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Milbuck
04-10-2014, 09:42 PM
Do they win it all? Or how close do they come?

Peak Chris Paul. Doesn't have to be 2008-09, could be 2007-08 as well. Either way, I think they win it all.

STATUTORY
04-10-2014, 09:43 PM
lose by 60 in the playoffs on his home court?

that's CP3 in his "prime"

Milbuck
04-10-2014, 09:46 PM
lose by 60 in the playoffs on his home court?

that's CP3 in his "prime"
Are you suggesting that with peak CP3, the Clippers would lose similarly to that?

STATUTORY
04-10-2014, 09:48 PM
Are you suggesting that with peak CP3, the Clippers would lose similarly to that?
no im saying switch prime CP3 with this CP3, clippers fortune dont buoy by that much.

CP3's impact on games is contingent on his teammates hitting their shots, he can't take over as a singular force the way bigger plays can.

navy
04-10-2014, 10:03 PM
Do they win it all? Or how close do they come?

Peak Chris Paul. Doesn't have to be 2008-09, could be 2007-08 as well. Either way, I think they win it all.
Maybe. Then the Clippers are already the best( or 2nd) offense in the nba. They need defense to take that next step.

tmacattack33
04-10-2014, 10:03 PM
They'd be the slight favorites to win the West right now I would think with 2008 Chris Paul.

Smook A.
04-10-2014, 10:04 PM
Clippers would be slightly better but CP3 is still pretty much the same guy from the Hornets. In 2008-08 he averaged 23 ppg and 11 assists. This season he's putting up 19/11. Chris Paul could average 23 if he wanted to.

The 2009 Chris Paul averaged 16 FGA on 50% and the current one is averaging 14 FGA on 46%. If the current one was averaged 16 FGA im sure he'd be averaging atleast 21. To answer your question, I think the 08-09 Paul would take the Clips to the finals or atleast the WCF but I wouldn't be surprised if the current one did the same this season.

SHAQisGOAT
04-10-2014, 10:06 PM
All I'll say is that peak CP3 is one of the best peaks for a PG ever, and yea better than current CP3, not by a mile but definitely better.

buddha
04-10-2014, 10:10 PM
you'd get the same damn result.. how is Chris Paul not at his peak right now?

he is the same exact player... the only reason he had better stats was because he played more minutes and didn't have Blake Griffin to defer too.

fpliii
04-10-2014, 10:13 PM
All I'll say is that peak CP3 is one of the best peaks for a PG ever, and yea better than current CP3, not by a mile but definitely better.
This. CP3 is criminally underrated on ISH.

Smoke117
04-10-2014, 10:19 PM
They'd be better for sure. Chris Paul before he tore his Meniscus was putting up prime Magic Johnson numbers. He was basically robbed of the MVP in 08 by Kobe Bryant. The guy led his team to 56 wins averaging 21.1ppg 11.6apg 2.7spg (both seasons highs between all players) an absurd 2.6topg to the 11.6apg and 21.1ppg he was averaging while basically leading the team in defensive win shares and being their best defender as a POINT GUARD. Kobe was given an career MVP that he had no business receiving over Chris Paul who was putting up Magic Johnson prime numbers while being a better defensive player than Magic.

Milbuck
04-10-2014, 11:01 PM
you'd get the same damn result.. how is Chris Paul not at his peak right now?

he is the same exact player... the only reason he had better stats was because he played more minutes and didn't have Blake Griffin to defer too.
He was most certainly not the same exact player. His mobility, explosiveness, quickness was all on a different level. Yeah his intelligence and vision didn't go away, but physically he was much better. This Chris Paul is not at all him at his peak.

VIntageNOvel
04-10-2014, 11:08 PM
pre injury CP3, is the best PG since magic bar none
his athleticism has faded since then

simple: you see how great they think about anthony davis?

CP carried the worse hornets team further than davis
impactwise pre-injury CP >> davis

damn that make me remember that fukcing jew stern that possibly cost kobe ring #6 :mad:

joeyjoejoe
04-11-2014, 06:17 AM
Yea clipps would be favoured to win it all with peak cp, haters like to bring up the denver series but will never talk about the two series in 08 or even the lakers series which was post injury

cos88
04-11-2014, 06:24 AM
i don't want to choose

Random_Guy
04-11-2014, 06:26 AM
theyd be wayyyyyyyy better than this current squad, people that's comparing the numbers just forgot how good prime cp3 was. He had one of the fastest first steps, hell he dunked over Prime dwight lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDjzvJYWtoc
Prime Cp3 was an entirely different player to this current one. He was much more aggresive and looks to score instead of just dribbling the ball around for 20 secs.

Bodhi
04-11-2014, 06:49 AM
you'd get the same damn result.. how is Chris Paul not at his peak right now?

Having cartilage in your knee is a pretty big deal

One of the great what ifs that no one talks about is how good Chris Paul could have been if he never got hurt

notatop29pg
04-11-2014, 07:02 AM
I doubt it.

He's still the same player, he just learn't to not rely on his athleticism.

CP3 learnt that he's not going to carry a team on his own, which is why he 'defers' so much during the regular season. He NEEDS those guys to be ready to step up.

Dresta
04-11-2014, 08:00 AM
They'd be better for sure. Chris Paul before he tore his Meniscus was putting up prime Magic Johnson numbers. He was basically robbed of the MVP in 08 by Kobe Bryant. The guy led his team to 56 wins averaging 21.1ppg 11.6apg 2.7spg (both seasons highs between all players) an absurd 2.6topg to the 11.6apg and 21.1ppg he was averaging while basically leading the team in defensive win shares and being their best defender as a POINT GUARD. Kobe was given an career MVP that he had no business receiving over Chris Paul who was putting up Magic Johnson prime numbers while being a better defensive player than Magic.
This.

OldSchoolBBall
04-11-2014, 01:17 PM
They win it all imo. He was that good. As good as or basically equal to peak Wade imo.

riseagainst
04-11-2014, 01:21 PM
They'd be better for sure. Chris Paul before he tore his Meniscus was putting up prime Magic Johnson numbers. He was basically robbed of the MVP in 08 by Kobe Bryant. The guy led his team to 56 wins averaging 21.1ppg 11.6apg 2.7spg (both seasons highs between all players) an absurd 2.6topg to the 11.6apg and 21.1ppg he was averaging while basically leading the team in defensive win shares and being their best defender as a POINT GUARD. Kobe was given an career MVP that he had no business receiving over Chris Paul who was putting up Magic Johnson prime numbers while being a better defensive player than Magic.


can't post anything objective without agendas.
:roll: :roll:

game3524
04-11-2014, 03:14 PM
can't post anything objective without agendas.
:roll: :roll:

That is ISH for you.:oldlol:

Anyone whom thinks CP3 was "robbed" in 2008 is full of shit. Kobe lead his team to the best record in the toughest conference of all-time. And the Lakers had plenty of injuries that year as well, the only consistent player they had that year was Bryant. And the notion that Kobe won because he hadn't won before is silly. If he had won in 2006, he still would have won in 2008.

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-11-2014, 03:15 PM
Theyd be favorites

russwest0
04-11-2014, 03:44 PM
He'd average 20/20 in the regular season and then Westbrook would make him his bitch in the playoffs :oldlol:

Darius
04-11-2014, 04:09 PM
He'd average 20/20 in the regular season and then Westbrook would make him his bitch in the playoffs :oldlol:

Except Prime CP3 was quicker than Westbrook but actually had a brain and court vision.

russwest0
04-11-2014, 04:13 PM
Except Prime CP3 was quicker than Westbrook but actually had a brain and court vision.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And yeah, how did that brain help him while his team lost by 50 points in an elimination game?

LoneyROY7
04-11-2014, 04:49 PM
The only real difference with Paul's game now and how it was back in 2008 was his explosion and the ability to consistently get into the paint.

Chris can still get to the rim today, he just doesn't do it quite as effectively and as often as he could back then. Other than that, his game is virtually identical.

Honestly, it may have been beneficial long-term that Clippers have current Chris as opposed to his '08 form, because it has allowed Blake to become more of the focal point offensively and thus grow into the superstar he is.

joeyjoejoe
04-11-2014, 04:57 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And yeah, how did that brain help him while his team lost by 50 points in an elimination game?

Sorry did you say 4/20