Lebron and Kobe

[Ronaldinho]

Kobe: 30/6/6/2/1 .464 (41 min)

From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA
2008 2010 67 67 40.7 10.4 22.4 .464 1.8 5.1 .344 8.7 17.3

2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
.500 7.2 8.6 .845 0.9 4.7 5.7 5.5 1.6 0.7 3.1 2.9 29.8

Lebron: 27/9/6/2/1 .487 (43 min)

From To G GS MP FG FGA FG% 3P 3PA 3P% 2P 2PA
2011 2013 67 67 42.8 9.5 19.5 .487 1.3 4.0 .331 8.2 15.5

2P% FT FTA FT% ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
.527 6.4 8.4 .758 1.9 7.0 8.9 6.0 1.8 0.9 3.2 2.2 26.7

Two of the greatest runs to the finals ever, with same results and almost identical stats. It's a shame we didnt saw they against each other in the finals.

[Railgun]

Really puts into perspective how much Lebron>>>Kobe.

[fiddy]

5>0.5

/thread

[ImKobe]

Really puts into perspective how much Lebron>>>Kobe.

Kobe has better numbers in less minutes son, & he didn't have 2 all-stars to help him.

[secund2nun]

Kobe should not even be compared to Lebron.

[ImKobe]

Kobe should not even be compared to Lebron.

Kobe top 5 GOAT, Lebron top 30.

[secund2nun]

Kobe top 5 GOAT, Lebron top 30.

It's the othe way around. Lebron top 5 GOAT Kobe top 30 GOAT.

Kobe= first round loser who road the coattails of Shaq and a elite front court including the real 09 10 finals MVP Gasol.

[sportjames23]

5>0.5

/thread


Lebron stans didn't counter this. :oldlol:

[Cold soul]

5>0.5

/thread

:bowdown:

[Railgun]

5>0.5

/thread
Kobe doesn't have any championship rings. 2>>>0

[Prometheus]

5>0.5

/thread

2000 - certified role player
2001 - good sidekick
2002 - RIGGED. DOES NOT COUNT. HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE GO OVER THIS.

2009 - KG injured
2010 - 6-24

might be 5 rings, but they definitely weren't impressive.

and... when did 2 become 0.5?

[fiddy]

2000 - certified role player
2001 - good sidekick
2002 - RIGGED. DOES NOT COUNT. HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE GO OVER THIS.

2009 - KG injured
2010 - 6-24

might be 5 rings, but they definitely weren't impressive.

and... when did 2 become 0.5?
Half season equals to 0.5, the other one was gift from Stern doesnt count at all

[secund2nun]

2000 - certified role player
2001 - good sidekick
2002 - sidekick and RIGGED. DOES NOT COUNT. HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE GO OVER THIS.

2009 - Gasol finals MVP, 43% shooting chucker, and KG injured
2010 - Gasol real finals MVP, 40% shooting chucker, and 6-24

might be 5 rings, but they definitely weren't impressive.

and... when did 2 become 0.5?

Edited for accuracy

[nzahir]

Finals mvp 2=2, lebron will have more chances to get them while kobe has no chance :oldlol:
If lebron ends with 3 finals mvps its NO DEBATE TO WHO HAD THE BETTER CAREER, b/c it will be LEBRON.
4 mvps>1 mvp
Lebrons stats>Kobes stats

[Prometheus]

Half season equals to 0.5, the other one was gift from Stern doesnt count at all

wasn't half season, it was 66 games... that's only 16 less... and they were regular season games... the playoffs were still exactly the same and Miami faced full-strength indy, boston, and okc with an injured bosh. absolutely nothing about that ring doesn't count.

and PLEASE explain how 2013 was a gift from stern.

[red1]

2000 - certified role player
2001 - good sidekick
2002 - RIGGED. DOES NOT COUNT. HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE GO OVER THIS.
2009 - KG injured
2010 - 6-24

might be 5 rings, but they definitely weren't impressive.

and... when did 2 become 0.5?
2003 - rapist

[IncarceratedBob]

2000 - certified role player
2001 - good sidekick
2002 - RIGGED. DOES NOT COUNT. HOW MANY TIMES MUST WE GO OVER THIS.

2009 - KG injured
2010 - 6-24

might be 5 rings, but they definitely weren't impressive.

and... when did 2 become 0.5?
2000 =.15
2001 = .35
2002 = 0
2009 = .4
2010 = .5

Kobe has a total of 1.4 PNR (positive nba rings)

2004 = -.7
2008 = -.2

Then you see that he has -.9 NNR (negative nba rings)

His TNR (total nba rings) is .5

[Railgun]

Miami's biggest competitor (Boston) actually benefited from the shortened season. Probably more than Miami.

[secund2nun]

Finals mvp 2=2, lebron will have more chances to get them while kobe has no chance :oldlol:
If lebron ends with 3 finals mvps its NO DEBATE TO WHO HAD THE BETTER CAREER, b/c it will be LEBRON.
4 mvps>1 mvp
Lebrons stats>Kobes stats

There is already no debate. Kobe is a fraud media created "superstar."

Not to mention Kobe should have won neither of those finals MVP. Gasol was more impressive than Kobe in both the 09 and 10 finals.

[chazzy]

Damn I didn't know Prometheus was actually a shitty poster

[Railgun]

Damn I didn't know Prometheus was actually a shitty poster
sucks kobe's dick:
"he's a good, educated poster

doesn't suck kobe's dick:
"he doesn't know what he's talking about. shitty poster"

[Prometheus]

Damn I didn't know Prometheus was actually a shitty poster

I can take an insult, but at least explain yourself

[KobesFinger]

2000 =.15
2001 = .35
2002 = 0
2009 = .4
2010 = .5

Kobe has a total of 1.4 PNR (positive nba rings)

2004 = -.7
2008 = -.2

Then you see that he has -.9 NNR (negative nba rings)

His TNR (total nba rings) is .5

The hell is this?

[sammichoffate]

The hell is this?Funny way of discrediting Kobe :lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe with the better numbers an he didn't have 2 all stars to boot :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

I can take an insult, but at least explain yourself


Explain how a 29/7/6 player who led all players in 4th quarter scoring during the post season was a side kick :roll:

[nzahir]

wasn't half season, it was 66 games... that's only 16 less... and they were regular season games... the playoffs were still exactly the same and Miami faced full-strength indy, boston, and okc with an injured bosh. absolutely nothing about that ring doesn't count.

and PLEASE explain how 2013 was a gift from stern.
Lol dont worry fiddy has autism...
Gift from Stern lmfao..mia shot the least amount of fts ALL TIME in a 7 game series and they have one of the best finishers in the game in lebron...ETHERED
La fan logic=autistic thinking, no wonder laker fans are hated and thought of as autists who dont know what stats are.

[Prometheus]

Explain how a 29/7/6 player who led all players in 4th quarter scoring during the post season was a side kick :roll:

he was great but no case is to be made that shaq wasn't better

[TheMarkMadsen]

he was great but no case is to be made that shaq wasn't better

a 29/7/6 all nba player who leads all players in 4th quarter scoring, leads his team in scoring through the first 3 rounds is not a "sidekick"

and if we're are going by your 2009 logic.. Lebron has 0 rings right?

2012- Rose injured

2013- Westbrook injured

[IncarceratedBob]

a 29/7/6 all nba player who leads all players in 4th quarter scoring, leads his team in scoring through the first 3 rounds is not a "sidekick
he is when he plays alongside peak shaq

sorry bud but even peak MJ would be shaqs sidekick those years, just gotta accept it

[Heavincent]

a 29/7/6 all nba player who leads all players in 4th quarter scoring, leads his team in scoring through the first 3 rounds is not a "sidekick"

and if we're are going by your 2009 logic.. Lebron has 0 rings right?

2012- Rose injured

2013- Westbrook injured

2013- Saved by Ray Allen

[kobeef24]

It's like ISH somehow compiled every kobetard and lebron dick rider into one thread. We should only let them post in here.

Seriously though, both are great and discrediting one doesn't make the other better.

[TheMarkMadsen]

he is when he plays alongside peak shaq

sorry bud but even peak MJ would be shaqs sidekick those years, just gotta accept it

nah, side kick is a belittling term

a "side kick" doesn't play more minutes in the playoffs and lead the team in field goal attempts in the regular season..

in the playoffs Shaq took 1.5 more shots per game to score 1 more point per game than Kobe..

a "side kick" doesn't take over multiple playoff games and lead the team in scoring 2 out of 4 playoff series while leading the team in assist and steals throughout the entire playoffs while also scoring 29 ppg

[truhooper]

Finals mvp 2=2, lebron will have more chances to get them while kobe has no chance :oldlol:
If lebron ends with 3 finals mvps its NO DEBATE TO WHO HAD THE BETTER CAREER, b/c it will be LEBRON.
4 mvps>1 mvp
Lebrons stats>Kobes stats

:cheers:

[secund2nun]

nah, side kick is a belittling term

a "side kick" doesn't play more minutes in the playoffs and lead the team in field goal attempts in the regular season..

in the playoffs Shaq took 1.5 more shots per game to score 1 more point per game than Kobe..

a "side kick" doesn't take over multiple playoff games and lead the team in scoring 2 out of 4 playoff series while leading the team in assist and steals throughout the entire playoffs while also scoring 29 ppg

He was a sidekick. Shaq was a much better player. Using field goal attempts to judge a player's worth?....now that's Kobe logic for you lol

Shaq left and prime Kobe could not even win a playoff series or get better than a 7th seed until he once again got an elite front court.

Shaq's playoff stats:

2000= 31 ppg 15 rpg 3 apg 2.5 bpg 56% fg 22 shots per game (double teamed)

2001= 30 ppg 15 rpg 3 apg 2.5 bpg 55% fg 21 shots per game (double teamed)

2002= 29 ppg 13 rpg 3 apg 2.5 bpg 53% fg 20 shots per game (double teamed)


Kobe's playoff stats:

2000= 21 ppg 4.5 apg 4.5 rpg 1.5 spg 1.5 bpg 44% fg 18 shots per game

2001= 29 ppg 7 rpg 6 apg 1.6 spg 1 bpg 47% fg 22 shots per game

2002= 27 ppg 6 rpg 5 apg 1.5 spg 1 bpg 43% fg 23 shots per game



Not only do Shaq's stats murder Kobe, but Shaq was taking up a double team making the gap even bigger. Not to mention Shaq's final's stats murder Kobe just like his overall playoff (and regular season) stats murder Kobe.

Kobe was the sidekick. It's ok...that's simply the truth.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It's like ISH somehow compiled every kobetard and lebron dick rider into one thread. We should only let them post in here.

Seriously though, both are great and discrediting one doesn't make the other better.
lol this whole .5 shit people are bringing up is retarded

[zoom17]

It's like ISH somehow compiled every kobetard and lebron dick rider into one thread. We should only let them post in here.

Seriously though, both are great and discrediting one doesn't make the other better.

:applause: