Who Would Win: Flash or Goku

[Railgun]

We settling the debate right here, jayda.

Tally
Goku:

Flash:


Note: ALL CANON MATERIAL IS USABLE.
http://i.imgur.com/KRzlo1j.jpg

[ForeverHeat]

Only superhero that can beat Goku is Superman. So Goku.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/249/6/2/goku___good_bye_my_son_by_evil_black_sparx_77-d5dqybq.gif

[Railgun]

Only superhero that can beat Goku is Superman. So Goku.

http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2012/249/6/2/goku___good_bye_my_son_by_evil_black_sparx_77-d5dqybq.gif
Flash kills Goku in less than a second.

[Railgun]

Should have put your argument in the OP Jameer. You made a reasonable case in the BTE a while back.
I know. I'll edit.

[EnoughSaid]

All incarnations of the Flash can move, think, and react at light speeds as well as having superhuman endurance that allows them to run incredible distances. Some, notably later versions, can vibrate so fast that they can pass through walls in a process called quantum tunneling, travel through time and can also lend and borrow speed. Furthermore, all members have an invisible aura around their bodies that prevents themselves and their clothes from being affected by air friction as they move at high speed. Speedsters can heal more rapidly than the average human.

Even Goku can't touch Flash.

[Railgun]

I know Misaka beat both of them, I know.

http://data1.whicdn.com/images/82871419/large.gif
:applause:

[Random_Guy]

Kate upton can beat both of then with those ginormous tits of hers

[Railgun]

Jameer, post that one comic scan of Flash explaining how fast he is. I can't find it.
the attosecond one?

[Railgun]

http://i.imgur.com/KRzlo1j.jpg

[Draz]

Goku wins because he can teleport and shit

[Railgun]

flash moves in attoseconds

goku moves in yoctoseconds

now contest
Flash's speed is unlimited. :confusedshrug:

[Railgun]

flash cant fly, goku teleports to another planet


and blows up earth, flash dead

no contest
Flash kills Goku before the thought processes through his thick skull.

[EnoughSaid]

flash cant fly, goku teleports to another planet


and blows up earth, flash dead

no contest

Flash goes back in time and kills Goku while he's asleep.

[Clyde]

flash cant fly, goku teleports to another planet


and blows up earth, flash dead

no contest

Flash travles through time using his treadmill. Kills goku before he becomes anything special.

Done

[Clyde]

Or flash goes ahead in time to where goku has already died. Either way time travel wins.

[Railgun]

can flash time travel serious question?

must be a boring comic book... any time he is in trouble, he just travels back in time and fixes it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_treadmill

[Railgun]

i didnt know how powerful flash was till jameer told me about him


if everything said about him is true, he should be unstoppable?
what are his weaknesses if any?
Durability.

[Clyde]

i didnt know how powerful flash was till jameer told me about him


if everything said about him is true, he should be unstoppable?
what are his weaknesses if any?

he's mortal.

and not extremely durable. though he does have a healing factor due to his high metabolism.

[ForeverHeat]

Flash kills Goku before the thought processes through his thick skull.

Goku has survived a demonic, insane, possibly homosexual, merciless super villain who can blow up a planet with one finger.

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/170/7/d/frieza_final_bout_update_by_kingvegito-d540koo.jpg

He matched a intellectual killing machine who was created for the sole purpose of defeating Goku. A being that was optimally PERFECT.

http://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/super-perfect-cell-returns-23972.jpg

He also beat Buu. Nuff said.

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407144005/dragonball/images/d/df/SuperBuuB3.jpg

Goku has done more than Flash and has a better resume. He also has Flash beat when it comes to taking damage, the guy can overcome a worse beating than John Cena in a WWE main event.

[Railgun]

bull
cool beans. Flash can kill Goku before Goku can even think about it.

[Railgun]

Top ten most powerful superheroes (http://www.thetoptens.com/most-powerful-superheroes/)

Goku comes out at #1 on this list, while Flash doesn't even place. Surprised to see Hulk ranked higher than Silver Surfer.

Top 25 most powerful suerheroes of all-time (http://list25.com/the-25-most-powerful-superheroes-of-all-time/2/)

Flash checks in at #9 while Goku comes in at #2.Thor takes the top spot.

Top ten most powerful superheroes (http://www.clicktop10.com/2013/08/top-10-most-powerful-superheroes/)

Flash doesn't place at all on this one, but Goku comes in at #2, again losing out to Thor.

Most powerful superheroes of all time (http://fiz-x.com/most-powerful-superheroes-of-all-time/)

Another list with Flash at #9 and Goku at #2, with Thor once again taking the top spot.

Ten most powerful superheroes (http://www.stepbystep.com/10-powerful-superheroes-115188/)

Flash comes in at #4, with Goku AGAIN at #2, losing out to Thor.
Goku is very overrated. Wait scratch that. It's more like the extent of Flash's powers are unknown.

[Clyde]

Top ten most powerful superheroes (http://www.thetoptens.com/most-powerful-superheroes/)

Goku comes out at #1 on this list, while Flash doesn't even place. Surprised to see Hulk ranked higher than Silver Surfer.

Top 25 most powerful suerheroes of all-time (http://list25.com/the-25-most-powerful-superheroes-of-all-time/2/)

Flash checks in at #9 while Goku comes in at #2.Thor takes the top spot.

Top ten most powerful superheroes (http://www.clicktop10.com/2013/08/top-10-most-powerful-superheroes/)

Flash doesn't place at all on this one, but Goku comes in at #2, again losing out to Thor.

Most powerful superheroes of all time (http://fiz-x.com/most-powerful-superheroes-of-all-time/)

Another list with Flash at #9 and Goku at #2, with Thor once again taking the top spot.

Ten most powerful superheroes (http://www.stepbystep.com/10-powerful-superheroes-115188/)

Flash comes in at #4, with Goku AGAIN at #2, losing out to Thor.

horrible list, do you have any idea how many uber powerful characters there are in comics

[Clyde]

quick copy and paste of what the flash can do

Speed Force Conduit: Speed Force is a vaguely defined extra-dimensional energy force from which most superspeed-powered heroes draw their powers. The Speed Force serves as the ultimate measure of velocity in the DCU. They are often referred to in terms of barriers: Sound barrier, Light barrier, Time Barrier, Dimensional Barrier, and finally the Speed Force Barrier. While all speedsters are powered by the force, West mainlines the power from the force itself and cannot be cut off from the source, unlike the others. Wally is the fastest of all the Flashes and the fastest man that ever lived. He is arguably the fastest being that has ever existed.[45] He is currently fast enough to easily break all the barriers and even enter the Speed Force. Wally has, on several occasions, traveled much faster than light and been pulled into and exited the Speed Force by his own volition. The Flash is considered to be one of the most formidable and powerful meta-humans on the planet.

Decelerated Aging: Along with every speedster that draws from the speed force, the loved ones of the speedsters will gain eternal youth like Jay's wife and Barry's wife ages have shown.

Constructs: Wally discovered if he concentrated, the Speed Force could be used to create solid constructs which he used to compose his costume. The first time he used this ability was to create a solid armor enabling him to run despite having broken legs. Later examples included sealing up the openings of his costume against disease, creating pockets for holding things, etc. His costume itself is a construct molded from the Speed Force. At times he'll create walls of pressurized debris to surround an area.

Sharing the Force: "Lending" velocity to objects or people already in motion. Since his interaction with the Speed Force, he may also lend his speed and angular momentum to another object or person. This may allow others to run alongside with the Flash. His range of powers seems to have been increased significantly and he is now the fastest Flash to have ever lived. If he shares the Speed Force with another meta with super-speed capabilities such as Superman, that metahuman can now greatly exceed the speed of light but does not become aware of the Speed Dimension. He can also impart molecular energy to a target to increase molecular movement, as he did against the water being called Flow, boiling him into steam.

Steal Speed: He is able to "steal" speed and/or momentum from anyone or anything, including beings such as Superman or Inertia effectively turning them into living statues. Also can steal speed from bullets and other fast moving objects thrown at him or at others. This ability is so great, that he once stole speed from the entire planet, and its population, including the superhumanly fast beings such as Superman, Jay Garrick etc.

Speed Force Aura: The Flash's body is surrounded by what he calls his "speed force aura". This aura protects him and anyone who is running with him or carried by him, from the effects of using his speed. This includes friction and airborne particulate matter. It also protects him from injury from high speed impacts such as punches he delivers and receives from his opponents. With this aura he is able to absorb kinetic energy. He possesses a level of superhuman resistance to injury which at times does extend far past normal physical interactions, as received from normal combat. Wally can sync his aura with his children, giving him the ability to pull either of them to him with a thought.[46]

Superhuman Endurance: The Flash possesses vast superhuman endurance that is nearly inexhaustible. He was able to run non stop for over 10 days straight without tiring against Krakkl (Who was stealing the speed of his entire race and adding it to his own. A race where every single individual could achieve the speed of light.), through time and space across existence (Everywhere from the 4 dimension to the big bang was their track field.) at speeds so far beyond light and so unimaginable, he was constantly breaking through all the barriers and even brushed the true Speed Force itself directly.

Self Sustenance: He has shown that he can survive in harsh environments such as space without any hindrance and has shown that he can gain all the energy he needs from the Speed Force's infinite storage of energy.

Superhuman Speed: It appears that the Flash may run at any speed that he thinks is possible. Wally West is by far the fastest being on the planet, and is arguably the fastest being to exist. Theoretically, speeds greater than Mach 10, are dangerous to the people and to the environment. This speed would still be the equivalent to approximately 2 miles per second; allowing him to cross the United States in about 23 minutes,

[Railgun]

Well since it's pretty much unanimous that Flash would win...

[Railgun]

Title changed. Now Superman vs. Goku.
I don't know the extent of Supe's powers so.

[Clyde]

Title changed. Now Superman vs. Goku.
I don't know the extent of Supe's powers so.

unlimited.

most over powered character ever.

plus he has a plethora of confiscated weapons that do crazy shit.

ie: the phantom zone gun.

[Chris99]

And I thought DBZ characters were OP. Damn :lol

If Flash can do all that, then how the hell can you write a decent story? Or do his comics suck harder than his rogues gallery?

[Railgun]

And I thought DBZ characters were OP. Damn :lol

If Flash can do all that, then how the hell can you write a decent story? Or do his comics suck harder than his rogues gallery?
You nerf the hell out of him.

[Clyde]

And I thought DBZ characters were OP. Damn :lol

If Flash can do all that, then how the hell can you write a decent story? Or do his comics suck harder than his rogues gallery?

they suck pretty bad....

Though DC is revamping everything right now, putting a more modern spin on everything.

Mirror Master and Zoom (reverse flash) are cool.....Captain Cold, Trickster, Captain Boomerang and the Top or fairly lame.

His series is kind of bring.

I prefer his involvement in the JLA stories.

[Clyde]

Also which Flash is Goku fighting against? There are like 4 or 5 different flashes.

Good question.

Who's stronger barry allen or Wally west?

[Angel Face]

Flash won't beat Krillin, let alone Goku. DBZ has the most OP characters with unimaginable powers ever created. Those dudes destroy planets/cities/islands with 1 finger.

[Railgun]

Flash won't beat Krillin, let alone Goku. DBZ has the most OP characters with unimaginable powers ever created. Those dudes destroy planets/cities/islands with 1 finger.
Shut up. You have already been proven wrong.

[Angel Face]

Shut up. You have already been proven wrong.

You didn't even watch Dragon Ball. How would you know their powers.

[Railgun]

You didn't even watch Dragon Ball. How would you know their powers.
I've seen bits and pieces. Jayda even admitted that Goku would lose easily.

[Angel Face]

I've seen bits and pieces. Jayda even admitted that Goku would lose easily.

No wonder... :rolleyes:

[Chris99]

Goku has also been challenged way more than Flash (right?). Compare the villains Goku has beaten to Flash... nuff said

[Railgun]

Goku has also been challenged way more than Flash (right?). Compare the villains Goku has beaten to Flash... nuff said
Means jack shit. I'll post my whole argument in a second.

[Angel Face]

Means jack shit. I'll post my whole argument in a second.

For a guy who said "I've seen bits and pieces" of DBZ, you're in no position to argue. Watch all episodes and you'll understand what these guys are talking about. DBZ characters are so OP. You'll laugh watching most parts particularly battles because of how impossibly strong they are.

[Railgun]

For a guy who said "I've seen bits and pieces" of DBZ, you're in no position to argue. Watch all episodes and you'll understand what these guys are talking about. DBZ characters are so OP. You'll laugh watching most parts particularly battles because of how impossibly strong they are.
I'm not watching all the episode of a 300 episode anime because you're too dumb to realize that Flash would own Goku.

[Chris99]

Flash can't sense power levels. He would have no idea how strong Goku is and toy with him. Then Goku goes SSJ3 and Flash laughs, thinking he has hair growing powers or some shit. One Kamehameha and its over.:banana:

[Railgun]

Flash can't sense power levels. He would have no idea how strong Goku is and toy with him. Then Goku goes SSJ3 and Flash laughs, thinking he has hair growing powers or some shit. One Kamehameha and its over.:banana:
Goku can't touch Flash. Or hit him. He's too fast.

[Chris99]

Goku can't touch Flash. Or hit him. He's too fast.

Instant transmission.

[Railgun]

Instant transmission.
Goku has to focus to do that. Flash is rumored to be faster than instantaneous travel too:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/5/55190/2871527-flash_vs_teleportation.jpg

[Angel Face]

Gi > Jumpsuit, Goku wins in fashion too.

[Chris99]

Like I said, Flash wouldn't expect the instant transmission. Goku grabs him and leaves him in space :lol

[Railgun]

I like how no fan from Goku's side has presented an argument :oldlol:
typical from morons who like shitty dbz :roll:

[Angel Face]

Justice Leage struggled against German Military when they were sent back to WW2. Perfect Cell destroyed an army without breaking a sweat.

Perfect Cell vs Military (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGvusDIo4VY)

[Chris99]

I like how no fan from Goku's side has presented an argument :oldlol:
typical from morons who like shitty dbz :roll:

You have me on ignore bro?:biggums:

[Railgun]

You have me on ignore bro?:biggums:
I did. In the time it takes Goku to even process the thought of teleporting Flash has already killed him.

[Railgun]

so he can beat anyone ever, we get it!
Not necessarily.

[Chris99]

Who do you guys say Flash would kill him as soon as he sees him? He ain't Broly :confusedshrug:

Flash would toy with Goku and get overconfident. Goku would sense how strong he is and find a way to win.

[Railgun]

Who do you guys say Flash would kill him as soon as he sees him? He ain't Broly :confusedshrug:

Flash would toy with Goku and get overconfident. Goku would sense how strong he is and find a way to win.
We're saying bloodlusted Flash vs. bloodlusted Goku. There is no plausible way for Goku to even touch Flash.

[Railgun]

who beats him, i bet i can argue that flash beats whoever you say
TTGL, STTGL, anyone with God-like powers, etc. Maybe Thor but I'm not too brushed up on comics tbh

[Railgun]

And just so I can shit on you guys some more
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145371/2986991-9365844816-speco.jpg

http://puu.sh/86ff2.png

[Railgun]

http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg
This is so badass.

[Chris99]

We're saying bloodlusted Flash vs. bloodlusted Goku. There is no plausible way for Goku to even touch Flash.

Dude, if they have their actual personalities when they fight, Goku wins so thats why you say bloodlusted now :lol. There's too many factors to consider. Would they know who the other are before they meet? If they get prep time, Goku simply stays in the air blows up the planet.

[Railgun]

Dude, if they have their actual personalities when they fight, Goku wins so thats why you say bloodlusted now :lol. There's too many factors to consider. Would they know who the other are before they meet? If they get prep time, Goku simply stays in the air blows up the planet.
In almost any way, shape, or form Flash wins. Sorry bud. On to the next one. We should debate Superman vs. Goku.

[Clyde]

In almost any way, shape, or form Flash wins. Sorry bud. On to the next one. We should debate Superman vs. Goku.

Pre-crisis Superman wins hands down.

[Railgun]

flash beats superman right?
Yeah. At least in my opinion. Rose would know better.

[Railgun]

Pre-crisis Superman wins hands down.
I agree.

[Railgun]

Damn. How do you fight someone who moves so fast time is essentially at a stand-still for them? Goku would appear frozen to Flash and he could pummel him a trillion times over then vibrate through him exploding him.
Did you read this yet?
http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg
:lol
Flash is so OP.

[Clyde]

In the end Batman owns all

/thread

[Chris99]

Goku killing millions of people:rolleyes:

Dood said bloodlusted :confusedshrug:

[Clyde]

goku beats flash and superman at the same time. goku went super saiyan god. he fought against a god of destruction. flash's strongest power might send goku back a few inches, but once he uses that power he is all out of energy. flash's strength is just above human peak strength, goku's strength is god-level. no contest.

jameer is trolling. he doesnt even read comics.


/thread

In own the entire dragon ball series, along with one of the greatest comic collections you'd ever see.


Based on the information given Flash>Goku.

[Railgun]

goku beats flash and superman at the same time. goku went super saiyan god. he fought against a god of destruction. flash's strongest power might send goku back a few inches, but once he uses that power he is all out of energy. flash's strength is just above human peak strength, goku's strength is god-level. no contest.

jameer is trolling. he doesnt even read comics.


/thread
Not trolling. You're just mad :lol

[Railgun]

BB ur mad. You haven't presented a proper argument yet :lol

[Clyde]

Goku is constantly hurt or training, while the other guys fight and fight and fight.

The he comes back owns the bad guy, yells for a few episodes and gets hurt again.

It's one of the most overrated series ever.

There's honestly no difference between Freeza's "Power Level" and Perfect Cells Power Level.....it's all the same shit.

Blowing up mountains, teleporting, shooting fireballs, etc.

The same thing over and over and over and over and over again

[Chris99]

Random encounter: Flash wins.

Prep time: Goku wins.

[Railgun]

Random encounter: Flash wins.

Prep time: Goku wins.
How? How does he hit Flash?

[Railgun]

i have. you said it would take someone with god-like powers to beat flash. goku has god-like powers. one of his forms is called "super saiyan god' :lol
You know what I meant :lol
As in creating dimensions and galaxies and people and stuff like that.

[Clyde]

i have. you said it would take someone with god-like powers to beat flash. goku has god-like powers. one of his forms is called "super saiyan god' :lol


other than that. like i said, i've seen arguments like this hundreds of times.

they are hardly god like.

he strong he can teleport and shoot fire balls.

he cant create matter, not indestructible, not omnipotent, and in the end he is mortal

[Chris99]

How? How does he hit Flash?

Are they bloodlusted or not? If so, and they have prep time, Goku launches his strongest attack and teleports to another planet before it hits.

[Railgun]

Are they bloodlusted or not? If so, and they have prep time, Goku launches his strongest attack and teleports to another planet before it hits.
In the time it takes that to hit, Flash has already avoided it.
Also Shannon I think SS might have a chance but I don't know much about him.

[Railgun]

Hardly god like? Destroying planets with the snap of a finger is "hardly god like" nowadays.
God-like is muccccchhh stronger than that. Goku gets owned by TTGL :roll:

[Chris99]

In the time it takes that to hit, Flash has already avoided it.
Also Shannon I think SS might have a chance but I don't know much about him.

He can avoid a planet being destroyed? :facepalm

[Clyde]

Hardly god like? Destroying planets with the snap of a finger is "hardly god like" nowadays.

4 episodes for a spirit bomb.....lame

[Railgun]

He can avoid a planet being destroyed? :facepalm
Yes.

[Clyde]

this thread is going round and round and an outcome will never be agreed upon.

im out.

[Railgun]

how?
By moving off the planet.

[Chris99]

Yes.

How?:biggums:

Time travel?

[Railgun]

this thread is going round and round and an outcome will never be agreed upon.

im out.
It's just that Goku fans can't take that their boy would get annihilated. It's hilarious. We should just debate another battle.

[Chris99]

It's just that Goku fans can't take that their boy would get annihilated. It's hilarious. We should just debate another battle.

Actaully, I told you how Goku could win if they both have their ACTUAL personalities.

[Railgun]

Actaully, I told you how Goku could win if they both have their ACTUAL personalities.
No you didn't. You haven't even addressed the fact that Goku cannot hit Flash at all.

[Railgun]

lol now i know you're trolling :oldlol:


good game jameer
I'm legit not. I never troll about this kind of stuff. In fact I only really troll when it comes to the Lakers.

[Chris99]

No you didn't. You haven't even addressed the fact that Goku cannot hit Flash at all.

Tell me, since I'm not familiar with Flash that much (just going off your info), I said he would get overconfident wouldn't he? He wouldn't kill Goku as soon as he sees him. Goku may be stupid, but not when it comes to fighting.

He would find out that Flash can't fly and find a way to get him off the ground.

[Chris99]

Goku Teleports, nukes from orbit, game over. Goku beat a guy who was detroying the entire universe, so this isn't much of a contest.

:cheers:

[Railgun]

Magnax coming in for damage control :roll: Flash has won this battle.

[Railgun]

Tell me, since I'm not familiar with Flash that much (just going off your info), I said he would get overconfident wouldn't he? He wouldn't kill Goku as soon as he sees him. Goku may be stupid, but not when it comes to fighting.

He would find out that Flash can't fly and find a way to get him off the ground.
He wouldn't be that overconfident vs. someone as strong as Goku. Regardless Goku still can't hit him.

[Chris99]

He wouldn't be that overconfident vs. someone as strong as Goku. Regardless Goku still can't hit him.

Flash can sense energy now? Or do they have prep time? Goku stays in the air and blows shit up, then wishes everyone but him back with the Dragon balls.

[Railgun]

Any attack Goku throw Flash moves so fast he avoids it. :roll:

[Chris99]

Any attack Goku throw Flash moves so fast he avoids it. :roll:

How does Flash get off the planet?

[Doctor K]

Dr. Manhattan over Flash AND Goku

http://pics.livejournal.com/s0lveig/pic/0003ftq2/s320x240

[Railgun]

Still not convinced Flash is faster than Goku.
1-His teleport is instantaneous
2-He moved so fast people can't see him in dragonball. He's at the very minimum billions of time faster than that by the end of the show.
Also, Goku can just blow up the whole planet/solar system/whatever Flash cant dodge that.
Lol. Flash has unlimited speed. Let me help you:
http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg


And just so I can shit on you guys some more
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/145371/2986991-9365844816-speco.jpg

http://puu.sh/86ff2.png

[Railgun]

The Flash can fly too.

[Railgun]

He could also phase through the blast.

[Chris99]

The Flash can fly too.

GTFO

And phase through the blast? What's he gonna do when he's floating in space?:lol

Actually, I'm done. This is never gonna end.

[Railgun]

GTFO

And phase through the blast? What's he gonna do when he's floating in space?:lol

Actually, I'm done. This is never gonna end.
Flash can run in space.

[Railgun]

1-There is nothing faster than instantaneous. Its just stupid, unless you're saying Flash can travel time which makes the argument pointless.
2-Goku is still way stronger than Flash. Goku destroys a universe killer. Flash does nothing as impressive.
Flash CAN time travel lol
http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg

[DaSeba5]

The factor is how the fight starts. If Goku was Broly and blood thirsty, he would just blow up the planet in orbit. Flash isn't going to survive that. I think Goku is being criminally underrated here because someone here dislikes DBZ.

[Railgun]

I googled it, Flash can't fly.
Really, it's just as simple as Goku teleporting and nuking from orbit.
Yes he can.
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_(Wally_West)

[Chris99]

Flash can run in space.

:lebronamazed:

[DaSeba5]

So the Flash is the strongest character in all of fiction then.

[Railgun]

The factor is how the fight starts. If Goku was Broly and blood thirsty, he would just blow up the planet in orbit. Flash isn't going to survive that. I think Goku is being criminally underrated here because someone here dislikes DBZ.
Can he tank it? Hell no. Can he outrun it? Fvck yes.

[Railgun]

Going into the future because of extra mass gained=/= time travel.
Im talking about going backwards.
Your link about flying doesnt exist btw.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmic_treadmill

[DaSeba5]

Can he tank it? Hell no. Can he outrun it? Fvck yes.

He's going to sense it coming and escape in time? I highly doubt it.

[Railgun]

ISH is breaking the link. One sec.

[Railgun]

Look under powers:
http://goo.gl/WUuL4q

[Railgun]

He's going to sense it coming and escape in time? I highly doubt it.
His reaction time is so fast, so yeah.

[DaSeba5]

Goku takes on the God of Destruction toe to toe. Goku is being underrated here.

[Railgun]

Goku takes on the God of Destruction toe to toe. Goku is being underrated here.
So? He still can't hit Flash.

[DaSeba5]

So? He still can't hit Flash.

Explain to me how fast Goku is and compare it to the Flash. What makes him faster than Goku?

[Railgun]

Flash definitely has the potential to be one of the most powerful characters in the DC universe. The one thing stopping him is that he is pretty much still human. He's not bulletproof, he has been shot, he has been stabbed, he has been tripped, surprised, he slips on ice, he runs out of energy, his strength is only above human peak strength. He can probably beat 95% of the other dc characters if he's at his full potential and with bloodlust. But there are also characters who would just laugh off flash's strongest attacks.
Yep. They would laugh off an IMP. lol

[DaSeba5]

Flash definitely has the potential to be one of the most powerful characters in the DC universe. The one thing stopping him is that he is pretty much still human. He's not bulletproof, he has been shot, he has been stabbed, he has been tripped, surprised, he slips on ice, he runs out of energy, his strength is only above human peak strength. He can probably beat 95% of the other dc characters if he's at his full potential and with bloodlust. But there are also characters who would just laugh off flash's strongest attacks.

But he beats Goku who didn't die from being shot in the head as a kid in the very first episode of DB?

[Railgun]

Explain to me how fast Goku is and compare it to the Flash. What makes him faster than Goku?
Flash is as fast as he wants to be. There is no limit to his speed. He's outran Death itself. Goku has never shown the capability to be that fast.

[DaSeba5]

Flash is as fast as he wants to be. There is no limit to his speed. He's outran Death itself. Goku has never shown the capability to be that fast.

Can you elaborate please?

[Railgun]

In other words, he can't fly off planet to get away from a massive explosion that destroys the planet (something that someone millions to billions of times weaker than Goku could do) So hes ****ed.
Case closed.
How do you know? Why is Flash limited to being on a planet? I'm pretty sure off the problem arised Flash would just run off the Earth.

[Railgun]

To jayda and daseba:
http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg

[Railgun]

By being in a retarded comic book that makes very little sense
:lol
Like DBZ makes sense lol.
Madoka>>>Flash>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku

[DaSeba5]

To jayda and daseba:
http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg

That's really stupid.

[Doctor K]

How do you know? Why is Flash limited to being on a planet? I'm pretty sure off the problem arised Flash would just run off the Earth.
Thats like saying "I'm sure if player A had good teammates he would win a championship". The player needs to PROVE he can before we need to disprove he can.

Unicorns don't exist. "How do you know, prove they don't exist" :facepalm

[Railgun]

That's really stupid.
I didn't say Flash isn't massively OP.

[DaSeba5]

Like DBZ makes sense lol.
Madoka>>>Flash>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku

DBZ always made sense to me tbh. The story was pretty straight forward.

[Doctor K]

:lol
You're just grasping at straws now. Concede defeat. Flash is no match for Goku.

this

I dont read too many comic books so dont care about either character but arguments supporting goku here railgun really strugglin here

[Railgun]

:lol
You're just grasping at straws now. Concede defeat. Flash is no match for Goku.
He runs off Earth in the link I posted. Flash>>>Goku. I win.

[DaSeba5]

I didn't say Flash isn't massively OP.

But you have to keep in mind that there is only one Goku. There is a million of Flash comics with different writers. Some fan boy can make him massively OP as they want in their comic, but that doesn't mean he is that OP in other comics. I fail to see how somebody who can die from being shot or stabbed is better than a character who survived a mortal wound as a baby when he fell 1000 feet off a cliff and survived a bullet in the head with no problem as a 12 year old.

In fact almost every character in DB is laughably stronger than a normal human with no ki training.

[Railgun]

But you have to keep in mind that there is only one Goku. There is a million of Flash comics with different writers. Some fan boy can make him massively OP as they want in their comic, but that doesn't mean he is that OP in other comics. I fail to see how somebody who can die from being shot or stabbed is better than a character who survived a mortal wound as a baby when he fell 1000 feet off a cliff and survived a bullet in the head with no problem as a 12 year old.

In fact almost every character in DB is laughably stronger than a normal human with no ki training.
That's the thing. They HAVE to nerf him. Just like Superman has to be nerfed, or SS, or ANYONE. It's stupid to take his weakest points and use those as references.

[DaSeba5]

That's the thing. They HAVE to nerf him. Just like Superman has to be nerfed, or SS, or ANYONE. It's stupid to take his weakest points and use those as references.

But you are using his strongest points as references. Does he run from death and time travel all of the time?

[DaSeba5]

We're also not factoring that Goku has the Dragon Balls and if he dies, he still keeps his body in the afterlife and comes back.

[Railgun]

But you are using his strongest points as references. Does he run from death and time travel all of the time?
Duh. When your comparing LBJ vs. like Larry Bird or some shit do you bring up 2011 as a strong point? No.

[DaSeba5]

Duh. When your comparing LBJ vs. like Larry Bird or some shit do you bring up 2011 as a strong point? No.

But my point is that it can be some fanboy's version of the Flash who is extremely OP compared to only one Goku story. Does Flash do this all of the time? He runs fast all of the time we know that, but he does he always time travel and run from death? It really can't be used if that is the case.

I just saw him get stabbed. How does this guy get stabbed if he moves so fast and time travel to avoid it?

[Railgun]

But my point is that it can be some fanboy's version of the Flash who is extremely OP compared to only one Goku story. Does Flash do this all of the time? He runs fast all of the time we know that, but he does he always time travel and run from death? It really can't be used if that is the case.

I just saw him get stabbed. How does this guy get stabbed if he moves so fast and time travel to avoid it?
What? I'm using all canon-material. Why does that even matter?

[DaSeba5]

What? I'm using all canon-material. Why does that even matter?

We will never agree on this. Goku is on par with God in his universe. I think he is being underrated here.

We don't know how fast Goku is because he always fought somebody just as fast and they slow it down so the viewers can follow the action.

[Railgun]

We will never agree on this. Goku is on par with God in his universe. I think he is being underrated here.
Key word is his.

[DaSeba5]

Key word is his.

It depends on how the fight starts. If they stare at each other and know they are about to fight, maybe the Flash gets to him quickly. But if Flash charges and Goku puts energy around himself, Flash will get blown away. DBZ characters are surrounded by ki. Flash may be faster, but I don't think he can touch Goku. If Goku can't touch the Flash, then it seems more like a draw, but I fail to see how somebody who can die from mortal wounds would beat a person who has survived planet destroying energy blasts.

[Railgun]

It depends on how the fight starts. If they stare at each other and know they are about to fight, maybe the Flash gets to him quickly. But if Flash charges and Goku puts energy around himself, Flash will get blown away. DBZ characters are surrounded by ki. Flash may be faster, but I don't think he can touch Goku. If Goku can't touch the Flash, then it seems more like a draw, but I fail to see how somebody who can die from mortal wounds would beat a person who has survived planet destroying energy blasts.
Can Goku tank an Infinite Mass Punch? If so can he tank several before being able to react? Can he tank being phased through? The answer is no.

[DaSeba5]

Can Goku tank an Infinite Mass Punch? If so can he tank several before being able to react? Can he tank being phased through? The answer is no.

It's hard to say because something that looks slow in DBZ is actually happening at universal speed. It's slowed down so the viewer can see what's going on. So I don't think you can give a definite no.

[Railgun]

We should have a superhero march madness tourney where ISHers can vote on individual matchups so that we can put these most important debates to rest!
I've wanted something like this for a while. The problem is if people can accept their character losing. Like right now people are in denial.

[DaSeba5]

I've wanted something like this for a while. The problem is if people can accept their character losing. Like right now people are in denial.

It's not denial. Goku isn't even my favorite DB character. I just don't agree.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Flash is too weak to hurt Goku.

Goku's fast af also.

[eriX]

Goku takes on the God of Destruction toe to toe. Goku is being underrated here.

i think people are overrating the super saiyan god here... how many of you actually watched the movie... goku went toe to toe with him but was never going to defeat him. the god of destruction was shook that someone can even challenge him but in the end he would've won and defeated goku...

unless goku destroys earth, flash is probably going to win. And i love dbz

[iamgine]

Comic's speed feats has always been better than DBZs:

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e305/Daemaro/pc1bc4.jpg

[KingBeasley08]

Haven't read too many comic books about Flash or watched much DBZ but as of now, Jameer has made better points.


Flash wins

[Crimsonrain777]

wouldnt Goku die too if he decided to destroy earth? it's not like he can breathe in outer space.

also Flash' infinite mass punch hits with the collective force of a white dwarf star so he's more than capable of hurting Goku. whether that will
be enough. idk?

[ForeverHeat]

Jameer is so butthurt right now :lol . Its simple. Flash is essentially a very fast human. No powers that aid with survival whatsoever (such as surviving in space, taking large extremities of damage, etc.). Flash cannot survive in space. Goku can instant transmission himself to another planet and nuke Earth from there. Doesnt matter how fast Speedy Gonzalez can run if hes blown into a thousand pieces.

[Railgun]

Jameer is so butthurt right now :lol . Its simple. Flash is essentially a very fast human. No powers that aid with survival whatsoever (such as surviving in space, taking large extremities of damage, etc.). Flash cannot survive in space. Goku can instant transmission himself to another planet and nuke Earth from there. Doesnt matter how fast Speedy Gonzalez can run if hes blown into a thousand pieces.
Lol. Do I have to explain this to you? If Flash can outrun Death itself then anything Goku throws at him is child's play. Flash can survive in space dumbass.

[Crimsonrain777]

i think this fight is alot closer than alot of people give it credit. still going with Flash. Goku would have to destroy the planet to beat him plus i don't think Goku is nearly as fast as flash. also, Infinite Mass Punch is greater than any weapon in Goku's arsenal

[VIntageNOvel]

flash can be faster than goku (which actually still arguable), let juts say he is
but he cant hurt him,

kid goku (5 years old) already hunting dinosaur and bulletproof
pict:kid goku kicking back a rocket launcher
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124813/2520541-kid_goku_kicking_a_nuke2.jpg

frieza (530,000 power level) can blow entire planet with one finger,
and goku withstand ki blast from buu (1+ billion power level) you do the math,

its like human against fly

[Railgun]

flash can be faster than goku (which actually still arguable), let juts say he is
but he cant hurt him,

kid goku (5 years old) already hunting dinosaur and bulletproof
pict:kid goku kicking back a rocket launcher
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/124813/2520541-kid_goku_kicking_a_nuke2.jpg

frieza (530,000 power level) can blow entire planet with one finger,
and goku withstand ki blast from buu (1+ billion power level) you do the math,

its like human against fly
Goku would get killed b a IMP. Stop.

[KOLBCTEW]

Goku would get killed b a IMP. Stop.If we're using all available sources on Goku then no he wouldn't be. As far back as Dragon Ball; Master Roshi with a power level a little higher than 139 was able to blow up the moon. They're power levels would have to be in the trillions now.

[TheReal Kendall]

Someone posted a pic of Deathstroke impaling Flash with his sword so from that I would say that Goku has a strong chance of beating Flash.

Goku is x1000 times stronger and faster than Deathstroke.

The better fight would be Goku vs Superman. Flash can't even beat Superman or Batman or any of the higher level heroes.

At the end of the day Flash is just a very fast human.

Also you can't really say Flash is faster cause I've never seen Goku's speed measured.

Oh and you can't really have a discussion about the 2 when you know nothing about the other.

[Jameerthefear]

If we're using all available sources on Goku then no he wouldn't be. As far back as Dragon Ball; Master Roshi with a power level a little higher than 139 was able to blow up the moon. They're power levels would have to be in the trillions now.
Power levels in DBZ are bullshit. Goku has never tanked something with the power of an IMP.

[Jameerthefear]

Someone posted a pic of Deathstroke impaling Flash with his sword so from that I would say that Goku has a strong chance of beating Flash.

Goku is x1000 times stronger and faster than Deathstroke.

The better fight would be Goku vs Superman. Flash can't even beat Superman or Batman or any of the higher level heroes.

At the end of the day Flash is just a very fast human.

Also you can't really say Flash is faster cause I've never seen Goku's speed measured.

Oh and you can't really have a discussion about the 2 when you know nothing about the other.
Lol. Just stop. Not even going to address this.

[TheReal Kendall]

Dude you're just trolling for attention.

I highly doubt you've even read the Flash comics or even watched the cartoons.

You've already admitted to not watching DBZ, so how can you truly have a debate about who's stronger?

[Jameerthefear]

Dude you're just trolling for attention.

I highly doubt you've even read the Flash comics or even watched the cartoons.

You've already admitted to not watching DBZ, so how can you truly have a debate about who's stronger?
I've watched enough of DBZ to know Flash owns him. I do read comics too. Stop getting mad lol

[TheReal Kendall]

I've watched enough of DBZ to know Flash owns him. I do read comics too. Stop getting mad lol

Not mad just calling it how I see it. I was a big Flash fan as a kid and I loved Goku as a teen but Flash wouldn't own him.

Goku is on par with Superman.

[KOLBCTEW]

Power levels in DBZ are bullshit.
That's like saying the speed force in DC is Bull..
Goku has never tanked something with the power of an IMP.Through power scaling he's surpassed brushing off an atk of that level long ago.

[ForeverHeat]

Jameer I think DBZ is just too alpha to comprehend. You should just stick to what you know best.

http://i57.tinypic.com/oq93d1.jpg

[Micku]

Depends on the Flash, era, and writer. If they are going all out, assuming if we don't count end of Goku GT, then the Flash would probably win.

If I can recall correctly (correct me if I'm wrong) third Flash, Wally West, is the fastest flash. The only person that closest to him is Barry out of the four flash. He could break sound, light, time, dimensional, and speedforce. So, he could time travel to where Goku is a baby and do an infinite mass punch on him, and then it's over.

Goku could teleport instantly through dimensions tho, but the Flash at one event could move faster than instantaneous movement (yeah...). Goku at the end of GT might be a god, but his powers are unknown and GT might not be canon.

Before they introduced the speedforce, the Flash could only go to Mach 10 since that was as much as his body could handle. Then in the Marvel vs DC stats, they said that the Flash could move near light speed, but he could/have run faster. If the Flash would fight to his potential, he could break the pace-time/continuum. In the "Human Race" storyline, Flash was able to beat an intergalactic teleporter from the far side of the galaxy to Earth. Flash on paper should pwn a bunch of ppl, but he doesn't when it comes to practice.

Bottom line: It depends on the writers and on which Flash. If Flash knows nothing about Goku and just plays around with him, Goku would kill him with a finger. If Flash would use his full potential, Goku would die before he knows what hit him.

[Jameerthefear]

That's like saying the speed force in DC is Bull.. Through power scaling he's surpassed brushing off an atk of that level long ago.
Example? MANY MANY DBZ fans have stated that power levels were bullshit.

[Jameerthefear]

Depends on the Flash, era, and writer. If they are going all out, assuming if we don't count end of Goku GT, then the Flash would probably win.

If I can recall correctly (correct me if I'm wrong) third Flash, Wally West, is the fastest flash. The only person that closest to him is Barry out of the four flash. He could break sound, light, time, dimensional, and speedforce. So, he could time travel to where Goku is a baby and do an infinite mass punch on him, and then it's over.

Goku could teleport instantly through dimensions tho, but the Flash at one event could move faster than instantaneous movement (yeah...). Goku at the end of GT might be a god, but his powers are unknown and GT might not be canon.

Before they introduced the speedforce, the Flash could only go to Mach 10 since that was as much as his body could handle. Then in the Marvel vs DC stats, they said that the Flash could move near light speed, but he could/have run faster. If the Flash would fight to his potential, he could break the pace-time/continuum. In the "Human Race" storyline, Flash was able to beat an intergalactic teleporter from the far side of the galaxy to Earth. Flash on paper should pwn a bunch of ppl, but he doesn't when it comes to practice.

Bottom line: It depends on the writers and on which Flash. If Flash knows nothing about Goku and just plays around with him, Goku would kill him with a finger. If Flash would use his full potential, Goku would die before he knows what hit him.
So basically in an all out battle where Flash is trying he wins instantly? :applause:

[OhNoTimNoSho]

You guys dont understand how fast Flash is... hes so fast that its stupid as shit and the comic writers should stop smoking crack and making up this shit.


Flash can run the speed of light, and when he runs at the speed of light time slows down, so he can run at the speed of light again while already running at the speed of light. And then again and so on. So he can basically run at infinity speed.

He thinks at an attosecond speed or some bullshit. Meaning that by the time Goku even realises he has to fight someone the flash can already do whatever stupid bullshit he does. Goku will literally never be able to complete any action because the Flash can think a billion times faster than him.

He can vibrate his own molecules. How stupid is that? He can literally go through walls and shit by vibrating his molecules. He can vibrate his molecules go inside someone and then vibrate their molecules so they explode. Wtf would Goku do? Put up a barrier? He cant because the flash can do all this before a neuron fires insides he brain.

And then he does some infinite force punch or some shit and he can steal the energy out of things somehow and time travel. Shit is stupid. At least DBZ has limitations, in comics they just sit around coming up with more and more absurd ways they can overpower a dude.

[KOLBCTEW]

Example? MANY MANY DBZ fans have stated that power levels were bullshit.
Many of those fans don't know the real power levels as most fan sites tend to make them up which is why they're a various number of them. The official power levels are in the Daizenshuu.

[ForeverHeat]

There is pretty much nothing Flash can do to actually kill Goku. Goku has taken more damage than any character I have ever watching, in cartoon and anime. Dude has been destroyed so many times and has overcome so many impossible situations that I find it ludicrous that he would be brought down by someone whose power is as one dimensional as Flash.

Flash also has a record of losing numerous times, often in embarrassing fashion (being shot, one punch knockout, etc.). Any serious anime or comic book fan knows Goku is among the elite, and it is common consensus that him and Superman are the top 2 amongst the popular anime/comic book characters. Guys like Flash are just 3rd tier heroes. Comparing him to Goku just shows you have no real knowledge and are just attention whoring.

[KOLBCTEW]

Depends on the Flash, era, and writer. If they are going all out, assuming if we don't count end of Goku GT, then the Flash would probably win.

If I can recall correctly (correct me if I'm wrong) third Flash, Wally West, is the fastest flash. The only person that closest to him is Barry out of the four flash. He could break sound, light, time, dimensional, and speedforce. So, he could time travel to where Goku is a baby and do an infinite mass punch on him, and then it's over.

Goku could teleport instantly through dimensions tho, but the Flash at one event could move faster than instantaneous movement (yeah...). Goku at the end of GT might be a god, but his powers are unknown and GT might not be canon.

Before they introduced the speedforce, the Flash could only go to Mach 10 since that was as much as his body could handle. Then in the Marvel vs DC stats, they said that the Flash could move near light speed, but he could/have run faster. If the Flash would fight to his potential, he could break the pace-time/continuum. In the "Human Race" storyline, Flash was able to beat an intergalactic teleporter from the far side of the galaxy to Earth. Flash on paper should pwn a bunch of ppl, but he doesn't when it comes to practice.

Bottom line: It depends on the writers and on which Flash. If Flash knows nothing about Goku and just plays around with him, Goku would kill him with a finger. If Flash would use his full potential, Goku would die before he knows what hit him. Well if Flash is going to time travel then there's no way Goku can win but without that he loses. Though now that I think about it; in DBZ timelines diverge so going back in time would not kill that current Goku but an alternate version of Goku that died as a baby.

[Jameerthefear]

There is pretty much nothing Flash can do to actually kill Goku. Goku has taken more damage than any character I have ever watching, in cartoon and anime. Dude has been destroyed so many times and has overcome so many impossible situations that I find it ludicrous that he would be brought down by someone whose power is as one dimensional as Flash.

Flash also has a record of losing numerous times, often in embarrassing fashion (being shot, one punch knockout, etc.). Any serious anime or comic book fan knows Goku is among the elite, and it is common consensus that him and Superman are the top 2 amongst the popular anime/comic book characters. Guys like Flash are just 3rd tier heroes. Comparing him to Goku just shows you have no real knowledge and are just attention whoring.
Read the above two posts. I didn't even have to make my full argument. They ended this shit :lol

It's just like Goku vs. TTGL. Goku getting his shit pushed in in seconds.

[KOLBCTEW]

It's just like Goku vs. TTGL. Goku getting his shit pushed in in seconds.Goku beats him as well..

[ForeverHeat]

You guys are all looking at this from the wrong angle. All you Flash fanboys are just using powers we "hear" he has as proof to make the guy seem immortal. In theory he may have these powers but in practice we have seen this dude get tagged by guys way slower and weaker than Goku, so why you guys acting like Goku has no chance? I have never seen Flash dominate a fight. Every villain he fights always gets a few shots in, and a few shots is all Goku would need obliterate him.

[CelticBaller]

flash is just some character the writers created while tripping on acid

real life flash will get thrown at the sun

[Micku]

Example? MANY MANY DBZ fans have stated that power levels were bullshit.

Ha. Both are bullshit and have plotholes. DBZ power levels stop being relevant after Frieza since technically there was no power levels afterwards in the manga. I think Akira state some later?

Either way it goes, DBZ got some crazy feats and kept getting stronger and faster. They aren't sci-fi stuff like Marvel and DC. With DBZ stuff, there is no real measure after Frieza saga. You could try to calculate it to see how fast Goku is and how strong he is.

I would say after you get x amount of times stronger and faster than a Freiza who could blow up a planet with your finger, you have crazy feats. And Goku was also moving faster than lighting when he was kid. Lighting is typically 3,700 miles per second.

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11111/111114806/3071835-0282065582-24302.gif

Goku feats multiply significantly by the end of Z since Kid Goku was at his weakness. Who knows how fast he really is. But Akira wasn't thinking of all of this stuff when he was creating it. So, DBZ have its inconsistency.

[Jameerthefear]

You guys are all looking at this from the wrong angle. All you Flash fanboys are just using powers we "hear" he has as proof to make the guy seem immortal. In theory he may have these powers but in practice we have seen this dude get tagged by guys way slower and weaker than Goku, so why you guys acting like Goku has no chance? I have never seen Flash dominate a fight. Every villain he fights always gets a few shots in, and a few shots is all Goku would need obliterate him.
Have you ever heard of plot armor? If Flash used all his powers 24/7 his comics would be boring as shit because he owns everything.

[Bandito]

Have you ever heard of plot armor? If Flash used all his powers 24/7 his comics would be boring as shit because he owns everything.
That's not plot armor. Plot armor is when you don't die at all because the character is popular to fans, like Chloe from Smallville. That b1tch was supposed to die in the second to third season but because she was popular with the fans she stayed in the series.

[ForeverHeat]

Have you ever heard of plot armor? If Flash used all his powers 24/7 his comics would be boring as shit because he owns everything.

Ok I will make this simple for you. Flash is a weak human with super human speed. He could get 1000 shots in on Goku before Goku could react and still not damage him enough to win since Goku has withstood a thousand times more damage and still won (if you ever watching DBZ you would know). All Goku has to do is instant transmission and blow up Earth from a nearby planet. Flash would be f*cked. You need to get it through your head that Flash is fighting GOKU. This guy can take damage no other anime/comic book character can ever take and just get stronger. You act like Flash is fighting Haruhi Suzumiya ffs.

[red1]

could you imagine if flash was black? he is so fast already they probably didnt want to make him too overpowered

[Jameerthefear]

Ok I will make this simple for you. Flash is a weak human with super human speed. He could get 1000 shots in on Goku before Goku could react and still not damage him enough to win since Goku has withstood a thousand times more damage and still won (if you ever watching DBZ you would know). All Goku has to do is instant transmission and blow up Earth from a nearby planet. Flash would be f*cked. You need to get it through your head that Flash is fighting GOKU. This guy can take damage no other anime/comic book character can ever take and just get stronger. You act like Flash is fighting Haruhi Suzumiya ffs.
If Flash or Goku were fighting an aware Haruhi they would both be fvcked. She's a God. Anyways an IMP is stronger than pretty much anything Goku has faced. If you believe otherwise then show me a screenshot. Flash easy victory. Goku sucks. Not even a top 5 strongest anime character tbh.

[Micku]

So basically in an all out battle where Flash is trying he wins instantly? :applause:

If the Flash knows Goku capability.

Goku has never shown the feats that Flash has done. You can argue Goku couuld do what Flash could do tho. As I said before, Goku been dodging lighting since he was a kid. They never state how fast Goku really is by the end of Z, and he 100+ times faster than he was a kid on paper not including his Super Saiyan forms. But Akira wasn't thinking about sci-fi stuff. He wasn't even thinking about the the consequences to destroy the moon, so he isn't going to think about the creativity of Goku speed on a molecular level.

Theoretically: Goku owns Flash if he uses his full potential too depending on the writer.

The difference is that Flash showed his potential and has been talked about. Goku never shown it, but you can calculate it.

[ForeverHeat]

If Flash or Goku were fighting an aware Haruhi they would both be fvcked. She's a God. Anyways an IMP is stronger than pretty much anything Goku has faced. If you believe otherwise then show me a screenshot. Flash easy victory. Goku sucks. Not even a top 5 strongest anime character tbh.

Ok. You are a flaming ******. Good luck with life.

[Jameerthefear]

List of people that own Goku
TTGL
STTGL
Flash
Superman
Madoka
Conscious Haruhi
more...

[KOLBCTEW]

Anyways an IMP is stronger than pretty much anything Goku has faced. If you believe otherwise then show me a screenshot.Cell stated he could destroy the solar system; Kid Buu was shown blowing up a galaxy... so no...

Not even a top 5 strongest anime character tbh.
They're many omnipotent anime characters...

[Jameerthefear]

Cell stated he could destroy the solar system; Kid Buu was shown blowing up a galaxy... so no...

They're many omnipotent anime characters...
Links?

[Micku]

Well if Flash is going to time travel then there's no way Goku can win but without that he loses. Though now that I think about it; in DBZ timelines diverge so going back in time would not kill that current Goku but an alternate version of Goku that died as a baby.

That's in the DBZ universe. And honestly, that time travel makes the most sense than actually going back in time and changing the current timeline.

But as I said before, it depends on the writers. The writers could use Goku to his fullest potential and he should own Flash too since you could calculate him being near 10 times the speed of light at his base form by the end of Z or beginning of GT. But those are just calculation. We don't know how fast Goku is.

[Jameerthefear]

Since this one is a sweep for Flash:
TTGL vs. Goku

How quickly does TTGL win?

[ForeverHeat]

List of people that own Goku
TTGL
STTGL
Flash
Superman
Madoka
Conscious Haruhi
more...

Son, your embarrassing yourself. Just suck it up and bow down to your righteous Anime God :bowdown:

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111111167/2953388-6165524928-GokuS.png

[Micku]

Links?

Cell stating he could destroy the solar system:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/2/23781/548120-cell_ss_buster.jpg

Supreme Kai stating Buu destroying galaxies (one of the weakest Buu forms btw):
http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/9000/371313tm8.gif

[ForeverHeat]

Since this one is a sweep for Flash:
TTGL vs. Goku

How quickly does TTGL win?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc3h725RwE1r72ht7o2_500.gif

[iamgine]

The main thing is, Goku has limit to his speed no matter how strong he gets.

Flash's speed is unlimited.

In a non speedblitz battle Goku wins most of the time.

In speedblitz battle Flash wins everytime.

[KOLBCTEW]

Links?Dont remember the episode but Super Perfect Cell while firing a kamehameha at Gohan said he had enough power to blow up the solar system
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Cell_Games_Saga

"Super Perfect Cell fired his Solar Kamehameha at Gohan which is stated by himself to have enough energy to destroy the entire solar system that they reside in. "

Kid Buu was shown blowing up a galaxy in dbz episode 204 energy drain.


That's in the DBZ universe.Yeah but where else is Flash going to time travel but in the dbz universe. Goku's past is in the dbz universe not in Dc.



But as I said before, it depends on the writers. The writers could use Goku to his fullest potential and he should own Flash too since you could calculate him being near 10 times the speed of light at his base form by the end of Z or beginning of GT. But those are just calculation. We don't know how fast Goku is. That much, I agree with you

[Jameerthefear]

This is a good thread about Flash vs. Goku debated. http://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1wcmdm/flash_vs_goku_in_a_straight_up_fight/ anyways were talking about TTGL vs. Goku now

[ForeverHeat]

This is a good thread about Flash vs. Goku debated. http://www.reddit.com/r/whowouldwin/comments/1wcmdm/flash_vs_goku_in_a_straight_up_fight/ anyways were talking about TTGL vs. Goku now

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[Jameerthefear]

Also here's Flash knocking out someone with one IMP that's on Superman's level of durability:
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/38322/682969-zumimp4_super.jpg

[ForeverHeat]

Also here's Flash knocking out someone with one IMP that's on Superman's level of durability:
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/3/38322/682969-zumimp4_super.jpg
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[Jameerthefear]

I think FH is about to cry. I've exposed his favorite superhero as being a scrub :lol

[Jailblazers7]

In theory Flash is unbeatable...but that's not how comic books work lol. He has a lot of sick feats in the comics but he gets that ass whooped too.

[ForeverHeat]

I think FH is about to cry. I've exposed his favorite superhero as being a scrub :lol

http://25.media.tumblr.com/36d5fd6c8e283ed7088de037678c1206/tumblr_mvc9phtW7L1qzmfgzo1_500.gif

[Bandito]

In theory Flash is unbeatable...but that's not how comic books work lol. He has a lot of sick feats in the comics but he gets that ass whooped too.
Well to be honest that fight would be closer than most people think, but Flash can make molecules explode and with his speed he can obliterate Goku if he touches him. Goku only has long range attacks on him.

[Micku]

Well to be honest that fight would be closer than most people think, but Flash can make molecules explode and with his speed he can obliterate Goku if he touches him. Goku only has long range attacks on him.

Well, Goku can sense him without seeing him, so that's another. He is also stronger than him. His ki blasts are planet buster material. Potentially solar system or galaxy buster.

Goku could possibly do some of things that Flash does. Like if he was written by the DC writers, he could technically turn back time too with his speed at his strongest and create his own version of IMP. Goku should be faster than light if he was dodging lighting when he was kid. We just don't know how fast. We can only calculate.

It's closer to what ppl think. Some ppl underestimate the full potential of The Flash. And some ppl underestimate how fast Goku is because we don't know how fast he really is.

[VIntageNOvel]

since its useless to try to argue it with jameer,

why not use some stat, like, amount of comic sales :confusedshrug:

[Jameerthefear]

Sliver surfer could beat Goku.
Definitely.

[Clyde]

god...this thread is still going

:facepalm

[iamgine]

Well, Goku can sense him without seeing him, so that's another. He is also stronger than him. His ki blasts are planet buster material. Potentially solar system or galaxy buster.

Goku could possibly do some of things that Flash does. Like if he was written by the DC writers, he could technically turn back time too with his speed at his strongest and create his own version of IMP. Goku should be faster than light if he was dodging lighting when he was kid. We just don't know how fast. We can only calculate.

It's closer to what ppl think. Some ppl underestimate the full potential of The Flash. And some ppl underestimate how fast Goku is because we don't know how fast he really is.
The main thing is, Goku has limit to his speed.

Flash's speed is unlimited.

[eriX]

Batman vs. Iron Man?

Astaroth vs. Zangief?

Ghost Rider vs. Spawn?

Captain America vs. Captain Canuck?

Kratos vs. Wolverine?

batman would wreck iron man.

[CarlosBoozer]

http://i.imgur.com/kRGMpnw.jpg
This is so badass.
Sad when he mentioned earth's destruction and superman is left mourning :(

[Micku]

Just as an FYI, lightning isn't nearly as fast as light. If Flash's radio feat is any indication, he's so fast it's incomprehensible. 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times faster than light as a conservative estimate.

The writer probably just didn't do the math though. :lol

That's what I said in my prior post. I'm just saying that Goku was dodging lighting when he was a kid and got much faster by the end of Z and especially the beginning of GT.

And yup. The writer didn't do the math for DBZ.



The main thing is, Goku has limit to his speed.

Flash's speed is unlimited.


Depends on the writers and depends on the Flash since it is always changing.

Like this:

The first Flash, Jay Garrick, only could go to the speed of sound. After the introduction of the speed force, he could go near the speed of light.

The second and third Flash were faster than the first one, but they also got nerfed and buff depending on the writer.

So, depending on the writing, you could get someone who could go near the speed of light or you'll get then you have something like this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/126893/2658580-2632114_theflashisthefastestmanalive.png

The Flash running at 9.4 million times faster than the speed of light. How he was able to do it without killing them or time travel is beyond me. Whatever. Don't think about it too much.

The Flash is as fast as the writer says it is. But if we're talking about full Flash capabilities from what he has shown, then he is faster than Goku could even react.

[Micku]

Ghost Rider vs. Spawn?


Depends on which Spawn, no?

Spawn was god at one point. That Spawn would face against 1 million Superman or Dr. Manhattan or other cosmic beings.

[iamgine]

Of course anything in comic is always "depending on the writer". That's kind of a given. A cockroach can beat goku if the writer wants it to.

[eriX]

That's what I said in my prior post. I'm just saying that Goku was dodging lighting when he was a kid and got much faster by the end of Z and especially the beginning of GT.

And yup. The writer didn't do the math for DBZ.



Depends on the writers and depends on the Flash since it is always changing.

Like this:

The first Flash, Jay Garrick, only could go to the speed of sound. After the introduction of the speed force, he could go near the speed of light.

The second and third Flash were faster than the first one, but they also got nerfed and buff depending on the writer.

So, depending on the writing, you could get someone who could go near the speed of light or you'll get then you have something like this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/12/126893/2658580-2632114_theflashisthefastestmanalive.png

The Flash running at 9.4 million times faster than the speed of light. How he was able to do it without killing them or time travel is beyond me. Whatever. Don't think about it too much.

The Flash is as fast as the writer says it is. But if we're talking about full Flash capabilities from what he has shown, then he is faster than Goku could even react.

wouldnt the same thing apply to goku...? if he was already faster than the speed of light then how isnt he time traveling consistently?

Why do we even argue comic/anime characters and whos more powerful when they are fictional...

[raiderfan19]

High end flash beats just about any corporeal fictional character. You are looking for the one above all, living tribunal, infinity gauntlet Adam warlock or the like to be able to beat him.

[Micku]

wouldnt the same thing apply to goku...? if he was already faster than the speed of light then how isnt he time traveling consistently?

Why do we even argue comic/anime characters and whos more powerful when they are fictional...

There are a lot of inconsistency with them both. For DBZ, the lack of consequences to the moon being destroyed. Like Cell supposed solar system destruction powered Kamehameha wave only making a small crater when connecting to Gohan's counter Kamehameha wave. Or the fact that Vegeta went all out against Majin Buu, blow himself up to kill him, but only made a crater. But in actuality, if he should've gather enough power to blow up the solar system to kill him or the planet. Either they have insane amount of control or you'll have to suspend your disbelief.

And it's fun arguing it because it's fun. I'm just being a bit of a buzz kill by saying it depends on the writer.

[Angel Face]

lol! Thread still not over? Kids these days... :facepalm DBZ has the most OP characters ever created and that's a fact. Characters from that animen is too strong even for the anime itself.

[Bandito]

http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2012/076/4/6/goku_lakers_2_by_gamuhammad-d4t2h50.jpg

Even Goku reps the lakers

[LongLiveTheKing]

Nothing Flash will do can hurt Goku.

And who says Flash is faster than Goku.

[Jameerthefear]

Nothing Flash will do can hurt Goku.

And who says Flash is faster than Goku.
Read the thread. Flash owns Goku.
Next.

[ForeverHeat]

goku neva lost to deathcockstroke

:oldlol: Flash is pathetic. He got beat by Slade. SLADE!!! Thats the villain from Teen Titans. Slade got his ass whooped by f*ckin Robin, ffs.

[raiderfan19]

Toni died fighting radditz with help from piccolo. They both have terrible showings. Flash's high end showings beat gokus

[GOATbrookisGAWD]

You nikkas need to get laid and leave this cartoon foolery behind with your virginity :facepalm

[ForeverHeat]

Toni died fighting radditz with help from piccolo. They both have terrible showings. Flash's high end showings beat gokus

First of all, Prime Goku would destroy a thousand Raditz's. Secondly, Raditz would destroy Slade if they were to fight, as would any other credible fighter in DBZ. Unless you are telling me Robin would beat Raditz?

[Bandito]

Robin would beat Goku easy.

[ForeverHeat]

Flash > Slade > Robin > Goku

[Jameerthefear]

Flash > Slade > Robin > Goku
I agree.

[Rodmantheman]

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[ForeverHeat]

I agree.

You cant agree with sarcasm bro.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Read the thread. Flash owns Goku.
Next.
Nope can't do anything against Goku.
Goku's to strong and just as fast.

[Jameerthefear]

Nope can't do anything against Goku.
Goku's to strong and just as fast.
:roll: Just stop.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Goku easily. Let's put this into perspective:

Master Roshi was able to destroy the moon in Dragon Ball (the original series) and his power level at this time was said to be approximately 200.

Later Frieza's second form has a confirmed PL of 1,000,000 and when he transforms to his 4th form (substantially stronger than his second form) and fights Goku he states he is only using 1% of his maximum power which puts his 100% power at AT LEAST 100,000,000. Realistically more like 200,000,000. And at 100% of his full power he was still beat by Goku who was just a new Super Saiyan.

This means that newly transformed SSJ Goku had 1,000,000x the power required to blow up the moon. And let's not forget that Goku finished Dragon Ball Z at a MUCH higher PL than he was when he fought Frieza.

[Jameerthefear]

Goku easily. Let's put this into perspective:

Master Roshi was able to destroy the moon in Dragon Ball (the original series) and his power level at this time was said to be approximately 200.

Later Frieza's second form has a confirmed PL of 1,000,000 and when he transforms to his 4th form (substantially stronger than his second form) and fights Goku he states he is only using 1% of his maximum power which puts his 100% power at AT LEAST 100,000,000. Realistically more like 200,000,000. And at 100% of his full power he was still beat by Goku who was just a new Super Saiyan.

This means that newly transformed SSJ Goku had 1,000,000x the power required to blow up the moon. And let's not forget that Goku finished Dragon Ball Z at a MUCH higher PL than he was when he fought Frieza.
Who cares? Flash in less than a nanosecond.

[Bandito]

Goku easily. Let's put this into perspective:

Master Roshi was able to destroy the moon in Dragon Ball (the original series) and his power level at this time was said to be approximately 200.

Later Frieza's second form has a confirmed PL of 1,000,000 and when he transforms to his 4th form (substantially stronger than his second form) and fights Goku he states he is only using 1% of his maximum power which puts his 100% power at AT LEAST 100,000,000. Realistically more like 200,000,000. And at 100% of his full power he was still beat by Goku who was just a new Super Saiyan.

This means that newly transformed SSJ Goku had 1,000,000x the power required to blow up the moon. And let's not forget that Goku finished Dragon Ball Z at a MUCH higher PL than he was when he fought Frieza.
ANd Flash is still better. Think about that.

[LongLiveTheKing]

:roll: Just stop.
Again nothing Flash can do will hurt Goku :confusedshrug:

[Bandito]

He would make Goku explode in the molecular level, just stop

[KOLBCTEW]

Vibrating through him wouldn't hurt?IIRC he couldn't vibrate through some robots from a future line made from extremely dense materials and it was only after they altered their own density was he able to succeed.

[vinsane01]

flash is just a fast human right? given if he is as fast as he is portrayed by some posters here, next question is how can he hurt goku? if he punched goku whilst running, yes the impact would theoretically be harder but at the same time he has a mortal body, hence not so durable. He'd get his arm or probably his entire body obliterated after that punch. Lol just a thought.

[Rodmantheman]

Flash about to get rape

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111130781/3696877-9389728456-26290.jpg

[Micku]

ANd Flash is still better. Think about that.

No he isn't.

I'm going to play the devil's advocate here.

He is better at manipulating his abilities to exert force since Force = Acceleration x Mass. Depending on the Flash, literally depending because some Flash heroes are faster than others, the Flash could beat Goku. But beating Goku wouldn't be by punching him at his present form. He'll defeat Goku by time travel possibly when he isn't looking.

Like the first Flash wouldn't be able to beat Goku since his limit was at the speed of sound and after he absorb the speedforce, he was able to run near the speed of light. That's not enough to beat Goku since he moves way faster than that.

Wally West or Barry could beat Goku, but we don't know how fast Goku is at his peak. But even then, it just depends on how fast Goku could react. Goku coouuuld just use instant transmission and poke him with his finger, and then Flash is dead.

[DaSeba5]

I do get the sense that because Jameer doesn't like DBZ, he has a biased opinion against Goku.

[TheReal Kendall]

I think people are forgetting a big factor here. Goku and sayians get stronger after every fight.

[ForeverHeat]

I think people are forgetting a big factor here. Goku and sayians get stronger after every fight.

Jameer hasnt ever watched DBZ so I doubt he would know.

[raiderfan19]

You guys realize that flash beat the anti monitor by himself right(in one of the det inner versions of crisis). Flash could speed steal him and Goku wouldn't be able to move. Goku is strong enough to have flashs respect, cocky/sportsman enough not to go for the immediate kill and no corporeal being beats an all out flash unless they flash ko him before he starts

[Crimsonrain777]

I think people are forgetting a big factor here. Goku and sayians get stronger after every fight.

it's hard to get stronger from a fight after you die.

[KOLBCTEW]

You guys realize that flash beat the anti monitor by himself right(in one of the det inner versions of crisis).What? That was only his physical shell/armor not his Energy form and that only happened after the anti-monitor got depowered through the efforts of Dr. Light and the other heroes who first weakened him then blew a hole through him. Then Flash did what he did but in the end Flash's efforts amounted to nothing as Anti-Monitor in his energy form vaporized the heroes present.

[Jameerthefear]

Everyone who is arguing that Goku might be as fast as Flash is a moron.

[Micku]

Everyone who is arguing that Goku might be as fast as Flash is a moron.

No, no, no silly. Goku IS faster some of the Flash heroes, depending on their level of the speed force.

He's faster than Jay Garrick, first flash. He could only go to the speed of sound and after absorbing the speed force, he could go near the speed of light.

Goku was faster than Bart Allen before his mastery of the speed force. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Bart Allen is the speed force now. So, he's faster than all of the Flashes.

Barry Allen can run so fast that he'll travel through time, but it wasn't accurate. He had run on a “cosmic treadmill” to time travel. This was so he could get the right vibration to do so. While he could time travel without help, he doesn't have control over it as Wally.

Wally West is OG Flash in terms of creativity and feats. I think he was the first one who did IMP, speed steal, ESP, and could heal his wounds. But even then, Goku and Superman could technically do IMP too. All you need to do is go near the speed of light and punch somebody. And he was the first Flash to break the light barrier I believe and he could time travel without a “cosmic treadmill”.

If there was any Flash that could beat Goku, it's Wally West. He has the combination of speed and control. He could stop other people's momentum and steal it for his own.

In this scan, it shows Barry trying to go back in time and is struggling while Wally West does it with ease:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vPiNeYb4Ml4/TmhN2ONX1WI/AAAAAAAAAOY/4gUjZbnkHLk/s1600/flash%2Brebirth%2B6.jpg



flash is just a fast human right? given if he is as fast as he is portrayed by some posters here, next question is how can he hurt goku? if he punched goku whilst running, yes the impact would theoretically be harder but at the same time he has a mortal body, hence not so durable. He'd get his arm or probably his entire body obliterated after that punch. Lol just a thought.

The Flash mastery of the speed force would stop all the negative draw backs when he punch someone. That's why when he does the IMP, he won't die from it.

Tldr: Goku is faster than the first Flash definitely. He probably isn't faster than the second, but we don't know because Goku's speed is unknown. He doesn't have control of his speed than the third flash, and he isn't faster than the fourth Flash once he becomes the speed force.

[Crimsonrain777]

regardless of how fast Goku may or may not be. wouldnt flash still be capable of stealing his speed and just going off on his ass with a flurry of IMP's ?

[Jameerthefear]

regardless of how fast Goku may or may not be. wouldnt flash still be capable of stealing his speed and just going off on his ass with a flurry of IMP's ?
Yes.

[Micku]

regardless of how fast Goku may or may not be. wouldnt flash still be capable of stealing his speed and just going off on his ass with a flurry of IMP's ?

Well, that's only Wally West and maaybe Bart Allen (can't remember). But Wally West isn't even the fastest Flash. Bart Allen is faster, but Wally got the most control of the speed force and has impressive feats since he created IMP, speed steal and first Flash to run past the light barrier and etc.

And Superman could tank a IMP I believe. We don't know if Goku could tank it. I mean...if the DBZ fighters were fighting at the speed of light, then they took many IMP.

And while the Flash is super fast, Goku could technically use instant transmission (teleport) to hit him. One hit from Goku and it's over. Easier said than done because Flash has crazy reactions speed and it takes time for Goku to teleport. I think attoseconds or just near light speed. I forgot. If it's attoseconds, then Goku is a goner.

This is why it matters on how fast Goku is. Goku could just teleport to him. Teleportation is faster than the Flash since it is instant. What matters is how fast could Goku throw the punch. He could teleport with his fist being a centimeter to his face. If it connects, it's over.

So, it depends on the writing. But Flash at his fastest, he could kill Goku before he knew what was coming. But you could write it the other way. Goku could just teleport and punch him.

Do you see this:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/9/93477/2310498-flashv2148022rg.jpg

Zoom got the first hit. If THIS was Goku, the fight would've been already over and Flash would've died. And his IMP didn't kill Zoom either. Granted, I think Zoom could not get his speed stolen by Wally West. So....it just depends on the writing. You could write Goku defeating Flash pretty easily. If Flash (Wally West) could go all out with his super speed reaction time and time travel, then Wally would have this in the bag.

[VIntageNOvel]

Well, that's only Wally West and maaybe Bart Allen (can't remember). But Wally West isn't even the fastest Flash. Bart Allen is faster, but Wally got the most control of the speed force and has impressive feats since he created IMP, speed steal and first Flash to run past the light barrier and etc.

And Superman could tank a IMP I believe. We don't know if Goku could tank it. I mean...if the DBZ fighters were fighting at the speed of light, then they took many IMP.

And while the Flash is super fast, Goku could technically use instant transmission (teleport) to hit him. One hit from Goku and it's over. Easier said than done because Flash has crazy reactions speed and it takes time for Goku to teleport. I think attoseconds or just near light speed. I forgot. If it's attoseconds, then Goku is a goner.

This is why it matters on how fast Goku is. Goku could just teleport to him. Teleportation is faster than the Flash since it is instant. What matters is how fast could Goku throw the punch. He could teleport with his fist being a centimeter to his face. If it connects, it's over.

So, it depends on the writing. But Flash at his fastest, he could kill Goku before he knew what was coming. But you could write it the other way. Goku could just teleport and punch him.

Zoom got the first hit. If THIS was Goku, the fight would've been already over and Flash would've died. And his IMP didn't kill Zoom either. Granted, I think Zoom could not get his speed stolen by Wally West. So....it just depends on the writing. You could write Goku defeating Flash pretty easily. If Flash (Wally West) could go all out with his super speed reaction time and time travel, then Wally would have this in the bag.


you forget how goku could just use energy field around his body ala perfect cell, and flash couldnt even get close
http://images.wikia.com/dragonball/images/a/a9/CellsBarrier2.png

heck he could just use soalr flare to blind him, the element of surprise would slow his reaction

[Jameerthefear]

bump

[robert de niro]

flash would run away :pimp:

[Jameerthefear]

flash would run away :pimp:
And then punch Goku in the ****ing face a billion times before he can blink, yes.

[ForeverHeat]

And then punch Goku in the ****ing face a billion times before he can blink, yes.

Goku shits on Speedy Gonzalez.

[Jameerthefear]

Flash shitting on so many kid's dreams :oldlol: this thread is a tears goldmine :roll:

[ForeverHeat]

Flash shitting on so many kid's dreams :oldlol: this thread is a tears goldmine :roll:

I know right :oldlol: I feel sorry for his fans the most. They deserve a better hero. He should just kill himself and save Goku the work.

[ForeverHeat]

Damn. Never thought of both of those. Flash so outmatched its silly. There should be a yamcha vs flash thread instead.

:oldlol:

Flash

http://www.imagerepository.co.uk/images/fasching_flash_second_skin_costume.jpg

vs

Yajirobe

http://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/yajirobe5.jpg

Who wins?