have any of you heard of the material known as "Graphene"?

[-p.tiddy-]

Graphene: Strongest & thinnest material known to exist, may be the next wonder material (http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2014-04-14/news/49126122_1_graphene-wonder-material-aerogel)


I just want to say one word to you. Just one word.

No, fans of "The Graduate," the word isn't "plastics."

It's "graphene."

Graphene is the strongest, thinnest material known to exist. A form of carbon, it can conduct electricity and heat better than anything else. And get ready for this: It is not only the hardest material in the world, but also one of the most pliable.

Only a single atom thick, it has been called the wonder material.

Graphene could change the electronics industry, ushering in flexible devices, supercharged quantum computers, electronic clothing and computers that can interface with the cells in your body.

While the material was discovered a decade ago, it started to gain attention in 2010 when two physicists at the University of Manchester were awarded the Nobel Prize for their experiments with it. More recently, researchers have zeroed in on how to commercially produce graphene.

The American Chemical Society said in 2012 that graphene was discovered to be 200 times stronger than steel and so thin that a single ounce of it could cover 28 football fields. Chinese scientists have created a graphene aerogel, an ultralight material derived from a gel, that is one-seventh the weight of air. A cubic inch of the material could balance on one blade of grass.

"Graphene is one of the few materials in the world that is transparent, conductive and flexible - all at the same time," said Dr. Aravind Vijayaraghavan, a lecturer in nanomaterials at the University of Manchester. "All of these properties together are extremely rare to find in one material."

So what do you do with graphene? Physicists and researchers say that we will soon be able to make electronics that are thinner, faster and cheaper than anything based on silicon, with the option of making them clear and flexible. Long-lasting batteries that can be submerged in water are another possibility.

In 2011, researchers at Northwestern University built a battery that incorporated graphene and silicon, which the university said could lead to a cellphone that "stayed charged for more than a week and recharged in just 15 minutes." In 2012, the American Chemical Society said that advancements in graphene were leading to touch-screen electronics that "could make cellphones as thin as a piece of paper and foldable enough to slip into a pocket."

Vijayaraghavan is building an array of sensors out of graphene - including gas sensors, biosensors and light sensors - that are far smaller than what has come before.

And last week, researchers at the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology, working with Sungkyunkwan University in South Korea, said that Samsung had discovered how to create high-quality graphene on silicon wafers, which could be used for the production of graphene transistors. Samsung said in a statement that these advancements meant it could start making "flexible displays, wearables and other next-generation electronic devices."

Sebastian Anthony, a reporter at Extreme Tech, said that Samsung's breakthrough could end up being the "holy grail of commercial graphene production."

Trying to figure out the best place to invest money in this material...looks like Samsung is leading the way on designing with it, but not sure yet who is selling the material in bulk.

it's going to change the world

[-p.tiddy-]

http://blog.bcm.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/flexible-graphene-phone.jpg

http://ambiently.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fold-screen-smartphone-from-samsung.jpg

http://www.concept-phones.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Samsung_Galaxy_Skin_3.jpg

http://www.iphone4jailbreak.org/wp-content/uploads/samsung-galaxy-s4-skin-2.jpg

http://www.mobile88.com.sg/gen/news/articles/2012/2/11/_211201213502.jpg

http://blogthinkbig.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/samsung-flexible-screen-620x459.jpg

http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim/2011/01/06/Samsung-flexible-AMOLED-display_CES.png


how Samsung is messing with it...but graphene has an infinite amount of uses other than just making cooler phones

[nathanjizzle]

yea ive read about this a while ago. there is a method that you can use to make your own. its a thin, or single layer of carbon atoms in a specific structure.

[Akrazotile]

The material has been mentioned on various astronomy programs as having the potential to revolutionize our interaction with the solar system.

One of the theorized uses was to connect a long strand of it to orbiting space stations and literally create elevators that can take people up and down with a fraction of the fuel costs and other obstacles of current rocket technology.

Should be interesting.


It's amazing to think that there are still people in parts of the world basically living as tribal bushmen while all these technological advances march forward.

Legitimately makes you wonder if the species isn't destined for another genetic split yet again at some point. Seems far fetched now, but don't underestimate the future.

[CeltsGarlic]

The material has been mentioned on various astronomy programs as having the potential to revolutionize our interaction with the solar system.

One of the theorized uses was to connect a long strand of it to orbiting space stations and literally create elevators that can take people up and down with a fraction of the fuel costs and other obstacles of current rocket technology.

Should be interesting.


It's amazing to think that there are still people in parts of the world basically living as tribal bushmen while all these advances march forward.

Legitimately makes you wonder if the species isn't destined for another genetic split yet again at some point. Seems far fetched now, but don't underestimate the future.
And yet, I wouldnt call them as the "inferior ones" so far.

[rezznor]

ive heard about graphene for a few years now. alot of progress has been made on it and it's on the verge of going mainstream.

i recently read a report where some scientists have managed to generate electricity by running salt water over graphene.

http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/04/flowing-salt-water-over-graphene-generates-electricity/


graphene has also been shown to provide great promise in filtering salt water into freshwater.

http://singularityhub.com/2014/03/11/can-graphene-oxide-filters-unlock-our-most-abundant-water-source/

[Akrazotile]

And yet, I wouldnt call them as the "inferior ones" so far.


Nor am I, just pointing out how incredibly wide the gulf is becoming, considering mere millennia ago virtually everyone on Earth had the same basic lifestyle and capabilities. And now look at the dichotomy. It's wild.

[KeylessEntry]

It's amazing to think that there are still people in parts of the world basically living as tribal bushmen while all these technological advances march forward.

Legitimately makes you wonder if the species isn't destined for another genetic split yet again at some point. Seems far fetched now, but don't underestimate the future.

Its not genetic differences that cause some people to live as tribal bushmen and others to live in technologically modern society, its cultural, social, and economic differences.

There are tons of young *tribal bushmen* from places like africa that end up getting adopted to wealthy families in in europe and america and go on to become doctors and scientists. Its not like their genetics change when they get transported into a modern society.

[iamgine]

It's been out for a few years now. Some badminton racket use it as a gimmick. Hopefully we will see graphene products everywhere in the next few years.

[Akrazotile]

Its not genetic differences that cause some people to live as tribal bushmen and others to live in technologically modern society, its cultural, social, and economic differences.

There are tons of young *tribal bushmen* from places like africa that end up getting adopted to wealthy families in in europe and america and go on to become doctors and scientists. Its not like their genetics change when they get transported into a modern society.


:facepalm


That's not what I was saying.


I was pointing out that our intercourse with technology is becoming so intimate that eventually we COULD become genetically distinct from those who are evolving in isolation elsewhere. It may not be long before "designer genetics" become mainstream and parents can choose their child's traits.

The speed of evolution in the modern world is happening MUCH quicker than in remote villages. People in remote villages in Zimbabwe basically have barely changed in the last 1,000 years, whereas life in the developed world is already crazy different than it was 50 years ago.


Maybe in 200 years there won't even be small villages anymore. I'm just saying that if you were to isolate humans in remote regions and then compare them in the future with modern humans who knows how different they might be. Everything in the modern world is becoming virtual, microtized, designed by technology.... and at some point that could include people.

Humans could very well eventually... become digital.

[KeylessEntry]

:facepalm


That's not what I was saying.


I was pointing out that our intercourse with technology is becoming so intimate that eventually we COULD become genetically distinct from those who are evolving in isolation elsewhere. It may not be long before "designer genetics" become mainstream and parents can choose their child's traits.

The speed of evolution in the modern world is happening MUCH quicker than in remote villages. People in remote villages in Zimbabwe basically have barely changed in the last 1,000 years, whereas life in the developed world is already crazy different than it was 50 years ago.


Maybe in 200 years there won't even be small villages anymore. I'm just saying that if you were to isolate humans in remote regions and then compare them in the future with modern humans who knows how different they might be. Everything in the modern world is becoming virtual, microtized, designed by technology.... and at some point that could include people.

Humans could very well eventually... become digital.

it is? source?

i would think that allele frequency is actually changing faster in remote rural areas where birth rates are higher and selection forces are not dulled by medicine and technology. you do know how evolution works right?

[Akrazotile]

it is? source?

i would think that allele frequency is actually changing faster in remote rural areas where birth rates are higher and selection forces are not dulled by medicine and technology. you do know how evolution works right?



Firstly, I meant social/technological evolution. Secondly, even that can have every bit the same impact on evolution as the natural environment.

For instance people in the west are taller due to technological advances in agriculture.

Think about the fact that in metropolitan areas, there is no natural environment to brave and conquer. Thus, the kind of manly aggressiveness that is accepted and required in prairie society becomes an impediment, because naturally combative men are more likely to commit crimes, end up in jail, and not get a chance to copulate. This slowly creates a society of timid, emotionally frail, bleeding heart beta dweebs like yourself. See how that works?

The natural environment is not the only evolutionary catalyst. If only you'd open your mind as wide as you open your vag1na, you'd be able to understand bigger picture concepts.

[KeylessEntry]

:oldlol:

"technological evolution" is faster in the "modern world" REALLY? HOW INSIGHTFUL.


enough with the pseudo intellectual nonsense starface, you clearly have no fvcking clue what you are talking about.

your posts are a lot stronger when you are just doing your typical asshole troll thing.

[Akrazotile]

:oldlol:

"technological evolution" is faster in the "modern world" REALLY? HOW INSIGHTFUL.


enough with the pseudo intellectual nonsense starface, you clearly have no fvcking clue what you are talking about.

your posts are a lot stronger when you are just doing your typical asshole troll thing.


You are the one that jumped up to contend the fact that evolution happens more quickly in the modern world. Now that you've been proven to have minimal reading comprehension and/or weak knowledge of social sciences, you're like "oh, yeah, well duhhh like everybody knows taht."


Don't blame me because you learn with your heart, i.e. "We're all equal, everything the dominant majority group does is wrong, whatever the underdog does is right, let's all be PC, sssshhhhh don't say anything to hurt any feelings, let's be delusional about the competitive aspect of nature, ohmygod ohmygod ohmygod don't hurt any feeeelinggsssss".

While I learn with my head and just call it as it is. You're a product of evolved dandiness. For your own safety, you want to outlaw or bring down any group "above" you in success or in numbers (i.e. the rich, or a christian majority, etc) and make sure you are part of the dominant group (i.e. democrats, atheists, whatever your personal beliefs are). You guise it as "compassion" as if you would ever give 39% of YOUR earnings to help the less fortunate. Yeah, right. Your strawman words like "equality, 'fair share', civil liberties, tolerance" are just indirect methods of taking down people above you through supposedly "noble" means, but really you just want to subjugate the world around you to YOUR whims and beliefs, instead of a different group's. They are not some noble effort to help your fellow man.

You're a delusional little nancy boy bitch. REAL TAWK. In 100 years, I'd probably be thrown into prison just for making fun of you on the internet. One less bully out on the loose to scare your quivering little vaginer, right?

[Akrazotile]

With that said, let's now turn this thread back over to the topic of Graphene.

[KeylessEntry]

jesus tapdancing christ you are a stupid motherfcker. i got better ways to waste my time than argue with an unemployed dropout shoe salesman

[Nick Young]

GOAT discovery:bowdown:

[Akrazotile]

jesus tapdancing christ you are a stupid motherfcker. i got better ways to waste my time than argue with an unemployed dropout shoe salesman


I sold shoes to a lottttttt of women mayne.

None of em were as bitchmade as ju are mayne.

Ju like a lesbian feminist mayne. :oldlol: And ju call yourself a man ju son of a bitch??

[-p.tiddy-]

Graphene Stock Investing: What The Pros Think (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomkonrad/2013/09/18/graphene-stock-investing-what-the-pros-think/)

really good graphene investing info in there...

[Bandito]

Can this stop bullets? Will the next Batman suit design based on this material?

[Nick Young]

Graphene Stock Investing: What The Pros Think (http://www.forbes.com/sites/tomkonrad/2013/09/18/graphene-stock-investing-what-the-pros-think/)

really good graphene investing info in there...
'pro investors' dont know any more then normal people do.

[Shade8780]

If they start using this material in the future for phones, we're gonna look back and laugh at how thick iPhones and Androids were just like those old Nokia bricks.

[-p.tiddy-]

'pro investors' dont know any more then normal people do.
Sometimes they do...I'm sure they know a shit load more about graphene production and research than the average Joe and where to put your money if you are wish to invest in the tech.

what they don't really know though, is what will happen with the stock...

[Nick Young]

The future gonna be like minority report:bowdown:

[Jailblazers7]

Sometimes they do...I'm sure they know a shit load more about graphene production and research than the average Joe and where to put your money if you are wish to invest in the tech.

what they don't really know though, is what will happen with the stock...

Yeah, a professional investor knows a lot more because they spend all of their time following markets/companies. Doesn't mean that they will be able to turn that information into good judgement when valuing the securities.

[9erempiree]

'pro investors' dont know any more then normal people do.

This.

The only thing they know is insider information but as far as knowing or predicting what something does, they have no clue.

[rezznor]

Sometimes they do...I'm sure they know a shit load more about graphene production and research than the average Joe and where to put your money if you are wish to invest in the tech.

what they don't really know though, is what will happen with the stock...
what companies do you suggest besides lockheed and samsung? their prices are already too high, we need to find some smaller up and coming companies to play with.

[ace23]

I don't really see the use for this, but it looks cool.

[-p.tiddy-]

what companies do you suggest besides lockheed and samsung? their prices are already too high, we need to find some smaller up and coming companies to play with.
I'm still doing research on this myself so I don't really have an suggestions of my own but this was in the article I posted:

[QUOTE]Top Stocks

While Morris mentioned three companies he thought might be researching graphene, he was cautious not to predict any near-term measurable benefits. With all of us expecting commercialization timeliness of at least three years, it

[-p.tiddy-]

I don't really see the use for this, but it looks cool.
9 Incredible Uses for Graphene (http://gizmodo.com/5988977/9-incredible-uses-for-graphene)

1. Mega-fast uploads. We're talking a whole terabit in just one second.

2. Plug your phone in for five seconds and it would be all charged up. The downside here is that you won't be able to use a dead phone as an excuse anymore.

3. What if we actually had a clear solution for cleaning up the tainted water near Fukushima? Scientists at Rice say graphene could potentially clump together radioactive waste, making disposal is a breeze.

4. It could improve your tennis game, thanks to special racquets from HEAD that aim to put the weight where it's more useful: in the head and the grip.

5. Water, water everywhere and EVERY drop drinkable. MIT minds have a plan for a graphene filter covered in tiny holes just big enough to let water through and small enough to keep salt out, making salt water safe for consumption.

6. Touchscreens that use graphene as their conductor could be slapped onto plastic rather than glass. That would mean super thin, unbreakable touchscreens and never worrying about shattering your phone ever again.

7. Just a single sheet of graphene could produce headphones that have a frequency response comparable to a pair of Sennheisers, as some scientists at UC Berkeley recently showed us.

8. High-power graphene supercapacitors would make batteries obselete.

9. Graphene could pave the way for bionic devices in living tissues that could be connected directly to your neurons. So people with spinal injuries, for example, could re-learn how to use their limbs.

[Raymone]

Can this stop bullets? Will the next Batman suit design based on this material?

or a real-life bolito wire.

http://www.miscupload.com/upload/898863733072109336333570.gif

[-p.tiddy-]

yeah supposedly it really is the "strongest material in the world"

I guess that means it is stronger than actual diamond...which is amazing

http://engineering.columbia.edu/files/engineering/imagecache/flash_image/flash/images/graphene897.jpg

[Akrazotile]

yeah supposedly it really is the "strongest material in the world"



[Insert Chuck Norris joke]

[KobesFinger]

Could it be used to replace fibre-optic cables?

[-p.tiddy-]

Could it be used to replace fibre-optic cables?
Graphene could deliver Internet 100 times faster (http://www.kurzweilai.net/graphene-could-deliver-internet-100-times-faster)

[QUOTE]The use of graphene in telecommunications could dramatically accelerate Internet speeds by up to a hundred times, according to new research by scientists in the University of Bath

[Burgz V2]

It's amazing to think that there are still people in parts of the world basically living as tribal bushmen while all these technological advances march forward.

Legitimately makes you wonder if the species isn't destined for another genetic split yet again at some point. Seems far fetched now, but don't underestimate the future.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/wtf/3f9870b2da028cc9e39c69ac4f2c533e_original.gif

[shlver]

I see a lot of pop sci websites describing the electrons as "massless" and this misconception has cropped up in some of my discussions with my friends. They are not really massless or relativistic, etc. The electrons in graphene sheets have high mobility because of low dimension because the sheet is only one atom thick. There is no up or down dimension in which the electrons can travel, only a horizontal nuclear landscape of carbon atoms. This is the reason why you see claims of super fast internet, charging your phone in 5 sec, etc.

[iamgine]

There are so many questions! Is it strong enough to withstand impact of a plane crash? Since it's lighter the impact would be smaller too, an ideal material for cars and planes. Will Graphene ever be a commodity product like plastic thus making it very affordable?

[ace23]

9 Incredible Uses for Graphene (http://gizmodo.com/5988977/9-incredible-uses-for-graphene)

1. Mega-fast uploads. We're talking a whole terabit in just one second.

2. Plug your phone in for five seconds and it would be all charged up. The downside here is that you won't be able to use a dead phone as an excuse anymore.

3. What if we actually had a clear solution for cleaning up the tainted water near Fukushima? Scientists at Rice say graphene could potentially clump together radioactive waste, making disposal is a breeze.

4. It could improve your tennis game, thanks to special racquets from HEAD that aim to put the weight where it's more useful: in the head and the grip.

5. Water, water everywhere and EVERY drop drinkable. MIT minds have a plan for a graphene filter covered in tiny holes just big enough to let water through and small enough to keep salt out, making salt water safe for consumption.

6. Touchscreens that use graphene as their conductor could be slapped onto plastic rather than glass. That would mean super thin, unbreakable touchscreens and never worrying about shattering your phone ever again.

7. Just a single sheet of graphene could produce headphones that have a frequency response comparable to a pair of Sennheisers, as some scientists at UC Berkeley recently showed us.

8. High-power graphene supercapacitors would make batteries obselete.

9. Graphene could pave the way for bionic devices in living tissues that could be connected directly to your neurons. So people with spinal injuries, for example, could re-learn how to use their limbs.
Oh. Didn't know about all that shit.

[-p.tiddy-]

There are so many questions! Is it strong enough to withstand impact of a plane crash? Since it's lighter the impact would be smaller too, an ideal material for cars and planes. Will Graphene ever be a commodity product like plastic thus making it very affordable?
From what I read designing planes with this material is already being looked into.

[Budadiiii]

This material is the difference between going extinct and not going extinct, EVER.

Human Beings are now immortal. We will be able to travel everywhere, even to other parallel universes.

So happy

[sundizz]

Honestly, the impact of graphene in 100-150 years will make what we're living like now be akin to cavemen.

Right now we are limited not by thought, but by physical constraints. If we can harness the true capabilities of graphene in terms of size, strength, pliability, durability, energy etc it will be the 2nd 100x factor coming of the industrial revolution.

Things we would be able to do easily:
-Every single person have drinking water
-Support live on earth/energy
-Space travel
-Cawt damn

I'm just trying to time my having money with the first true startup that gets it when it comes to graphene. I'd invest everything I have in it (like angel investor, not invest regularly). It's going to change the world.

[-p.tiddy-]

I'm just trying to time my having money with the first true startup that gets it when it comes to graphene. I'd invest everything I have in it (like angel investor, not invest regularly). It's going to change the world.
the big boys are already working with graphene...unfortunately

it's not like there is going to be a Microsoft of graphene that suddenly appears and anyone owning a dozen shares will be billionaires in 20 years

no one company owns the patent for "Graphene"

there could be small companies that own a certain tech based around Graphene though, and that is what investors should look for...example, the company that creates the graphene devices used to remove salt from salt water, etc

these are two that I am looking at right now:

Aixatron NASD:AIXG
Graftech International NYSE:GTI


I am going to add more too, I would like to create an entire "Graphene portfolio" of a dozen or so companies working with Graphene, both big and small companies. Perhaps I can get one to "hit" big time.

[Akrazotile]

the big boys are already working with graphene...unfortunately

it's not like there is going to be a Microsoft of graphene that suddenly appears and anyone owning a dozen shares will be billionaires in 20 years

no one company owns the patent for "Graphene"

there could be small companies that own a certain tech based around Graphene though, and that is what investors should look for...example, the company that creates the graphene devices used to remove salt from salt water, etc

these are two that I am looking at right now:

Aixatron NASD:AIXG
Graftech International NYSE:GTI


I am going to add more too, I would like to create an entire "Graphene portfolio" of a dozen or so companies working with Graphene, both big and small companies. Perhaps I can get one to "hit" big time.



Pt i didnt wanna let the cat out of the bag too early or anything, but between you and me, I've recently started up my own graphene innovations company, and big things are on the horizon. Because we've know each other all our insidehoops lives I'd like to give you the opportunity to get in early on it. Just go ahead and Paypal me $15,000 and I will give you a very generous stake in my company. In five years it will have changed your life.

[Budadiiii]

Pt i didnt wanna let the cat out of the bag too early or anything, but between you and me, I've recently started up my own graphene innovations company, and big things are on the horizon. Because we've know each other all our insidehoops lives I'd like to give you the opportunity to get in early on it. Just go ahead and Paypal me $15,000 and I will give you a very generous stake in my company. In five years it will have changed your life.
PM me your paypal email so I can send you the money.

[-p.tiddy-]

Pt i didnt wanna let the cat out of the bag too early or anything, but between you and me, I've recently started up my own graphene innovations company, and big things are on the horizon. Because we've know each other all our insidehoops lives I'd like to give you the opportunity to get in early on it. Just go ahead and Paypal me $15,000 and I will give you a very generous stake in my company. In five years it will have changed your life.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01249/PF-boiler-room_1249439c.jpg

[tmacattack33]

mind = blown

[-p.tiddy-]

http://www.graphenetracker.com/images/2014/03/Industry-Flow-Chart-for-Graphene_Burnet.jpg
http://www.graphenetracker.com/invest/

good info here

[KobesFinger]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-27113732