Replace Wade/Kobe and Duncan/Garnett

[Ronaldinho]

How many chips each one get? (Injuries, ego and BS aside...)

Garnett (Spurs)/Duncan (Minny/Celtics) 97 to 2013
Kobe (Heat)/Wade (Lakers) 03 to 2013

[navy]

Hmm Wade would have 1-2 rings with the Lakers.
Garnett would have 1-2 rings.

Hard to switch players whose teams were built around them.

[aj1987]

Hmm Wade would have 1-2 rings with the Lakers.
Garnett would have 1-2 rings.

Hard to switch players whose teams were built around them.
Depends upon which version of Wade is playing with Shaq. If it's 2nd year Wade with Shaq, they're still either 3peating or winning 2 at the least. Will most likely win in '05 and '06 as well. '03 and '04 are his injury years ('07 and '08). There's literally no team in the league that can stop '09 Wade and '05 Shaq.

I'm assuming that Shaq doesn't leave the Lakers, btw.

If Shaq leaves, 2-3 rings. If not, 4-5.

[Ronaldinho]

Depends upon which version of Wade is playing with Shaq. If it's 2nd year Wade with Shaq, they're still either 3peating or winning 2 at the least. Will most likely win in '05 and '06 as well. '03 and '04 are his injury years ('07 and '08). There's literally no team in the league that can stop '09 Wade and '05 Shaq.

I'm assuming that Shaq doesn't leave the Lakers, btw.

If Shaq leaves, 2-3 rings. If not, 4-5.
That's now how it works. Put Wade on the Lakers with their roster from 03 to 13 without Kobe, of course. The same way Duncan Garnett.

I think Wade probably win in 09, and in 11 he has a good team, but i dont think he would win a Heat with Kobe/Lebron/Bosh.

I think Kobe definitely win in 06, 12, 13 (Injuries aside). And has chances in 05, 07, and maybe 08.

I think Garnett would have problmes in 99, but 03, 05, 07 he wins it too. Duncan wins in 08, maybe 10.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

KG wins at least 4
Wade wins 1

[Ronaldinho]

KG wins at least 4
Wade wins 1
Which years KG and Wade win? It's a little bit hard to imagine Spurs without Duncan, but KG was a beast.

And Kobe on Heat and Duncan with Minny and Celtics?

[aj1987]

That's now how it works. Put Wade on the Lakers with their roster from 03 to 13 without Kobe, of course. The same way Duncan Garnett.

I think Wade probably win in 09, and in 11 he has a good team, but i dont think he would win a Heat with Kobe/Lebron/Bosh.
Most likely win in '09 and '10. Not sure about '11. Although Wade was healthy, the Lakers were exhausted that season.


I think Kobe definitely win in 06, 12, 13 (Injuries aside). And has chances in 05, 07, and maybe 08.
'07 and '08? Absolutely not. Shaq was injured in '07 and that '08 Heat team sucked ass.

'05 is a possibility, but he'd run into the Spurs in the Finals and he wouldn't have prime Shaq. '06 entirely depends on how he decides to play. If he's attacking, he'd definitely win. If he starts chucking up stupid shots, absolutely not. '13? Not sure about that as well. Kobe was injured. Doubt LeBron wins without his 2nd best player. '12? Definitely. Not sure how Kobe would deal with playing with LeBron though. Both of them need the ball in their hands a lot.

[Dresta]

That's now how it works. Put Wade on the Lakers with their roster from 03 to 13 without Kobe, of course. The same way Duncan Garnett.

I think Wade probably win in 09, and in 11 he has a good team, but i dont think he would win a Heat with Kobe/Lebron/Bosh.

I think Kobe definitely win in 06, 12, 13 (Injuries aside). And has chances in 05, 07, and maybe 08.

I think Garnett would have problmes in 99, but 03, 05, 07 he wins it too. Duncan wins in 08, maybe 10.
Except Shaq wouldn't have left LA if Wade was there instead of Kobe. Wade wasn't the egomaniac Kobe was and realised he was lucky to play with Shaq and went the extra mile (in Miami) to keep the guy happy and motivated.

So your comparison doesn't make any sense: if you switch them in 03, Shaq doesn't leave because he left to get away from Kobe.

[Ronaldinho]

Except Shaq wouldn't have left LA if Wade was there instead of Kobe. Wade wasn't the egomaniac Kobe was and realised he was lucky to play with Shaq and went the extra mile (in Miami) to keep the guy happy and motivated.

So your comparison doesn't make any sense: if you switch them in 03, Shaq doesn't leave because he left to get away from Kobe.

I said in the first post, injuries, ego and BS aside.


How many chips each one get? (Injuries, ego and BS aside...)

Garnett (Spurs)/Duncan (Minny/Celtics) 97 to 2013
Kobe (Heat)/Wade (Lakers) 03 to 2013

How many chips Wade get from 03 to 13, and how many chips Kobe gets from 03 to 2013 in the Heat, injuries aside, same roster.

The same way, how many chips Duncan gets with Minny/Celtics and Garnett Spurs.

[T_L_P]

That's now how it works. Put Wade on the Lakers with their roster from 03 to 13 without Kobe, of course. The same way Duncan Garnett.

I think Wade probably win in 09, and in 11 he has a good team, but i dont think he would win a Heat with Kobe/Lebron/Bosh.

I think Kobe definitely win in 06, 12, 13 (Injuries aside). And has chances in 05, 07, and maybe 08.

I think Garnett would have problmes in 99, but 03, 05, 07 he wins it too. Duncan wins in 08, maybe 10.

:no:

[Ronaldinho]

:no:
I know Duncan was a beast in 03, but Garnett was on his prime/peak too. He has a chance, at least.

[eklip]

I think Garnett could have won 1 or 2. 2007 and maybe 2005. Duncan was the better go-to scorer and I prefer Duncan's defense (shot blocking/rim protection).

[T_L_P]

I know Duncan was a beast in 03, but Garnett was on his prime/peak too. He has a chance, at least.

Duncan commanded the entire offense from the low-post. Unless Garnett could do that (which I don't think he could), they'd have no chance of winning.

[moe94]

Wait, people think Wade, who won with 06 Shaq, would only get a couple titles with peak Shaq? Damn.

[PsychoBe]

Wait, people think Wade, who won with 06 Shaq, would only get a couple titles with peak Shaq? Damn.

can wade average over 30 points vs the spurs in the 01' playoffs and the 02' kings who had a superior record? kobe was a killer in the wcf and i'm not convinced wade could handle that level of competition considering how he's not quite the shooter kobe was or defender.

[buddha]

Wade 0, Kobe 7 (if we're including his previous chips)

KG 1, Duncan 3

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe

05, 06, 11,12,13 guranteed

[moe94]

Kobe stans

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/michael-bolton-office-space.gif

[Ronaldinho]

Wait, people think Wade, who won with 06 Shaq, would only get a couple titles with peak Shaq? Damn.
I dont know if you know this, but you have to read the first post of every topic.


How many chips each one get? (Injuries, ego and BS aside...)

Garnett (Spurs)/Duncan (Minny/Celtics) 97 to 2013
Kobe (Heat)/Wade (Lakers) 03 to 2013

From 03 to 13, how many chips Wade get with the Lakers? Kobe with the Heat?

From 07 to 2013, how many chips Garnett get with the Spurs, and Duncan with Celtics/Minny?

[moe94]

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3600000/AD-Animated-gif-arrested-development-3695378-275-155.gif

my bad

[secund2nun]

Wade wins even more rings because he was a better player, more clutch, and a better teammate. They win the 04 finals with Wade because he wouldn't take that many shots away from Shaq. Also he would have not drove Shaq away so they may have won a few more rings on top of that. Also after Shaq more stars will want to play with Wade in LA than Kobe in LA as well. Wade is also more team oriented and won't take a gigantic Kobe contract that kills the cap room.

As for Kobe on Miami they win zero rings. They wouldn't have won in 06 with Kobe (Kobe could never have a NBA finals even miles close to Wade's 06 series, even if he got the same ref aided treatment Wade got) not to mention Lebron would have never joined Miami if Kobe was there instead of Wade. No one wants to play for Kobe.

With Kobe in Miami he would probably demand Shaq gets traded so Shaq would then get traded to LA

As for Duncan/KG...I don't know. I wish I could see the alternate reality universe where this happened and see what the results were.