okc thunder playoffs offense fail watch

[swagga]

Just bump this thread when the heavy iso OKC offense will collapse in the playoffs. It works in the regular season/statpadding for durant/westbrook but you're asking for trouble with it in the PO.

You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

[Smook A.]

Just bump this thread when the heavy iso OKC offense will collapse in the playoffs. It works in the regular season/statpadding for durant/westbrook but you're asking for trouble with it in the PO.

You know it, I know it everybody knows it.
No you don't.

[swagga]

No you don't.

Houston fans shoudn't be upset because their team si kindof irrelevant so why u mad bro?

[Smook A.]

Houston fans shoudn't be upset because their team si kindof irrelevant so why u mad bro?
:biggums: What the ****.

Why are you bringing that into this thread. Me being a Houston Rockets fan has nothing to do with what I said... And fix your english man. Take a typing class. You're lucky I even understood what your retarded ass said. Oh and don't ever say "you mad bro". Makes you look like an even bigger retard

[rmt]

Just bump this thread when the heavy iso OKC offense will collapse in the playoffs. It works in the regular season/statpadding for durant/westbrook but you're asking for trouble with it in the PO.

You know it, I know it, everybody knows it.

That's what I thought about OKC's heavy iso offense when they met up with SAS in the '12 playoffs and then they morphed into this passing team in game 3. It was as if they watched SAS the first 2 games (and the 20 leading up to it) and decided, "Why can't we do that?" That was the beginning of the end - that high quality shooting together with passing?

[swagga]

:biggums: What the ****.

Why are you bringing that into this thread. Me being a Houston Rockets fan has nothing to do with what I said... And fix your english man. Take a typing class. You're lucky I even understood what your retarded ass said. Oh and don't ever say "you mad bro". Makes you look like an even bigger retard

you seem upset. :lol

[All Net]

Swagga please remove your avatar

Not something people want to see.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

:biggums: What the ****.

Why are you bringing that into this thread. Me being a Houston Rockets fan has nothing to do with what I said... And fix your english man. Take a typing class. You're lucky I even understood what your retarded ass said. Oh and don't ever say "you mad bro". Makes you look like an even bigger retard
dis nikkel appears to be kinda mad because the Rockets are irrelevant and Harden gave up 51 to Brewer:roll: :roll:

[salwan]

lamb will brick shot after shot. just wait.

[swagga]

Swagga please remove your avatar

Not something people want to see.

In a basketball sense? On this forum?

[swagga]

That's what I thought about OKC's heavy iso offense when they met up with SAS in the '12 playoffs and then they morphed into this passing team in game 3. It was as if they watched SAS the first 2 games (and the 20 leading up to it) and decided, "Why can't we do that?" That was the beginning of the end - that high quality shooting together with passing?

you do remember that the 12 team's perimeter defense and bench bigs were .. shall we put it... subpar. Right? Red rocket, gary neal, george hill, etc. Now you have danny green and kwahi plus a better splitter plus a young patty mills. You can also compare the defensive ratings and rankings for 12 and 13/14 spurs teams and you'll see a huge difference.

I'm saying this because in 12 spurs lacked a good perimeter stopping defense which was easily beatable with 2-3 quick passes. Don't forget that they miss harden who despite all his bad traits is a decent playmaker when he puts his mind to it..... so we have 2 very distinct situations here.

[All Net]

In a basketball sense? On this forum?

Having an avatar with rape in the picture isn't acceptable.

[imdaman99]

you do remember that the 12 team's perimeter defense and bench bigs were .. shall we put it... subpar. Right? Red rocket, gary neal, george hill, etc. Now you have danny green and kwahi plus a better splitter plus a young patty mills. You can also compare the defensive ratings and rankings for 12 and 13/14 spurs teams and you'll see a huge difference.

I'm saying this because in 12 spurs lacked a good perimeter stopping defense which was easily beatable with 2-3 quick passes. Don't forget that they miss harden who despite all his bad traits is a decent playmaker when he puts his mind to it..... so we have 2 very distinct situations here.
The only team capable of neutralizing the OKC offense are the Miami Heat role players. While Kawhi has gotten better and they have done really well on Durant now, they have lost their ability to cover Westbrook. Have you watched the games between OKC and Spurs this year? Westbrook and Reggie Jackson have torched them. While you can't depend on a role player (Jackson), Westbrook will absolutely do his thing if they do meet.

[swagga]

The only team capable of neutralizing the OKC offense are the Miami Heat role players. While Kawhi has gotten better and they have done really well on Durant now, they have lost their ability to cover Westbrook. Have you watched the games between OKC and Spurs this year? Westbrook and Reggie Jackson have torched them. While you can't depend on a role player (Jackson), Westbrook will absolutely do his thing if they do meet.

with the same judgement you could reason that in 12 spurs went 4-0 on okc.

I bet you coach pop would love nothing more than to let westbrook think he must try to "do his thing". team D >>> a single great cover.

If I were a SAS i would worry more about refs than anything else in the west.

[swagga]

Having an avatar with rape in the picture isn't acceptable.

why are we americans so touchy? in europe's big cities you can (very) probably walk with a tshirt of that picture and nobody would ever say a thing. You even have courts in the UK and US trying to change the legal meaning of the word due to changes given by "surging difficulties due to advances in social networking technology".
Anyways, I hope I didn't cause grief here.

[All Net]

why are we americans so touchy? in europe's big cities you can (very) probably walk with a tshirt of that picture and nobody would ever say a thing. You even have courts in the UK and US trying to change the legal meaning of the word due to changes given by "surging difficulties due to advances in social networking technology".
Anyways, I hope I didn't cause grief here.
Doesn’t matter if it’s American or if you are from anywhere. It’s not something that you want to see and after having knowing somebody who was raped it’s not something I would want anybody to go through so even if It’s tongue in cheek it’s not something you want to see used in a different way no matter what.

Thank you for taking it down though, other people wouldn’t just to be difficult so for that I thank you.

[swagga]

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[Xover]

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[imdaman99]

no problem man, I love this site :applause:

okc fan where you at son? quit hiding under a rock an get in here to prop your boy kdbeta and chuckbrook.
Agenda exposed. Another branstan to ignore :facepalm

Keep in mind Branstans, your boy was a choking guy who couldn't win it all either 2 years ago.

Durant and Westbrook are how old? Stay insecure :lol

[swagga]

Agenda exposed. Another branstan to ignore :facepalm

Keep in mind Branstans, your boy was a choking guy who couldn't win it all either 2 years ago.

Durant and Westbrook are how old? Stay insecure :lol

I actually like KD's game alot but I think he is faker than most and is TOOOO ref dependent to be the greatest player in the game. Also his play making is tremendously overrated by using apg without taking into account what type of assists are those and how much they help/hurt the team... yes, overdependence on an assist type(e.g. pnr pass to roller) will hurt a team in the PO (suns, jazz,etc) when that pass is taken away.

Lebron is a narcissist too, actually 99% of these nigggas are (kobe, wade, howard, cp3, griffin, rose,durant, westchimp, ..etc, too) , lebron just not pretending. That's why you see people older than 12 disliking obvious fakes like rose, durant or howard (before 12, now :lol ).

[KG215]

OP, you make some great points. As we've seen the last three years OKC has really struggled to to advance in the playoffs.

[AnaheimLakers24]

op likes 7 yea old boys with tight clothing. go kill yourself

[swagga]

op likes 7 yea old boys with tight clothing. go kill yourself

since you are in that category, why can't we be friends? why can't we be friends? :lol

[swagga]

OP, you make some great points. As we've seen the last three years OKC has really struggled to to advance in the playoffs.

they should really run some plays for KD or at least some horns->pnr with him and westbrook or ibaka. Right now if they run into a decent defense and the whistles won't be as friendly as they normally are they could get in trouble.
Also, why not curl KD a la ray allen with the celtics? These are easy things, it's not like we're talking about the triangle or screen the screener pass up top and feed the post (SA does this alot, killer play).

[LoneyROY7]

I support this thread's premise. :applause:

[Thunderstruck]

lamb will brick shot after shot. just wait.
Lamb won't be playing much if at all. You haven't been paying attention much have you?

[Thunderstruck]

no problem man, I love this site :applause:

okc fan where you at son? quit hiding under a rock an get in here to prop your boy kdbeta and chuckbrook.
Their offense isn't "iso heavy" you're clueless. They primarily play pick and roll offense. Just because they have the talent to play iso ball when they need to doesn't mean they are an isolation team. Besides, they made the finals two years ago with the same style. Don't see any actual sense in your post besides just hating on a team.

[zoom17]

Houston fans shoudn't be upset because their team si kindof irrelevant so why u mad bro?

:oldlol:

[navy]

They're offense isn't "iso heavy" you're clueless. They primarily play pick and roll offense. Just because they have the talent to play iso ball when they need to doesn't mean they are an isolation team. Besides, they made the finals two years ago with the same style. Don't see any actual sense in your post besides just hating on a team.
Their iso heavy offense failed them in the Finals though. Probably because Harden was so terrible, they only had two scorers.

Let's be honest though. At the end of the day Durant and Westbrook is enough to win no matter what Scott Brooks does. They just have to perform.

[swagga]

Their offense isn't "iso heavy" you're clueless. They primarily play pick and roll offense. Just because they have the talent to play iso ball when they need to doesn't mean they are an isolation team. Besides, they made the finals two years ago with the same style. Don't see any actual sense in your post besides just hating on a team.

you see, when you say PNR heavy offense you get a very nice regular season set, you can even get high APG for pretty ungifted passers BUT you do not get a reliable offense because your assists are in majority from a singule type of play. If the defense counters that play the offense is at a signifiant disadvantage because it loses continuity.

Run and gun suns, 90s Jazz, OKC, they all have in common 2 things: tremendous talent and an overdependence on PNR/PNP, and if this proves something it is that even if you have awesome talent you can't play a HS offense @NBA level because in the PO/WCF/Finals you're not playing scrubs nor scrub teams, you are playing series were people plan for your offense, and when people do that they take away the easy plays and force you to beat them with your weaknesses not your strengths, not your common plays, such as basic PNR/PNP..... A horns->screen->PNR or triangle system is a totally different thing- if it is run, since it has excellent flexibility and it has none of the overdependency of a couple of passes such as the classic PNR/PNP.

and @having talent to play ISO ball ... you want to play ISO ball against miami?? or the clippers?? Remember 2011? Miami was by all means stacked with a stronger bosh and a healthy wade and they couldn't get the job done because they played what? ISOs and PNR. The fact that they paraded at the FT line (OKC does take this to uncomfortable levels:lol ) and that they had tremendous talent and their ferocious defense HID their real problem..until they needed a real offense in the half court. They went through an old celtic team that was ravaged by injuries, an inept offense in chicago and when they faced a real team they got their shit pushed in. If miami played that series again, but with their 2013 offense they would be destroying dallas.

Look at 2012 for the same story, now played by okc, who went through: dallas that lost their system by not resigning chandler, a collapsing injured laker team and an inept perimeter defense in SA(plus OKC getting hot) who couldn't stop OKC's simple plays because they lacked the personnel. Bad matchup for SA even if they swept the reg season series(which means jack shit tbh). In the finals they got worked losing by 4, by 6, by 6 and by 15, progressively being more exposed as adjustments took away the bread and butter plays.

If you still think ISO ball is the way to go I'm sorry son but you need to up your game.

[LoneyROY7]

OP knows what he's talking about. :applause:

OKC is far too reliant on Durant and Westbrook taking shot after shot after shot.