anyone here have beat making experience?

[nathanjizzle]

i want to learn to play piano, but also want to make beats most likelye trance and edm. i was thinking about getting this. is it hard to learn beat making, and what program is good?

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[L.Kizzle]

Beat making is simple.

Making music is a challenge.

Seriously, all you need to know is major chords. C, G, F, A, D, E, B#, E#. If you can't learn those in 8 minutes, there is no hope for you, lol.

[andgar923]

I don't like the keys on that keyboard. Not good keys if you wanna learn piano. As far as software is concerned go with ableton live. It's considered the best software by most. Although the learning curve is steep.

[andgar923]

Beat making is simple.

Making music is a challenge.

Seriously, all you need to know is major chords. C, G, F, A, D, E, B#, E#. If you can't learn those in 8 minutes, there is no hope for you, lol.
Uhhhh..... NO.

[nathanjizzle]

I don't like the keys on that keyboard. Not good keys if you wanna learn piano. As far as software is concerned go with ableton live. It's considered the best software by most. Although the learning curve is steep.

i just bought it. it comes with ableton im installing it right now. i wanted to get a real piano but also wanted to have beat making capabilities as well. ohwell.

i have no idea how to use this machine and program btw.

[andgar923]

i just bought it. it comes with ableton im installing it right now. i wanted to get a real piano but also wanted to have beat making capabilities as well. ohwell.

i have no idea how to use this machine and program btw.
My gripe with that keyboard is the keys aren't weighted. They have a very springy synth feel, which isn't good for piano players.

What you need is a semi weighted keyboard, those give you a closer piano feel.

There are plenty of Live resources available online. Tons of vids and tutorials on YouTube. You will need patience to learn the basics. And tons more to take advantage of some of it's more advanced capabilities.

I'm still a Live novice so unfortunately I can't help you out. But if you get Reason pm me and I'll be able to guide you.

As far as which controller to get?

I own the M-Audio Axiom and it's great for playing piano

[nathanjizzle]

My gripe with that keyboard is the keys aren't weighted. They have a very springy synth feel, which isn't good for piano players.

What you need is a semi weighted keyboard, those give you a closer piano feel.

There are plenty of Live resources available online. Tons of vids and tutorials on YouTube. You will need patience to learn the basics. And tons more to take advantage of some of it's more advanced capabilities.

I'm still a Live novice so unfortunately I can't help you out. But if you get Reason pm me and I'll be able to guide you.

As far as which controller to get?

I own the M-Audio Axiom and it's great for playing piano

yeah, thats what i kinda wanted was the official pianos with the weighted keys. I guess ill make due with this one. Really i just wanna set this up so that it plays piano sounds :lol ill learn beat making later. if i cant figure it out ill pm u.

[andgar923]

yeah, thats what i kinda wanted was the official pianos with the weighted keys. I guess ill make due with this one. Really i just wanna set this up so that it plays piano sounds :lol ill learn beat making later. if i cant figure it out ill pm u.
Sure no problem, good luck. You'll need TONS of patience.

[andgar923]

I'm in the same boat, taking piano lessons, tryna save some $ to get a new computer and midi keyboard and Maschine and whatnot. I'm getting Reason 7 but I hear Ableton is good for edm type shit. Fl Studio is also good, supposedly the quickest to learn




:lol


making easy beats is simple. making slapping ass beats is a challenge, beats are still music btw... and Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music, knew nothing about chords, never learned, Beatles didn't either, bassist from Black Sabbath picked up a bass day the band was formed, there is hope for anyone who has desire to make music.
Both Reason and Live have their pros and cons, it comes down to what you want and need. Your workflow will be a huge factor if not THE biggest factor. Try both programs and compare.

[eriX]

if you're gonna make dance music don't call it beatmaking breh thats for hiphop, just call it what it will be normally i.e. producing music.

FL is the pretty easy to learn for the starting functions, they map out everything nice and easily accessible for beginners just get a torrent and get some version of FL studio and then if you feel like switching the albeton, you will atleast get some basics down first before switching. The only real difference from what i heard is maybe ableton's sound engine is a bit better other than that no real difference. And you didn't need to buy a rather expensive keyboard, really not needed any time in the future. I'm just using a plain midi keyboard that i brought for like 20 bucks on sale.

Oh and making trance or anything in general will atleast take the first 6 months to make anything remotely similar to commercial tracks. Then like atleast another 2 - 3 years to truly master all concepts behind. Just so you have a real timeframe to work out.

[Done_And_Done]

Andgar - post the link again to your Soundcloud page for me please/thx

[andgar923]

Andgar - post the link again to your Soundcloud page for me please/thx

https://soundcloud.com/agua-1

[Done_And_Done]

https://soundcloud.com/agua-1

Thanks man...

[andgar923]

Thanks man...

Naw thank you.

:cheers:

[nathanjizzle]

im going to exchange the akai today for something less advanced. I did get it to work and started learning piano last night:rockon:

[CeltsGarlic]

i had a fair share of beat making in my life

[L.Kizzle]

Uhhhh..... NO.
Are you saying these are not the easiest chords to master? You know how many songs were made using these simple chords?

[L.Kizzle]

making easy beats is simple. making slapping ass beats is a challenge, beats are still music btw... and Jimi Hendrix couldn't read music, knew nothing about chords, never learned, Beatles didn't either, bassist from Black Sabbath picked up a bass day the band was formed, there is hope for anyone who has desire to make music.
Well, I know it's music, but it's the simplest form of music to make.

Foe example. Lil Jon even demonstrates this in his video and I love Lil Jon and E-40. Snap Ya Fingers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnG8ZXVWq4Q)

Reading music and playing by ear is totally cool. I can't read music (sheet music), but I know chords. If someone told me to play (insert note/chord) I can play it. But if they gave me sheet music, I'd be lost.

[L.Kizzle]

My gripe with that keyboard is the keys aren't weighted. They have a very springy synth feel, which isn't good for piano players.

What you need is a semi weighted keyboard, those give you a closer piano feel.

There are plenty of Live resources available online. Tons of vids and tutorials on YouTube. You will need patience to learn the basics. And tons more to take advantage of some of it's more advanced capabilities.

I'm still a Live novice so unfortunately I can't help you out. But if you get Reason pm me and I'll be able to guide you.

As far as which controller to get?

I own the M-Audio Axiom and it's great for playing piano
Oh snap, I got the same keyboard, 88 keys along with Reason and the programs that came with the keyboard. A pretty neat synth station (analog factory.)

[L.Kizzle]

how's your band coming along?
I'm ace23's opening act.

[andgar923]

Are you saying these are not the easiest chords to master? You know how many songs were made using these simple chords?


I was disagreeing with your belief that there wasn't any hope for somebody that couldn't learn chords.

Specially in 8 minutes, which Im sure you were being facetious about.

I think that talent is talent, creativity is creativity. One doesn't need to learn 'chords' to be good (although they do help tremendously). Like somebody else mentioned there's been great artists that weren't musically trained. They don't know how to read or understand chord structure, yet they've been successful.

I do agree that making a beat 'can' be simple tho. Which is why I don't sample much, which is why I try to do my own thing instead of following the current musical trend.

[andgar923]

Oh snap, I got the same keyboard, 88 keys along with Reason and the programs that came with the keyboard. A pretty neat synth station (analog factory.)

I got the 49 keys.

Love the feel, wish I brought it with me to Canada :( miss it so much.

[PullupJay]

Sup. Experienced hip hop producer here.

If I could give a beginner any advice it would be to learn the basics of your beat making program but stay away from structure at first as much as possible. Do you have an ear for music? If so rely on that. Understand the fudementals of rhythm but Make beats based on your creativity and be as sporadic as possible. Your beats will be sh1tty.. and its ok. Do some trial and error and self analyzation and you will make progress.As time goes on dabble a bit on music theory,chord progression,technique,effects,and stuff.. Incorporate what you learned with your creativity (just fvck around) and develop your own style and sound.

Good Luck!

[L.Kizzle]

I was disagreeing with your belief that there wasn't any hope for somebody that couldn't learn chords.

Specially in 8 minutes, which Im sure you were being facetious about.

I think that talent is talent, creativity is creativity. One doesn't need to learn 'chords' to be good (although they do help tremendously). Like somebody else mentioned there's been great artists that weren't musically trained. They don't know how to read or understand chord structure, yet they've been successful.

I do agree that making a beat 'can' be simple tho. Which is why I don't sample much, which is why I try to do my own thing instead of following the current musical trend.
I was joking that sense.

I can't read music, but you should at least know the very basics of music theory. You don't have to be Stevie Wonder on the keys, but you should at least know your way around that thing.