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Fudge
04-18-2014, 04:04 PM
Or nah?

Imagine those two 3 years from now. Total domination in the paint on both ends.

MP.Trey
04-18-2014, 04:05 PM
Noel hasn't even played a game yet. Don't see how anyone could tell at this point.

Levity
04-18-2014, 04:06 PM
didnt they have to give up a 1st round pick for this draft, as well as noel to get holiday?

so yeah, i think they should have kept him just to see what kind of potential there was with a healthy front court.

Marlo_Stanfield
04-18-2014, 04:07 PM
Davis, Noel Ajinca... that would be unreal defensively and lenght wise.
cant really fail to create a contender out of this core. :facepalm

HomieWeMajor
04-18-2014, 04:10 PM
Davis and Noel Frontcourt ?
So many players and white women would be intimidated by all that length.

ABfor3
04-18-2014, 04:11 PM
Dude already having injuries, haven't seen play an NBA game. Who knows how he'll pan out..

Rocketswin2013
04-18-2014, 04:16 PM
Until he actually plays an NBA game, he is no better as a player than Vasilis Spanoulis.

wally_world
04-18-2014, 04:17 PM
Maybe not, but they definitely shouldn't have thrown in their 1st rounder just to get Jrue.

Fudge
04-18-2014, 04:20 PM
They fcuking missed out on the next TD/D Rob duo. :facepalm

Idiots.

Shade8780
04-18-2014, 04:23 PM
Block City :bowdown: Would've been amazing. Why the **** would you trade him for Holiday, as well as giving up a 2014 first round pick?!

DMAVS41
04-18-2014, 04:33 PM
Hell yes...especially as it would have allowed them keep their pick this year...and avoid the cap hell they got themselves into.

The Sixers future looks great...they are going to get potentially the first and like 8th pick.

The Pelicans now most likely don't get their pick this year unless it falls in the top 3 iirc.

Haha...just awful.

Milbuck
04-18-2014, 04:41 PM
Or nah?

Please don't :oldlol:

dzav323
04-18-2014, 06:03 PM
No the Twig Towers would not have worked. Noel is going to get manhandeled when he finally gets on the court. 6'11, 220lbs isn't gonna cut it. Pels got a solid point guard in Holiday, and the Sixers got a twig who ZERO offensive game who hasn't played a second in the league. They'll get a good, not great player like McDerrmott or Rodney Hood.

Had the Pels not had all of the injuries they had this season, they would have been pushing 42-45 wins this season. Still missing the playoffs, but would have pushed the pick back a few spots.

JimmyMcAdocious
04-18-2014, 06:06 PM
You make a lot of assumptions for someone who keeps saying he hasn't played a minute.

Basketbolero
04-18-2014, 06:31 PM
I feel like this is asked every couple of months... and will keep coming up for as long as Noel plays in the NBA, especially if he has an at least decent career.

For me the answer is yes. Pelicans had somewhat of a panic attack and overspent on unnecessary moves, IMO.

El Kabong
04-18-2014, 06:36 PM
Dude already having injuries, haven't seen play an NBA game. Who knows how he'll pan out..
True, but would you rather have a guy not play who's on a rookie contract, or trade Noel and another first so you can have Jrue Holiday and Tyreke Evans taking up a ton of your capspace?

Rocketswin2013
04-18-2014, 06:39 PM
The only similarity Nerlens Noel and David Robinson have is that they are(were) both very undersized weight wise and have pretty impressive defensive instincts.....

RidonKs
04-18-2014, 06:57 PM
the response to the trade was pretty unanimous on this site and imo for good reason. even if noel is plagued by injuries for his entire career or just flat out busts, it remains a bad trade at the time. i wasn't convinced of that fact at the time but after watching jrue and seeing the pg talent continuing to rise around the league, there's just no way to justify it even in hindsight.

so yes they should have kept noel. though after his having missed his first year, they're tentatively better off having shipped him out.

blablabla
04-18-2014, 07:11 PM
Jrue Holiday is not even a top 10 point guard, now of course we don't know how Noel will pan out but he impressed me during his stay at Kentucky and I think he could have the potential to be a very scary defensive player in the NBA. For example the Rockets gave up a lot less for a franchise player in James Harden. I of course understand the move from a business perspective, the Pelicans are under a new ownership and wanted to draw fans into the Arena with Playoff basketball, injury problems fvcked those plans up and right now they are stuck with 4 big contracts but they are far from doomed by the time Davis reaches his prime they are going to have plenty of cap space to put a championship team around him.
I don't think we would be having this discussion right now if they reached a playoff spot.

Embers
04-18-2014, 07:38 PM
If they knew they were going to get Tyreke they should have never got Jrue. They should have backed Evans in at PG and kept Noel + picks.

Still a chance at keeping pick. They may get a pick inside the top 5.

I hope they fluke pick 1

Davis + Embiid would be hilarious

bigt
04-19-2014, 03:28 AM
They should have just for the chance to have Block City. Peli's have been plagued by injuries this season so it would have been no different this season, plus they would of kept this season's pick.

I think for a small market team like the Pelicans, their team needs something special for people to care. Having Davis in the first place of course helps, but I think Davis/Noel would have got people watching more than Davis/Holiday

DMAVS41
04-19-2014, 03:44 AM
Jrue Holiday is not even a top 10 point guard, now of course we don't know how Noel will pan out but he impressed me during his stay at Kentucky and I think he could have the potential to be a very scary defensive player in the NBA. For example the Rockets gave up a lot less for a franchise player in James Harden. I of course understand the move from a business perspective, the Pelicans are under a new ownership and wanted to draw fans into the Arena with Playoff basketball, injury problems fvcked those plans up and right now they are stuck with 4 big contracts but they are far from doomed by the time Davis reaches his prime they are going to have plenty of cap space to put a championship team around him.
I don't think we would be having this discussion right now if they reached a playoff spot.

Sure, but why basically waste key years in which they could have developed the players around Davis that will be there for title runs.

Now it's going to be reliant on free agency stuff. They don't have their pick this year either.

So they essentially traded the 6th pick and 10th pick for Jrue Holiday. I just don't see why a team that is not even likely to make the playoffs for a year or two would do that. It makes no sense at all.

And so when all these contracts are up, they are going to have to find all the players to put around Davis. instead, if they had kept the picks and been bad this year and next...they'd have 3 top ten picks around Davis while they built up cap room and allowed their young guys to all get burn.

lets say they make the playoffs and even win a series next year. is that even a good thing for this team? think about all the guys...you gonna bring back eric gordon when he expires in 2016?

That is the sick thing...this team, even if it gets momentum over the next 2 years...will likely not look at all the same in the future.

Thorpesaurous
04-19-2014, 06:56 AM
Hell yes...especially as it would have allowed them keep their pick this year...and avoid the cap hell they got themselves into.

The Sixers future looks great...they are going to get potentially the first and like 8th pick.

The Pelicans now most likely don't get their pick this year unless it falls in the top 3 iirc.

Haha...just awful.


This is it. Even if Noel never suits up and they could pass his rookie contract onto insurance, it'd be better than giving up a first for the right to overpay Jrue Holliday.

Random_Guy
04-19-2014, 07:03 AM
How about we wait until Noel play? right now it looks terrible for the pelicans, but jrue is a proven player and all star. For all we know the 8th pick could be a bust and Noel might be the next greg oden(I hope not becauseI hate player injuries), but it is what it is.
These sort of shit need to be evaluated a few years down the line, not now when both of the players that the pelicans traded has never played a single second on a nba court.

2LeTTeRS
04-19-2014, 08:26 AM
Why is this thread made every 3-4 months when every guy but Oladipo who was picked instead of Noel sucked (especially Bennett, Porter, and Len)? Say what you will about Jrue but he had much more of an impact than any of those guys.