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ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 07:59 PM
Maybe this is just cause I grew up on DBZ and Frieza was the first true super villain of the show, but was Goku vs Frieza the GOAT anime fight? It had everything. The storytelling was superb, especially before the fight. Goku took so f*ckin long to reach Namek and tension was built so f*ckin high. When Goku actually touched down in Namek and wiped out the Ginyu Force that Vegeta, Gohan and Krillan had been having so much trouble with, it was a awesome moment.

The actual fight with Frieza was after Vegeta's death. Vegeta's empassioned speech about how Frieza wiped out their once feared race, and how Goku should forget about his softness and kill Frieza with no hesitation. When the great evil Vegeta started crying and begging Goku, it was just :cry:

The fight itself was epic. Back and forth, you really had no idea what was going to happen. The part where they thought they had won and they finally began celebrating and laughing, it was real emotional. Then suddenly Frieza is alive and he kills Krillin by exploding his body. That was crazy.

And then of course one of the most epic parts of anime history when Goku goes batshit crazy and turns into a Super Saiyan, and dominates Frieza. Frieza getting caught with his own destructo disc and getting sliced in half, and then continuing the fight for another 5 episodes was :wtf: That nikka fought with one arm and no legs for another few hours :oldlol:

Frieza resignation to failure and his desperate final attempt to win by destroying Namek was epic, as Goku obliterated him and raced to get off Namek in time. The fact that they both a exploded planet (and in Friezas case being split into a dozen pieces and floating in space) was amazing.

GOAT Fight :rockon:

Batz
04-17-2014, 08:01 PM
Probably the ****in' longest yeah.

oarabbus
04-17-2014, 08:07 PM
Princess Mononoke

TheReal Kendall
04-17-2014, 08:09 PM
Aizen vs All of Gotei 13 and Ichigo

ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 08:15 PM
I think in the future people will acknowledge how great of a fight it was. It was long as hell, but if you really paid attention it was extremely well done. This fight is very underrated. People often say the protagonist is the driving factor behind the success of a tv show, but to be honest without a great antagonist it will never reach its full potential.

Dragonball Z really exploded in popularity during the time when Frieza was the main villain. You could say the Frieza saga MADE Dragonball Z.

http://th09.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2012/190/6/2/wallpaper_goku_vs_frieza_by_dony910-d56l8w0.jpg

Suguru101
04-17-2014, 08:28 PM
In terms of storytelling ang hype... Probably yes. Frieza was also a well done villain.

As far as the fighting itself? No.

In terms of pure combat, the Goku vs Perfect Cell is the best... Followed by Majin Vegeta vs Goku.

christian1923
04-17-2014, 08:31 PM
GOAT cartoon

Rocketswin2013
04-17-2014, 08:35 PM
Definitely one of the GOAT's.....


But Omega Shenron vs DB had so much potential and it sucked monkey ass. As a matter of fact DBGT ruined the entire work for me.

Marlo_Stanfield
04-17-2014, 08:47 PM
Cell vs Gohan was perfect. teen Gohan was the greatest character ever, maybe together with Vegeta. he was just so badass and pure of heart.
they way he snapped and destroyed cell and his kids only to have his own father killed and Cell come back stronger then ever.
then in the end won by pure will with Gokus help and Vegeta finally getting over himself.
imo Vegeta should have ended the fight tho and turn into SSJ2 too, after Trunks was hurt by Frieza. he snapped the fck out, fought for someone else for the first time... and made zero demage:facepalm
Toriyama just hates Vegeta so much, thats the only bad thing about DBZ:coleman:

The-Legend-24
04-17-2014, 08:49 PM
Probably the ****in' longest yeah.
I read Toriyama planned on ending it with Goku beating Frieza.

But the sudden surge in popularity resulted in the Android/Cell saga and then the Buu saga. Maybe that's why 5 minutes took like 7 episodes. :oldlol: He was probably brainstorming the next saga.

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 08:50 PM
Not even top 10 :roll: :roll: Just stop. TBH Taiga vs. Sumire is better and Toradora isn't even a fighting show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5wRPeQlnU

TheReal Kendall
04-17-2014, 08:52 PM
Not even top 10 :roll: :roll: Just stop. TBH Taiga vs. Sumire is better and Toradora isn't even a fighting show.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5wRPeQlnU

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/mj-laughing.gif

The-Legend-24
04-17-2014, 08:54 PM
Still doe, Majin Vegeta vs Goku was GOAT as fvck too.

Bandito
04-17-2014, 08:56 PM
Jameer stop trolling.

ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 08:56 PM
Cell vs Gohan was perfect. teen Gohan was the greatest character ever, maybe together with Vegeta. he was just so badass and pure of heart.
they way he snapped and destroyed cell and his kids only to have his own father killed and Cell come back stronger then ever.
then in the end won by pure will with Gokus help and Vegeta finally getting over himself.
imo Vegeta should have ended the fight tho and turn into SSJ2 too, after Trunks was hurt by Frieza. he snapped the fck out, fought for someone else for the first time... and made zero demage:facepalm
Toriyama just hates Vegeta so much, thats the only bad thing about DBZ:coleman:

You know Goku was actually meant to stay dead and Gohan was meant to take over as the main good guy on the show. But Goku was too popular so that was scrapped and Goku was brought back to kill Buu instead, and Gohan was relegated to the second tier of DBZ fighters again with the likes of Krillin and Piccolo.

Suguru101
04-17-2014, 09:05 PM
Still doe, Majin Vegeta vs Goku was GOAT as fvck too.

Yeah, Majin Vegeta vs Goku and Perfect Cell vs Goku are the two best DBz fights.

As far as overall anime? Best fights i have seen are:

In Saint Seiya:

Cancer Gold Saint vs The 4 Gods of Sleep.
Taurus Gold Saint vs Kagaho
Virgo Gold Saint vs Ikki


In Fate Stay Knight:

Saber vs Bersek


FF7 Advent Children:

Sephiroth vs Cloud

KyleKong
04-17-2014, 09:05 PM
Still doe, Majin Vegeta vs Goku was GOAT as fvck too.

This.

And Broly Vs Everyone in his movie.

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 09:07 PM
Bout to post 10 fights that are better. Everyone get ready for this shit.

TheReal Kendall
04-17-2014, 09:08 PM
One Piece: Luffy vs Lucci

Bandito
04-17-2014, 09:11 PM
That Cloud vs Sephiroth was just epic as f*ck.

Bandito
04-17-2014, 09:12 PM
Simon and Kamina where Kamina dies was epic as f*ck too.

ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 09:17 PM
Bout to post 10 fights that are better. Everyone get ready for this shit.

You are so pathetic. You already said you never watched DBZ, so kindly gtfo. DBZ shits on every piece of shit schoolgirl anime you watch and is 1000x more popular and you cant handle it. Son Goku living rent free in your head.

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 09:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5wRPeQlnU
Taiga vs. Sumire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l__YXXkdpi8
Gurren Lagann Spoilers: the fight when Kamina dies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpe15cS05L8
Simon vs. Lord Genome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5NiP8ymnmU
Rock Lee vs. Gaara

ShinSekai Yori episodes 22-25

Attack on Titan finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR3ZpnRFiVc

Attack on Titan has multiple fight scenes that are >>>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3dT8oK7y80
ATLA Aang vs. Ozai

Toaru Majutsu no Index
Accerlerator vs. Touma/Misaka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BYTW91-Czo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6k1CopF5Bk

Suguru101
04-17-2014, 09:20 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du5wRPeQlnU
Taiga vs. Sumire

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l__YXXkdpi8
Gurren Lagann Spoilers: the fight when Kamina dies

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpe15cS05L8
Simon vs. Lord Genome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5NiP8ymnmU
Rock Lee vs. Gaara

ShinSekai Yori episodes 22-25

Attack on Titan finale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR3ZpnRFiVc

Attack on Titan has multiple fight scenes that are >>>>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3dT8oK7y80
ATLA Aang vs. Ozai

Toaru Majutsu no Index
Accerlerator vs. Touma/Misaka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BYTW91-Czo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6k1CopF5Bk

You haven't seen Saint Seiya? Or Fate/Stay Night?

Attack on Titan's fights were good, but not amazing. Female Titan was cool though.

Find out about Saint Seiya Lost Canvas: the Kagaho vs Taurus Gold Saint fight.

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 09:20 PM
You are so pathetic. You already said you never watched DBZ, so kindly gtfo. DBZ shits on every piece of shit schoolgirl anime you watch and is 1000x more popular and you cant handle it. Son Goku living rent free in your head.
Outside of DBZ how many anime have you watched? 0. How can you call it the best when you've seen nothing? It's like if I watched my first game of hockey and it went into OT and I called it the best game of alltime. Moron.

ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 09:26 PM
Outside of DBZ how many anime have you watched? 0. How can you call it the best when you've seen nothing? It's like if I watched my first game of hockey and it went into OT and I called it the best game of alltime. Moron.

How the **** are you telling me about what anime I have watched? I have watched DBZ as well as all the current top anime (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, etc.) I have also seen less obvious anime like Code Geass R1 and R2, Death Note, Tekkonkinkreet, FFAC, and a bunch more. Get the f*ck outta here with that shit. Go watch DBZ son, it might help you grow balls.

Suguru101
04-17-2014, 09:27 PM
Outside of DBZ how many anime have you watched? 0. How can you call it the best when you've seen nothing? It's like if I watched my first game of hockey and it went into OT and I called it the best game of alltime. Moron.

Just as he can't say its the best ever without seeing other anime and comparing... You can't say its worst than something if you really haven't seen it. Both on the same boat. :confusedshrug:

christian1923
04-17-2014, 09:27 PM
Never seen DBZ? Oh boy... I feel bad for kids born 95 and after

Trollsmasher
04-17-2014, 09:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmGIvZmthPM

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 09:35 PM
How the **** are you telling me about what anime I have watched? I have watched DBZ as well as all the current top anime (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, etc.) I have also seen less obvious anime like Code Geass R1 and R2, Death Note, Tekkonkinkreet, FFAC, and a bunch more. Get the f*ck outta here with that shit. Go watch DBZ son, it might help you grow balls.
Just stop. You are making yourself look like a ****ing joke. It's pathetic.

ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 09:39 PM
Just stop. You are making yourself look like a ****ing joke. It's pathetic.

:roll: My friend, are you okay? Are you alright in the head?

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 09:49 PM
"I have watched Naruto, DBZ, and One Piece, so my knowledge of anime is very extensive!!!!!"

ForeverHeat
04-17-2014, 09:54 PM
"I have watched Naruto, DBZ, and One Piece, so my knowledge of anime is very extensive!!!!!"

:oldlol: You know damn well how much anime I have watched, stop scraping the barrel for comebacks. Your done kid, just take the L and come back another day.

Batz
04-17-2014, 10:09 PM
I read Toriyama planned on ending it with Goku beating Frieza.

But the sudden surge in popularity resulted in the Android/Cell saga and then the Buu saga. Maybe that's why 5 minutes took like 7 episodes. :oldlol: He was probably brainstorming the next saga.
That is somewhat the case yes. The saga was meant to end with Namek exploding. Frieza dead, and Goku's existence a mystery. And then hit the surge in popularity, a huge demand for another saga, and up came the aftermath.

You know Goku was actually meant to stay dead and Gohan was meant to take over as the main good guy on the show. But Goku was too popular so that was scrapped and Goku was brought back to kill Buu instead, and Gohan was relegated to the second tier of DBZ fighters again with the likes of Krillin and Piccolo.
This is also true. Dragon Ball Z was meant to be centralized around Gohan being the ultimate hero. But the overpowering fan favoritism for Goku pretty much forced Akira Toriyama to the other way.

I think in the future people will acknowledge how great of a fight it was. It was long as hell, but if you really paid attention it was extremely well done. This fight is very underrated. People often say the protagonist is the driving factor behind the success of a tv show, but to be honest without a great antagonist it will never reach its full potential.

Dragonball Z really exploded in popularity during the time when Frieza was the main villain. You could say the Frieza saga MADE Dragonball Z.

I agree that the Frieza saga is the true roots of DBZs popularity, but it wasn't the case of the antagonist Frieza. It was Goku. The anticipation, waiting for him to heal to face Freiza, the fierce confrontation, the spirit bomb that couldn't do the trick (yeah I put my hand up for that shit), and then the breakdown into a super saiyan, to the 5 minutes to save it all. That poetic sequence is what made Dragon Ball Z. And I'll always have a place for it in my metaphorical heart. :applause:

zoom17
04-17-2014, 10:10 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-0T0IOaNL210/UW9HURGafrI/AAAAAAAAAZ0/-2jCcNHnI8E/w506-h750/dbz%2Bvegeta%2Bvs%2Bgoku.gif

mr.big35
04-17-2014, 10:28 PM
This is a GOAT fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VrQKATvyuw
spike vs mad pierrot

Micku
04-17-2014, 10:36 PM
Sword of the Stranger had the best fights of any anime imo. The last fight of that anime kicked ass. Best anime fight I ever seen. The music rocked too. I love that anime.

BasedTom
04-17-2014, 10:40 PM
It's definitely one of the most important, especially for this generation. Seriously, pretty much everyone loved DBZ. american and european kids, south american kids, black kids. People usually shit on anime fans, but dragon ball is the most notable exception.

The term "saga" is appropriate because it's one of the closest things we have to the Epic folk legends of Old

By no means am I saying that Dragon Ball (Z) is the greatest anime of all time or anything like that. But holy shit was it amazing

Burgz V2
04-17-2014, 10:41 PM
naruto vs. sasuke at the end of part 1 was pretty good imo

zoom17
04-17-2014, 10:46 PM
naruto vs. sasuke at the end of part 1 was pretty good imo

naruto:roll: :roll: :roll:

Le Shaqtus
04-17-2014, 10:49 PM
Samurai Champloo has the best fights for me personally.

Sword of the stranger, Sword Art Online, Fullmetal Alchemist an Attack on Titan all have awesome ones too.

Never liked DBZ.

Bandito
04-17-2014, 10:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmGIvZmthPM
Damn man you just brought out my childhood:applause:

Used to love this anime.

Bandito
04-17-2014, 10:56 PM
Samurai Champloo has the best fights for me personally.

Sword of the stranger, Sword Art Online, Fullmetal Alchemist an Attack on Titan all have awesome ones too.

Never liked DBZ.
I agree with you too. I like DBZ but I don't put it on a pedestal either. It was enjoyable but it's not even on my top 10.

mr.big35
04-17-2014, 10:57 PM
Samurai Champloo has the best fights for me personally.

Sword of the stranger, Sword Art Online, Fullmetal Alchemist an Attack on Titan all have awesome ones too.

Never liked DBZ.

you should check out cowboy bebop fights they are awesome.

Graviton
04-17-2014, 10:59 PM
No anime with overpowered dumbasses that just yell and throw energy attacks at each other can have good fights.

Best fights are the ones fought by mere humans that can die at any moment, anime with swords especially. Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Shigurui, Basilisk, Samurai 7, Full Metal Alchemist all have great fights.

zoom17
04-17-2014, 11:00 PM
No anime with overpowered dumbasses that just yell and throw energy attacks at each other can have good fights.

Best fights are the ones fought by mere humans that can die at any moment, anime with swords especially. Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Shigurui, Basilisk, Samurai 7, Full Metal Alchemist all have great fights.

:applause:

mr.big35
04-17-2014, 11:01 PM
No anime with overpowered dumbasses that just yell and throw energy attacks at each other can have good fights.

Best fights are the ones fought by mere humans that can die at any moment, anime with swords especially. Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Shigurui, Basilisk, Samurai 7, Full Metal Alchemist all have great fights.

this and dbz death seem so cheap that they can wish them back with the dragon balls.

Micku
04-17-2014, 11:01 PM
naruto:roll: :roll: :roll:

Naruto had some good fights in part 1. Part 2 had some good fights too.

The anime and manga went downhill after part 2. Pain Arc was great tho.

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 11:03 PM
I forgot Pain Arc. Pain Arc was outstanding. One of my fav fights.

Micku
04-17-2014, 11:07 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/e060ca719c478995284f30c8a651344f/tumblr_mz9yknYkiI1sktgg3o1_500.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/66b1a574cef1bc76836856cd61596a09/tumblr_mz9yknYkiI1sktgg3o2_500.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/d8e30e4b7ab7b3b385ff96600f036918/tumblr_mz9yknYkiI1sktgg3o3_500.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/ad658d35e43853faeeb53d98ea0625ff/tumblr_mz9yknYkiI1sktgg3o4_500.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/d50bd20c1889b694d584d595b9656a1d/tumblr_mz9yknYkiI1sktgg3o6_500.gif

I love this anime and I love that fight. I watch this movie multiple times, and I still find myself watching it over again once in a blue moon.

One of the best anime movies ever made imo. Up there with Ninja Scrolls with some badassness.

Jameerthefear
04-17-2014, 11:09 PM
Confession: I have never watched Sword of the Stranger. I'm watching that shit this weekend.

Graviton
04-17-2014, 11:11 PM
Naruto Part 1 Chunin Exams was their peak. Part 2 Akatsuki fights were good, but after Pain went Jesus and resurrected everyone the anime/manga went to absolute shit. Right now it's basically DBZ with Bible themes. It all went from grounded ninja fights with reasonable powers and actual strategy to mindless DBZ style destruction and "I can destroy more square blocks than you" type fights.

Trollsmasher
04-17-2014, 11:18 PM
Damn man you just brought out my childhood:applause:

Used to love this anime.
:cheers:

Le Shaqtus
04-17-2014, 11:19 PM
you should check out cowboy bebop fights they are awesome.

I love Cowboy Bebop, completely forgot to list it.

Bandito
04-17-2014, 11:20 PM
Confession: I have never watched Sword of the Stranger. I'm watching that shit this weekend.
I think it is pretty boring until that final fight.

Le Shaqtus
04-17-2014, 11:21 PM
F*cking Rurouni Kenshin.

Thats the shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqHObo1yvyg

There are better fights but I'm too lazy to find them, the OVA's have the best fights though.

Graviton
04-17-2014, 11:23 PM
Anyone know some mature anime with sword fights? I have already seen Ninja Scroll, Sword of the Stranger, Samurai 7, Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Basilisk, Shigurui, FMA, Bleach, Blood +, Berserk, Claymore.

Micku
04-17-2014, 11:48 PM
Naruto Part 1 Chunin Exams was their peak. Part 2 Akatsuki fights were good, but after Pain went Jesus and resurrected everyone the anime/manga went to absolute shit. Right now it's basically DBZ with Bible themes. It all went from grounded ninja fights with reasonable powers and actual strategy to mindless DBZ style destruction and "I can destroy more square blocks than you" type fights.

Yeah, and I hate that. There are only a few animes that could do that well, and DBZ was one of them. Mainly it's because it was the first of its kind, and the fights were cool.

I do think that the Pain Arc was just as good as the Chounin Exam.

Micku
04-18-2014, 12:01 AM
Anyone know some mature anime with sword fights? I have already seen Ninja Scroll, Sword of the Stranger, Samurai 7, Samurai Champloo, Afro Samurai, Basilisk, Shigurui, FMA, Bleach, Blood +, Berserk, Claymore.

Samurai X/Kenshin is up next for you. The movies/OVAs are more mature than the show. The show is still mature, but the tone is a lot lighter than the movies.

The movies are more drama/history than action packed sword fights tho.

Micku
04-18-2014, 12:08 AM
I think it is pretty boring until that final fight.

*gasp*

You didn't like the other fights? There were plenty of great fights before the final fight. The music kicked ass too.

DaSeba5
04-18-2014, 01:37 AM
The fight itself isn't even the best DBZ fight, but it's not the fighting that really made it epic. It was the planet exploding around them, the hype leading up to the fight, the revenge of the Saiyan race, the great dialogue, and the epic soundtrack. When Goku turns Super Saiyan for the first time it's arguably the most epic just by how subtle it is compared to the other transformations, yet you could feel Goku's rage over the death of his best friend. Yes Krillin came back, but since he died in DB and was wished back, he couldn't comeback with the Earth dragon balls.

Levity
04-18-2014, 02:52 AM
FF7 Advent Children:

Sephiroth vs Cloud


:rockon: :banana: :rockon:

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 05:49 AM
The Chuunin exams were good but they copied the Hunter exams from Hunter x Hunter. I actually saw Naruto first so I never realised but after I saw the Hunter exams I became disappointed in Naruto.

BurningHammer
04-18-2014, 10:20 AM
The fight itself isn't even the best DBZ fight, but it's not the fighting that really made it epic. It was the planet exploding around them, the hype leading up to the fight, the revenge of the Saiyan race, the great dialogue, and the epic soundtrack. When Goku turns Super Saiyan for the first time it's arguably the most epic just by how subtle it is compared to the other transformations, yet you could feel Goku's rage over the death of his best friend. Yes Krillin came back, but since he died in DB and was wished back, he couldn't comeback with the Earth dragon balls.
:applause:

glidedrxlr22
04-18-2014, 10:29 AM
Hajime No Ippo has some great fights. In the manga version those same fights are long.

Bandito
04-18-2014, 11:27 AM
Pikachu vs Raichu
Pikachu with Light ball all thhe way.

Le Shaqtus
04-18-2014, 11:51 AM
Pikachu with Light ball all thhe way.

Gotta EV train that defense doe :facepalm goes down like a bitch.

VIntageNOvel
04-18-2014, 12:06 PM
i didnt watch the anime, the manga obviously one of goat manga though, only rivaled by one piece (for this kind of fantasy genre) -> and im pretty sure i already read more manga than any of poster here, not something to be proud of, but i get into the point where i didnt have anything left to be read from kissmanga :D

and some already mentioned another epic fight scene,

like luci vs luffy

or gurren laggan when kamina died

what OP mean is obviously not epic in term of graphic/ cool fight (like samurai champloo etc), but rather the whole package that make you shiver

christian1923
04-18-2014, 02:18 PM
What's a good site to watch episodes?

MavsSuperFan
04-18-2014, 03:42 PM
I have actually always found naruto fights creative and surprising. As i grew older i realized DBZ fights became repetitive and predictable

zoom17
04-18-2014, 05:35 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibaKZwub1GtPd2.gif

wtf what show is this?

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 05:43 PM
wtf what show is this?
Yozakura Quartet?

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 05:43 PM
I picked this off the Net without knowing what show it was.

After a quick research, Katanagatari.
Thanks gonna pick it up.

Burgz V2
04-18-2014, 05:45 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibaKZwub1GtPd2.gif

^what anime is that? that looks pretty cool

wtf what show is this?

please, indulge us kaiteng.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 05:46 PM
please, indulge us kaiteng.
Not really. Just because I flame a shitty ass show that's DBZ doesn't mean I respect actually good anime.

TheReal Kendall
04-18-2014, 05:53 PM
http://i.minus.com/ibaKZwub1GtPd2.gif

I been meaning to watch this. Shit looks sick

Burgz V2
04-18-2014, 06:09 PM
DBZ is the GOAT anime

fixed. :pimp:

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 06:22 PM
I hope Jameer realises a lot of fighting anime that exists today would not have existed if it wasnt for DBZ. In fact I guarantee that Jameer would have no idea what anime even is if it wasnt for DBZ. DBZ made anime, which was originally confined to a Japanese audience, a worldwide phenomenon. Anime today is just piggy-backing off what Akira Toriyama did 30 years ago.

What anime that is around today do you think people will be talking about every day 30 years from now? DBZ is the pinnacle of anime popularity. It transcended the whole genre and took it somewhere no one ever thought it would reach. In fact I would say that Dragonball Z and Pokemon were the two most important animes in the history of anime culture. If their was a Mount Rushmore for anime, it would only contain two faces. Those faces would be of Son Goku, the greatest Saiyan to have ever lived, and Ash Ketchum, the boy we assume will become the first ever Pokemon Master. Im telling you right now, if these two anime didnt exist then we arent even having this discussion.

Open your eyes bro. You are comparing DBZ to these anime but you dont realise that DBZ is bigger than anime itself. The fact that you havent even watched DBZ just makes your point even less valid.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 06:24 PM
I hope Jameer realises a lot of fighting anime that exists today would not have existed if it wasnt for DBZ. In fact I guarantee that Jameer would have no idea what anime even is if it wasnt for DBZ. DBZ made anime, which was originally confined to a Japanese audience, a worldwide phenomenon. Anime today is just piggy-backing off what Akira Toriyama did 30 years ago.

What anime that is around today do you think people will be talking about every day 30 years from now? DBZ is the pinnacle of anime popularity. It transcended the whole genre and took it somewhere no one ever thought it would reach. In fact I would say that Dragonball Z and Pokemon were the two most important animes in the history of anime culture. If their was a Mount Rushmore for anime, it would only contain two faces. Those faces would be of Son Goku, the greatest Saiyan to have ever lived, and Ash Ketchum, the boy we assume will become the first ever Pokemon Master. Im telling you right now, if these two anime didnt exist then we arent even having this discussion.

Open your eyes bro. You are comparing DBZ to these anime but you dont realise that DBZ is bigger than anime itself. The fact that you havent even watched DBZ just makes your point even less valid.
Anime fighting scenes are based mostly off popular movies like ones that have Bruce Lee. Stop making shit up. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You're retarded

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 06:28 PM
Anime fighting scenes are based mostly off popular movies like ones that have Bruce Lee. Stop making shit up. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You're retarded

Oh really? How many anime creators have said that DBZ is the inspiration for many anime out today? How many of them wouldnt see the light of day if DBZ didnt blaze the trail around the world? Don't talk about something you don't know you. Your blind hate of DBZ is pathetic. Did a guy in a Goku cosplay rape you in a Animecon toilet?

Burgz V2
04-18-2014, 07:35 PM
Anime fighting scenes are based mostly off popular movies like ones that have Bruce Lee. Stop making shit up. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You're retarded

well that was extremely mature. you won't endear anyone in this conversation ridiculing yourself like that. if you want to make an intelligible argument, go right ahead. The funny thing is ForeverHeat is right on the money and there is no disputing that.


Your blind hate of DBZ is pathetic. Did a guy in a Goku cosplay rape you in a Animecon toilet?

more like Goten :D

Bandito
04-18-2014, 07:37 PM
Oh really? How many anime creators have said that DBZ is the inspiration for many anime out today? How many of them wouldnt see the light of day if DBZ didnt blaze the trail around the world? Don't talk about something you don't know you. Your blind hate of DBZ is pathetic. Did a guy in a Goku cosplay rape you in a Animecon toilet?
Jeez Jameer he's actually right. DBZ was the inspiration to many anime and even the author have said so. I am not that big of a fan of DBZ and think is overrated but it still doesn't mean is a bad anime. It is still an enjoyable anime to a lot of people.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 07:47 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TFaTK.gif

http://i.imgur.com/hJIi6Fa.gif
but the inspiration is DBZ!!!!!!!!
****ing morons.

Burgz V2
04-18-2014, 07:55 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TFaTK.gif

http://i.imgur.com/hJIi6Fa.gif
but the inspiration is DBZ!!!!!!!!
****ing morons.

wow DBZ looks shockingly like naruto.

thanks bruh.

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 08:20 PM
Alright Jameer, this is getting boring. Many anime artists have said these things you dumb f*ck, you think Im making this up? Masashi Kishimoto has actually said Naruto Uzumaki is inspired by Goku. Eiichiro Oda also said Dragonball Z was one of the main influences for One Piece. These things are out there, use google. Thats already two of the biggest anime that would not exist without Dragonball Z. Shall I do more, or will your butthurt start flaring up again?

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 08:26 PM
>cites mainstream anime being influenced by a mainstream anime
>lol

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 08:31 PM
http://i.imgur.com/TFaTK.gif

http://i.imgur.com/hJIi6Fa.gif
but the inspiration is DBZ!!!!!!!!
****ing morons.


Alright Jameer, this is getting boring. Many anime artists have said these things you dumb f*ck, you think Im making this up? Masashi Kishimoto has actually said Naruto Uzumaki is inspired by Goku. Eiichiro Oda also said Dragonball Z was one of the main influences for One Piece. These things are out there, use google. Thats already two of the biggest anime that would not exist without Dragonball Z. Shall I do more, or will your butthurt start flaring up again?


>cites mainstream anime being influenced by a mainstream anime
>lol

Guys I hope you can see clearly now that he is a troll. Either that or inflicted by a devastating mental illness. Not sure which.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 08:33 PM
Throw some actual good anime that were based off DBZ. I'll wait :yaohappy:

Bandito
04-18-2014, 08:39 PM
Jameer stop trolling. DBZ was the inspiration to many mangaka to do their stories, like NAruto, TTGL among others. Stop being a dick, and I don't mean like the guy in my avatar.

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 08:41 PM
Throw some actual good anime that were based off DBZ. I'll wait :yaohappy:

Mate, just stop. The evidence is there for all to see. You have been exposed. The only thing in this world you actually had some knowledge about seemed to be anime, but now its clear you don't even have a clue about that. What a sad life.

The Iron Sheik
04-18-2014, 08:43 PM
the fight is over 4 hours...which is like...years in dbz time

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 08:49 PM
Jameer stop trolling. DBZ was the inspiration to many mangaka to do their stories, like NAruto, TTGL among others. Stop being a dick, and I don't mean like the guy in my avatar.
you think DBZ inspired TTGL? LOL. Bandy I expect more from a seasoned fan like yourself. I also like how some dipdong who's watched two shows thinks he's a bigger fan than me. Pathetic.

Kungfro
04-18-2014, 08:54 PM
Throw some actual good anime that were based off DBZ. I'll wait :yaohappy:

http://imageshack.com/a/img836/6623/7np.gif

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 08:56 PM
you think DBZ inspired TTGL? LOL. Bandy I expect more from a seasoned fan like yourself. I also like how some dipdong who's watched two shows thinks he's a bigger fan than me. Pathetic.

I probably have watched more anime than you, judging from your anime knowledge (or lack thereof). I used to make AMV's, so not only did I watch a shit ton of anime, I actually gave something entertaining back to the community. Whereas you and your kind just bring embarrassment and shame to anime fans. Go watch some hentai and go to bed son, you sound tired.

Bandito
04-18-2014, 08:56 PM
you think DBZ inspired TTGL? LOL. Bandy I expect more from a seasoned fan like yourself. I also like how some dipdong who's watched two shows thinks he's a bigger fan than me. Pathetic.
I know what you mean, but you are seeing the word inspiration and comparing it to being directly based.

Inspiration in the way characters and the battles are done. People tend to copy and improve on techniques done before.

Heck Naruto and Luffy are characters with way too much confidence with a particular characteristic that makes them weird to many people just like Goku.

Goku is too naive

Naruto is a pervert

Luffy is just a retard


But all of them have that confidence in them that makes them similar, also the way they can power up when the need is there to save their friend, family and/or everybody etc...

Heck Kamina is a character similar to Goku too.

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 08:57 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img836/6623/7np.gif
Damn you Kung...

Megabox!
04-18-2014, 08:58 PM
Throw some actual good anime that were based off DBZ. I'll wait :yaohappy:
One Piece...

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 08:58 PM
I know what you mean, but you are seeing the word inspiration and comparing it to being directly based.

Inspiration in the way characters and the battles are done. People tend to copy and improve on techniques done before.

Heck Naruto and Luffy are characters with way too much confidence with a particular characteristic that makes them weird to many people just like Goku.

Goku is too naive

Naruto is a pervert

Luffy is just a retard


But all of them have that confidence in them that makes them similar, also the way they can power up when the need is there to save their friend, family and/or everybody etc...

Heck Kamina is a character similar to Goku too.
You're right. Goku made confidence. In fact, DBZ started everything. Everything that has ever existed ever was inspired from DBZ. Gotcha.

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 09:00 PM
http://imageshack.com/a/img836/6623/7np.gif

:lol :applause:

It has even made its way into gaming. Super Sonic anyone?

http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111113170451/sonic/images/f/f2/Supersonic_pose.jpg

ForeverHeat
04-18-2014, 09:05 PM
In the gag manga and anime Good Luck Girl! (Binbogami Ga!) references are constantly made to several other Shonen Jump series, particularly the Dragon Ball franchise:
Super Saiyan Goku appears in a montage of people described to have good fortune with his eyes censored out and an alternate color uniform. A similar picture of Vegeta is likewise seen in a montage of those said to have negative energy.
The poverty god Momiji and her familiar are seen dressed as Goku an King Kai with a backdrop of the latter's home planet behind them.
The characters are seen cosplaying as Vegeta and Nappa.
When the Dog God Momo'o transforms into his canine form, his hair turns golden and his body is engulfed in a bright aura like that of a Super Saiyan. Bobby and Momiji look on while dressed as Krillin and Master Roshi.
When Bobby is show being blastd away by a wave of energy, he shouts Vegeta's name, the scene's animation parodying Nappa's demise.

The anime Watashi ga Motenai no wa Dou Kangaete mo Omaera ga Warui! includes a scene where the main character, Tomoko, is put into a similar pose as Yamcha after being killed by a Saibaman, complete with a crater and a broken Saibaman arm.

In the opening theme for The Melancholy of Suzumiya Haruhi-chan, the Kamehameha is mentioned.
In the anime and manga series Bakuman, there are several references to Dragon Ball: the character Akito Takagi's favorite manga being Dragon Ball, the main characters Moritaka and Takagi doing the Fusion Dance pose.

The anime Yuru Yuri includes a scene where the main character, Akari, turns into a Super Saiyan in a dream sequence.

Just a few references in other anime.

Bandito
04-18-2014, 09:07 PM
Just a few references in other anime.
Nope DBZ didn't inspire nothing at all.:facepalm

Jameerthefear
04-18-2014, 09:07 PM
The main character Akari in Yuru Yuri was inspired by Goku. Yep. Makes sense.

TheReal Kendall
04-18-2014, 09:10 PM
@Jameer just take the L and keep it moving bruh

Bandito
04-18-2014, 09:10 PM
@Jameer just take the D and keep it moving bruh
agreed.

Bandito
04-18-2014, 09:17 PM
This is jameerthefear after....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c3885ffc054550ac989527bc1609ca41/tumblr_mpzvc6YYgs1rwu8gjo1_500.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

KingBeasley08
04-18-2014, 09:54 PM
I looked the fight up on youtube and it was four hours long :wtf: :wtf:


http://img.pandawhale.com/post-6769-aint-nobody-got-time-for-that-yIus.gif

zoom17
04-18-2014, 09:58 PM
This is jameerthefear after....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/c3885ffc054550ac989527bc1609ca41/tumblr_mpzvc6YYgs1rwu8gjo1_500.gif

:lol

Bandito
04-18-2014, 10:02 PM
DBZ taught me that long blond hair means you are strong.

Look at Thor:pimp: