Hoopz2332
04-17-2014, 11:39 AM
saw this elsewhere
The "30/.300 Club" consists of three individuals in NBA history who had both a 30 PER and .300 WS/48 season in the same regular season. In terms of advanced stats (or at least ones not involving RAPM or some version of it), this is probably about the most exclusive club that exists. Or at least that I am aware of.
First, here are the people in the club. References at the bottom of the post. All figures from Basketball Reference.
Jordan -----> Number of 30/.300 seasons = 2
---------------> 1987-88 --- 31.7 PER --- .308 WS/48 (League MVP)
---------------> 1990-91 --- 31.6 PER --- .321 WS/48 (League MVP)
LeBron -----> Number of 30/.300 seasons = 2
---------------> 2008-09 --- 31.7 PER --- .318 WS/48 (League MVP)
---------------> 2012-13 --- 31.6 PER --- .322 WS/48 (League MVP)
Wilt --------> Number of 30/.300 seasons = 1
---------------> 1963-64 --- 31.6 PER --- .325 WS/48 (2nd in MVP voting to Oscar Robertson)
Durant in 2013-14 was right on the verge of the mark. How close was he? This close:
PER --------> 29.8 (29.90 on ESPN)
WS/48 ----> .295
Durant was over both 30 and .300, I believe, with two games remaining in the regular season.
In examining the historical data, we see another figure who had just about the exact same "almost there" stats only a few seasons ago.
Chris Paul 2008-09
PER --------> 29.96
WS/48 ----> .293
So when looking for perhaps the most analogous season to the one Durant just put up -- clearly a towering historical season, way up the charts for best individual season in NBA history, IMO -- Chris Paul's 2008-09 campaign may be the most similar, in terms of individual advanced stats. Durant's Thunder, however, won 10 more games than did Paul's 2008-09 Hornets (59 wins vs 49 wins). Durant also played in 3 more games than did Paul in 2008-09 (81 vs 78). Had Durant played in just 78 games this year, I believe he would have been in the 30/.300 club right now.
There is no reason to think Durant won't be in the same statistical neighborhood next year, and for the foreseeable future. So if he were to join the 30/.300 next season, I would not be surprised at all.
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For those wondering how Oscar Robertson beat out Wilt Chamberlain for the MVP vote in 1963-64, it was because (I'm guessing) Robertson averaged 31.4/9.9/11.0. Yes, AVERAGED that. Roberston averaged 30.8/12.5/11.4 (the "triple double average" season) in 1961-62 and came in 3rd in the MVP voting behind Bill Russell and Wilt. So I'm guessing the voters may have felt it was Robertson's turn in 1963-64. Also, Roberston's Cincinnati Royals (55-25) won 7 more games than did Chamberlain's San Francisco Warriors (48-32) in 1963-64.
The "30/.300 Club" consists of three individuals in NBA history who had both a 30 PER and .300 WS/48 season in the same regular season. In terms of advanced stats (or at least ones not involving RAPM or some version of it), this is probably about the most exclusive club that exists. Or at least that I am aware of.
First, here are the people in the club. References at the bottom of the post. All figures from Basketball Reference.
Jordan -----> Number of 30/.300 seasons = 2
---------------> 1987-88 --- 31.7 PER --- .308 WS/48 (League MVP)
---------------> 1990-91 --- 31.6 PER --- .321 WS/48 (League MVP)
LeBron -----> Number of 30/.300 seasons = 2
---------------> 2008-09 --- 31.7 PER --- .318 WS/48 (League MVP)
---------------> 2012-13 --- 31.6 PER --- .322 WS/48 (League MVP)
Wilt --------> Number of 30/.300 seasons = 1
---------------> 1963-64 --- 31.6 PER --- .325 WS/48 (2nd in MVP voting to Oscar Robertson)
Durant in 2013-14 was right on the verge of the mark. How close was he? This close:
PER --------> 29.8 (29.90 on ESPN)
WS/48 ----> .295
Durant was over both 30 and .300, I believe, with two games remaining in the regular season.
In examining the historical data, we see another figure who had just about the exact same "almost there" stats only a few seasons ago.
Chris Paul 2008-09
PER --------> 29.96
WS/48 ----> .293
So when looking for perhaps the most analogous season to the one Durant just put up -- clearly a towering historical season, way up the charts for best individual season in NBA history, IMO -- Chris Paul's 2008-09 campaign may be the most similar, in terms of individual advanced stats. Durant's Thunder, however, won 10 more games than did Paul's 2008-09 Hornets (59 wins vs 49 wins). Durant also played in 3 more games than did Paul in 2008-09 (81 vs 78). Had Durant played in just 78 games this year, I believe he would have been in the 30/.300 club right now.
There is no reason to think Durant won't be in the same statistical neighborhood next year, and for the foreseeable future. So if he were to join the 30/.300 next season, I would not be surprised at all.
***
For those wondering how Oscar Robertson beat out Wilt Chamberlain for the MVP vote in 1963-64, it was because (I'm guessing) Robertson averaged 31.4/9.9/11.0. Yes, AVERAGED that. Roberston averaged 30.8/12.5/11.4 (the "triple double average" season) in 1961-62 and came in 3rd in the MVP voting behind Bill Russell and Wilt. So I'm guessing the voters may have felt it was Robertson's turn in 1963-64. Also, Roberston's Cincinnati Royals (55-25) won 7 more games than did Chamberlain's San Francisco Warriors (48-32) in 1963-64.