Who are the most SKILLED players for every position?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Point Guard - Chris Paul
Shooting Guard - Kobe Bryant
Small Forward - Larry Bird
Power Forward - Kevin Garnett
Center - Hakeem Olajuwon

who u got:confusedshrug: :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[ballin33]

Magic's passing>anything Chris paul can do

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Magic's passing>anything Chris paul can do
CP3 is a midget for NBAs standards and hes a far better defender than Magic ever was:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Magic might be a better passer but his SIZE contributed alot to his success and mismatches hes not more skilled than CP:facepalm

[fpliii]

:applause:

[kshutts1]

Iverson
Kobe
Bird
Webber
Hakeem

[IncarceratedBob]

SG is Michael Jordan followed by Jerry West

[Genaro]

CP3 is a midget for NBAs standards and hes a far better defender than Magic ever was:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Magic might be a better passer but his SIZE contributed alot to his success and mismatches hes not more skilled than CP:facepalm
KG's speed and quickness as well, so I guess that Dirk should get the nod at PF.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

KG's speed and quickness as well, so I guess that Dirk should get the nod at PF.
Good point KG was really fast and long.............I can put Dirk there dont have problem with that:cheers:

[Harison]

Point Guard - Stockton, he was skilled at everything at elite level, i.e. for example more skilled defensively than Magic. Not a GOAT PG, but it wasnt the question. :D

Shooting Guard - Jordan.

On others I agree:

Small Forward - Larry Bird
Power Forward - Kevin Garnett
Center - Hakeem Olajuwon

[Mass Debator]

Ginobili is really skilled. An honorable mention

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Point Guard - Stockton, he was skilled at everything at elite level, i.e. for example more skilled defensively than Magic. Not a GOAT PG, but it wasnt the question. :D

Shooting Guard - Jordan.

On others I agree:

Small Forward - Larry Bird
Power Forward - Kevin Garnett
Center - Hakeem Olajuwon
CP is skilled at everything too. He was better shooter than Stockton (FT, midrange etc) and scorer. Better defender. Stockton mightve been better passer but he had Karl Malone and Jerry Sloan plus Utah "homecourt" that inflate some his assist number

[Beatlezz]

Point Guard - Gary Payton
Shooting Guard - Kobe Bryant
Small Forward - Larry Bird
Power Forward - Kevin Garnett
Center - Hakeem Olajuwon

:applause:

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Ginobili is really skilled. An honorable mention
AGREED so underrated Manu could do everything literally. Score, shoot, pass, defender he prolly the best passer at the 2 ever:cheers: :cheers:

[3peated]

ur list sucks. im not coming back to thsi shitty thread, fk u op

[PHILA]

PG: Robertson
SG: Jordan
SF: Bird/Barry
PF: Coleman
C: KAJ

[ZMonkey11]

SG has to be Kobe. I don't put Kobe in front of Jordan in anything besides skill and 3pt shot.

Kobe's footwork and ability toget his own shot off without the outlandish athleticism of Jordan is incredible. But don't be fooled, I got Jordan as Goat. But damn, Kobe is one of, if not the most skilled player I have ever seen.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Hard to say but

PG - CP3 or maybe Nash
SG - Pistol Pete
SF - Bird
PF - McHale
C - Hakeem

Them whiteboys :D

right after them, some even interchangeable:

PG - Nash; Oscar; Magic;
SG - Jordan; Kobe; West
SF - Barry; Dantley
PF - Duncan; KG
C - Kareem; Walton

[Mr. Jabbar]

i like how lebron has not even been mentioned by his stans :roll:

[kshutts1]

i like how lebron has not even been mentioned by his stans :roll:
Relative to Bird, he shouldn't be.

But I love how I'm the only one to mention Webber. Am I crazy? I see Webber as being very similar skill-wise to KG. Webber had better handles, though.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Relative to Bird, he shouldn't be.

But I love how I'm the only one to mention Webber. Am I crazy? I see Webber as being very similar skill-wise to KG. Webber had better handles, though.

webber had mad skills but kg was miles ahead in defensive skills

[FPJ]

Iverson
Bryant
Durant
Love
Bargnani

[Dro]

PG - Oscar Robertson, he can score, pass and rebound, oh and play defense..and he was tough..
SG - Jordan, come on now...Goat, end of story
SF - Bird - Obvious
PF - Charles Barkley
C - Wilt

[Solefade]

Larry Legend is most def more skilled than Lebron...but we ain't never seen a 6'8 260lb dude that's as athletic with the speed and combination of skills lebron has :confusedshrug:

[kshutts1]

webber had mad skills but kg was miles ahead in defensive skills
KG is miles ahead in terms of defensive ability... but is that because of the skills? Or the willingness to use them?

The "skills" question is always such a difficult one, because there are such variances in so many things. Did Webber have poor defensive skills? Or was he on a team that never once prioritized defense, and he just didn't care? Was he a good individual defender, but since his team was known for offensive output, and every other player on the team was a defensive liability, were his skills overlooked?

[Solefade]

KG is miles ahead in terms of defensive ability... but is that because of the skills? Or the willingness to use them?

The "skills" question is always such a difficult one, because there are such variances in so many things. Did Webber have poor defensive skills? Or was he on a team that never once prioritized defense, and he just didn't care? Was he a good individual defender, but since his team was known for offensive output, and every other player on the team was a defensive liability, were his skills overlooked?


when it comes to defense especially KG, it's more like physical capability and defensive instincts which a lot of players lack..like webber and amare

[kshutts1]

when it comes to defense especially KG, it's more like physical capability and defensive instincts which a lot of players lack..like webber and amare
Then are those really skills? Can they be improved upon?

[Cold soul]

Point Guard - Oscar Robertson
Shooting Guard - Kobe Bryant
Small Forward - Larry Bird
Power Forward - Dirk Nowitzki
Center - Hakeem Olajuwon

[SHAQisGOAT]

SG has to be Kobe. I don't put Kobe in front of Jordan in anything besides skill and 3pt shot.

Kobe's footwork and ability toget his own shot off without the outlandish athleticism of Jordan is incredible. But don't be fooled, I got Jordan as Goat. But damn, Kobe is one of, if not the most skilled player I have ever seen.

To me SG has to be this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1oUk7sgRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWkiO2Iz08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ

He was over 6'5'' w/o shoes and a pretty good athlete but not on the same athletic level as MJ or even Kobe.. And most times he'd put the show ahead of winning, played in the wrong era you can say, and at his best, before injuries, his teammates were pretty average.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Larry Legend is most def more skilled than Lebron...but we ain't never seen a 6'8 260lb dude that's as athletic with the speed and combination of skills lebron has :confusedshrug:

How about Wilt or Shaq? Not as fast, for example, of course, but bigger/taller and everything that came with it, and also athletic freaks with plenty of skill (more of "center-skill")

[kshutts1]

To me SG has to be this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1oUk7sgRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWkiO2Iz08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ

He was over 6'5'' w/o shoes and a pretty good athlete but not on the same athletic level as MJ or even Kobe.. And most times he'd put the show ahead of winning, played in the wrong era you can say, and at his best, before injuries, his teammates were pretty average.

Love how flashy he was. Great vids.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Love how flashy he was. Great vids.

:cheers:

Everyone loves/loved it, and like he even said, he played for the fans, he played to put on a show, way more often than not... And that type of mentality took much way from his potential impact and made his career "worse" than what he could've/should've been, though.

[oarabbus]

Pistol Pete > CP3
Oscar Robertson > CP3
MAgic > CP3

CP3 getting so overrated

[TheReal Kendall]

Stockton
MJ
Bird/Durant/Melo
Webber/Barkley
Vlade Divac/Hakeem

[Solefade]

How about Wilt or Shaq? Not as fast, for example, of course, but bigger/taller and everything that came with it, and also athletic freaks with plenty of skill (more of "center-skill")


never watched wilt but I definitely wouldn't say Shaq was the most skilled at his position. GOAT bball strength and maybe even GOAT center but def not most skilled.

[Solefade]

Then are those really skills? Can they be improved upon?

i wouldn't call those skills and i think it's something you either have or you don't..skills are something that can be improved or developed IMO

[SHAQisGOAT]

never watched wilt but I definitely wouldn't say Shaq was the most skilled at his position. GOAT bball strength and maybe even GOAT center but def not most skilled.

Neither would I but I wouldn't say the same for Lebron at SF.. Just was refering to what you've said.

[kshutts1]

i wouldn't call those skills and i think it's something you either have or you don't..skills are something that can be improved or developed IMO
My point exactly

[Dro]

To me SG has to be this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1oUk7sgRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWkiO2Iz08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ

He was over 6'5'' w/o shoes and a pretty good athlete but not on the same athletic level as MJ or even Kobe.. And most times he'd put the show ahead of winning, played in the wrong era you can say, and at his best, before injuries, his teammates were pretty average.

Shit, you should make a new thread for these...These are completely ridiculous how good Pistol was. Causing me to rethink my Jordan pick for skills...At the 2:00 minute for all those who think players only dribbled with one hand watch pistol go through the legs and then crossover like 2-3 times and shake the sh*t out of somebody, lol...He basically was Steve Nash before Steve Nash...

Edit - George Hill at the 5:00 minute mark...lol...Curry did him bad I forgot about that...

[Micku]

CP is skilled at everything too. He was better shooter than Stockton (FT, midrange etc) and scorer. Better defender. Stockton mightve been better passer but he had Karl Malone and Jerry Sloan plus Utah "homecourt" that inflate some his assist number

Eh. Well...Stockton shot 54% from midrange in 2000 on 300 attempts. That's where he got most of his points, and he didn't score a whole lot. He was always a good shooter too, and usually elite at the midrange. I don't think CP3 was that much better than Stockton in terms of midrange. But getting his own shot? Sure.


Anyway, no Gary Payton love around here? While he may not be the most overall skilled PG, he had mad footwork skillz in the post. Probably top tier guard in terms of footwork. He probably was the best PG in terms of footwork:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF-dNkPDTTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUeQane-zBo

[Milbuck]

Sabonis deserves a mention as far as most skilled center goes. It's a damn shame he was nowhere near his best when he came to the NBA.

[Round Mound]

Barkley Is Offensively,The Most Skilled PFs Ever

[Derivative]

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/toyotamotors/CareerStats_zpsd0f50f9c.jpg

http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/toyotamotors/AdvanceStats_zps09511cb7.jpg


http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/toyotamotors/Clutch1_zps065b73d0.jpg


http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s178/toyotamotors/Clutch2_zpse2ee3bf6.png

[SHAQisGOAT]

Shit, you should make a new thread for these...These are completely ridiculous how good Pistol was. Causing me to rethink my Jordan pick for skills...At the 2:00 minute for all those who think players only dribbled with one hand watch pistol go through the legs and then crossover like 2-3 times and shake the sh*t out of somebody, lol...He basically was Steve Nash before Steve Nash...

Edit - George Hill at the 5:00 minute mark...lol...Curry did him bad I forgot about that...

:cheers:

Yea people should definitely see stuff like that, especially before underrating or ignorantly speaking about a certain player, or ranking, even trashing, him without knowing a single thing.

Dude was certainly sick with it :bowdown: Completely unreal in terms of skill.. Too bad that most of his mentality and intangibles were on the other side of the fence, Pistol was simply the ultimate showman. With the mentality of some of the best ones you can think of in terms of that, and the intangibles :eek: he would've been top30, at the very least.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Eh. Well...Stockton shot 54% from midrange in 2000 on 300 attempts. That's where he got most of his points, and he didn't score a whole lot. He was always a good shooter too, and usually elite at the midrange. I don't think CP3 was that much better than Stockton in terms of midrange. But getting his own shot? Sure.


Anyway, no Gary Payton love around here? While he may not be the most overall skilled PG, he had mad footwork skillz in the post. Probably top tier guard in terms of footwork. He probably was the best PG in terms of footwork:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XF-dNkPDTTA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUeQane-zBo

And Stock also getting underrated in terms of defense here, shit..


GP one of the best PG's in the post ever :applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Kareem at center, and by a considerable margin.

The Hakeem-Kareem debates are a joke. A 38-39 year old Kareem, who couldn't jump over an atom, was just murdering Hakeem. 32 ppg on a .621 FG% over a span of 10 straight H2H games, including three games of 40, 43, and 46 points.

Now, just what would a peak Kareem, circa '70-71 thru 71-72 have carpet-bombed Hakeem with?

And think about this...just what unfathomable numbers would a 23 year old KAJ have dropped on a 39 year old Hakeem?

[bizil]

For my criteria, Im using who's is a great scorer, great passer, great defender, and great rebounder all in one. Or the closest to that for their position:

PG- GP
SG- MJ
SF- Bron
PF- KG
C- Kareem

[LAZERUSS]

BTW, what are the definition of skills here?

Scoring, rebounding, passing, defense, and blocked shots? And add staggering efficiency from the field?

Hmmm...I wonder what center would have the best credentials for those "skills?"

[Micku]

To me SG has to be this guy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq1oUk7sgRY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfWkiO2Iz08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qv0YS1wHoQ

He was over 6'5'' w/o shoes and a pretty good athlete but not on the same athletic level as MJ or even Kobe.. And most times he'd put the show ahead of winning, played in the wrong era you can say, and at his best, before injuries, his teammates were pretty average.


I only saw a few of vids of him. He had some crazy skills with passing. I was in awe when I watched him demonstrate one of his pass moves with Red Auerbach. I thought, "No way he could do that in a game". A few months later, I found a game where he did that same pass in a game.

If we talking about the best fancy passing SG, it's Pistol Pete imo. He did some passes that Magic Johnson and Larry Bird never did. He knew how to put on a show.

I wished he would've played in the 80s or above on a better team. But if he did, he probably wouldn't inspire Magic and the rest of the gang.

[WillC]

C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Connie Hawkins
SF - Elgin Baylor
SG - Pete Maravich
PG - Earl Monroe

[kshutts1]

C - Wilt Chamberlain
PF - Connie Hawkins
SF - Elgin Baylor
SG - Pete Maravich
PG - Earl Monroe

Connie Hawkins for PF is a stretch... and considering his best years were not really played in the NBA, I'm not sure he qualifies, period. Obviously it's up to each person's interpretation, as no "guidelines" were set. Just saying.

[WillC]

Thanks for your opinion.

It doesn't say in the title question that the player's best years needed to be in the NBA. Irrespective, he was still an All-NBA 1st Team member, so it's not like he was a scrub once he left the ABA.

Compared to the players of his time, he was easily the most skilled forward alive.

As for him playing power forward, he shared time at both forward positions, as did Elgin Baylor (who I also have in my all-time most-skilled team), so they can share duties at the four.

[SHAQisGOAT]

I only saw a few of vids of him. He had some crazy skills with passing. I was in awe when I watched him demonstrate one of his pass moves with Red Auerbach. I thought, "No way he could do that in a game". A few months later, I found a game where he did that same pass in a game.

If we talking about the best fancy passing SG, it's Pistol Pete imo. He did some passes that Magic Johnson and Larry Bird never did. He knew how to put on a show.

I wished he would've played in the 80s or above on a better team. But if he did, he probably wouldn't inspire Magic and the rest of the gang.

:cheers:

[Ronaldinho]

For my criteria, Im using who's is a great scorer, great passer, great defender, and great rebounder all in one. Or the closest to that for their position:

PG- GP
SG- MJ
SF- Bron
PF- KG
C- Kareem

You dont understand what skill means.

[Sakkreth]

PG - Oscar
SG - MJ
SF - Bird
PF - Barkley
C - Sabonis

[Dro]

I only saw a few of vids of him. He had some crazy skills with passing. I was in awe when I watched him demonstrate one of his pass moves with Red Auerbach. I thought, "No way he could do that in a game". A few months later, I found a game where he did that same pass in a game.

If we talking about the best fancy passing SG, it's Pistol Pete imo. He did some passes that Magic Johnson and Larry Bird never did. He knew how to put on a show.

I wished he would've played in the 80s or above on a better team. But if he did, he probably wouldn't inspire Magic and the rest of the gang.
And those underhanded full court passes, right on the money:bowdown:

[tmacattack33]

PG: Bogues
SG: Iverson
SF: Bird
PF: Barkley
C: Hakeem

Sorry but there are literally 100 times (and maybe closer to 1,000) more people who are 5'11 than 6'6. Iverson was the best out of all the people 5'11 and up. MJ was the best out of all of the ones 6'6 and up.

Also, a lot of Iverson's success was due to crazy quicnkness and explosion. So there may even be a better answer out there, like possibly Kyrie or someone similar.