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rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:14 PM
Carmelo is currently the most selfish NBA player. He isn't efficient he can't play defense he stops ball movement.

Milbuck
04-17-2014, 06:18 PM
It's absurd how little you know about the game.

SamuraiSWISH
04-17-2014, 06:20 PM
Melo on the Bulls makes them a title contender. Stunned at the lack of basketball knowledge from OP.

navy
04-17-2014, 06:21 PM
Melo on the Bulls makes them a title contender. Stunned at the lack of basketball knowledge from OP.
Most likely. Unless they have to give up key pieces.

nightprowler10
04-17-2014, 06:22 PM
Carmelo is currently the most selfish NBA player. He isn't efficient he can't play defense he stops ball movement.
Anything else you wanna parrot from your local radio station?

rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:23 PM
Anything else you wanna parrot from your local radio station?

I watched Melo play for 11 years this man only cares about himself

Smook A.
04-17-2014, 06:25 PM
Coach Thibs is basically a poor man's Popovich, and that's a huge compliment.

He can turn any team into a legit contender. I mean look at this year's Bulls. WITHOUT former MVP, Derrick Rose for 95% of the season. They still got to the 4th seed. Hey, I know the East is pretty weak but still. Not to mention, the Bulls were one of lowest scoring teams in the NBA. Their elite defense is the reason why they were so successful in the season.

Now imagine adding one of the best offensive players in the game, Carmelo Anthony. Lordddd... That would make LeBron scared. The Bulls just need offense. Melo is perfect for that team. It would be a match made in Heaven

nightprowler10
04-17-2014, 06:26 PM
I've watched him for a long time too. I used to love watching the Nuggz in general. He's not selfish, he's just not a leader and he's been forced to be one.

rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:27 PM
He won't accomplish a championship

nightprowler10
04-17-2014, 06:29 PM
He won't accomplish a championship
Maybe not. But he'll give us the offense we need if Thibs can get him to buy into the Bulls system. It's definitely a risk worth taking.

Milbuck
04-17-2014, 06:31 PM
Maybe not. But he'll give us the offense we need if Thibs can get him to buy into the Bulls system. It's definitely a risk worth taking.
That's the thing, I don't see how it's a risk at all. Unless you guys absolutely gut your roster (like giving up Taj, Mirotic, Butler, etc) to get Melo, I don't see how you guys wouldn't get better. It's almost a guarantee that a healthy Rose-Butler-Melo-Noah core with Thibs coaching would be a contender.

TheMan
04-17-2014, 06:32 PM
Coach Thibs is basically a poor man's Popovich, and that's a huge compliment.

He can turn any team into a legit contender. I mean look at this year's Bulls. WITHOUT former MVP, Derrick Rose for 95% of the season. They still got to the 4th seed. Hey, I know the East is pretty weak but still. Not to mention, the Bulls were one of lowest scoring teams in the NBA. Their elite defense is the reason why they were so successful in the season.

Now imagine adding one of the best offensive players in the game, Carmelo Anthony. Lordddd... That would make LeBron scared. The Bulls just need offense. Melo is perfect for that team. It would be a match made in Heaven
Nah, Bronzey would dump that sinking ship in Miami, take a huge paycut and join the Bulls to chase rings.

I wouldn't get mad, doe:pimp:

rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:33 PM
Coach Thibs is basically a poor man's Popovich, and that's a huge compliment.

He can turn any team into a legit contender. I mean look at this year's Bulls. WITHOUT former MVP, Derrick Rose for 95% of the season. They still got to the 4th seed. Hey, I know the East is pretty weak but still. Not to mention, the Bulls were one of lowest scoring teams in the NBA. Their elite defense is the reason why they were so successful in the season.

Now imagine adding one of the best offensive players in the game, Carmelo Anthony. Lordddd... That would make LeBron scared. The Bulls just need offense. Melo is perfect for that team. It would be a match made in Heaven

Volume players like melo won't have a positive impact especially ones that don't play defense or distribute

rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:34 PM
Maybe not. But he'll give us the offense we need if Thibs can get him to buy into the Bulls system. It's definitely a risk worth taking.

Whats the point you just want him there to chuck shots and not accomplish the only goal

NumberSix
04-17-2014, 06:35 PM
Nobody is going to a team with a player sitting on the bench eating up half the cap (Rose, Kobe).

rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:37 PM
That's the thing, I don't see how it's a risk at all. Unless you guys absolutely gut your roster (like giving up Taj, Mirotic, Butler, etc) to get Melo, I don't see how you guys wouldn't get better. It's almost a guarantee that a healthy Rose-Butler-Melo-Noah core with Thibs coaching would be a contender.

lol how would rose and melo work even if rose is healthy are you crazy. Besides his career as a all star is over

Andrei89
04-17-2014, 06:38 PM
Carmelo on the Bulls make them instant contenders. Imagine this defensive Bulls team with a guy that can put up 25+ points a night. Carmelo is one of the best offensive players in the NBA, that team would be scary.

nathanjizzle
04-17-2014, 06:38 PM
melo isnt a leader. being on the bulls with d rose who is a leader would make the bulls the number 1 contender.

Smook A.
04-17-2014, 06:42 PM
lol how would rose and melo work even if rose is healthy are you crazy. Besides his career as an all star is over
You ain't God, homie.

Lolz just messin with you. I think D-Rose will be an all-star again, one day.

rlsmooth775
04-17-2014, 06:42 PM
Carmelo on the Bulls make them instant contenders. Imagine this defensive Bulls team with a guy that can put up 25+ points a night. Carmelo is one of the best offensive players in the NBA, that team would be scary.

They won't accomplish anything and getting 25 on 20 shots is not going to have a positive impact

Keno
04-17-2014, 06:50 PM
melo isnt a leader. being on the bulls with d rose who is a leader would make the bulls the number 1 contender.

d rose, a leader? you mean cheerleading?

nathanjizzle
04-17-2014, 06:54 PM
d rose, a leader? you mean cheerleading?

no, i mean rose leading the bulls to 2 best record seasons in a row.

sketchy
04-17-2014, 07:17 PM
So much ignorance. Carmelo is not a "selfish" player. Remember when he was in Denver and being utilized correctly? He was taking less shots, was involved in play on and off ball and happily doing so. The "system" they're running in NY is literally giving the ball to Melo every single chance they get and hoping he makes something happen. Something tells me that Thibs, a phenomenal and smart coach, would play Melo similar to how he played in Denver thus giving Chicago a really good shot to play for a championship.

Keno
04-17-2014, 07:21 PM
no, i mean rose leading the bulls to 2 best record seasons in a row.

oh, in that case then i'm sorry to burst your bubble but, it wasn't rose who was leading the bulls it was the system that coach thibs as implemented.

Levity
04-17-2014, 07:33 PM
gotta love the quality of threads on ISH this past year.

It's like listening middle school kids argue on the playground.

sketchy
04-17-2014, 07:37 PM
gotta love the quality of threads on ISH this past year.

It's like listening middle school kids argue on the playground.
Basically this...

Blue&Orange
04-17-2014, 07:39 PM
this thread got "Dirk is a loser and will never win anything" written all over, specially is Melo signs with the Bulls.

Le Shaqtus
04-17-2014, 07:41 PM
Unless Chicago guts their roster to get him, the Bulls will only get better with Melo on the team.

nathanjizzle
04-17-2014, 08:00 PM
oh, in that case then i'm sorry to burst your bubble but, it wasn't rose who was leading the bulls it was the system that coach thibs as implemented.

oh, sorry to burst your bubble but the bulls never got close to being the best record in the league without rose. go figure. must be the system then

Keno
04-17-2014, 08:25 PM
oh, sorry to burst your bubble but the bulls never got close to being the best record in the league without rose. go figure. must be the system then

rose with vinny del negro (2010): 41-41
rose with the same core with thibs (2011): 62-20

anything else? oh, unless you think carlos boozer was the real leader, then feel free to be my guest.

Myth
04-17-2014, 09:27 PM
He may not be selfish, but he is a ball movement stopper. He loves the triple threat position way too much. Jab stepping forever allows defenses to get set, which makes winning series after series in the playoffs very difficult.

secund2nun
04-17-2014, 10:16 PM
Anything else you wanna parrot from your local radio station?

Actually it's the other way around. Anyone who thinks Melo is a superstar is parroting from the media.

Melo is overrated.

secund2nun
04-17-2014, 10:35 PM
this thread got "Dirk is a loser and will never win anything" written all over, specially is Melo signs with the Bulls.

Dirk is and was 1000X better than Melo ever was.

Melo is a loser who players loser ball period. His scoring is overrated (scoring 30 points on 24 shots is not productive), his defense his trash, he is a ball hog and plays ISO ball and he will take up a huge percent of a team's cap room.

TheMan
04-17-2014, 10:42 PM
rose with vinny del negro (2010): 41-41
rose with the same core with thibs (2011): 62-20

anything else? oh, unless you think carlos boozer was the real leader, then feel free to be my guest.
Explain why they haven't got close to 60 wins since Rose went down? Dat system, doe :rolleyes:

You're gonna have to take the L on this one and move on, champ.

bizil
04-17-2014, 11:26 PM
Looking at ALL of the legendary perimeter players of all time at SG and SF, how many of them were great scorers, great passers, great defenders, and great rebounders (for a perimeter player) in one?:

MJ
Bron
Kobe
West
Wade
Hondo

There might be more or guys that are close, but these six standout to me. And at SF, point forward type skills are a bonus NOT a premium asset. The guys like Bron, Pippen, Barry, and Bird with have PG level IQ and passing ability. Melo in ANY given season can be the best scoring AND rebounding SF in the world. And scoring skillset wise, he's as dangerous as any SF EVER. He's up there with Bird, Durant, Pierce, Barry, scoring skillset wise. He might not be your cup of tea, but Melo's clearly a superstar AND clearly an HOF level talent. All that's left is to see how far he gets on the top 10 GOAT SF ladder.

Put him on the Bulls and that's instant title contender. D Rose doesn't have to come back 100%. With the Bulls coaching and defense to anchor the scoring of Melo and Rose, that's a recipe for a title contender year in and year out.

The Magics
04-18-2014, 12:09 AM
Explain why they haven't got close to 60 wins since Rose went down? Dat system, doe :rolleyes:

You're gonna have to take the L on this one and move on, champ.

Damn, these arguments would be a lot easier if team success could be attributed to more than one individual. Imagine if both Rose and Thibs could contribute to the Bulls winning, at the same time. ISH would be a much simpler place...

Dengness9
04-18-2014, 12:14 AM
Nobody is going to a team with a player sitting on the bench eating up half the cap (Rose, Kobe).


Bulls a have team for Melo right now regardless of Rose. If anything, a healthy Rose only further solidifies them as contenders and maybe even favorites.



Lakers have jack shit. We'll see if that changes this summer w/ a top pick and FA.

CHi1PriDe
04-18-2014, 12:24 AM
rose with vinny del negro (2010): 41-41
rose with the same core with thibs (2011): 62-20

anything else? oh, unless you think carlos boozer was the real leader, then feel free to be my guest.

Rose in his rookie year brought the bulls to the playoffs for the first time in how many years. Epic 7 game series against the defending champs.

disel
04-18-2014, 04:27 AM
Once morey again turns crap into cacke and rapes another team into taking lin's bloated deal and asik is gone via a trade as well, melo will be going to houston.Morey's only mistake has been white and signing Jeremy disaster and he will right those wrongs.