List of PFs better than Chris Bosh.

[Connor B]

Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Lemarcus Aldridge, David Lee, Serge Ibaka, Paul Milsap, Zach Randolph, Dirk Nowitzski, and even Demarcus Cousins, Andre Drummond, Greg Monroe, and Tim Duncan (when they have played PF).

Who else? I must be missing someone.

[FLDFSU]

But ISH told me that Bosh was a superstar, and would be a 28/10 guy if not for Lebron.

[KDthunderup]

So 9? Still top 10 PF

[LongLiveTheKing]

Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Lemarcus Aldridge, David Lee, Serge Ibaka, Paul Milsap, Zach Randolph, Dirk Nowitzski, and even Demarcus Cousins, Andre Drummond, Greg Monroe, and Tim Duncan (when they have played PF).

Who else? I must be missing someone.
Bosh is better than all them for sure.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Thaddeus Young

[Milbuck]

John Henson

[FLDFSU]

Bosh is better than all them for sure.

Bosh is not better than z-bo, lee, or serge...

[SilkkTheShocker]

Even prime Bosh had little impact. 3 playoff wins in 7 years in Toronto :oldlol:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Even prime Bosh had little impact. 3 playoff wins in 7 years in Toronto :oldlol:

Using your logic, pre-2004 KG had little impact (7 playoff wins in 8 seasons).

Goddamn homers.

[Legends66NBA7]

Using your logic, pre-2004 KG had little impact (7 playoff wins in 8 seasons).

Goddamn homers.

Let's take a look at the individual production in those wins:

Garnett

1) 15pts (7-14fg; 1-1ft) 8reb 4ast 4blk 1t/o

2) 19pts (9-18fg; 1-2ft) 8reb 6ast 2stl 3blk 4t/o

3) 23pts (11-22fg; 1-1 3pt) 13reb 10ast 2t/o

4) 23pts (11-22fg; 1-2ft) 12reb 6ast 3stl 2blk 4t/o

5) 22pts (7-14fg; 0-1 3pt; 8-10ft) 8reb 4ast 1blk 1t/o

6) 33pts (15-31fg; 3-3ft) 14reb 4ast 2stl 4blk 4t/o

7) 35pts (15-21fg; 1-2 3pt; 4-6ft) 20reb 7ast 2stl 1blk 2t/o

Total: 24.2ppg 11.9rpg 5.9apg 1.3spg 2.1bpg 2.6tpg on 52.8%fg (75-142) 50%3pt (2-4) 75%ft (18-24). 4 double doubles and 1 triple doubles.

Bosh

1) 25pts (10-20fg; 5-6ft) 13reb 2blk 2t/o

2) 11pts (3-11fg; 5-6ft) 8reb 4blk 1t/o

3) 15pts (6-14fg; 0-3 3pt; 3-4ft) 5reb 5ast 1stl 1blk 4t/o

Total: 17ppg 8.7rpg 1.7apg 0.3spg 2.3bpg 2.3tpg on 42.2%fg (19-45) 0%3pt (0-3) 81.3%ft (13-16). 1 double double.


Garnett was far more impacful and was the main reason those Timberwolves teams won. Bosh is the other way. He was actually outplayed by his teammates - Anthony Parker, T.J. Ford (twice), and Jose Calderon (twice)... in all 3 wins.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Bosh is not better than z-bo, lee, or serge...
Chris Bosh is better than all those 3.
He might not be better than Zbo or Lee down low. Or better than Ibaka on defense, but he is a good defender/blocker and can score in a lot of ways.

[Trollsmasher]

And that's his natural position:lol

It's even worse at center

[Hoopz2332]

dude has been playing soft as hell this year:coleman:

[ArbitraryWater]

So 9? Still top 10 PF


From 30 starting PF's he's Nr.10? That's almost average

[Random_Guy]

being serious for a second, its like bosh doesnt care anymore.

[Doranku]

Chris Bosh, just one of many victims who has suffered from the "LeBron Effect".

[Dro]

Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Lemarcus Aldridge, David Lee, Serge Ibaka, Paul Milsap, Zach Randolph, Dirk Nowitzski, and even Demarcus Cousins, Andre Drummond, Greg Monroe, and Tim Duncan (when they have played PF).

Who else? I must be missing someone.
Bosh is better than Milsap, Ibaka, Lee, Drummond, and Monroe. Bosh is a legit 20/10 player on any other team with good efficiency...Good speed, very good shooter for his position, decent finisher, good rebounder when he wants to be. He's been a 1st option. Saying those guys are better than him is kind of disrespectful to Bosh...

[ArbitraryWater]

Bosh has about as much value as Kyle Korver... runs around the perimeter and shoots jump shots. That's all they do. And Korver is a much better shooter too.

Bosh doesn't give you anything outside of shooting.

He's a role player, and has been one ever since he came to the Miami Heat, aka since he abandoned the interior/block/post game to play on the perimeter.

His defensive value can be described as negative impact.

[Warfan]

Bosh has about as much value as Kyle Korver... runs around the perimeter and shoots jump shots. That's all they do. And Korver is a much better shooter too.

Bosh doesn't give you anything outside of shooting.

He's a role player, and has been one ever since he came to the Miami Heat, aka since he abandoned the interior/block/post game to play on the perimeter.

His defensive value can be described as negative impact.

Really??
Don't get me wrong, I hate Bosh, think he's a huge frontrunner and pu$$y, but I hope you're being sarcastic, gtfo comparing him to Korver.

[imdaman99]

Bosh was averaging 24-11 in his final year at Toronto before colluding with the Choken One.

And his stats have been declining every year while playing with this guy. It was decided Bran would be the only one who wasn't going to sacrifice touches because apparently Bran would throw playoff games if he wasn't dominating :confusedshrug:

But any other PF would switch places with him (maybe not Duncan) because they would want rings + getting paid.

[Dro]

Bosh has about as much value as Kyle Korver... runs around the perimeter and shoots jump shots. That's all they do. And Korver is a much better shooter too.

Bosh doesn't give you anything outside of shooting.

He's a role player, and has been one ever since he came to the Miami Heat, aka since he abandoned the interior/block/post game to play on the perimeter.

His defensive value can be described as negative impact.
I assume this is sarcasm and a shot at those who are clowning Bosh..If so, I agree...

[SilkkTheShocker]

Anytime Bosh plays bad, LeBron always gets blamed for it. Was it LeBron's fault last season Bosh got outplayed by almost every big man he went against last postseason?

[HiphopRelated]

Bosh has about as much value as Kyle Korver... runs around the perimeter and shoots jump shots. That's all they do. And Korver is a much better shooter too.

Bosh doesn't give you anything outside of shooting.

He's a role player, and has been one ever since he came to the Miami Heat, aka since he abandoned the interior/block/post game to play on the perimeter.

His defensive value can be described as negative impact.
I hate these jackasses parading as Heat fans

[Hoopz2332]

I hate these jackasses parading as Heat fans


go to heat realgm or heat forums and you'll see "real" heat fans calling Bosh a big softy:biggums:

[SilkkTheShocker]

Would not care if Miami replaced him with someone that isn't a gigantic p.ussy next season

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Top 4 PF in the East by your own questionable list isn't good enough?

:facepalm

[jzek]

He always averages something like 20 and 10 a month before the All-Star break just so he gets voted then plays like a scrub every other month. :facepalm

[Yao Ming's Foot]

Let the record show that Chris Bosh is only the 2nd best PF in the Eastern Conference playoffs right now...how does Lebron do it?????

[mistergreens]

Kevin Love and Shved for Chris Bosh in offseason. This way Minny gets something.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Let the record show that Chris Bosh is only the 2nd best PF in the Eastern Conference playoffs right now...how does Lebron do it?????

You still can't get over LeBron being a better player than Kobe was, can you? :oldlol:

[Yao Ming's Foot]

You still can't get over LeBron being a better player than Kobe was, can you? :oldlol:

Who said anything about Kobe? Try to keep up. We are talking about Chris Bosh and other PFs in here.

[Le Shaqtus]

Ibaka is not better than Bosh :facepalm

[red1]

Miami doesnt use him properly. What do you expect when you routinely match him up with heavier and stronger players. Height is not the only aspect of size. Dont blame the player for something that is the GMs responsibility. He outright said that he hates playing center

[Basketbolero]

You kids must be scared shitless. Game 1 of 1st round vs Bobcats and already preparing excuses before real playoff basketball starts.

[pegasus]

Chris Bosh, just one of many victims who has suffered from the "LeBron Effect".
Yep. Lebron turns stars into role players, everybody knows that.

I'd love it if Bosh came to Chicago if we can't get Melo in the off-season. He would prove his worth and get the credit he deserves.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Ibaka is not better than Bosh :facepalm
Better player? No. Better third option? Absolutely

[J Shuttlesworth]

Yep. Lebron turns stars into role players, everybody knows that.

I'd love it if Bosh came to Chicago if we can't get Melo in the off-season. He would prove his worth and get the credit he deserves.
Bosh is shooting his career high FG% in Miami's system. Obviously, he's a third option so he won't get as many pts as he did in Toronto, but he's still getting 16.6 PPG on over 51% shooting this year. He is as efficient as ever but he still gets out-rebounded by LeBron. There is no "LeBron effect" causing him to get out rebounded :facepalm Nobody is stopping Bosh from going through the lane and getting easier looks. If Birdman can get easy looks from LeBron, why doesn't Bosh? And what's Bosh's excuse for being outrebounded by LeBron? IB"LeBroneffect":facepalm

[JT123]

Bosh is shooting his career high FG% in Miami's system. Obviously, he's a third option so he won't get as many pts as he did in Toronto, but he's still getting 16.6 PPG on over 51% shooting this year. He is as efficient as ever but he still gets out-rebounded by LeBron. There is no "LeBron effect" causing him to get out rebounded :facepalm Nobody is stopping Bosh from going through the lane and getting easier looks. If Birdman can get easy looks from LeBron, why doesn't Bosh? And what's Bosh's excuse for being outrebounded by LeBron? IB"LeBroneffect":facepalm
:applause: The Bosh supporters aka "Lebron haters" have no answer for this. :oldlol:

[Cone]

overrated just like KG.

[ralph_i_el]

Bosh should leave the Heat and shut you all up. People on here don't understand how important a players role is to their play

[scm5]

Bosh is shooting his career high FG% in Miami's system. Obviously, he's a third option so he won't get as many pts as he did in Toronto, but he's still getting 16.6 PPG on over 51% shooting this year. He is as efficient as ever but he still gets out-rebounded by LeBron. There is no "LeBron effect" causing him to get out rebounded :facepalm Nobody is stopping Bosh from going through the lane and getting easier looks. If Birdman can get easy looks from LeBron, why doesn't Bosh? And what's Bosh's excuse for being outrebounded by LeBron? IB"LeBroneffect":facepalm

Do you realize:

Bosh is playing just 32mpg compared to Lebron's 38mpg

Lebron is playing primarily PF this season while Bosh is playing primarily C

Bosh is playing further from the basket by design. He's an incredibly efficient mid-range shooter, averaging roughly 49% from midrange. This creates a lot of spacing for Lebron and Wade.

[Levity]

A lot of the players OP listed would be completely underwhelming if they were made to be the 3rd option and play out of position/their comfort zone.

[Dro]

A lot of the players OP listed would be completely underwhelming if they were made to be the 3rd option and play out of position/their comfort zone.
This is ish where ignorance>>>>>>>>>>>>basic logic...

[ImKobe]

Better player? No. Better third option? Absolutely

They both play a similar way as 3rd options & Ibaka is better at every aspect, except for maybe double teaming on the defensive end. Bosh is a sneaky defender & he really helped Wade & Bron shut Parker & Manu down in the Finals.

[scm5]

They both play a similar role & Ibaka is better at every aspect, except for maybe double teaming on the defensive end. Bosh is a sneaky defender & he really helped Wade & Bron shut Parker & Manu down in the Finals.


Ibaka is a better third option than Bosh is because of his abilities as a rim-protector.

Bosh is a better player overall, and it's not really close.

[Trollsmasher]

Miami doesnt use him properly. What do you expect when you routinely match him up with heavier and stronger players. Height is not the only aspect of size. Dont blame the player for something that is the GMs responsibility. He outright said that he hates playing center
He has been playing just as shitty (maybe even worse) with Haslem, Oden and Birdman playing 5 most of the time when he is on the floor in the last few months.

Bosh is simply a bitch. He has got no testosterone. He can't bang in the post because he is too weak. He will lose every single 50/50 battle for a rebound (unless he goes against 6'6 Manu of course) and he will get outplayed by every decent bigman, regardless of him playing as C or PF.

And it gets only worse in the playoffs.

You must be really a bitch when you get regularly outplayed by a 36 years old ex-methhead that plays 20 minutes a game.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Do you realize:

Bosh is playing just 32mpg compared to Lebron's 38mpg

Lebron is playing primarily PF this season while Bosh is playing primarily C

Bosh is playing further from the basket by design. He's an incredibly efficient mid-range shooter, averaging roughly 49% from midrange. This creates a lot of spacing for Lebron and Wade.
The spacing is great, but Bosh barely outrebounds LeBron per 36. Chris Bosh on the raptors wasn't just a mid range guy. If he had a stronger inside presence, he could get some defensive attention at him and get some open looks for someone else on the perimeter. Bosh is great don't get me wrong, but it's not uncommon for him to under perform in the playoffs... mainly because he relies too much on his jumper.

Take a look at Ibaka, for example. He's also a 3rd option, but he's able to put up the same PPG as Bosh but gets more rebounds, and has a much more significant defensive presence. You can't have it all, but a player like that would fit much better into Miami's system than Bosh (especially since Ibaka has a legit jump shot that can spread the floor)

[ralph_i_el]

Take a look at Ibaka, for example. He's also a 3rd option, but he's able to put up the same PPG as Bosh but gets more rebounds, and has a much more significant defensive presence. You can't have it all, but a player like that would fit much better into Miami's system than Bosh (especially since Ibaka has a legit jump shot that can spread the floor)

so Ibaka is better than Bosh as a 3rd option, and Bosh is a better 1st option than Ibaka any day.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Damn OP and company getting ethere'd

Heat fans are the only fan base who wins a playoff game and then makes threads shitting on one of their best players after the game

Pathetic

[J Shuttlesworth]

so Ibaka is better than Bosh as a 3rd option, and Bosh is a better 1st option than Ibaka any day.
Absolutely. Bosh would make a better second option too. Ibaka's not the type of guy to pick up the slack when Westbrook gets injured (Durant does) but Bosh is good enough to pick up the slack with Wade out. They both have the same role right now (3rd option behind 2 great scorers) but Ibaka's defense makes him better for the role than Bosh is. If i was building a team from scratch, I'd take Bosh over Ibaka any day.

[Le Shaqtus]

Damn OP and company getting ethere'd

Heat fans are the only fan base who wins a playoff game and then makes threads shitting on one of their best players after the game

Pathetic

Fans don't trash their own players, stans do.

[Sarcastic]

Not bad for a guy that had the most important rebound and assist of Lebron's career.

[Dro]

Not bad for a guy that had the most important rebound and assist of Lebron's career.
:lebronamazed:




:lol

[Dro]

Not bad for a guy that had the most important rebound and assist of Lebron's career.
Nobody gonna respond to this?

[Hoopz2332]

Kevin Love, Blake Griffin, Anthony Davis, Lemarcus Aldridge, David Lee, Serge Ibaka, Paul Milsap, Zach Randolph, Dirk Nowitzski, and even Demarcus Cousins, Andre Drummond, Greg Monroe, and Tim Duncan (when they have played PF).

Who else? I must be missing someone.


greg monroe?:coleman:

[DaSeba5]

Damn OP and company getting ethere'd

Heat fans are the only fan base who wins a playoff game and then makes threads shitting on one of their best players after the game

Pathetic

You mean player stans.