good--almost like Wade is an all star solely bc of LeBron like Mo Williams oh wait hes not hmm.

Lebron stans dam:facepalm :wtf:

[LongLiveTheKing]

They're best friends it'll never end bad.

[TheReal Kendall]

What's more important the playoffs or the regular season?

I'm sure their only focus is to 3peat and in order to do that Lebron will need a healthy Wade.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Apparently LeBron is fed up. He's been saying "I'm active!" in pregame huddles.
Seriously?

[red1]

my gut tells me that they will win it again this year

[TheNaturalWR]

:facepalm Actually he can, since he's carried Wade to championships each of the last two years. Lebron has MORE than made up for 2011. Wade wouldn't have even been in the Finals without Lebron. :no:

lol @ you thinking that makes up for a FINALS MVP that would of probably cemented Wade in the top 15 all time.

[JUDGE WITNESS]

im sure if d-wade didnt feel like his knees were 70 years old he would be out playing every single game

[JT123]

lol @ you thinking that makes up for a FINALS MVP that would of probably cemented Wade in the top 15 all time.
Lebron won a Finals MVP with Wade averaging 14 ppg over 3 rounds last year. Why couldn't Wade win a Finals MVP with Lebron only playing bad in one round? :confusedshrug:

[secund2nun]

Wade was much better in the 2012 and 2013 Finals than Lebron was in 2011. Last year he provided great second option help and stepped his game up dramatically from previous rounds.. and in 2012 Finals he averaged 23/6/5 but it was all overshadowed by Brons superior performance plus crazy 3 pt shooting


This is what Wade did in the 2012 and 2013 finals.

2013: 20-5-4 48%
2012: 23-6-5 43%

Solid, but if Lebron does that in the CF or Finals Miami would get crushed.

Also Miami won the 2013 ECF with Wade averaging 15-5-4 43.6% and Bosh even worse. If Lebron went 15-5-4 on 43.6% it would easily be a sweep.

Wade went 21-6-5 on 44% in the 2012 ECF as well.

[JT123]

What's more important the playoffs or the regular season?

I'm sure their only focus is to 3peat and in order to do that Lebron will need a healthy Wade.
Let's be real, Wade is NEVER going to be healthy. He injured his hammy by doing nothing more than running down the court. :facepalm Same thing will happen in the playoffs. Dude needs to suck it up and learn how to play through his pain.

[Patrick Chewing]

I find it hilarious how Lebron James, who's arguably the best player in the league right now, needs another superstar of Dwyane Wade's caliber to win ballgames. Lebron does not have that killer instinct and can never carry an entire team on his back.

[20Four]

I find it hilarious how Lebron James, who's arguably the best player in the league right now, needs another superstar of Dwyane Wade's caliber to win ballgames. Lebron does not have that killer instinct and can never carry an entire team on his back.
Agree with everything but bolded...

http://i.minus.com/ibsQOYOgxlscd.png

[secund2nun]

LeBron stans are worse than Heat haters and youre a horrible One as well.

What did Wade do without LeBron compared to LeBron without Wade?
Oh only avg 36,5,5 in Finals and carrying the Heat down 2-0 to 4 straight wins and win Finals MVP---something LeBron Never did before Joining wade.

Oh if LeBron avg what Wade did theyd lose by 20,no not quite considering Wade Never Choked and laid an egg in the biggest stage,the FINALS and cost his team the championship---oh b b but Wade PO in 2013 not including Finals
yeah,Wade played with 3 Bone Bruises and in the Finals had an argument for Finals MVP before game 6.

B b but he takes games off,yeah no sht bc healthy in po and performing where it matters most is what counts.


How is 20,4,4 in Finals and shooting BETTER and having less t/o than LeBron
worse than 17,7,7 and being outplayed by Jason Terry an being the 3rd best player on team?

Yeah I forgot when LeBron won anything besides regular season awards without Wade---when did LeBron win without Wade again?

The Heat are a team and play better with all 3 than just being the LeBron and shooters--howd 2007 and 2009 go again?
LeBron stans are fn pathetic trashing LJ teammate and why LJ joined the Heat in the first place to prop up LeBron.


Wade should be thanking LeBron.Yeah apparently 2011 Finals the Heat should praise LeBron for his performance.Yeah Wade should thank LeBron for Wades Finals MVP and bringing the first ring to the Heat.
Wade should thank LeBron for Wade playing good--almost like Wade is an all star solely bc of LeBron like Mo Williams oh wait hes not hmm.

Lebron stans dam:facepalm :wtf:



I personally like Wade as a person and a player, but I'm just telling the truth.

Wade had Shaq in 2006. What happened after Shaq left? Prime Wade could not even win a playoff series nor finish better than a low seed in the East until Lebron joined in 2010. He even lost to the Hawks in the first round once. That's just the truth. And no Lebron was not out played by Jason Terry. Terry could only dream of 17-7-7 on 46%. Lebron underperformed, but was still 1000 times better than Terry.

If Lebron went 23-6-5 on 43%, 20-5-4 48%, or 21-6-5 44%, or 15-5-4 43% he would be torn to shreds especially if Wade took up most of the coverage like Lebron does for Miami.

Talk about 2011 all you want. Wade was losing in the first round every year since Shaq left up until Lebron joined Miami. They would have never even sniffed the finals in 2011 without Lebron.

Btw what did Wade do in the 2011 ECF vs Chicago? 19-6-2 40% fg and 4 turnovers per game

[JT123]

I find it hilarious how Lebron James, who's arguably the best player in the league right now, needs another superstar of Dwyane Wade's caliber to win ballgames. Lebron does not have that killer instinct and can never carry an entire team on his back.
Someone clearly didn't watch the playoffs last year. :oldlol:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

They would have never reached the finals without Lebron or gotten anywhere close to it. Wade should be thanking Lebron for 2 rings. Lebron carried Miami to 2 rings, so you are wrong. Wade had nothing but first round losses in the years before Lebron arrived.

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.
this.
he let wade take over because he was hot after carrying him to the finals and wade couldnt deliver. then he carried Wades shell for two straight years and this season hes doing it again. he should go back to cleveland or join golden state

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I personally like Wade as a person and a player, but I'm just telling the truth.

Wade had Shaq in 2006. What happened after Shaq left? Prime Wade could not even win a playoff series nor finish better than a low seed in the East until Lebron joined in 2010. He even lost to the Hawks in the first round once. That's just the truth. And no Lebron was not out played by Jason Terry. Terry could only dream of 17-7-7 on 46%. Lebron underperformed, but was still 1000 times better than Terry.

If Lebron went 23-6-5 on 43%, 20-5-4 48%, or 21-6-5 44%, or 15-5-4 43% he would be torn to shreds especially if Wade took up most of the coverage like Lebron does for Miami.

Talk about 2011 all you want. Wade was losing in the first round every year since Shaq left up until Lebron joined Miami. They would have never even sniffed the finals in 2011 without Lebron.

Btw what did Wade do in the 2011 ECF vs Chicago? 19-6-2 40% fg and 4 turnovers per game
dont argue with him. hes beyond retarded

[JT123]

I personally like Wade as a person and a player, but I'm just telling the truth.

Wade had Shaq in 2006. What happened after Shaq left? Prime Wade could not even win a playoff series nor finish better than a low seed in the East until Lebron joined in 2010. He even lost to the Hawks in the first round once. That's just the truth. And no Lebron was not out played by Jason Terry. Terry could only dream of 17-7-7 on 46%. Lebron underperformed, but was still 1000 times better than Terry.

If Lebron went 23-6-5 on 43%, 20-5-4 48%, or 21-6-5 44%, or 15-5-4 43% he would be torn to shreds especially if Wade took up most of the coverage like Lebron does for Miami.

Talk about 2011 all you want. Wade was losing in the first round every year since Shaq left up until Lebron joined Miami. They would have never even sniffed the finals in 2011 without Lebron.

Btw what did Wade do in the 2011 ECF vs Chicago? 19-6-2 40% fg and 4 turnovers per game
:applause:

[SamuraiSWISH]

he should go back to cleveland or join golden state
He has already set the standard years ago for hopping teams, without loyalty in order to get what LeBron wants the easiest humanly way possible. Wearing 3x different uniforms during your prime is embarrassing from a character perspective.

[livinglegend]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.

Wade got carried to the finals that year. He sucked in ECF.

[JT123]

He has already set the standard years ago for hopping teams, without loyalty in order to get what LeBron wants the easiest humanly way possible. Wearing 3x different uniforms during your prime is embarrassing from a character perspective.
No, it's called being your own man and not trying to copy the legacies of those who came before you. :pimp:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

He has already set the standard years ago for hopping teams, without loyalty in order to get what LeBron wants the easiest humanly way possible. Wearing 3x different uniforms during your prime is embarrassing from a character perspective.
you only say that because you dont want him to keep winning. it was easy for jordan to stay on the bulls since they gave him some of the stacked teams for ALL his title runs.
LeBron won two titles in a row by leading the Heat in every category while carrying hot trash.
he needs to put up 35-10-8 or something on 55% for them to win this year and even then its not a given

[red1]

you only say that because you dont want him to keep winning. it was easy for jordan to stay on the bulls since they gave him some of the stacked teams for ALL his title runs.
LeBron won two titles in a row by leading the Heat in every category while carrying hot trash.
he needs to put up 35-10-8 or something on 55% for them to win this year and even then its not a given
when has he ever put that up in the finals? you "heat fans" need to man up. acting like some whiny little bitches after every loss

[SamuraiSWISH]

you only say that because you dont want him to keep winning.
No I say that because it's the truth. You know it too, that's why you're defensive.

[eliteballer]

Seriously?


Is LeBron tiring of life without Wade?

"I"m active,'' he said twice in a three-minute pre-game talk Monday night.

All the talk leading into Monday night's game was how the Heat were self-critical of their recent play. That was a good thing, as I wrote in my column today. It showed their passion, how they were again engaged in a regular season they've sleep-walked through at times.
Top 25 players in Miami Heat history

But this issue with Wade's health is another matter. It's wearing on this team during this long regular season. It's wearing on LeBron, most of all. He left Cleveland to lessen his burden. He hoisted 12 shots in Monday's first quarter, the most in any quarter this season. He obviously feels the burden to play more without Wade.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/sfl-hyde5-is-lebron-tiring-of-life-without-wade-20140325,0,5043360.story?track=rss

[Marlo_Stanfield]

when has he ever put that up in the finals? you "heat fans" need to man up. acting like some whiny little bitches after every loss
i mean the entire playoffs. thats how disgusting his team is.
he didnt do it before because he wasnt good enough or didnt have too.
he put up 39-8-8 once tho in the ECF dont you remember??

[JT123]

No I say that because it's the truth. You know it too, that's why you're defensive.
This loser trying to act like Lebron is the only star in NBA history to leave the team that drafted him. :oldlol: Jordan stans and their insecurity. :facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

No I say that because it's the truth. You know it too, that's why you're defensive.
yeah sure. carried and absolute worthless franchise for 7 years and then was promised a good team which he had to carry ever since too. now this team isnt even good anymore, they are old and done and have GLARING weaknesses. THEY PLAY WITHOUT A CENTER

[SamuraiSWISH]

This loser trying to act like Lebron is the only star in NBA history to leave the team that drafted him. :oldlol:
Nah as usual it was the circumstances that defined the cowardly tin man he is ... as would be ring basing YET AGAIN when the moment suits him right. The guy has no backbone, no resiliency. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. It would be embarrassing to chase to another team yet again.

[secund2nun]

this.
he let wade take over because he was hot after carrying him to the finals and wade couldnt deliver. then he carried Wades shell for two straight years and this season hes doing it again. he should go back to cleveland or join golden state

Golden state would be intriguing, but I don't think he'd go there because of the non huge market.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Nah as usual it was the circumstances that defined the cowardly tin man he is ... as would be ring basing YET AGAIN when the moment suits him right. The guy has no backbone, no resiliency. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. It would be embarrassing to chase to another team yet again.
do you actually believe this shit you spew on a constant basis??:eek: :wtf: :biggums:

[red1]

Nah as usual it was the circumstances that defined the cowardly tin man he is ... as would be ring basing YET AGAIN when the moment suits him right. The guy has no backbone, no resiliency. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. It would be embarrassing to chase to another team yet again.
why are all bulls so butthurt? even you bro

[secund2nun]

He has already set the standard years ago for hopping teams, without loyalty in order to get what LeBron wants the easiest humanly way possible. Wearing 3x different uniforms during your prime is embarrassing from a character perspective.

Jordan was on a team that won 55 games and was one bad call from making the ECF AFTER they replaced Jordan with a D-league player. Playing for an all time great coach like Phil is a lot different than playing for a scrub coach like Spo. If Miami replaced Lebron with a D-league player they wouldn't get anywhere near 50 wins and they'd lose in the first round as a lower seed .

[SamuraiSWISH]

why are all bulls so butthurt? even you bro
Wait, what kid? How am I butthurt? I'm speaking to the reality of the situation.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Jordan was on a team that won 55 games and was one bad call from making the ECF AFTER they replaced Jordan with a D-league player. Playing for an all time great coach like Phil is a lot different than playing for a scrub coach like Spo. If Miami replaced Lebron with a D-league player they wouldn't get anywhere near 50 wins and they'd lose in the first round as a lower seed .
:biggums:

The fukk does Jordan have to do with any of this?

[red1]

Wait, what kid? How am I butthurt? I'm speaking to the reality of the situation.
Not even. Your post lacks perspective. Why would a jordan fan talk about loyalty when he had a championship team fall right into his lap.

[secund2nun]

when has he ever put that up in the finals? you "heat fans" need to man up. acting like some whiny little bitches after every loss

Lebron has had to carry Miami for large parts of the last 2 playoffs.

Lebron averages:

2013 NBA finals..................25/11/7 45% fg (7 games)
2013 ECF...........................29/7.5/5.5 51% fg (7 games)

2012 NBA finals................29/10/8 47% fg (6 games)
2012 ECF.........................34/11/4 53% fg (7 games)
2012 2nd round...............30/11/6 50% fg (6 games)

It hasn't been easy and Wade/Bosh have been very inconsistent.

[Smoke117]

I'd love to know how three finals appearances ending up in championships would make Lebron 'fed up'. It would be three championships if Lebron actually showed up in 2011, so I really fail to see how Lebron can get "fed up" with Wade when Lebron was the one who let him down two years ago. Lebron doesn't have shit to say to Wade when he gave a championship away and Frankly while Wade wasn't consistent he came up big vs the Pacers in 2012 and had good finals in each of their two championships. He was putting up numbers as the perfect 2nd option while ailing with his knee. He brought it in the three finals they've had...and you cant' say that for Lebron.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Not even. Your post lacks perspective. Why would a jordan fan talk about loyalty when he had a championship team fall right into his lap.
Fall into his lap? You mean he stuck it out even through the failures and they all grew together in order to reach the level they achieved? MJ stuck it out even when they were on the cusp and still losing. His leadership, and tutelage of Pippen was the major factor in bringing the Bulls to dynasty level.

Building rapport, chemistry, mental toughness, talent.

World of difference between team hopping in your PRIME, stacking the deck "it's gonna be easy" ... stop being a LeBron ball licking apologist. The guy obviously has cowardly, easiest way possible tendencies.

LeBron was on the cusp in Cleveland. 2x multiple 60+ win teams, that isn't chopped liver. Who knows how they might have achieved had Bron not quit on them mid series in the 2010 playoffs.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

I'd love to know how three finals appearances ending up in championships would make Lebron 'fed up'. It would be three championships if Lebron actually showed up in 2011, so I really fail to see how Lebron can get "fed up" with Wade when Lebron was the one who let him down two years ago. Lebron doesn't have shit to say to Wade when he gave a championship away and Frankly while Wade wasn't consistent he came up big vs the Pacers in 2012 and had good finals in each of their two championships. He was putting up numbers as the perfect 2nd option while ailing with his knee. He brought it in the three finals they've had...and you cant' say that for Lebron.
shut the fck up

[secund2nun]

:biggums:

The fukk does Jordan have to do with any of this?

We all know that's why you are in this thread. You like MJ and hate Lebron, so because Lebron has a different path than MJ you criticize him. Not all stars have the same path. Anyone would have left Cleveland. They are poorly run. Not every star is lucky enough to be drafted by a franchise that is correctly run with one of the GOATs as coach and a properly built/managed roster like Jordan and Duncan were.

Also Shaq played for 3 teams in his prime or near prime. Moses Malone played for 3 teams in his prime. Wilt also played for 3 teams in his prime. No one even remembers it anymore.

[red1]

Fall into his lap? You mean he stuck it out even through the failures and they all grew together in order to reach the level they achieved? MJ stuck it out even when they were on the cusp and still losing.

World of difference between team hopping, stacking the deck "it's gonna be easy" ... stop being a LeBron ball licking apologist. The guy obviously has cowardly, easiest way possible tendencies.

LeBron was on the cusp in Cleveland. 2x multiple 60+ win teams, that isn't chopped liver. Who knows how they might have achieved had Bron not quit on them mid series in the 2010 playoffs.
Cmon bro. All this talk of loyalty is nonsense. Its just another way of boosting jordan in your mind.

[JT123]

Fall into his lap? You mean he stuck it out even through the failures and they all grew together in order to reach the level they achieved? MJ stuck it out even when they were on the cusp and still losing. His leadership, and tutelage of Pippen was the major factor in bringing the Bulls to dynasty level.

Building rapport, chemistry, mental toughness, talent.

World of difference between team hopping in your PRIME, stacking the deck "it's gonna be easy" ... stop being a LeBron ball licking apologist. The guy obviously has cowardly, easiest way possible tendencies.

LeBron was on the cusp in Cleveland. 2x multiple 60+ win teams, that isn't chopped liver. Who knows how they might have achieved had Bron not quit on them mid series in the 2010 playoffs.
:facepalm Jordan stans are pathetic.

[secund2nun]

Fall into his lap? You mean he stuck it out even through the failures and they all grew together in order to reach the level they achieved? MJ stuck it out even when they were on the cusp and still losing. His leadership, and tutelage of Pippen was the major factor in bringing the Bulls to dynasty level.

Building rapport, chemistry, mental toughness, talent.

World of difference between team hopping in your PRIME, stacking the deck "it's gonna be easy" ... stop being a LeBron ball licking apologist. The guy obviously has cowardly, easiest way possible tendencies.

LeBron was on the cusp in Cleveland. 2x multiple 60+ win teams, that isn't chopped liver. Who knows how they might have achieved had Bron not quit on them mid series in the 2010 playoffs.

Mo Williams, Larry Hughes, and Mike Brown vs Pippen, Rodman/Grant, and Phil Jackson...close one. 55 wins after MJ first retired vs 18 wins after Lebron left.

Lebron quit vs Boston in 2010 yet somehow averaged like 27-9-8 in the series while being tripled, shutting down Pierce, and nearly going 30-20-10 in the final game of the series meanwhile none of his teammates did anything and KG, Rondo exploded on Cleveland.

[SamuraiSWISH]

We all know that's why you are in this thread. You like MJ and hate Lebron
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9775764&postcount=25

Right ...

More like I'm just being brutally honest. Stop the pity party. You know damn well it'd be embarrassing for him to wear 3x different jerseys in his prime, ring chasing to pad the ring column on the resume. Cowardly.

[JT123]

Mo Williams, Larry Hughes, and Mike Brown vs Pippen, Rodman/Grant, and Phil Jackson...close one. 55 wins after MJ first retired vs 18 wins after Lebron left.

Lebron quit vs Boston in 2010 yet somehow averaged like 27-9-8 in the series while being tripled, shutting down Pierce, and nearly going 30-20-10 in the final game of the series meanwhile none of his teammates did anything and KG, Rondo exploded on Cleveland.
Don't bother trying to argue with that idiot. He's too busy sucking Jordan's **** to even even absorb any of the facts you just laid out.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9775764&postcount=25

Right ...

More like I'm just being brutally honest. Stop the pity party. You know damn well it'd be embarrassing for him to wear 3x different jerseys in his prime, ring chasing to pad the ring column on the resume. Cowardly.
yeah better lose on super weak teams. that way he cant attack jordans legacy:roll: :roll:

[AnaheimLakers24]

bran is trash and has single handily ruined the nba.
KOBE FALL 2014

[secund2nun]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9775764&postcount=25

Right ...

More like I'm just being brutally honest. Stop the pity party. You know damn well it'd be embarrassing for him to wear 3x different jerseys in his prime, ring chasing to pad the ring column on the resume. Cowardly.

There is nothing embarrassing about it. Cleveland was awful. Wade is breaking down and Bosh is overpaid and the coach is an idiot...Miami has no young talent either.

You must think Shaq, Moses Malone, and Wilt are embarrassed.

[secund2nun]

Don't bother trying to argue with that idiot. He's too busy sucking Jordan's **** to even even absorb any of the facts you just laid out.

LOL

[miggyme1]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.


not true at all........in order for the heat to beat the mavs it would have took an herculean effort from LEBRON JAMES thus ultimately he would have won that fmvp if the heat were to win that series...sorry.

[miggyme1]

I personally like Wade as a person and a player, but I'm just telling the truth.

Wade had Shaq in 2006. What happened after Shaq left? Prime Wade could not even win a playoff series nor finish better than a low seed in the East until Lebron joined in 2010. He even lost to the Hawks in the first round once. That's just the truth. And no Lebron was not out played by Jason Terry. Terry could only dream of 17-7-7 on 46%. Lebron underperformed, but was still 1000 times better than Terry.

If Lebron went 23-6-5 on 43%, 20-5-4 48%, or 21-6-5 44%, or 15-5-4 43% he would be torn to shreds especially if Wade took up most of the coverage like Lebron does for Miami.

Talk about 2011 all you want. Wade was losing in the first round every year since Shaq left up until Lebron joined Miami. They would have never even sniffed the finals in 2011 without Lebron.

Btw what did Wade do in the 2011 ECF vs Chicago? 19-6-2 40% fg and 4 turnovers per game

u act like that hawks team was trash kid....hawks teams was loaded that year...joe johnson,horford,josh smith....wade had hmmmm lets see a rookie beasely? lmao....lebron couldnt make the finals after 07 until he teamed up with wade so imo they both needed each other....wouldnt u agree?

[JT123]

u act like that hawks team was trash kid....hawks teams was loaded that year...joe johnson,horford,josh smith....wade had hmmmm lets see a rookie beasely? lmao....lebron couldnt make the finals after 07 until he teamed up with wade so imo they both needed each other....wouldnt u agree?
Wade has clearly needed/relied on Lebron a lot more than Lebron has needed/relied on Wade. If you can't see that I don't know what to say.

[Dengness9]

not true at all........in order for the heat to beat the mavs it would have took an herculean effort from LEBRON JAMES thus ultimately he would have won that fmvp if the heat were to win that series...sorry.


"Herculean"?! More like just averaging more than 2 pts in the 4th or keeping his numbers close to his season averages. Jet Terry called his bitch ass out.

[Dengness9]

Final result: Dallas 95, Miami 93

Stat line: 20 points, 8 of 15, eight rebounds, four assists, four steals, one block, and five turnovers

The Miami Heat had this one wrapped up. They held an 88-73 lead with a little under eight minutes to play following a Dwyane Wade three-pointer. Wade had 36 points and was the obvious leader of this Heat team on the offensive and defensive end for this game. What transpired over the next eight minutes however was mind-boggling on the part of the Heat.

Rather than feeding Wade, feeding off of the momentum, and keeping their foot on the gas pedal, they elected to give the ball to LeBron James instead. As soon as they got that 15-point lead, it was gone as James could not hold the fort down for the final eight minutes of the game. James wasn't attacking and it allowed the Mavs to rest and regain their energy on the offensive and defensive end.

James' inability to keep the Mavericks on their heels gave Dallas hope and they used that to their advantage by stealing the game in the final seconds. The only points James scored following that 15 point lead were two free throws on one of the few occasions where he did drive. The other three points came from Mario Chalmers, who was wide open off of a James inbound pass.

We can't put this entirely on James because it was Wade's game to win. Whether it coach Erik Spoelstra's decision to defer to James or Wade's decision so that he can rest for Game 3, this was the game that lost the Miami Heat their series. They have Dallas hope and they gave them momentum for the rest of the series.

[secund2nun]

u act like that hawks team was trash kid....hawks teams was loaded that year...joe johnson,horford,josh smith....wade had hmmmm lets see a rookie beasely? lmao....lebron couldnt make the finals after 07 until he teamed up with wade so imo they both needed each other....wouldnt u agree?

That Hawk team was mediocre. After Shaq left prime Wade missed the playoffs in 07, lost as a 5th seed in the first round to ATL in 08, and lost as a 5th seed to Boston in the first round.

Lebron never lost in the first round and before his prime has taken his weak cast to the finals, ECF , and the 2nd round every other year. He also led them to 2 #1 seeds, a #2 seed, a #3 seed and a couple of #4 seeds.

[Dengness9]

Final result: Miami 88, Dallas 86

Stat line: 17 points, 6-of-14, nine assists, three rebounds, two steals, and four turnovers

For the first time this postseason, it was LeBron James playing the role of third wheel.

With Dwyane Wade leading the Heat with 29 points and Chris Bosh hitting the game winning bucket, as well as scoring 18 points, James took a back seat by only scoring 17 points on 14 shots.

Playing the part of LeBron James that night was Dwyane Wade who was actually seen yelling at LeBron following an unforced turnover. Dwyane and Chris were the ones being forced to pick up the slack for James as he suffered from the Mavericks zone defense. LeBron was too slow off of pick and rolls and was restricted from driving for most of the game. He only made one of his four three-point attempts.

Once again, James worst stat came from the foul line where he only had four free-throw attempts. In games that come down to the wire and the hope of possibly getting the Mavericks bigs in foul trouble, James wasn't delivering and he was forcing his teammates to do all that they could do to pull out a victory.

It only would have taken a few more free throw attempts from James that could currently have the Heat holding the trophy at this moment. Alas, he was taking just as many free throws as any other role player on either team.

[miggyme1]

That Hawk team was mediocre. After Shaq left prime Wade missed the playoffs in 07, lost as a 5th seed in the first round to ATL in 08, and lost as a 5th seed to Boston in the first round.

Lebron never lost in the first round and before his prime has taken his weak cast to the finals, ECF , and the 2nd round every other year. He also led them to 2 #1 seeds, a #2 seed, a #3 seed and a couple of #4 seeds.


i can tell u only 15 years old kid...first of all wade made the playoffs in 07...they lost to the bulls in the first round....he missed the playoffs in 08 due to injuries..heat finished the season like with one of the worst records..thus gettin mike beasely with the 2nd pick in the 08 draft...in the 09 playoffs they faced a VERY good hawks team and lost in i believe 6 or 7 games....2010 playoffs they went against a VERY good boston celtics team and lost in either 5 or 6....go do your research then get back at me

[HOoopCityJones]

People don't realize that this is really about what happens AFTER this season, win or lose Wade is not going to be able to contend for more deep championship runs.

So why wouldn't Lebron opt out? You think he's down for another season of carrying more on the back end of a prime than he bargained for? Wade's belly will be full, especially if they win another Championship.

Lebron still wants to catch the greats. MJ, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan etc.

Let's not forget the elephant in the room. YOU really think as the man who took less when they all came together, Wade is gonna wanna take another paycut? Especially after the contract Kobe got? NO other Team in the league would compensate him like that except the Heat.

Oh and if they 3peat? Forget about it...Plus Lebron has been watching alot of Baseball, and this man still hasn't tasted best player in the league money.

[Mr. Incredible]

Nah as usual it was the circumstances that defined the cowardly tin man he is ... as would be ring basing YET AGAIN when the moment suits him right. The guy has no backbone, no resiliency. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. It would be embarrassing to chase to another team yet again.
I have to agree with Swish. If LeBron leaves then I'll be terribly disappointed in him to ring chase with another team. Although, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Mr. Incredible]

People don't realize that this is really about what happens AFTER this season, win or lose Wade is not going to be able to contend for more deep championship runs.

So why wouldn't Lebron opt out? You think he's down for another season of carrying more on the back end of a prime than he bargained for? Wade's belly will be full, especially if they win another Championship.

Lebron still wants to catch the greats. MJ, Magic, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan etc.

Let's not forget the elephant in the room. YOU really think as the man who took less when they all came together, Wade is gonna wanna take another paycut? Especially after the contract Kobe got? NO other Team in the league would compensate him like that except the Heat.

Oh and if they 3peat? Forget about it...Plus Lebron has been watching alot of Baseball, and this man still hasn't tasted best player in the league money.
I agree with everything you said but at this point all LeBron thinks about is his legacy. I don't think he truly cares about getting the full max contract as long as he has a viable team that he thinks could compete for a championship.

It will be very interesting to see what cards Wade plays this summer.

My guess is they all opt in for one more run next year and the year after, who knows what will happen.

[JT123]

I have to agree with Swish. If LeBron leaves then I'll be terribly disappointed in him to ring chase with another team. Although, I wouldn't be surprised.
Wade stan detected. :facepalm The only one you should be disappointed in is Wade, who clearly isn't dedicated to doing his job anymore. He knows Lebron is wearing down by having to carry the team night after night, yet he continues to take his sweet time recovering from his so called injuries. :rolleyes:

[aj1987]

Wade stan detected. :facepalm The only one you should be disappointed in is Wade, who clearly isn't dedicated to doing his job anymore. He knows Lebron is wearing down by having to carry the team night after night, yet he continues to take his sweet time recovering from his so called injuries. :rolleyes:
Are you ****ing retarded? Sorry, stupid question.

[Mr. Incredible]

Wade stan detected. :facepalm The only one you should be disappointed in is Wade, who clearly isn't dedicated to doing his job anymore. He knows Lebron is wearing down by having to carry the team night after night, yet he continues to take his sweet time recovering from his so called injuries. :rolleyes:
Wrong. I pity ignorance.

[JT123]

Are you ****ing retarded? Sorry, stupid question.
You know as well as I do that Wade is not going to be healthy in the playoffs, no matter how much rest he is getting right now. He needs to man up and do his job. Lebron didn't leave Cleveland to carry the Heat all by himself while Wade takes 2 week vacations due to a bad hammy or migraine headaches. :facepalm Stop being such a stan and just admit that Wade isn't holding up his end of the deal.

[Mr. Incredible]

You know as well as I do that Wade is not going to be healthy in the playoffs, no matter how much rest he is getting right now. He needs to man up and do his job. Lebron didn't leave Cleveland to carry the Heat all by himself while Wade takes 2 week vacations due to a bad hammy or migraine headaches. :facepalm Stop being such a stan and just admit that Wade isn't holding up his end of the deal.
Wait, are you a member of the Heat's training staff? Tell more.

[JT123]

Wait, are you a member of the Heat's training staff? Tell more.
No, I've just been watching Wade's health continue to get worse and worse over the last 2 years. Dude can't even run down the court without messing up his hammy or twisting his knee. :facepalm If you honestly think he's going to go through this entire playoff run without tweaking an injury than you just aren't very intelligent.

[Smoke117]

Why have you even been posting in this thread Sam Swish? You are one of the biggest Jordan Stan's who has nothing good to say or belittle other players compared to Jordan. You aren't a real basketball fan, you are a fan of a player. Well your player has been gone for 10 years AND REALLY GONE SINCE 98, so shut your **** mouth about Jordan and the old days. Jordan has been done for over 10 years, move on, bitch.

[Mr. Incredible]

No, I've just been watching Wade's health continue to get worse and worse over the last 2 years. Dude can't even run down the court without messing up his hammy or twisting his knee. :facepalm If you honestly think he's going to go through this entire playoff run without tweaking an injury than you just aren't very intelligent.
Okay man. Whatever you say. So can I bump this when you're wrong, or will you disappear?

[aj1987]

You know as well as I do that Wade is not going to be healthy in the playoffs, no matter how much rest he is getting right now. He needs to man up and do his job. Lebron didn't leave Cleveland to carry the Heat all by himself while Wade takes 2 week vacations due to a bad hammy or migraine headaches. :facepalm Stop being such a stan and just admit that Wade isn't holding up his end of the deal.
He did in '11, '12, and the RS and Finals of '13. Bosh is still better than any player that LeBron had in Cleveland. Lets not act like LeBron doesn't have any help. A team does win 55 games without help.

Also, you should stop talking about injuries, unless you're a member of the Heat's coaching/medical staff. I don't mind Wade missing 30 games in the RS, if it means we can have a 20/5/5 Wade in the playoffs.

[JT123]

Okay man. Whatever you say. So can I bump this when you're wrong, or will you disappear?
I would love to be wrong, but I won't be. History is an indicator of what is to come for Wade. I just can't have blind faith in things, I have to look at the facts. The facts tell me that Wade at this age is incapable of staying healthy for more than 5 or 6 games. :confusedshrug:

[FLDFSU]

He has already set the standard years ago for hopping teams, without loyalty in order to get what LeBron wants the easiest humanly way possible. Wearing 3x different uniforms during your prime is embarrassing from a character perspective.

Anyone talking about player loyalty deserves to be banned from the internet.

This year alone we have saw: the Celtics trade Pierce and Garnett, Pacers trade Granger, and the Heat cut Miller.

Please stop with the player loyalty nonsense.

If Lebron James was 36 and played 20 years in Cleveland, Dan Gilbert would trade Lebron in a heartbeat if it suited him.

Just stop.

[Mr. Incredible]

I would love to be wrong, but I won't be. History is an indicator of what is to come for Wade. I just can't have blind faith in things, I have to look at the facts. The facts tell me that Wade at this age is incapable of staying healthy for more than 5 or 6 games. :confusedshrug:
Okay man, whatever you say. Just be here when you are wrong. I'll be waiting.

[JT123]

Okay man, whatever you say. Just be here when you are wrong. I'll be waiting.
I'll be here, and if I am wrong I will owe you and the Wade stans a huge apology. Unfortunately I don't think that is going to happen though.

[JT123]

Anyone talking about player loyalty deserves to be banned from the internet.

This year alone we have saw: the Celtics trade Pierce and Garnett, Pacers trade Granger, and the Heat cut Miller.

Please stop with the player loyalty nonsense.

If Lebron James was 36 and played 20 years in Cleveland, Dan Gilbert would trade Lebron in a heartbeat if it suited him.

Just stop.
Ethered.

[Mr. Incredible]

I'll be here, and if I am wrong I will owe you and the Wade stans a huge apology. Unfortunately I don't think that is going to happen though.
Again, I'm not a Wade Stan whatsoever.

[All Net]

If they end. Up winning do You think he will care?

[Dresta]

Lebron has to be fed up with Wade's absences at this point, tonight makes the 27th or 28th game Wade has sat, Lebron is literally carrying this entire show right now to a Final, and it's not even the Playoffs yet. He has his fair share of ailments at the moment (back) and they'll only grow as the years go. Do people really think Wade will just suddenly turn it on again? He's been getting destroyed by guys like Lance and Livingston all season.

Don't you think Lebron's fed up with Wade sitting on his ass while enjoying the benefits of his prime play? There's an abundance of players around the League who can provide a better second option than this guy, including a Melo or a Steph Curry and Bron knows it. Win or Lose he's gone.
Huh?

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400489242



:facepalm Actually he can, since he's carried Wade to championships each of the last two years. Lebron has MORE than made up for 2011. Wade wouldn't have even been in the Finals without Lebron. :no:
No titles without Wade.

Wouldn't have got past the Pacers in 12 without Wade. Certainly wouldn't have won in 13 without Wade. See how easy it is to do that?

Bron will never make up for 11.

[aj1987]

Huh?

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400489242

21/5/4/2 on 12 shots in the first game and 22/2/2/1 on 11 shots in the second against the Nets.

17/6/6/3 in the first game against Indiana. 32/3/1/3 in the 2nd and 15/4/4/1/1 on 11 shots in 31 minutes in the 3rd.

[ILLsmak]

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.

I think this is illogical. I'm having a hard time grasping what you are even talking about. You don't think Bron could average 17-7-7 on the Heat and get a W? I disagree.

If by some stretch LeBron decided to become 3rd option and did it correctly, I think their team would still be really, really good.

Also, as a second option it's not about your stats as much as it is about scoring in key moments and keeping the defense honest.

Just sayin', I feel that your comparison is kind of sloppy especially because it seems like if Bron had played OK (or Wade level) in the 2011 Finals they would have actually won... as a 1st year team without the ridiculous amount of vet help they have now.

-Smak

[HOoopCityJones]

If they end. Up winning do You think he will care?

When it's time to decide who gets what money, yea.

[HOoopCityJones]

Huh?

http://espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?id=400489242



This is very impressive game from Wade, but this just proves my point even further. If Wade still producing like this in this year's Playoffs and Finals, he's gonna feel entitled to more money too. Win or Lose.

[jzek]

Good. Hopefully he realizes Wade is done and Bosh will not help him win titles after this season so he can leave Miami.

Fukk these coattail riders.

[Bandito]

They would have never reached the finals without Lebron or gotten anywhere close to it. Wade should be thanking Lebron for 2 rings. Lebron carried Miami to 2 rings, so you are wrong. Wade had nothing but first round losses in the years before Lebron arrived.

Lebron went 17-7-7 47% in the 2011 NBA finals. Why is it when Wade does something similar they can win the NBA finals (2012,2013 NBA finals) yet when Lebron did it they lost? Hint: Lebron carries that team.

If Lebron ever played like Wade or Bosh did in the 2013 ECF the Heat would be swept and lose every game by 20 points.
Dat logic:bowdown:


is so retarded

[tmacattack33]

Lebron choked away Wade's FMVP in 2011. Honestly he cant say shit to anyone on that team if they lose.

With the way that way played in the Boston and Chicago series, they were not going to make the Finals if it wasn't for Lebron.

So that's nullified.

It's been three years of Wade riding Lebron to two rings. And this year, the OP is right...Wade has been allowed to just coast and miss games while Lebron has to play every night. And the age gap between them is only like two years, it's not like Wade is 36 yrs old right now.

[HOoopCityJones]

You guys are so deluded.

Lebron has been carrying the brunt of the work for the Heat (cept 2011) since he came, however without Wade, Lebron will be relying on scrubs in the 4th Q situations.

[pegasus]

Lebron was bitching to the media just a few weeks ago how Wade came back and messed up his rhythm. He's out again, so what's the problem now?

Let's admit it. Lebron does not want Wade to play well and steal his thunder but he does desperately need him to win close games.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

the problem with Wade is he already has his legacy and winning some more titles as the seond option wont make the legacy that much better.
thats why he is giving minimal effort, even in the playoffs:facepalm

[HiphopRelated]

With the way that way played in the Boston and Chicago series, they were not going to make the Finals if it wasn't for Lebron.

So that's nullified.

It's been three years of Wade riding Lebron to two rings. And this year, the OP is right...Wade has been allowed to just coast and miss games while Lebron has to play every night. And the age gap between them is only like two years, it's not like Wade is 36 yrs old right now.
Wade had the better series vs Boston in 11

[secund2nun]

i can tell u only 15 years old kid...first of all wade made the playoffs in 07...they lost to the bulls in the first round....he missed the playoffs in 08 due to injuries..heat finished the season like with one of the worst records..thus gettin mike beasely with the 2nd pick in the 08 draft...in the 09 playoffs they faced a VERY good hawks team and lost in i believe 6 or 7 games....2010 playoffs they went against a VERY good boston celtics team and lost in either 5 or 6....go do your research then get back at me

I have done my research.

07-08 season is what I meant they missed the playoffs and injuries are not an excuse as they went 9-41 in the games Wade played.

You act like they the Hawks were some legendary team lol. They were a 4th seed in the East :oldlol: Not to mention why did Miami only finish with the 5th best record in the weak East? If they did better in the regular season they would not have had to face this juggernaut legendary 4th seed Hawks squad in the first round. And again in 2010 playoffs why were they a 5th , why so low? That's on them.

[secund2nun]

I think this is illogical. I'm having a hard time grasping what you are even talking about. You don't think Bron could average 17-7-7 on the Heat and get a W? I disagree.

If by some stretch LeBron decided to become 3rd option and did it correctly, I think their team would still be really, really good.

Also, as a second option it's not about your stats as much as it is about scoring in key moments and keeping the defense honest.

Just sayin', I feel that your comparison is kind of sloppy especially because it seems like if Bron had played OK (or Wade level) in the 2011 Finals they would have actually won... as a 1st year team without the ridiculous amount of vet help they have now.

-Smak

In the ECF or the Finals? No I don't believe they would. They would get beat if he averaged that especially with this injured past prime Wade. They could get away with it in the first and second round as long as Wade and Bosh were reasonably healthy.

My post there was to stop this non sense that Lebron owes Wade something. Lebron was the main reason Miami won the last 2 titles, not to mention Wade's 2011 ECF was clearly worse than Lebron's 2011 finals but this is conveniently ignored by the Lebron bashers.

[secund2nun]

Dat logic:bowdown:


is so retarded

Yeah Wade is carrying the team from sitting on the bench and Bosh carries the team from being punked on the court every night which gives Miami the energy to win titles similar to how the Monsters get energy from scaring kids....logic :banana:

[navy]

Wade's 2011 ECF was clearly worse than Lebron's 2011 finals but this is conveniently ignored by the Lebron bashers.
It wasnt. Wade played bad, but he at least showed up in all the close fourth quarters and overtime. Plus the Bulls had a slower pace, so big numbers werent important. Lebron was just roasted on offense and Defense vs the Mavs. There is playing bad (Wade vs Chicago) and straight choking (Lebron vs Mavs)

[secund2nun]

It wasnt. Wade played bad, but he at least showed up in all the close fourth quarters and overtime. Plus the Bulls had a slower pace, so big numbers werent important. Lebron was just roasted on offense and Defense vs the Mavs. There is playing bad (Wade vs Chicago) and straight choking (Lebron vs Mavs)

Lebron played better vs Dallas than Wade did vs Chicago. Miami can win tough series with Wade playing like a poor role player, but if Lebron plays like a great role player (Imagine how much ISH would *********e if a role player averaged 17-7-7 in the finals) they can't win a CF or finals series. Wade shot 40% in the Chicago series- that has nothing to do with pace. That's bad. Lebron shot 46-47% vs Dallas.

[aj1987]

I have done my research.

07-08 season is what I meant they missed the playoffs and injuries are not an excuse as they went 9-41 in the games Wade played.
If you actually did your research, you would know that Wade's supporting cast was around 837598270293740923 times worse than the LeBron's. That's not saying much as LeBron had a total scrub lineup. Still, Wade had it worse. Much worse.



You act like they the Hawks were some legendary team lol. They were a 4th seed in the East :oldlol: Not to mention why did Miami only finish with the 5th best record in the weak East? If they did better in the regular season they would not have had to face this juggernaut legendary 4th seed Hawks squad in the first round. And again in 2010 playoffs why were they a 5th , why so low? That's on them.
Wade had a team that consisted of a 2nd year Chalmers (who's the starting PG now), a 2nd year Beasley (who's not even playing anymore and no team wanted him), and starting centers who were terrible (understatement). You're bitching about that?

Wade basically dragged teams that would've won 10 games or under to 43 and 47 wins.

[miggyme1]

I have done my research.

07-08 season is what I meant they missed the playoffs and injuries are not an excuse as they went 9-41 in the games Wade played.

You act like they the Hawks were some legendary team lol. They were a 4th seed in the East :oldlol: Not to mention why did Miami only finish with the 5th best record in the weak East? If they did better in the regular season they would not have had to face this juggernaut legendary 4th seed Hawks squad in the first round. And again in 2010 playoffs why were they a 5th , why so low? That's on them.


so its all dwyane wades fault? last i checked its a team game. take dwade off those teams and they dont sniff the playoffs....same as those cavs teams...so again where is your logic? u clown someone for not gettin out the first round but if it wasnt for that person that team wouldnt even be in the playoffs.......so again what is your logic? dwade is a loser? if so...u can say the same about lebron...hmmmm he didnt win it until he went to miami.....right???? EXACTLY.....see ya around

[Mass Debator]

With the way that way played in the Boston and Chicago series, they were not going to make the Finals if it wasn't for Lebron.

So that's nullified.

It's been three years of Wade riding Lebron to two rings. And this year, the OP is right...Wade has been allowed to just coast and miss games while Lebron has to play every night. And the age gap between them is only like two years, it's not like Wade is 36 yrs old right now.
So much fail in this post.

- Their age gap is 3 years (technically 18 days until the 3 year mark). Lebron is 29. Wade was still playing superstar ball at that age.

- Wade did great vs Boston series in 2011 averaging 30/7/5 on 53%. Ended in 5. Lebron averaged 28/8/4 on 47% vs the Celtics so we can stay they both needed each other. Both had 2 bad games.

- He did below average to his standard against the Bulls (which he always does against the Bulls), but still played great D and was clutch. Lebron was 26/8/6 on 45%. Bosh had a great Bulls series offensively which is what should be expected of him when 1 is struggling.

- You can say Wade was riding Lebron for 2 rings, but honestly, they don't get pass the Celtics in both years, Pacers in 2012, and Spurs last year without Wade (maybe the Thunder too which Wade played very good).

Lebron needs Wade mentally and Wade needs Lebron physically. Together, they're on their quest to get 3 straight rings. Almost 4. Appreciate.

[Solefade]

You guys are stans and really haven't picked up on this guy's self centered personality yet huh? Lebron is about ME first.

And don't think he doesn't realize Wade will always have one more than him as long as they play together.


Kobe stans would know all about this :lol

[Solefade]

Lebron was bitching to the media just a few weeks ago how Wade came back and messed up his rhythm. He's out again, so what's the problem now?

Let's admit it. Lebron does not want Wade to play well and steal his thunder but he does desperately need him to win close games.


lol what are you basing this off of?

the "head band" game where lebron brought the team back in game 6 before ray's shot and mike miller was playing well, spo inserted wade back in and they lost their rhythm and spacing was ****ed up. :confusedshrug:

[HOoopCityJones]

Kobe stans would know all about this :lol

Yup, we don't deny his selfishness either like a bunch of delusional faggits :lol

"Lebron passes!!!! He's not self centered!"

*Walks around with shirt that says check my stats*

[aj1987]

So much fail in this post.

- Their age gap is 3 years (technically 18 days until the 3 year mark). Lebron is 29. Wade was still playing superstar ball at that age.

- Wade did great vs Boston series in 2011 averaging 30/7/5 on 53%. Ended in 5. Lebron averaged 28/8/4 on 47% vs the Celtics so we can stay they both needed each other. Both had 2 bad games.

- He did below average to his standard against the Bulls (which he always does against the Bulls), but still played great D and was clutch. Lebron was 26/8/6 on 45%. Bosh had a great Bulls series offensively which is what should be expected of him when 1 is struggling.

- You can say Wade was riding Lebron for 2 rings, but honestly, they don't get pass the Celtics in both years, Pacers in 2012, and Spurs last year without Wade (maybe the Thunder too which Wade played very good).

Lebron needs Wade mentally and Wade needs Lebron physically. Together, they're on their quest to get 3 straight rings. Almost 4. Appreciate.
:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

[aj1987]

Yup, we don't deny his selfishness either like a bunch of delusional faggits :lol

"Lebron passes!!!! He's not self centered!"

*Walks around with shirt that says check my stats*
We've seen what Kobe did against the Pistons in '04 with a PRIME SHAQ. Chucked them out of games. He tried to be THE man and failed MISERABLY. Worse than LeBron's '07 and '11 Finals combined.

[secund2nun]

[QUOTE]If you actually did your research, you would know that Wade's supporting cast was around 837598270293740923 times worse than the LeBron's. That's not saying much as LeBron had a total scrub lineup. Still, Wade had it worse. Much worse.


Both supporting casts were trash along with both of their coaches. Even if Wade's cast was a bit worse what they accomplished with it was world's apart. Wade could do no better than a 5th seed and a first round loss with his cast and he was in his prime. Pre-prime Lebron led his weak cast to the finals, CF, and the 2nd round every other time and he led his weak cast to the #1 seed a few times, the #2 seed, and a couple of more top 4 seeds.




Wade had a team that consisted of a 2nd year Chalmers (who's the starting PG now), a 2nd year Beasley (who's not even playing anymore and no team wanted him), and starting centers who were terrible (understatement). You're bitching about that?

I am not bitching about it. My response was part of an argument you can read it on the prior pages.

[secund2nun]

Kobe stans would know all about this :lol

Raping women, cheating on his hot wife, stealing credit, regular season MVP and finals MVP, deflecting blame, falsely being called an all time great....Kobe lives quite the life :oldlol:

[HOoopCityJones]

We've seen what Kobe did against the Pistons in '04 with a PRIME SHAQ. Chucked them out of games. He tried to be THE man and failed MISERABLY. Worse than LeBron's '07 and '11 Finals combined.

We saw what LBJ did with his prime self, prime Dwade and Prime Bosh.


Every time you bring up 2004 in front of me, make sure to remember your boy choked on that Dirk dick in 2011. :cheers:

[secund2nun]

so its all dwyane wades fault? last i checked its a team game. take dwade off those teams and they dont sniff the playoffs....same as those cavs teams...so again where is your logic? u clown someone for not gettin out the first round but if it wasnt for that person that team wouldnt even be in the playoffs.......so again what is your logic? dwade is a loser? if so...u can say the same about lebron...hmmmm he didnt win it until he went to miami.....right???? EXACTLY.....see ya around

Replace Wade with Lebron and they advanced past the first round every season and get a top 3 seed every season as well.

I didn't call Wade a loser. The argument began by someone saying Lebron needed Wade because Wade had a ring before Lebron and Lebron had none before joining Wade. I then brought up that once Shaq left Wade didn't even win a playoff series and lost in the first round to ATL the season before Lebron joined which led to this Wade vs Lebron comparison.

[AlphaWolf24]

Anyone talking about player loyalty deserves to be banned from the internet.

This year alone we have saw: the Celtics trade Pierce and Garnett, Pacers trade Granger, and the Heat cut Miller.

Please stop with the player loyalty nonsense.

If Lebron James was 36 and played 20 years in Cleveland, Dan Gilbert would trade Lebron in a heartbeat if it suited him.

Just stop.


This guy :lol ...:facepalm

getting traded in the twilight of your career ( often times to a contender, like Pierce , Garnett were supposedly going to do) is vastly different then what Lebron James did.



#1. He was playing for his hometown team ( 20 minutes from where he grew up) in front of his Fans that supported him more then any.

#2 The Cavs were a great team that were were winning 60 games a season and making it to the ECFinals!!...they were just in the NBA Finals a few years beforehand.

#3. Lebron James was just hitting his prime and playing on a championship caliber Cavs team ( To anyone saying they couldn't win a title ...you are a basketball illiterate, Cavs were on the cusp...If LBJ played like he did in 2012 - 13 in Cleveland...the Cavs could have won in 10')



- please save the " why should he stayed in Cleveland"..." loyaty is not in sports"...derp...derp...


- Lebron made one of the biggest B!tchmoves in Sports History.....He turned his back on the people who loved him the most. Loyalty is what makes sports competitive!! .....it's the fuel to the fire.....

- There is a big difference between what LBJ did to Cle, then what KG did to MS or what Shaq did to Orlando or what Boston did to PP. ( Brooklyn was supposed to be contenders and PP has only a few years left)

if you can't see this...then you are blind as a bat.




Samurai Swish is 100% correct.....and one of the reason MJ was so adored was because he lifted Chi town to Glory after many seasons of failure.

1 title for Chicago would mean much more ...then if MJ went to Boston or Detroit and switched teams.....

I really do hope players look at what LBJ did as a mistake.....they should try and stay with their teams, especially if the teams give them whatever they want ( like Cleveland did with LBJ)

[secund2nun]

We saw what LBJ did with his prime self, prime Dwade and Prime Bosh.


Every time you bring up 2004 in front of me, make sure to remember your boy choked on that Dirk dick in 2011. :cheers:

First season, no chemistry,garbage coach, and Prime Shaq destroys both prime Wade and Sissy Bosh combined.

Kobe= riding front courts to titles since 2000.

[aj1987]

[QUOTE=aj1987]

Both supporting casts were trash along with both of their coaches. Even if Wade's cast was a bit worse what they accomplished with it was world's apart. Wade could do no better than a 5th seed and a first round loss with his cast and he was in his prime. Pre-prime Lebron led his weak cast to the finals, CF, and the 2nd round every other time and he led his weak cast to the #1 seed a few times, the #2 seed, and a couple of more top 4 seeds.

Do you honestly believe that LeBron could've done any better with Wades' '09 and '10 supporting casts? Actually, forget about the '10 season. Do you remember the '09 season? You wouldn't be taking if you saw Wades' play during that season.

Wade never even had anyone on Mo's or Z's level. Heck, the best teams he had around him during his peak were designed for the '10 offseason. In other words, scrubs.

[HOoopCityJones]

First season, no chemistry,garbage coach, and Prime Shaq destroys both prime Wade and Sissy Bosh combined.

Kobe= riding front courts to titles since 2000.

:lol Karl Malone was out.

Excuses don't matter pussyboy.

You wanna bring up failures , we can do it all day, but don't act like your boy ain't never shit a couple eggs.

[aj1987]

We saw what LBJ did with his prime self, prime Dwade and Prime Bosh.


Every time you bring up 2004 in front of me, make sure to remember your boy choked on that Dirk dick in 2011. :cheers:
Lets also not forget about '00, '01, and '08. Kobe is a bigger choker than LeBron. The only reason that Kobe gets revered as a clutch player is because of his stans.

[HOoopCityJones]

Lets also not forget about '00, '01, and '08. Kobe is a bigger choker than LeBron. The only reason that Kobe gets revered as a clutch player is because of his stans.

:roll: You mad Kobe's played more Playoff Basketball than LBJ gags in.

[secund2nun]

[QUOTE=secund2nun]

Do you honestly believe that LeBron could've done any better with Wades' '09 and '10 supporting casts? Actually, forget about the '10 season. Do you remember the '09 season? You wouldn't be taking if you saw Wades' play during that season.

Wade never even had anyone on Mo's or Z's level. Heck, the best teams he had around him during his peak were designed for the '10 offseason. In other words, scrubs.

Yes. I feel Lebron was easily a better player than Wade and would have easily done more with that same cast than Wade did. I saw Wade's play that season. I also saw Miami end up with the 5th seed in the East and lose in the first round....and that was prime and peak Wade. Lebron has never lost in the first round before.

Z was merely a role player and Mo was a scrub. Lebron was doing much more damage than Wade every did after Shaq and he was doing it before Mo and many years before his prime.

Lebron as a 22 year old led his team (No Mo Williams) to the 4th seed and the 2nd round of the playoffs where they lost in 7 to a good Pistons squad.

As a 23 year old Lebron led his team to the 2nd seed and the finals.
when 24 year old he led them to a 4th seed and 2nd round. As a 24 year old led them to the #1 seed and 2nd round. When he was 25 he led them to the #1 seed and the ECF.

Meanwhile 26-28 year old prime/peak Wade couldn't do any better than a 5th seed and a first round loss.

[secund2nun]

:lol Karl Malone was out.

Excuses don't matter pussyboy.

You wanna bring up failures , we can do it all day, but don't act like your boy ain't never shit a couple eggs.

Lebron had one series in his first season in Miami on a team with no chemistry, no fit, no,role players, and a garbage coach where he underperformed (yet was better than Kobe in the 04 and 08 finals :oldlol: )

Lebron was the man and led his team to 2 titles. PRIME Kobe was a first round loser without an elite front court carrying him. Gasol should have won 09 and 10 finals MVP. Be happy media hype gifted Kobe all of these false accomplishments like the regular season MVP and both finals MVP and the mythical top 10 all time status which is a joke. Kobe is not even a top 15 player of all time.

[tpols]

Lets also not forget about '00, '01, and '08. Kobe is a bigger choker than LeBron. The only reason that Kobe gets revered as a clutch player is because of his stans.

Kobe led the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring in 01.. was clutch as hell in both the portland and indiana series in 00, and had some of the best clutch/takeover stats in 08 all year especially out west until the Finals where he ran into one of the best defensive teams of all time.. on a completely different level defensively than the 11 Mavs..

[aj1987]

:roll: You mad Kobe's played more Playoff Basketball than LBJ gags in.
Bryant - 25.6 PPG 5.1 RPG 4.7 APG 1.4 SPG 0.7 BPG on 54% TS
LeBron - 28.1 PPG 8.6 RPG 6.7 APG 1.7 SPG 0.9 BPG on56.7 % TS

LeBron SHITS on Kobe when it comes to the playoffs. Yeah, sure, Kobe played more, but lets not act like LeBron played with a noter top 6 GOAT.

[HOoopCityJones]

Bryant - 25.6 PPG 5.1 RPG 4.7 APG 1.4 SPG 0.7 BPG on 54% TS
LeBron - 28.1 PPG 8.6 RPG 6.7 APG 1.7 SPG 0.9 BPG on56.7 % TS

LeBron SHITS on Kobe when it comes to the playoffs. Yeah, sure, Kobe played more, but lets not act like LeBron played with a noter top 6 GOAT.

Lebron was bouncing balls off of his feet and losing to Dwight before he went to Miami.

Getting swept by The Spurs before that coming out of the most depleted East of all time.

This supposed Playoff dominance is a very recent thing.

All these statistic achievements are cool , but when did they really start to lead to W's? When the **** Teamed up. GTFO my thread pussyboy.

[aj1987]

Tl;dr I'm a retarded LeBron stan.



Kobe led the league in 4th quarter playoff scoring in 01.. was clutch as hell in both the portland and indiana series in 00, and had some of the best clutch/takeover stats in 08 all year especially out west until the Finals where he ran into one of the best defensive teams of all time.. on a completely different level defensively than the 11 Mavs..


Oh yeah, totally forgot about this. When you run into a good defensive team, the best option is to chuck up a shot over 3 defenders instead of passing the ball. :facepalm

You do realize that passing is a part of the game and that a Laker is considered to be one of the GOAT passers, right?

[AnaheimLakers24]

bran stans and wade stans are already fighting each other. only a matter of time before they themselves fight.

sources say wade banged brans gremlin wife and got the slut preggo

[aj1987]

Lebron was bouncing balls off of his feet and losing to Dwight before he went to Miami.
LeBron averaged 39/8/8 against the Magic and Kobe averaged 32/6/7. Both averaged 3.2 TOV's, BTW.


Getting swept by The Spurs before tha coming out of the most depleted East of all time.
Better than getting DESTROYED by the Pistons with a PRIME Shaq.


This supposed Playoff dominance is a very recent thing.

All these statistic achievements are cool , but when did they really start to lead to W's? When the **** Teamed up. GTFO my thread pussyboy.
Since the big 3 joined up - 27/9/6/2/1 on 58% TS.
Kobe since Shaq left the Lakers- 29/5/5/1/1 on 56% TS.

[tpols]

Oh yeah, totally forgot about this. When you run into a good defensive team, the best option is to chuck up a shot over 3 defenders instead of passing the ball. :facepalm

You do realize that passing is a part of the game and that a Laker is considered to be one of the GOAT passers, right?

08 was Kobe's best passing season probably in his whole career.. he was always trying to get guys involved.

When your fellow perimeter players are sasha vujajic, vladmir radmonovic, and derek fisher shooting a combined 39% with little ability to handle the ball against a suffocating defense, and your big men are being guarded and bullied off the block by a prime Kevin Garnett, there leaves little options.

I dont know why you even brought up the term choker for 01 and 00.. Kobe was anything but that for those years.


The main issue is the Mavs were the 8th best defense in 2011 and historically completely average defensively for a playoff team. The 08 Celtics were one of the best defenses all time and they held lebron that year to atrocious numbers as well. Lebron playing bad in 11 had more to do with his own mental state than the defense, while Kobe 08 had more to do with him playing one of the best defenses of all time. :confusedshrug:

[HOoopCityJones]

LeBron averaged 39/8/8 against the Magic and Kobe averaged 32/6/7. Both averaged 3.2 TOV's, BTW.


Better than getting DESTROYED by the Pistons with a PRIME Shaq.


Since the big 3 joined up - 27/9/6/2/1 on 58% TS.
Kobe since Shaq left the Lakers- 29/5/5/1/1 on 56% TS.


You pussyboys live in Arbitrary land.

[20Four]

LeBron averaged 39/8/8 against the Magic and Kobe averaged 32/6/7. Both averaged 3.2 TOV's, BTW.


Better than getting DESTROYED by the Pistons with a PRIME Shaq.


Since the big 3 joined up - 27/9/6/2/1 on 58% TS.
Kobe since Shaq left the Lakers- 29/5/5/1/1 on 56% TS.

Go outside B|tch you fvcking bandwagon b|tch whats your next team once your done fvcking the whole Miami team....lol dumbB\tch mutha fvcker

http://i.minus.com/iZmh26EgdTTm4.png

[Straight_Ballin]

This loser trying to act like Lebron is the only star in NBA history to leave the team that drafted him. :oldlol: Jordan stans and their insecurity. :facepalm

How can Jordan stans be insecure? 6/6 FMVP champion perfection style.
No one comes close.

[aj1987]

08 was Kobe's best passing season probably in his whole career.. he was always trying to get guys involved.
Didn't care enough to pass in the Finals though. I guess old habits and all...


When your fellow perimeter players are sasha vujajic, vladmir radmonovic, and derek fisher shooting a combined 39% with little ability to handle the ball against a suffocating defense, and your big men are being guarded and bullied off the block by a prime Kevin Garnett, there leaves little options.
Love the fact that you ignored Odom and Gasol.


I dont know why you even brought up the term choker for 01 and 00.. Kobe was anything but that for those years.
:biggums:

'00 Finals or the series against Portland or the series against Phoenix?

Yeah, those never happened, right?



The main issue is the Mavs were the 8th best defense in 2011 and historically completely average defensively for a playoff team. The 08 Celtics were one of the best defenses all time and they held lebron that year to atrocious numbers as well. Lebron playing bad in 11 had more to do with his own mental state than the defense, while Kobe 08 had more to do with him playing one of the best defenses of all time. :confusedshrug:
I do believe that LeBron choked in '11, but the Mav's defense had a lot to do with it as well. Please don't forget about Kobe's choke jobs in '06, '00, '04, and '08.


Go outside B|tch you fvcking bandwagon b|tch whats your next team once your done fvcking the whole Miami team....lol dumbB\tch mutha fvcker

Damn, son! Why you covering up those glorious tits?

[AlphaWolf24]

'00 Finals or the series against Portland or the series against Phoenix?

Yeah, those never happened, right?





Damn, son! Why you covering up those glorious tits?

WTF?...

I can't even debate this N!kka don't even watch basketball.

[Dresta]

Yes. I feel Lebron was easily a better player than Wade and would have easily done more with that same cast than Wade did. I saw Wade's play that season. I also saw Miami end up with the 5th seed in the East and lose in the first round....and that was prime and peak Wade. Lebron has never lost in the first round before.

Z was merely a role player and Mo was a scrub. Lebron was doing much more damage than Wade every did after Shaq and he was doing it before Mo and many years before his prime.

Lebron as a 22 year old led his team (No Mo Williams) to the 4th seed and the 2nd round of the playoffs where they lost in 7 to a good Pistons squad.

As a 23 year old Lebron led his team to the 2nd seed and the finals.
when 24 year old he led them to a 4th seed and 2nd round. As a 24 year old led them to the #1 seed and 2nd round. When he was 25 he led them to the #1 seed and the ECF.

Meanwhile 26-28 year old prime/peak Wade couldn't do any better than a 5th seed and a first round loss.You're just making cherry-picked comparison to support your idiotic argument.

Wade won a title with one of the most dominant finals performances of all time when he was 24. The same season, Lebron got ousted by the Pistons while shooting 51 TS%, a team Wade destroyed putting up more ppg than Bron did on 68 TS%.

See, i can do it too!

[20Four]

Damn, son! Why you covering up those glorious tits?


http://i.minus.com/iZmh26EgdTTm4.png

[aj1987]

WTF?...

I can't even debate this N!kka don't even watch basketball.
Aren't you the dude who made the "Lakers Championship Cruise" thread? :oldlol:

@ Dresta, You need to edit your post, brah. Your quotes are messed up.

@20four, Midget! :oldlol:

[AlphaWolf24]

Aren't you the dude who made the "Lakers Championship Cruise" thread? :oldlol:

@ Dresta, You need to edit your post, brah. Your quotes are messed up.

@20four, Midget! :oldlol:


Witch year?..I lost track considering we went to the Finals so many years?:confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

Witch year?..I lost track considering we went to the Finals so many years?:confusedshrug:
Touche, you son of a bitch! :oldlol:

Great comeback!

[tpols]

WTF?...

I can't even debate this N!kka don't even watch basketball.

Its absurd :oldlol: Kobe was on his fourth quarter grind and had some great clutch takeovers in 2000.. you could say he wasnt nearly as good an overall player back then but to bring up choking and 11 Bran ??

:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

Touche, you son of a bitch! :oldlol:

Great comeback!


I aint mad atchy'a....




(Looks up)




COT Damn!......nearly 5,000 posts in 1 year.

you puttin work....





go outside son.

[aj1987]

I aint mad atchy'a....




(Looks up)




COT Damn!......nearly 5,000 posts in 1 year.

you puttin work....





go outside son.
It takes about 30 minutes to post 13 times a day on ISH. Considering the fact that I have a smartphone, I'm almost always logged in and "active" on ISH.

Also, I wasn't making fun of you in my previous post. I was giving you props.

[TheMan]

Why would LeBron want to stick around for a rebuild? Yeah, he left CLE to join up with another elite player and a top F to make it easier on himself but he's done the heavy lifting to win back to backs.

This Heat team is almost done, Wade is only gonna get worse and Bosh is wasted on the perimeter as a shooter when he should be trying to help his team get boards but that's the design Miami has implemented to maximize Bran's strengths and it's led to 3 straight Finals so it has worked out fine for the Heat.

So if LeBron is smart and does what he should've in 2010 and joins the Bulls, I'll be like...
http://d2tq98mqfjyz2l.cloudfront.net/image_cache/129774868331120.jpeg

[J Shuttlesworth]

What if Wade decides he wants to win, and takes a paycut?

[JT123]

How can Jordan stans be insecure? 6/6 FMVP champion perfection style.
No one comes close.
I don't know, but they are. Notice how they refuse to acknowledge the greatness of any player from the current generation. When Kobe was running the NBA a few years ago they were talking mad shit about him, and now that Lebron is on top they are doing the EXACT same thing to him. And if Durant wins a few rings they will start to come after him too, just watch. :facepalm
If any Jordan stan actually believes Mike would have stayed in Chicago with Mo Williams as his second best player then they are even dumber than they act.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Lebron had one series in his first season in Miami on a team with no chemistry, no fit, no,role players, and a garbage coach where he underperformed (yet was better than Kobe in the 04 and 08 finals :oldlol: )

Lebron was the man and led his team to 2 titles. PRIME Kobe was a first round loser without an elite front court carrying him. Gasol should have won 09 and 10 finals MVP. Be happy media hype gifted Kobe all of these false accomplishments like the regular season MVP and both finals MVP and the mythical top 10 all time status which is a joke. Kobe is not even a top 15 player of all time.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

BrannyBran>MickeyMike
Mickey = weak era abuser:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Dengness9]

Marlo is a ****in bitch.

You can't be objective. We all can see this because this puss bag refuses to give any credit to KD or Kobe, or whoever is being compared to Delonte's son.

KD= Babied Beta Choker...... you are pathetic

And Mike isn't as good as Lefraud? You just showing more of that low bball ******

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Marlo is a ****in bitch.

You can't be objective. We all can see this because this puss bag refuses to give any credit to KD or Kobe, or whoever is being compared to Delonte's son.

KD= Babied Beta Choker...... you are pathetic

And Mike isn't as good as Lefraud? You just showing more of that low bball ******
Watch out, this one is very MAD:coleman:

[TheMan]

Watch out, this one is very MAD:coleman:
It's true, you're a shit poster and very biased.

Bron must be your father the way you carry on:rolleyes:

[TheMan]

BrannyBran>MickeyMike
Mickey = weak era abuser:roll: :roll: :roll:
Oh yeah, the EC is a real powerhouse:oldlol:

idiot:facepalm

[AlphaWolf24]

It takes about 30 minutes to post 13 times a day on ISH. Considering the fact that I have a smartphone, I'm almost always logged in and "active" on ISH.

Also, I wasn't making fun of you in my previous post. I was giving you props.


all good....No need to explain yourself...

Like I said, I aint madatchya..



Just worried about my peeples, my fellow ISH brethren.
Making sure we all go outside and get some fresh air.
I know some of y'all must be pale as Mufacka.

[secund2nun]

You're just making cherry-picked comparison to support your idiotic argument.

Wade won a title with one of the most dominant finals performances of all time when he was 24. The same season, Lebron got ousted by the Pistons while shooting 51 TS%, a team Wade destroyed putting up more ppg than Bron did on 68 TS%.

See, i can do it too!

Shaq was an elite player taking up a lot of attention in the post the year they won the title and the year they made the ECF.

I didn't cherry pick anything. You don't like the facts so you stay delusional. After winning a ring and making a ECF with Shaq Shaq then leaves, Wade improves and enters his prime yet gets nothing but 5th seeds and 1st round losses for those 3 seasons until Lebron joins in 2010. That's just the truth period. Take it or leave it.


I like Wade, but let's be real he is/was not on Lebron's level. Lebron was in the tier of players like Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem etc. Wade was not in that tier though he was a great player.

[HOoopCityJones]

Bump City.

Wade out AGAIN.

In arguably the most important game of the season.

[SpecialQue]

Bump City.

Wade out AGAIN.

In arguably the most important game of the season.

No, it's not.

[HOoopCityJones]

No, it's not.

Regular season game to clinch home court against THE conference rival? ****s yes it is.

You ni99as can keep hollering about the all that matters is Playoffs shit if you want, last time I check they're 4-o vs the Nets, and I think they've only won once vs The Pacers this year.

Heat need this win if just for the psychological victory.

[riseagainst]

wow... secund2nun and marlo are easily two of the most retarded people on this forum.

[aj1987]

Shaq was an elite player taking up a lot of attention in the post the year they won the title and the year they made the ECF.
:facepalm
You might want to rematch that ECF's in '05 and '06. Miami were up 3-2 and Wade gets injured. Shaq fold and the Heat lose the series.


After winning a ring and making a ECF with Shaq Shaq then leaves, Wade improves and enters his prime yet gets nothing but 5th seeds and 1st round losses for those 3 seasons until Lebron joins in 2010. That's just the truth period. Take it or leave it.
Do you even recall the teams that Wade had in '09 and '10?



I like Wade, but let's be real he is/was not on Lebron's level. Lebron was in the tier of players like Shaq, Duncan, Hakeem etc. Wade was not in that tier though he was a great player.
Prime Wade was was one pace to being a top 15 player, without LeBron. People were saying that Wade was better than Kobe before Kobe won his 2 rings. He had one of the greatest seasons ever for a perimeter player in '09. Give '09 and '10 Wade good teams, he's winning a ring and an MVP in at least one of those years.