i cant believe Dirk is on the verge of carrying this group of scrubs to 50 wins

[TonyMontana]

50-32 or 49-33 depending on wether they win this current game vs the Grizzlies.

I'm looking at the guys out there vs Dallas and I see a bunch of nonentities. His most valuable teammate looks to be double digit IQ Samuel Dalembert who averages 6 PPG, 6 RPG and plays 20 minutes per game.

And this guy is 35 years old, an age where he should be playing lower minutes and handling the less of the bulk.

Dirk is truly one of the games all-time greats. Top ten all-time and in the company of Duncan, Shaq, LeBron as for player of this century.

[ArbitraryWater]

Agreed, but come on, his 2nd best player is Ellis.. stop doing that :lol

You did the same with LeBron, "2nd most important player is Birdman" lol

[oarabbus]

Dirk :bowdown:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Agreed, but come on, his 2nd best player is Ellis.. stop doing that :lol

You did the same with LeBron, "2nd most important player is Birdman" lol
Ellis and Jose are probably the second/third best on that team.
but he was right, for huge parts of the playoffs, Birdman was the heats second most valuable player, as he at least put up a fight on post defense and rebounding and hit like 19 shots in a row:lol

[Carter_17]

50-32 or 49-33 depending on wether they win this current game vs the Grizzlies.

I'm looking at the guys out there vs Dallas and I see a bunch of nonentities. His most valuable teammate looks to be double digit IQ Samuel Dalembert who averages 6 PPG, 6 RPG and plays 20 minutes per game.

And this guy is 35 years old, an age where he should be playing lower minutes and handling the less of the bulk.

Dirk is truly one of the games all-time greats. Top ten all-time and in the company of Duncan, Shaq, LeBron as for player of this century.


Monta ellis : 19 points , 3.6 rebounts, 1.7 steals and 5.8 assits per game
Dirk: 21.5 points ,6.2 rebounts ( not even 3 more for monta and they got like 1 ft diference in height) 2.7 assits

Monta is covering for dirk in offensive end and dalamebert/wright cover him in the post. So he is carrying shit


Poof: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ellismo01.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nowitdi01.html

[TonyMontana]

Agreed, but come on, his 2nd best player is Ellis.. stop doing that :lol

You did the same with LeBron, "2nd most important player is Birdman" lol

Ellis is nothing special. Easily replaceable. There is a reason noone else wanted him in free agency.

Midget size for a two guard, has absolutely no range on his shot, can't get to the rim at will, average efficiency. He is easily replaceable if you give any random guy his touches.

The worth of a 7 footer who can defend the rim is always worth more than 30 year old midget guards with no three point range.

[ArbitraryWater]

Ellis is nothing special. Easily replaceable. There is a reason noone else wanted him in free agency.

Midget size for a two guard, has absolutely no range on his shot, can't get to the rim at will, average efficiency. He is easily replaceable if you give any random guy his touches.

The worth of a 7 footer who can defend the rim is always worth more than 30 year old midget guards with no three point range.

I get the logic behind all this... but you simply can't apply it on an all star like guard in Ellis, who can carry a team, versus DALEMBERT...

[JohnFreeman]

"Montay Ella have it all"

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4548687/monta-ellis-have-it-all-o.gif

[The Iron Sheik]

the team is definitely doing a little better than expected, but anyone expecting them to be cellar dwellers at the beginning of the season was just an idiot. they had a worse team last year and barely missed the playoffs with dirk being injured for a good portion.

it's definitely a hodgepodge of guys but they have talent. calderon, marion, wright and dalembert are all solid players. and ellis is liable to go for 30+ when he gets going. he's really underrated.

[aboss4real24]

Monte carried dirk old hag ass and n a bunch of bums to 50 wins

[DMAVS41]

Monta ellis : 19 points , 3.6 rebounts, 1.7 steals and 5.8 assits per game
Dirk: 21.5 points ,6.2 rebounts ( not even 3 more for monta and they got like 1 ft diference in height) 2.7 assits

Monta is covering for dirk in offensive end and dalamebert/wright cover him in the post. So he is carrying shit


Poof: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/e/ellismo01.html http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/n/nowitdi01.html


I don't understand posts like this. Now, I want to make it clear that I don't think the Mavs suck outside of Dirk or something, but kind of post is this?

Ellis is covering for Dirk and Dalembert is covering for Dirk? What does that mean?

So Dirk should be winning 50 or so games with even less help?

I've never understood this shit when it comes to Dirk hate...you guys act like Dalembert and Ellis is good or something. That is not special. Ellis has been great this year, but Dalembert has been subpar...even as he's picked up his game.

Jesus...you'd think Dirk played on a stacked team like all the other good players in the league. Lebron, Durant, Paul, Griffin, Curry, Harden, Howard, Paul George, Marc Gasol, Aldridge, Parker, Duncan...I could go on...all those guys have better teams.

Dirk has like maybe the 12th best supporting cast in the league or something.

Come on now...

[TonyMontana]

the team is definitely doing a little better than expected, but anyone expecting them to be cellar dwellers at the beginning of the season was just an idiot. they had a worse team last year and barely missed the playoffs with dirk being injured for a good portion.

it's definitely a hodgepodge of guys but they have talent. calderon, marion, wright and dalembert are all solid players. and ellis is liable to go for 30+ when he gets going. he's really underrated.

Not really.

If the Mavericks franchise was destroyed and all its players deemed free agents the only player who would have a list of immediate suitors would be Dirk. Noone else has value.

The rest of these guys are all a bunch of misfits that were unwanted elsewhere.

[DMAVS41]

Not really.

If the Mavericks franchise was destroyed and all its players deemed free agents the only player who would have a list of immediate suitors would be Dirk. Noone else has value.

The rest of these guys are all a bunch of misfits that were unwanted elsewhere.

Nah,

Carter, Ellis, Wright, Calderon, and Marion would all have value...

[DirkNowitzki41]

35 year old and still better than players like kevin love. amazing

dirk is obviously the best player on the team but give ellis some love, he is an all-star caliber player after all.

[TonyMontana]

Nah,

Carter, Ellis, Wright, Calderon, and Marion would all have value...

you and I must have different definitions of "value".

Sure they would get picked up, but no team is going to be breaking the bank for these caliber of players. Dirk is the only one who would for sure get above 6 million or so on the open market.

I've seen some good plays from Brandon Wright. He looks to be Samuel Dalemerts competition for the 2nd best player on this team.

[The Iron Sheik]

Not really.

If the Mavericks franchise was destroyed and all its players deemed free agents the only player who would have a list of immediate suitors would be Dirk. Noone else has value.

The rest of these guys are all a bunch of misfits that were unwanted elsewhere.

there's much more to players being or not being signed by other teams than how good their name looks on paper. you really think monta ellis wouldn't have a contract? lol. he didn't get signed by other teams because he wanted a longer term deal, and with the new cba (most) teams are a lot more wary of giving guys more than 2-3 years if they're going to be making more than 5-6 million.

everybody in the dallas mavericks starting lineup could get a contract somewhere else. wouldn't be as much money as they would hope, but still a contract nonetheless. there are always tanking teams looking for short term talent.

[DirkNowitzki41]

and what is this about ellis not being sought after from teams?

spurs, lakers, knicks, chicago were all teams interested in him. then other bottom feeders like kings and cats.

[TonyMontana]

there's much more to players being or not being signed by other teams than how good their name looks on paper. you really think monta ellis wouldn't have a contract? lol. he didn't get signed by other teams because he wanted a longer term deal, and with the new cba (most) teams are a lot more wary of giving guys more than 2-3 years if they're going to be making more than 5-6 million.

everybody in the dallas mavericks starting lineup could get a contract somewhere else. wouldn't be as much money as they would hope, but still a contract nonetheless. there are always tanking teams looking for short term talent.

see my post to DMavs.

And from what happened with Monta Ellis in free agency you can see I was right. There is a reason noone wants to sign him to a long-term contract. Because the GMs have the same opinion on him as I do. Players like him are a dime a dozen. Instant offense short guard with mediocre effiency and no three point range. And at 30 years old his athleticism is already diminished and will only get worse. Not an appealing prospects.

[ZoPunde]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/img/2.0/sect/statscube/players/large/monta_ellis.png

Is not a scrub. Averaging 19/6/3.5 on 45% creating a lot of shots for dirk and co....

[Akrazotile]

Agreed, but come on, his 2nd best player is Ellis.. stop doing that :lol

You did the same with LeBron, "2nd most important player is Birdman" lol

This could actually be a legit argument.


"2nd most important player on Dallas is Dalembert" could not. Everyone knows Monta has played like a stud this year.


Also, Marion has been crazy underrated since he left Phoenix because idiots don't realize that players who don't score in volume can still be important.

[ZoPunde]

see my post to DMavs.

And from what happened with Monta Ellis in free agency you can see I was right. There is a reason noone wants to sign him to a long-term contract. Because the GMs have the same opinion on him as I do. Players like him are a dime a dozen. Instant offense short guard with mediocre effiency and no three point range. And at 30 years old his athleticism is already diminished and will only get worse. Not an appealing prospects.

:biggums:

[DMAVS41]

you and I must have different definitions of "value".

Sure they would get picked up, but no team is going to be breaking the bank for these caliber of players. Dirk is the only one who would for sure get above 6 million or so on the open market.

I've seen some good plays from Brandon Wright. He looks to be Samuel Dalemerts competition for the 2nd best player on this team.

Okay...that is just semantics.

You are right...nobody on this team is getting above 6 or 7 million on the open market other than Dirk.

But that doesn't make them a bad group together. Carter has played great on both ends this year. Harris has played great in his role. Calderon, while he sucks defensively, has shot the lights out after a slow start. Ellis has been very good...and he'd definitely get above 6 million from another team after this year....but you may not count that.

Dalembert is not our 2nd best player....you are high if you think that.

[DirkNowitzki41]

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/img/2.0/sect/statscube/players/large/monta_ellis.png

Is not a scrub. Averaging 19/6/3.5 on 45% creating a lot of shots for dirk and co....

yup. Even Dirk said it himself, that his drives opens up everything for the team. So underrated

[TonyMontana]

and what is this about ellis not being sought after from teams?

spurs, lakers, knicks, chicago were all teams interested in him. then other bottom feeders like kings and cats.

they were interested in him if he was willing to play for the minimum or another small amount of money.

Noone else was giving him a big contract. The Mavericks were in a state of desperation as they wanted to get anything they could via free agency to pair with Dirk. Monta took advantage of their predicament.

[Akrazotile]

they were interested in him if he was willing to play for the minimum or another small amount of money.

Noone else was giving him a big contract. The Mavericks were in a state of desperation as they wanted to get anything they could via free agency to pair with Dirk. Monta took advantage of their predicament.


There are a lot of players in this league getting paid more than they should.

Kwame Brown was making 12M/yr at one point. Did that make him a valuable player?


:facepalm

[BlackVVaves]

Okay...that is just semantics.

You are right...nobody on this team is getting above 6 or 7 million on the open market other than Dirk.

But that doesn't make them a bad group together. Carter has played great on both ends this year. Harris has played great in his role. Calderon, while he sucks defensively, has shot the lights out after a slow start. Ellis has been very good...and he'd definitely get above 6 million from another team after this year....but you may not count that.

Dalembert is not our 2nd best player....you are high if you think that.

4/20's quickly approaching :pimp:

[DMAVS41]

yup. Even Dirk said it himself, that his drives opens up everything for the team. So underrated

Yea...Ellis had been awesome this year. So under-rated if someone actually think he hasn't been our clear cut 2nd best player.

I'm all for giving Dirk a lot of credit, but this Mavs team is not terrible at all. Sure, it's flawed, and we have issues, but we are also still really good. We are like somewhere between the 9th and 11th best team in the league imo.

[TonyMontana]

yup. Even Dirk said it himself, that his drives opens up everything for the team. So underrated

What is Dirk going to say?

Say he is overrated and they he blows? Yeah I'm sure that would be of great aid to the Mavericks objective of winning games. Dirk is a nice guy and wants to do what will most help the team win games. When dealing with double digit IQ individuals such as Monta Ellis you have to give constant positive reinforcement/pats on the back.... Or else they will chimp out and get butthurt causing negative friction on the team.


Okay...that is just semantics.

You are right...nobody on this team is getting above 6 or 7 million on the open market other than Dirk.

But that doesn't make them a bad group together. Carter has played great on both ends this year. Harris has played great in his role. Calderon, while he sucks defensively, has shot the lights out after a slow start. Ellis has been very good...and he'd definitely get above 6 million from another team after this year....but you may not count that.

Dalembert is not our 2nd best player....you are high if you think that.

-Carter is absolutely terrible and has been since his time as an elite athlete passed. He's a minumum salary player.

-devin Harris also sucks dick. he used to be a great defender, but now that he has aged we can see that his defensive quickness was pretty much reliant on his youth and athletisicm.

-Shawn Marion licks shitstained asshole. What is his niche? Not a great shooter, not even that quick anymore. Just some old guy with long arms, that isn't even remarkably quick. Sucks

-I actually do like Jose Calderon. Has a nice looking shot that has impressive range. We can throw him in as competition for 2nd best player along with Dalembert and Brandon Wright. Even so this supporting cast speaks volume about Dirks greatness and how much of an impact he makes even at age 35.

[DirkNowitzki41]

What is Dirk going to say?

Say he is overrated and they he blows? Yeah I'm sure that would be of great aid to the Mavericks objective of winning games. Dirk is a nice guy and wants to do what will most help the team win games. When dealing with double digit IQ individuals such as Monta Ellis you have to give constant positive reinforcement/pats on the back.... Or else they will chimp out and get butthurt causing negative friction on the team.


Uhh no. It's not as if the reporters are asking him about Monta. He gushes about him all by himself...

its obvious you have some sort of agenda here

[DMAVS41]

I agree it speaks to Dirk quite a bit that he was able to have a near 50/40/90 season and get this team into the playoffs in a loaded conference, but you are going way too far.

This team is better than the Wolves and the Wolves are going to win like 8 or 9 less games.

Meh...not like this is a 35 win team or something with another star in place of Dirk.

[The Iron Sheik]

see my post to DMavs.

And from what happened with Monta Ellis in free agency you can see I was right. There is a reason noone wants to sign him to a long-term contract. Because the GMs have the same opinion on him as I do. Players like him are a dime a dozen. Instant offense short guard with mediocre effiency and no three point range. And at 30 years old his athleticism is already diminished and will only get worse. Not an appealing prospects.

it's that he isn't a franchise player, didn't want to play in milwaukee, and no gm trying to make a splash in free agency is going to spend up all of their cap on 1 guy unless he's a superstar.

if he wanted less money any gm in the league would take him because it's less risk (injury). he's not an elite guy but to call him worthless is just really...well...stupid on your part.

[Bandito]

Also, Marion has been crazy underrated since he left Phoenix because idiots don't realize that players who don't score in volume can still be important.


Please don't use logic on these morons.

[TonyMontana]

Mavs winning 53-51 at halftime. Close game. Dirk was hobbling a little bit so lets hope hes alright.

Dirk....14 points on 6-9 shooting......+9 when he's on the court

"All-star caliber guard" Monta Ellis.....4 points on 2-7 shooting....-4 when he's on the court..funny considering the majority of his minutes are WITH Dirk. Shows just how much they get killed when Dirk goes to the bench.



I agree it speaks to Dirk quite a bit that he was able to have a near 50/40/90 season and get this team into the playoffs in a loaded conference, but you are going way too far.

This team is better than the Wolves and the Wolves are going to win like 8 or 9 less games.

Meh...not like this is a 35 win team or something with another star in place of Dirk.

Without Dirk this is probably the worst team in the league aside from those obvious teams like the Sixers who arn't even trying.
C- Samuel Dalembert
F- Brandon Wright
F- Shawn Marion
G- Monta Ellis
G- Jose Calderon

holy shit......

[SacJB Shady]

The worth of a 7 footer who can defend the rim is always worth more than 30 year old midget guards with no three point range.


Ellis is not quite 30 yet, he's still 28. Dirk is 35.

[Bandito]

Without Dirk this is probably the worst team in the league aside from those obvious teams like the Sixers who arn't even trying.
C- Samuel Dalembert
F- Brandon Wright
F- Shawn Marion
G- Monta Ellis
G- Jose Calderon

holy shit......
So Dirk team is not stacked. What's new.:confusedshrug:

They still made Lebron choke in 2011 finals and his second best player was a pick of Kidd or Terry:lol

[Marlo_Stanfield]

So Dirk team is not stacked. What's new.:confusedshrug:

They still made Lebron choke in 2011 finals and his second best player was a pick of Kidd or Terry:lol
forgetting tyson chandler ??:facepalm
2011 Mavs were very stacked and Barea was a huge mismatch for the Heat.
Tery,Kidd,Marion,dirk,Chandler,Barea playing great, great defense from Stevenson.
that team was very good, otherwise they wouldnt have benn able to win games with Dirk shooting 41 % in the finals

[SCdac]

"scrubs" :oldlol:

[TonyMontana]

So Dirk team is not stacked. What's new.:confusedshrug:

They still made Lebron choke in 2011 finals and his second best player was a pick of Kidd or Terry:lol

His second best player was Tyson Chandler that year.

The one year of Dirks career where he had a first tier rim protector he won a ring. Would ya look at that. The Mavericks 2nd best run came in 2006 when Dsgana Diop showed up in the playoff series vs SAS where he did a good job of making a nearprime Tim Duncan work for his points. these things are not coincidences.

The inadequate Mavericks management doesn't deserve near the praise it gets. they are simply lucky to have walked into a loyal superstarstar like Dirk who was willing to play there for his entire career. They were irrelevant before Dirk and they will be after Dirk. Cuban talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. For Dirks career he never had the kind of 2nd level star guys like Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, KG have had. Who knows how many rings this guy could have won with proper management.

[Bandito]

forgetting tyson chandler ??:facepalm
2011 Mavs were very stacked and Barea was a huge mismatch for the Heat.
Tery,Kidd,Marion,dirk,Chandler,Barea playing great, great defense from Stevenson.
that team was very good, otherwise they wouldnt have benn able to win games with Dirk shooting 41 % in the finals
The hell were you smoking today? All those people you mention were not even starting material then, some of them are even retired.

That team just played better as team, that's all.

Teamplay > individual play

[Bandito]

His second best player was Tyson Chandler that year.

The one year of Dirks career where he had a first tier rim protector he won a ring. Would ya look at that. The Mavericks 2nd best run came in 2006 when Dsgana Diop showed up in the playoff series vs SAS where he did a good job of making a nearprime Tim Duncan work for his points. these things are not coincidences.

The inadequate Mavericks management doesn't deserve near the praise it gets. they are simply lucky to have walked into a loyal superstarstar like Dirk who was willing to play there for his entire career. They were irrelevant before Dirk and they will be after Dirk. Cuban talks the talk, but doesn't walk the walk. For Dirks career he never had the kind of 2nd level star guys like Kobe, Duncan, Shaq, KG have had. Who knows how many rings this guy could have won with proper management.
I agree but let's not pretend Tyson was elite or anything like that when he was in Dallas. That Mavs team live and died with Dirk. The team though played together almost perfectly with Dirk leading them.

Dirk is a great player, and that team overachieved, that is all.

[Carter_17]

I cant see why you underate so much Ellis. His is a technicaly a wade with less experience in his back. He is clutch , he can play d , he has a beatiful penetration and handling skills and he has the potential to develop a nice 3 point if he works at summer. Tell me a sg who fits all of the above except kobe, wade, harden.

[HoopsFanNumero1]

Ellis just recently scored 37 points against the Suns in a crucial game. "Scrubs"...

[Bandito]

I cant see why you underate so much Ellis. His is a technicaly a wade with less experience in his back. He is clutch , he can play d , he has a beatiful penetration and handling skills and he has the potential to develop a nice 3 point if he works at summer. Tell me a sg who fits all of the above except kobe, wade, harden.
gay!!!!!!:lol

[DirkNowitzki41]

I cant see why you underate so much Ellis. His is a technicaly a wade with less experience in his back. He is clutch , he can play d , he has a beatiful penetration and handling skills and he has the potential to develop a nice 3 point if he works at summer. Tell me a sg who fits all of the above except kobe, wade, harden.

i love monta, but he is not a good defender.

[Carter_17]

also average 3.6 rebounds , 5.8 assists and and 1.7 steals... Replace him with a shooting* guard with better defensive stats than ellis but with his ability to score.

[ZMonkey11]

Everyone says he is wrong, argues anyway.

Stop feeding this troll.

[houston]

dirk did his thang

[tpols]

theyre in the same mold as 2011 minus a defensive anchor.. but ellis has been a better offensive weapon than anyone on that 2011 team was in the regular season.


ISH.. where a player averaging 22/6/3 on 50% shooting is a god and a player averaging 19/6/4 45% is a scrub.:facepalm Dirk also called monta the most explosive player hes ever played with.

[DMAVS41]

theyre in the same mold as 2011 minus a defensive anchor.. plus ellis has been a better offensive weapon than anyone on that 2011 team was in the regular season.


ISH.. where a player averaging 22/6/3 on 50% shooting is a god and a player averaging 19/6/4 is a scrub.:facepalm Dirk also called monta the most explosive player hes ever played with.

Exactly this.

Give this current Mavs team Asik...and if they all got crazy hot...they could absolutely make a run.

Ellis has been great this year. Someone calling him a scrub is a ****ing idiot.

What a regular season for Dirk though. Led the team to 49 wins...put up;

22/6/3 on 49.7 fg / 39.8 from three / 89.9 ft...pretty much 50/40/90...and did so playing 33 minutes a game.

It's really too bad we don't play in the East or aren't playing a team like the Grizzlies in a series that slows the game down. Dirk and the Mavs would do much better against that...against the Spurs, it's just going to be too much chasing around the Spurs both in transition and in the half court with their ball movement...

[ralph_i_el]

50-32 or 49-33 depending on wether they win this current game vs the Grizzlies.

I'm looking at the guys out there vs Dallas and I see a bunch of nonentities. His most valuable teammate looks to be double digit IQ Samuel Dalembert who averages 6 PPG, 6 RPG and plays 20 minutes per game.

And this guy is 35 years old, an age where he should be playing lower minutes and handling the less of the bulk.

Dirk is truly one of the games all-time greats. Top ten all-time and in the company of Duncan, Shaq, LeBron as for player of this century.

Wow what a dummy. Ellis put up a career year, VC is still a really valuable player(floor spacing, D, ball movement), shawn marion is still an all-nba level defender. Jose Calderon is a sniper who takes care of the ball extremely well

[nathanjizzle]

:facepalm ellis is the one that carried the team this season.

[DMAVS41]

:facepalm ellis is the one that carried the team this season.

Dirk was our clear best player and we built everything we did off of him, but that doesn't mean Ellis wasn't fantastic. He absolutely was...Derrick Rose type player....clearly worse than Dirk, but still very good.

[ArbitraryWater]

Dirk was our clear best player and we built everything we did off of him, but that doesn't mean Ellis wasn't fantastic. He absolutely was...Derrick Rose type player....clearly worse than Dirk, but still very good.

:lol :rockon: :cheers:

[ralph_i_el]

:facepalm ellis is the one that carried the team this season.

Playing off of Dirk literally resurrected Ellis' career.

Dirk=floor spacing+ball movement
Calderon=floor spacing+ball movement
Vince Carter=floor spacing+ball movement

Ellis lost a lot of money opting out of his last deal, but coming to Dallas has changed the whole story on him. People don't see him as a low iq chucker anymore because they've finally seen him with a good coach and a team that understands how to play TEAM offense and leverage his strengths.

He went from shooting tons of mid range jumpers to leading the league in drives. Most of that is because of Pick-n-Pop w/ Dirk with all that open space in the paint. B-E-A utiful series about to go down against SA

[DMAVS41]

Playing off of Dirk literally resurrected Ellis' career.

Dirk=floor spacing+ball movement
Calderon=floor spacing+ball movement
Vince Carter=floor spacing+ball movement

Ellis lost a lot of money opting out of his last deal, but coming to Dallas has changed the whole story on him. People don't see him as a low iq chucker anymore because they've finally seen him with a good coach and a team that understands how to play TEAM offense and leverage his strengths.

He went from shooting tons of mid range jumpers to leading the league in drives. Most of that is because of Pick-n-Pop w/ Dirk with all that open space in the paint. B-E-A utiful series about to go down against SA


Honestly I'd say it's less Dirk than it is just not playing on crap teams with crap infrastructure...

I think Ellis grew as a player this year learning how to win and compete all the way through a game, but Dirk didn't make Ellis do anything he wasn't already capable of.

He was just put into a perfect position for him in terms of fit and role....and had a coach that believed in him and supported him.

So many players would benefit from that...can't just credit Dirk or anyone for that. A guy like Ellis could do this shit...he just needed to showcase it...and it's not like he hasn't played well before.

[ralph_i_el]

Honestly I'd say it's less Dirk than it is just not playing on crap teams with crap infrastructure...

I think Ellis grew as a player this year learning how to win and compete all the way through a game, but Dirk didn't make Ellis do anything he wasn't already capable of.

He was just put into a perfect position for him in terms of fit and role....and had a coach that believed in him and supported him.

So many players would benefit from that...can't just credit Dirk or anyone for that. A guy like Ellis could do this shit...he just needed to showcase it...and it's not like he hasn't played well before.

I agree with this. Perfect situation for any dynamic scoring guard.
Dallas just needs a consistent big man defender and this team would be perfectly constructed. Sammy D can't play big minutes now but Dallas should be looking for another guy like him.

[DMAVS41]

I agree with this. Perfect situation for any dynamic scoring guard.
Dallas just needs a consistent big man defender and this team would be perfectly constructed. Sammy D can't play big minutes now but Dallas should be looking for another guy like him.

Yep.

Cuban/Nellie really need to come through in the offseason for a change. I supported them letting Barea and Chandler and Butler go after 11...and still support it, but they've made mistakes since then with odom and Mayo and Kaman...letting Brewer go for no reason (a big mistake nobody talks about imo)

We need a legit center and need to fill out the roster with some young athleticism.

If we had, for example, an Asik/Dalembert combo at center...kept the rest of the team in tact...and added another sg/sf type player...that was kind of a jack of all trades...like a guy in the mold of Deng...we'd be a 55 plus win team next year with a real chance to make a run.

So we aren't that far off assuming we don't see Dirk decline much.

Larkin will also be a nice addition next year as well. I would imagine that will be a big emphasis next year in the regular season. Getting Larking more burn. Really hope we keep Harris though...we need him with the defensive clown Calderon not being able to play in a lot of late game situations defensively.