OKC is title favorite per SC fan vote

[JT123]

29 percent of fans are picking OKC as the title favorite, with the Miami Heat second at 26 percent. The rest of the results can be found on the SportsCenter twitter page. This just proves what I've been saying all season, and the fans all agree that the Thunder have a more stacked team than the Heat. Anything less than a title and Durant's season is an epic failure.
#championshiporbust

[NumberSix]

A plurality of voters agree that OKC are the favorites and OKC fans have been telling me all season that Durant is the best player on earth.




No excuses

[ABfor3]

The Thunder will reach the Finals and the Heat will not.

[moe94]

Championship or bust!

[J Shuttlesworth]

As far as the championship or bust thing... I agree and disagree at the same time.

I've seen OKC fans on here claiming that KD > prime Kobe and prime LeBron just based on what we've seen from him this season (not even counting any previous seasons or playoff stats). If we are holding KD to that standard, of course it's ring or bust.

Most sports analysts don't hold KD to that level of expectations though. I've never seen a legit sports analyst say that KD right now > prime Kobe or LeBron, only OKC stans. That's why it's really not ring or bust for KD... you only say that to the extreme fans who are trying to overrate the hell out of him.

[dannywpt]

Obsessed

[NumberSix]

Championship or bust!
Yeah, championship or bust...... A nutt, because that's what I'll do if they lose.

[Uncle Drew]

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[ArbitraryWater]

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Which Vote are you talking about?

[SilkkTheShocker]

The Thunder will reach the Finals and the Heat will not.

:oldlol:

[ArbitraryWater]

One says this the other says that... meh who cares

http://i.gyazo.com/7e00f525364ba4390335ce3f5bc85907.png

[russwest0]

http://i.gyazo.com/5274176a9a75d6f0c7fcadf07353bdd7.png

Which Vote are you talking about?

:oldlol:

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Championship or mega ultra giga bust.:coleman:
they have the most stacked team together with the Spurs and Durstans have been babbling about KD being the best player in the world all season.
time to win it all:coleman:

[dannywpt]

Championship or mega ultra giga bust.:coleman:

LeUNDERSTATEMENT!!!! No words for how big of a bust it will be. My goodness!!! Will be the greatest upset in NBA history in Lebrone wins it!

[Marlo_Stanfield]

LeUNDERSTATEMENT!!!! No words for how big of a bust it will be. My goodness!!! Will be the greatest upset in NBA history in Lebrone wins it!
:cheers: :cheers:

[Budadiiii]

LeBron stans proving his rings don't mean shit.

How can you still be so insecure? Asterisk rings can do that to a fanbase.

LeBron still doesn't get any credit and rightfully so.

He'll end his career with 2 asterisk rings and will be remembered for his colossal choke jobs.

Kevin Durant is the face of the NBA. ESPN is already riding the MJ/Durant train. They tried it with LeBron and failed miserably because of his passive/choking nature.

Durant will actually live up. Come see me in 7 years. Bump mode f*ggots.

[AnaheimLakers24]

heat - championship or biggest bust of all time.

[dannywpt]

heat - championship or biggest bust of all time.

But we only have the GOAT, 2 other all-stars/future HoFs, GOAT 3pt shooter, solid roleplayers and the best defense in the league when it's on.

How are we even supposed to compete with ultra stacked squads like Pacers, Thunder, Spurs or Clippers?

If LeBrone James wins he will be even further in the lead as the GOAT

[Budadiiii]

heat - championship or biggest bust of all time.
No doubt..

Stacked team in the weakest conference of all time... and that's not even exaggerating.

If LeBron only manages two asterisk rings then his career will be just a joke.

Great talent and athletic freak... but the way his NBA career has panned out is tragic. Choking, leaving your hometown/colluding, all his media moments..... I'm sorry but Ray Allen cant save his WHOLE career....

Ray Allen hitting that shot was just a temporary bandage...

This is the highest peak LeBron will ever reach. Not very satisfying is it? Especially for a guy blessed with this kind of athleticism and talent

[Shade8780]

It's KD's year :rockon:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=325437

[inclinerator]

LeBron stans proving his rings don't mean shit.

How can you still be so insecure? Asterisk rings can do that to a fanbase.

LeBron still doesn't get any credit and rightfully so.

He'll end his career with 2 asterisk rings and will be remembered for his colossal choke jobs.

Kevin Durant is the face of the NBA. ESPN is already riding the MJ/Durant train. They tried it with LeBron and failed miserably because of his passive/choking nature.

Durant will actually live up. Come see me in 7 years. Bump mode f*ggots.
too bad ull be dead in 2 months

[D.J.]

The Thunder aren't even a lock to beat the Grizzlies. But I will say this: If the Thunder do pull it off, it's gotta be the hardest run to the title by any team ever. They would have to beat the Grizzlies(low seed, but still a solid team), the Clippers most likely(a good team), probably the Spurs(we all know what they're capable of), and either the Heat or Pacers. That is not an easy run at all.

[J Shuttlesworth]

LeBron stans proving his rings don't mean shit.

How can you still be so insecure? Asterisk rings can do that to a fanbase.

LeBron still doesn't get any credit and rightfully so.

He'll end his career with 2 asterisk rings and will be remembered for his colossal choke jobs.

Kevin Durant is the face of the NBA. ESPN is already riding the MJ/Durant train. They tried it with LeBron and failed miserably because of his passive/choking nature.

Durant will actually live up. Come see me in 7 years. Bump mode f*ggots.



No doubt..

Stacked team in the weakest conference of all time... and that's not even exaggerating.

If LeBron only manages two asterisk rings then his career will be just a joke.

Great talent and athletic freak... but the way his NBA career has panned out is tragic. Choking, leaving your hometown/colluding, all his media moments..... I'm sorry but Ray Allen cant save his WHOLE career....

Ray Allen hitting that shot was just a temporary bandage...

This is the highest peak LeBron will ever reach. Not very satisfying is it? Especially for a guy blessed with this kind of athleticism and talent


You sound awfully mad. In b4 this becomes a full on essay by Budadiii, hopefully the last one he has to write before he offs himself when Durant chokes against the Grizz again

[russwest0]

The Thunder aren't even a lock to beat the Grizzlies. But I will say this: If the Thunder do pull it off, it's gotta be the hardest run to the title by any team ever. They would have to beat the Grizzlies(low seed, but still a solid team), the Clippers most likely(a good team), probably the Spurs(we all know what they're capable of), and either the Heat or Pacers. That is not an easy run at all.

Let alone doing it with just one all star and a starter playing 3000 total minutes that year (which no player has ever won the chip doing in the last decade)

If Durant pulls this off it solidifies him as top 10 all time at age 25.

[Budadiiii]

The Thunder aren't even a lock to beat the Grizzlies. But I will say this: If the Thunder do pull it off, it's gotta be the hardest run to the title by any team ever. They would have to beat the Grizzlies(low seed, but still a solid team), the Clippers most likely(a good team), probably the Spurs(we all know what they're capable of), and either the Heat or Pacers. That is not an easy run at all.
It would be the greatest run in history. No question.

Durant would automatically be a top ten player.

This ring will rank higher than any Bird, Magic, Jordan, Duncan, Shaq, or Kobe ring....

This will be the most prestigious and valuable championship ring for a GOAT candidate

[J Shuttlesworth]

The Thunder aren't even a lock to beat the Grizzlies. But I will say this: If the Thunder do pull it off, it's gotta be the hardest run to the title by any team ever. They would have to beat the Grizzlies(low seed, but still a solid team), the Clippers most likely(a good team), probably the Spurs(we all know what they're capable of), and either the Heat or Pacers. That is not an easy run at all.
Dirk's run > Durant's

He beat Kobe, and your GOAT boy Durant and LeBron/Wade.

Also, Dirks' run actually happened whereas Durant's is still hypothetical.

[Budadiiii]

To go through this sort of competition with maybe the worst coach in the NBA would be the greatest achievement the NBA has ever seen....

Everyone knows Scott just runs the offense through Durant and hopes everything goes OK... and 99% of the time it does. And NO presence down low? WOW.

This ring will be equivalent to like 4 rings.

Kobe ring-padded with Shaq... You mean to tell me this one ring isn't equivalent to 4 of Kobes? It will be.

No one has ever done with a weak head coach against this sort of competition. It's unheard of in the NBA.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Man Budadiii is loaded with excuses. What ever happened to ring or bust? :biggums: You finna act like Durant doesn't have enough talent around him to win the ring? :lol :roll: Anything less will be an absolute failure, and you will admittedly kill yourself, and Durant will drop to top 200 all time.

[Budadiiii]

Dirk's run > Durant's

He beat Kobe, and your GOAT boy Durant and LeBron/Wade.

Also, Dirks' run actually happened whereas Durant's is still hypothetical.
Great head coach and the best Center in the playoffs....

:rolleyes:

Right.

But I do agree Dirks ring means much more than LeBron's two asterisks... no doubt about it.

[xoracle55]

No doubt..

Stacked team in the weakest conference of all time... and that's not even exaggerating.

If LeBron only manages two asterisk rings then his career will be just a joke.

Great talent and athletic freak... but the way his NBA career has panned out is tragic. Choking, leaving your hometown/colluding, all his media moments..... I'm sorry but Ray Allen cant save his WHOLE career....

Ray Allen hitting that shot was just a temporary bandage...

This is the highest peak LeBron will ever reach. Not very satisfying is it? Especially for a guy blessed with this kind of athleticism and talent

I dont know which bests describe budadiii, plain stupid or plain ignorant...

[Budadiiii]

Man Budadiii is loaded with excuses. What ever happened to ring or bust? :biggums: You finna act like Durant doesn't have enough talent around him to win the ring? :lol :roll: Anything less will be an absolute failure, and you will admittedly kill yourself, and Durant will drop to top 200 all time.
I guaranteed a ring before the season started and we have an ongoing perma ban bet..

If this is someone making excuses and hiding away then I hate to think what you consider these pathetic LeBron stans....

Rings should be taken into context... I only say 'if' because it hasn't happened yet.. it's not making excuses.

WHEN Durant wins this year it will be the greatest run in history and the most valuable ring for a GOAT candidate. Happy?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Great head coach and the best Center in the playoffs....

:rolleyes:

Right.

But I do agree Dirks ring means much more than LeBron's two asterisks... no doubt about it.
How did the Thunder do when Perkins went down this year? Did gawdly defense Durant take over the defensive end of the team? Must have resulted in some serious wins since KP is such a useless scrub. How many wins did they have vs. losses w/ that scrub KP out?

[Budadiiii]

I dont know which bests describe budadiii, plain stupid or plain ignorant...
How about plain right....

No GOAT candidate has EVER won a ring under these circumstances. Deal with it.

BTW, I've never been wrong on this website.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I guaranteed a ring before the season started and we have an ongoing perma ban bet..

If this is someone making excuses and hiding away then I hate to think what you consider these pathetic LeBron stans....

Rings should be taken into context... I only say 'if' because it hasn't happened yet.. it's not making excuses.

WHEN Durant wins this year it will be the greatest run in history and the most valuable ring for a GOAT candidate. Happy?

lol the amount of cringe in this post is ridiculous. Even if Durant wins a ring this year, his run isn't better than Dirk's and he needs at least 6 FMVPs to be a GOAT candidate GTFO out of here w/ this bullshit you're spewing :lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

And acting like you're not making excuses :lol . You already have a tombstone with "Scott Brooks and Kendrick Perkins did this" printed on it for when Durant chokes and loses to the Grizz in the first round.

[Koontzy]

I can see why OKC is a favorite going into it. Durant is having a MVP caliber year, and Westbrook and Durant make a great team. Regardless of the voting, They are going to have their hands full with the Spurs who are probably the best shooting team right now, and the best looking team in the NBA.

[Budadiiii]

lol the amount of cringe in this post is ridiculous. Even if Durant wins a ring this year, his run isn't better than Dirk's and he needs at least 6 FMVPs to be a GOAT candidate GTFO out of here w/ this bullshit you're spewing :lol
Coaching and low post presence are insanely important in the playoffs....

It would be the greatest run for any perimeter player for sure. And I've yet to see a big man win against this type of competition with a weak head coach.

Having D-Wade and Bosh, + elite perimeter D + elite 3pt shooting + great coaching minimises 'LeBrons' rings. Just deal with reality here.

D-Wade has a top 5 run for a perimeter player and a very valuable ring...

Us Durant fans aren't worried about the Choker LeBron.... we're worried about D-Wade for Christ sake.

He's the one who has a valuable ring... not LeBron.

[zoom17]

Budadiii posts make my Head hurt.

[NumberSix]

And acting like you're not making excuses :lol . You already have a tombstone with "Scott Brooks and Kendrick Perkins did this" printed on it for when Durant chokes and loses to the Grizz in the first round.
Let's not be stupid here. OKC will beat Memphis in 4 or 5.

[Budadiiii]

And acting like you're not making excuses :lol . You already have a tombstone with "Scott Brooks and Kendrick Perkins did this" printed on it for when Durant chokes and loses to the Grizz in the first round.
You cant have credibility when you make posts like this. :facepalm

I'm just telling you how valuable this ring will be for Durant...

So do you officially predict that the Grizz will upset the Thunder?

Or just speaking in insane hyperbole to stir me up?

You're the definition of a 'troll.' :lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

Coaching and low post presence are insanely important in the playoffs....

It would be the greatest run for any perimeter player for sure. And I've yet to see a big man win against this type of competition with a weak head coach.

Having D-Wade and Bosh, + elite perimeter D + elite 3pt shooting + great coaching minimises 'LeBrons' rings. Just deal with reality here.

D-Wade has a top 5 run for a perimeter player and a very valuable ring...

Us Durant fans aren't worried about the Choker LeBron.... we're worried about D-Wade for Christ sake.

He's the one who has a valuable ring... not LeBron.

Perkins is your post presence. He is the Dwight Stopper and will bother the front court of the Grizzlies as well.

Let's see how Thunder's big 3 stack up vs. Heat's big 3:

Durant = Goat, LeBron = choker, useless player. Advantage thunder
Wade = 19/4/4 this year, Westbrook = 21.8/7/6. Westbrook is top 5-7 in league. Advantage Thunder
Bosh = 16.2, 6.6 reb Ibaka = 15.8, 8.8 reb: Advantage Thunder

Clearly the Thunder have the advantage here. Despite that, I still have no doubt that the Heat will face the Spurs in the finals since Durant already has enough trouble choking against the Grizzlies. The GOAT can't choke in the 2nd round

[J Shuttlesworth]

Let's not be stupid here. OKC will beat Memphis in 4 or 5.
Come on man. Budadiii is a giant troll. We gotta troll him back

[livinglegend]

With the stacked talent that OKC has, they should sweep their way to the NBA championship title. Let s see if they do it.

[Keno]

LeBron stans proving his rings don't mean shit.

How can you still be so insecure? Asterisk rings can do that to a fanbase.

LeBron still doesn't get any credit and rightfully so.

He'll end his career with 2 asterisk rings and will be remembered for his colossal choke jobs.

Kevin Durant is the face of the NBA. ESPN is already riding the MJ/Durant train. They tried it with LeBron and failed miserably because of his passive/choking nature.

Durant will actually live up. Come see me in 7 years. Bump mode f*ggots.

espn was riding the mj/durant train after game one of the 2012 finals. but we all know what happened after that.

[Budadiiii]

Perkins is your post presence. He is the Dwight Stopper and will bother the front court of the Grizzlies as well.

Let's see how Thunder's big 3 stack up vs. Heat's big 3:

Durant = Goat, LeBron = choker, useless player. Advantage thunder
Wade = 19/4/4 this year, Westbrook = 21.8/7/6. Westbrook is top 5-7 in league. Advantage Thunder
Bosh = 16.2, 6.6 reb Ibaka = 15.8, 8.8 reb: Advantage Thunder

Clearly the Thunder have the advantage here. Despite that, I still have no doubt that the Heat will face the Spurs in the finals since Durant already has enough trouble choking against the Grizzlies. The GOAT can't choke in the 2nd round
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Another ridiculous post.

Durant = GOAT... not yet

LeBron = Useless, Nope, 2nd best player

Wade > Westbrook... in what universe?

Ibaka > Bosh..... in what universe?

These guys were number 1 options at one point. D-Wade led his team to a ring. Bosh led his team to the playoffs.

Stats never tell the whole story. But you don't actually watch the games. You'd rather make ridiculous posts on a message board. :lol

So you have Memphis > OKC?

Can't wait to bump. :banana:

BYE BYE Basketball credibility. :banana:

[LoneyROY7]

:facepalm

BOTH Durant and LeBron stans are delusional and pathetic.

[Budadiiii]

espn was riding the mj/durant train after game one of the 2012 finals. but we all know what happened after that.
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg

indeed.....

[J Shuttlesworth]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

Another ridiculous post.

Durant = GOAT... not yet

LeBron = Useless, Nope, 2nd best player

Wade > Westbrook... in what universe?

Ibaka > Bosh..... in what universe?

These guys were number 1 options at one point. D-Wade led his team to a ring. Bosh led his team to the playoffs.

Stats never tell the whole story. But you don't actually watch the games. You'd rather make ridiculous posts on a message board. :lol

So you have Memphis > OKC?

Can't wait to bump. :banana:

BYE BYE Basketball credibility. :banana:
I'm using your logic for the LeBron vs. KD. You call him a choker. How could be a threat if he's a choker? :facepalm

and statistically, yes Westbrook and Ibaka are outperforming Bosh and Wade this year. Show me numbers saying otherwise.

[zoom17]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg

indeed.....

should have fouled out before that.

[Budadiiii]

I'm using your logic for the LeBron vs. KD. You call him a choker. How could be a threat if he's a choker? :facepalm

and statistically, yes Westbrook and Ibaka are outperforming Bosh and Wade this year. Show me numbers saying otherwise.
Statistically, KD > Bron 'this year'

Thanks for admitting KD > bron.

:cheers:

[russwest0]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg

indeed.....

Holy shit :lol :lol :lol

Wasn't the official Dan Crawford like RIGHT THERE too? Goddamn, how do you not call that?

[zoom17]

Holy shit :lol :lol :lol

Wasn't the official Dan Crawford like RIGHT THERE too? Goddamn, how do you not call that?

Just like how the refs didn't call the charge on Durant a few plays earlier.

Ball not lie.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2__e9FeMFg

[J Shuttlesworth]

Statistically, KD > Bron 'this year'

Thanks for admitting KD > bron.

:cheers:
Is anyone denying that he's better stastically? :biggums: Why do you think he has essentially has the MVP trophy? I'm asking you to prove that Wade/Bosh are > Westbrook/Ibaka this year... and arguments about past accomplishments don't account for their stats this year.

No doubt it would be a great run for KD to win the finals. I'm a huge KD fan myself, but I love trolling the OKC fans on this forum. I just don't jump to ridiculous blanket statements like you saying "KD is already a top 10 player if he wins it this year" :wtf: And you don't become a GOAT candidate till have you a serious ring count. I don't consider LeBron a GOAT candidate unless he wins at least 5 rings. Even then... I'd be hesitant to take him over Jordan but it'd be a lot closer.

I'm just saying on a non-troll note, don't delude yourself into thinking that winning 1 ring puts you in the top 10 or GOAT discussion. Dirk's run is better than just about any playoffs run ever, but most don't have him in the top 10.

[livinglegend]

Holy shit :lol :lol :lol

Wasn't the official Dan Crawford like RIGHT THERE too? Goddamn, how do you not call that?

He didnt want to waste time. Durant would have choked and missed both of the fts anyway, wouldnt change anything.
Why waste time when you have the option of not wasting time? It s that simple. :applause: :applause:

[LoneyROY7]

Holy shit :lol :lol :lol

Wasn't the official Dan Crawford like RIGHT THERE too? Goddamn, how do you not call that?

Probably because he figured that someone with that stick figure-like physique could have just as easily been pushed back by relatively tepid gust of wind. :confusedshrug:

[NumberSix]

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1188305/touch1_1.jpg

indeed.....
Durant was lucky to be in the game at all after they let his 6th and 7th fouls slide.

[Budadiiii]

Is anyone denying that he's better stastically? :biggums: Why do you think he has essentially has the MVP trophy? I'm asking you to prove that Wade/Bosh are > Westbrook/Ibaka this year... and arguments about past accomplishments don't account for their stats this year.

No doubt it would be a great run for KD to win the finals. I'm a huge KD fan myself, but I love trolling the OKC fans on this forum. I just don't jump to ridiculous blanket statements like you saying "KD is already a top 10 player if he wins it this year" :wtf: And you don't become a GOAT candidate till have you a serious ring count. I don't consider LeBron a GOAT candidate unless he wins at least 5 rings. Even then... I'd be hesitant to take him over Jordan but it'd be a lot closer.

I'm just saying on a non-troll note, don't delude yourself into thinking that winning 1 ring puts you in the top 10 or GOAT discussion. Dirk's run is better than just about any playoffs run ever, but most don't have him in the top 10.
Do stats tell the whole story?

Durant is the best player on the planet then according to you.

D-Wade is saved for the playoffs. That's one guy where regular season stats mean jack shit. Bosh is a better basketball player than Ibaka... blocked shots =/ great defense and that's really the only argument you could make for Ibaka being better than Bosh....I would swap IBaka for Bosh in a ****ing heartbeat.

He's a guy who can hit clutch shots when you need and will always draw offensive attention because of his versatility

Ibaka is still incredibly raw. He has no post moves, terrible hands, bad finisher, and weak man to man D......

Don't get me wrong hes a good player but not better than Bosh.... that's laughable

[Budadiiii]

Durant was lucky to be in the game at all after they let his 6th and 7th fouls slide.
Go back and watch that game.

Tell me if the calls made on Durant in the first half were legit.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Do stats tell the whole story?

Durant is the best player on the planet then according to you.

D-Wade is saved for the playoffs. That's one guy where regular season stats mean jack shit. Bosh is a better basketball player than Ibaka... blocked shots =/ great defense and that's really the only argument you could make for Ibaka being better than Bosh....I would swap IBaka for Bosh in a ****ing heartbeat.

He's a guy who can hit clutch shots when you need and will always draw offensive attention because of his versatility

Ibaka is still incredibly raw. He has no post moves, terrible hands, bad finisher, and weak man to man D......

Don't get me wrong hes a good player but not better than Bosh.... that's laughable
There's more to a team than the talent they have. It's also about how the fit into the system. I agree Bosh > Ibaka, and if I was a GM, I would take Bosh first. If I already had 2 options like Westbrook/Durant, or LeBron/Wade, you are better having a player like Ibaka as a third option opposed to bosh. The reason is the rebounding/defense. Bosh can't put up the same numbers as he did in Toronto because the offense is running through Wade/LeBron. You could argue that Ibaka would have higher PPG if he was playing on a team where he was the first/second option (much like Bosh). Believe it or not, I think a lot of Heat fans would swap Bosh for Ibaka assuming Ibaka's #s stay the same as they are on the Thunder. His rebounding/blocked shots is more beneficial to a team like the Heat who are last in the league in offensive rebounds. Bosh is necessary for the games where Wade is out. As far as necessary production, Ibaka's production would be more beneficial to the Heat than Bosh's.

As far as Westbrook vs. Wade, well your boy Durant straight up said that Wade shouldn't be considered top 10 in the league and Westbrook should take his spot. I'll consider Wade and Westbrook to be pretty equal overall, especially if Wade is healthy but I'd still give Westbrook the slight edge for his athleticism/fearlessness vs. Wade's age.

[Budadiiii]

There's more to a team than the talent they have. It's also about how the fit into the system. I agree Bosh > Ibaka, and if I was a GM, I would take Bosh first. If I already had 2 options like Westbrook/Durant, or LeBron/Wade, you are better having a player like Ibaka as a third option opposed to bosh. The reason is the rebounding/defense. Bosh can't put up the same numbers as he did in Toronto because the offense is running through Wade/LeBron. You could argue that Ibaka would have higher PPG if he was playing on a team where he was the first/second option (much like Bosh). Believe it or not, I think a lot of Heat fans would swap Bosh for Ibaka assuming Ibaka's #s stay the same as they are on the Thunder. His rebounding/blocked shots is more beneficial to a team like the Heat who are last in the league in offensive rebounds. Bosh is necessary for the games where Wade is out. As far as necessary production, Ibaka's production would be more beneficial to the Heat than Bosh's.

As far as Westbrook vs. Wade, well your boy Durant straight up said that Wade shouldn't be considered top 10 in the league and Westbrook should take his spot. I'll consider Wade and Westbrook to be pretty equal overall, especially if Wade is healthy but I'd still give Westbrook the slight edge for his athleticism/fearlessness vs. Wade's age.
Wade is just a bigger/more efficient/less mistake prone version of Westbrook.

He's naturally a better playmaker, finisher, and defender because of his size/length. And dude, if you think Westbrook is better now because of Wade's health/decline whatever.... then that's fine. But he sure as hell wasn't when the Heat won their championships... Ibaka sure as hell wasn't better than Bosh either and still isn't..... OKC role players sure as hell weren't.. production wise and just judging from the eye-test. and we already know the coaching wasn't... so what's with you shitting on Durant for not having won yet? He has never had the best team around him and you could only start making the argument THIS YEAR, and it's still a weak argument considering what I expect from Wade/Bosh and all those nasty perimeter defenders and clutch 3pt shooters....

[secund2nun]

Don't worry these same people who pick OKC will pretend that Miami was always the favorites if Miami wins this year...just like they pretended that Miami was the favorite in 2012 when OKC was.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Wade is just a bigger/more efficient/less mistake prone version of Westbrook.

He's naturally a better playmaker, finisher, and defender because of his size/length. And dude, if you think Westbrook is better now because of Wade's health/decline whatever.... then that's fine. But he sure as hell wasn't when the Heat won their championships... Ibaka sure as hell wasn't better than Bosh either and still isn't..... OKC role players sure as hell weren't.. production wise and just judging from the eye-test. and we already know the coaching wasn't... so what's with you shitting on Durant for not having won yet? He has never had the best team around him and you could only start making the argument THIS YEAR, and it's still a weak argument considering what I expect from Wade/Bosh and all those nasty perimeter defenders and clutch 3pt shooters....
Of course prime Wade > westbrook. We're talking about arguably the guy w/ the GOAT finals performance. Westbrook this year > Wade last year. Wade in the playoffs last year was good for 16/4/4. Westbrook is beyond that.

But people comparing current Wade to Flash wade are kidding themselves. It's just like the people who say having Ray Allen is stacked even though he's a shadow of his former self.

[JT123]

Budadiii having an epic meltdown. :lol :lol

[Budadiiii]

Of course prime Wade > westbrook. We're talking about arguably the guy w/ the GOAT finals performance. Westbrook this year > Wade last year. Wade in the playoffs last year was good for 16/4/4. Westbrook is beyond that.

But people comparing current Wade to Flash wade are kidding themselves. It's just like the people who say having Ray Allen is stacked even though he's a shadow of his former self.
Not talking about prime Wade....

20/4/4 on 54% is better than Westbrook and we know playoffs are the only thing that matter for Wade.....

Come on.

[JT123]

Do stats tell the whole story?

Durant is the best player on the planet then according to you.

D-Wade is saved for the playoffs. That's one guy where regular season stats mean jack shit. Bosh is a better basketball player than Ibaka... blocked shots =/ great defense and that's really the only argument you could make for Ibaka being better than Bosh....I would swap IBaka for Bosh in a ****ing heartbeat.

He's a guy who can hit clutch shots when you need and will always draw offensive attention because of his versatility

Ibaka is still incredibly raw. He has no post moves, terrible hands, bad finisher, and weak man to man D......

Don't get me wrong hes a good player but not better than Bosh.... that's laughable
Perfect description of Bosh. :lol Only thing Bosh has over Ibaka is 3 point shooting.

[Fudge]

Lol @ Bosh being incredibly raw.

:facepalm

[russwest0]

Heat fans scared of the moment Durant wins one and then everyone looks back and realizes after LeBron lost in the Finals with Cleveland he bitched out and took the shortcut while Durant simply elevated his game and won with the team that drafted him putting him at minimum ahead of LeBron on all all time lists.

[DMV2]

Perfect description of Bosh. :lol Only thing Bosh has over Ibaka is 3 point shooting.
Did you watched the 2012 Finals?

[JT123]

Lol @ Bosh being incredibly raw.

:facepalm
What can Bosh do offensively other than hit open jumpers? NOTHING! You ever see him try to go at someone in the post? It's cringeworthy to watch. :facepalm

[Fudge]

What can Bosh do offensively other than hit open jumpers? NOTHING! You ever see him try to go at someone in the post? It's cringeworthy to watch. :facepalm
Stahp. :facepalm

[LoneyROY7]

What can Bosh do offensively other than hit open jumpers? NOTHING! You ever see him try to go at someone in the post? It's cringeworthy to watch. :facepalm

Did you start watching basketball in 2011?

[dannywpt]

What can Bosh do offensively other than hit open jumpers? NOTHING! You ever see him try to go at someone in the post? It's cringeworthy to watch. :facepalm

Exposed summer 2012 bandwagoner

[JT123]

Did you start watching basketball in 2011?
What Bosh did in Toronto is irrelevant. Since he has been in a Miami Heat uniform he can't do shit in the post against anyone that is even remotely decent! Somebody do me a favor and find some footage of Bosh dominating someone in the post while in a Miami Heat uniform. :lol You won't find it cause it doesn't exist.

[LoneyROY7]

What Bosh did in Toronto is irrelevant. Since he has been in a Miami Heat uniform he can't do shit in the post against anyone that is even remotely decent! Somebody do me a favor and find some footage of Bosh dominating someone in the post while in a Miami Heat uniform. :lol You won't find it cause it doesn't exist.

No, it's most certainly not.

[Budadiiii]

What Bosh did in Toronto is irrelevant. Since he has been in a Miami Heat uniform he can't do shit in the post against anyone that is even remotely decent! Somebody do me a favor and find some footage of Bosh dominating someone in the post while in a Miami Heat uniform. :lol You won't find it cause it doesn't exist.
So Bosh needs to dominate people in the post to get your respect? :facepalm

he's a finesse player you clown. A damn good one.

[JT123]

No, it's most certainly not.
Did you watch the Miami and Memphis game a few weeks ago? Bosh tried to go at Gasol a few times and got stripped or blocked EVERY time! :facepalm
And people wonder why the Heat don't run plays for him. :rolleyes:

[Fudge]

Bosh is a Top 10 big man in the league. Wish OKC had him.

[JT123]

So Bosh needs to dominate people in the post to get your respect? :facepalm

he's a finesse player you clown. A damn good one.
So you admit that Bosh isn't any more versatile on offense than Ibaka. Glad you agree. :cheers:

[JT123]

Bosh is a Top 10 big man in the league. Wish OKC had him.
LOL at OKC fans acting like Ibaka is some scrub! Guy gives you the exact same scoring production as Bosh, only with better efficiency, rebounding, and shot blocking. :coleman:

[DMV2]

What Bosh did in Toronto is irrelevant. Since he has been in a Miami Heat uniform he can't do shit in the post against anyone that is even remotely decent! Somebody do me a favor and find some footage of Bosh dominating someone in the post while in a Miami Heat uniform. :lol You won't find it cause it doesn't exist.
I guess you really didn't watch the 2012 Finals. Bosh single-handedly owned OKC frontcourt in the post, yes, that includes Ibaka, Collision, and Perkins.

That was 2 years ago, maybe Ibaka is on Bosh level now. I don't know...we'll have to see when they face in the Finals.

[JT123]

I guess you really didn't watch the 2012 Finals. Bosh single-handedly owned OKC frontcourt in the post, yes, that includes Ibaka, Collision, and Perkins.

That was 2 years ago, maybe Ibaka got on Bosh level. I don't know...we'll have to see when they face in the Finals.
Bosh had a good series, but that doesn't mean he owned anyone in the post. :oldlol: Bosh scored his points the same way he always does, open jump shots created by Lebron and Wade. I'm still waiting for someone to post the footage of Bosh dominating in the post. :confusedshrug:

[BlackVVaves]

Dirk's run > Durant's

He beat Kobe, and your GOAT boy Durant and LeBron/Wade.

Also, Dirks' run actually happened whereas Durant's is still hypothetical.

Not for nothing, but I wouldn't boast about Dirk beating a one-legged Kobe or 22 year old KD.

It's not the same as saying he beat prime Kobe or KD, which is clearly what you are trying to do.

And I don't see why. Beating prime Bron/Wade/Bosh is all the validation Dirk's run needs.

[Fudge]

Bosh is a top 10 big man in the league. Be grateful you even have him alongside LeBron. Have some respect.

[BlackVVaves]

lol the amount of cringe in this post is ridiculous. Even if Durant wins a ring this year, his run isn't better than Dirk's and he needs at least 6 FMVPs to be a GOAT candidate GTFO out of here w/ this bullshit you're spewing :lol

Not sure how you can come to that conclusion when KD's playoff run hasn't even happened yet.

If KD puts up his season averages in the playoffs en route to a title, not sure how that doesn't compare to Dirk's.

He would have gotten MVP, FMVP, and the scoring title all in the same year.

I agree though that anyone saying KD is automatically Top 10 with merely one ring is idiotic :facepalm

[Marlo_Stanfield]

Bosh is a top 10 big man in the league. Be grateful you even have him alongside LeBron. Have some respect.
that doesnt change the fact that he is no real Center and Miami gets destroyed by any real Bigmen:facepalm

[DMV2]

Bosh had a good series, but that doesn't mean he owned anyone in the post. :oldlol: Bosh scored his points the same way he always does, open jump shots created by Lebron and Wade. I'm still waiting for someone to post the footage of Bosh dominating in the post. :confusedshrug:
Hmmm no, Bosh did own the post vs OKC. He strictly played inside in that series, outrebounded Ibaka-Perk-Collison in at least 2 of the games and matching their combined effort in another game. Bosh was the x-factor in that series.

Bosh was the reason why LeBron was living inside the paint that entire series.

If you actually watched that series you'd wouldn't be asking for footage.

[red1]

Bosh is a top 10 big man in the league. Be grateful you even have him alongside LeBron. Have some respect.
these heat bandwagoners are filth :facepalm

[JT123]

Hmmm no, Bosh did own the post vs OKC. He strictly played inside in that series, outrebounded Ibaka-Perk-Collison in at least 2 of the games and matching their combined effort in another game. Bosh was the x-factor in that series.

Bosh was the reason why LeBron was living inside the paint that entire series.

If you actually watched that series you'd wouldn't be asking for footage.
Footage or it didn't happen. :sleeping I watched every second of that series by the way.

[NuggetsFan]

Hope they don't win it again but I'd put my money on Miami. OKC/S.A next.

[raprap]

If okc dont win, no one would criticize durant aside from his haters. Us objective fans dont really care about durant. No one cares about him not winning. He is not a polarizing player like mj kobe and bron.

[Fudge]

these heat bandwagoners are filth :facepalm
Filthy, disgusting, dirty pre-teen creatures. No liiiiiie.

[JT123]

If okc dont win, no one would criticize durant aside from his haters. Us objective fans dont really care about durant. No one cares about him not winning. He is not a polarizing player like mj kobe and bron.
Tells me all I need to know about Durant's supposed greatness. :oldlol:

[red1]

Filthy, disgusting, dirty pre-teen creatures. No liiiiiie.
Im sure they smell bad too. Man I hate kids

[Fudge]

Im sure they smell bad too. Man I hate kids
Glasses, acne, body odor, anti-social, on some real foul shit.

:facepalm

Me too, bro. Me too.

[NumberSix]

that doesnt change the fact that he is no real Center and Miami gets destroyed by any real Bigmen:facepalm
Miami is getting a new center next season though....





http://www.fightersgeneration.com/np5/char/ssf2hd/sagat-hdstance.gif

[russwest0]

Plays like shit in the Finals and team loses, leaves and teams up with his competition, finally wins a ring.

VS

Plays well in the finals but team loses, stays with team and wins a ring.

This is the shit LeBron stans are so scared of. No other reason I can think of for them to be THIS insecure.

[Budadiiii]

Glasses, acne, body odor, anti-social, on some real foul shit.

:facepalm

Me too, bro. Me too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v340/Majorkerina/Screen%20Captures/Powerpuff%20Girls/Collect%20Her/POWERPUFF_GIRLS_DISC_2A-12.jpg

Exactly how I envision NumberSix.

[Fudge]

:oldlol:

Y'all know i'm right doe.