LMA joins Kobe, Shaq, Hakeem, Lebron & Howard

[ImKobe]

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/458112319793659904

6th player since 1978 to put up 45+ points & 15+ rebounds :applause:

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe :bowdown:

[christian1923]

Kobe :bowdown:

[navy]

Why 1978?

[Deuce Bigalow]

http://s2.postimg.org/bxvabl2eh/image.jpg

[inclinerator]

that's nothing
wilt averages that





















o u meant playoffs

[moe94]

Kobe holding down the guards

What a beast

[Jameerthefear]

I actually forgot Howard had that game.

[ImKobe]

http://s2.postimg.org/bxvabl2eh/image.jpg

Kobe has the highest scoring one :banana:

[SpecialQue]

http://s2.postimg.org/bxvabl2eh/image.jpg

They always bust out these weird-ass stats. Who the fvck's in charge of looking this shit up?

[sammichoffate]

Kobe shouldn't be on that list, that's just absurd :bowdown:

[ImKobe]

Kobe holding down the guards

What a beast

Even crazier, he followed that game up with 45 points and 10 rebounds WCF Game 1 against the Spurs :bowdown:

[Inferno]

Surprised Kobe's on it. Damn.

[Thorn]

for what it's worth Hakeem's game is 49/25

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebron mothfvckin JAMES !!!

Easily the most impressive out of the lot.

Wow, just wow

Lemothafvckin KING JAMES, folks !

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Believe it or not, Shaq got his 46 on 5 free throw attempts (made 4).

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

my nikka Kobe doin work:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:
a GUARD doe??:biggums: :biggums:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Where are the highlights from that Kobe game?

[PsychoBe]

Surprised Kobe's on it. Damn.

kobe had vintage performances like these during the entire 3-peat. completely dismantled those western conference teams.

[Heavincent]

Kobe also had a 48/10 game in 08. A guard with three 45+/10+ playoff games :bowdown:

[moe94]

Lebron mothfvckin JAMES !!!

Easily the most impressive out of the lot.

Wow, just wow

Lemothafvckin KING JAMES, folks !

:biggums: :roll:

[Draz]

He also did that against another player who did put those numbers up once before as well,

[DMV2]

45-15 club is elite exclusive club for sure. :applause:

[Milbuck]

How the **** is Kobe on there :oldlol:

[Warfan]

People don't remember kobes game??
I remember the next game he went into San Antonio and shit on the spurs with another 40+ game. Kobe was a beast in 01.

[Im Still Ballin]

Lebron did it against the greatest defensive team of all time.

Lechievement: Unlocked. (10,000 LeGamer points)

[MUGEN]

LMA :bowdown:

[sammichoffate]

People don't remember kobes game??
I remember the next game he went into San Antonio and shit on the spurs with another 40+ game. Kobe was a beast in 01.45/10/5 :eek:

[Deuce Bigalow]

People don't remember kobes game??
I remember the next game he went into San Antonio and shit on the spurs with another 40+ game. Kobe was a beast in 01.
45/10 in that next game @ San Antonio

[KyleKong]

They always bust out these weird-ass stats. Who the fvck's in charge of looking this shit up?

Underdog!

http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/ernie-underdog-make-up.png

[Heavincent]

People don't remember kobes game??
I remember the next game he went into San Antonio and shit on the spurs with another 40+ game. Kobe was a beast in 01.

Yup, back to back 40+/10+ games on the road in the playoffs. Yet Kobe's peak play "wasn't that impressive" according to retard Kobe detractors.

[sammichoffate]

How the **** is Kobe on there :oldlol:Goatbe gonna GOAT :rockon:

[Im Still Ballin]

People don't remember kobes game??
I remember the next game he went into San Antonio and shit on the spurs with another 40+ game. Kobe was a beast in 01.

Frobe. A scientifically engineered soldier with twice as much ability than post Shaq Kobe2d

[Cold soul]

Yup, back to back 40+/10+ games on the road in the playoffs. Yet Kobe's peak play "wasn't that impressive" according to retard Kobe detractors.

I think most here don't remember #8 Kobe during three peat years which is too bad.

[sammichoffate]

I think most here don't remember #8 Kobe during three peat years.I barely remember those games, I think I was 9 or 10 :(

[secund2nun]

Kobe has the highest scoring one :banana:

Kobe's was the worst one. Shaq was taking up doubles leaving Kobe with less coverage unlike all of the other players who faced a lot more coverage than Kobe did. Also knowing Kobe I bet he had one of the least efficient ones of the group.

[Heavincent]

Kobe's was the worst one. Shaq was taking up doubles leaving Kobe with less coverage unlike all of the other players who faced a lot more coverage than Kobe did. Also knowing Kobe I bet he had one of the least efficient ones of the group.

This mental midget pretending as if he watched basketball before Lebron :oldlol:

[secund2nun]

Yup, back to back 40+/10+ games on the road in the playoffs. Yet Kobe's peak play "wasn't that impressive" according to retard Kobe detractors.

Prime Kobe= first round loser 7th seed....that's simply the truth.

[secund2nun]

This mental midget pretending as if he watched basketball before Lebron :oldlol:

I did watch basketball before Lebron. Don't get mad at the truth.

[RoseCity07]

Aldridge, Kobe, and Shaq did it against good teams. LOL at Atlanta and Boston.

[sammichoffate]

Kobe's was the worst one. Shaq was taking up doubles leaving Kobe with less coverage unlike all of the other players who faced a lot more coverage than Kobe did. Also knowing Kobe I bet he had one of the least efficient ones of the group.15/29 FG's, 17-19 FT's. Yeah he was REAL inefficient :rolleyes: Get the hell out with that bs you hatin' scrub :lol

[Cold soul]

15/29 FG's, 17-19 FT's. Yeah he was REAL inefficient :rolleyes: Get the hell out with that bs you hatin' scrub :lol

Just ignore the low life loser. I believe most here have him on ignore anyway.

[Heavincent]

Prime Kobe= first round loser 7th seed....that's simply the truth.

Prime Lebron = outscored by Jason Terry...that's simply the truth.

[Heavincent]

I did watch basketball before Lebron. Don't get mad at the truth.

Sure you did.

[ImKobe]

Kobe's was the worst one. Shaq was taking up doubles leaving Kobe with less coverage unlike all of the other players who faced a lot more coverage than Kobe did. Also knowing Kobe I bet he had one of the least efficient ones of the group.

48 pts on 29 shots, 16 reb 3 ast 2 stl 1 blk, only 2 TOs
Aldridge had 46 points on 31 shots
Lebron had 45 on 26 shots, but he shot 56% on FTs & had 0 stls, 0 blks & 4 TOs

Shaq had 46 on 33 shots, but he also had 17 rebs & 5 blocks, but Kobe's gamescore is higher than his

Howard took only 23 shots for 46 points, but he missed 8 out of 22 FTs and had 8 TOs

[sammichoffate]

Just ignore the low life loser. I believe most here have him on ignore anyway.Noted, ty mate. :cheers:

[Cold soul]

Noted, ty mate. :cheers:

Np, bro. :cheers:

[Jameerthefear]

Bean on there? Worse player on that list tbh.

[PyrrhusX]

Kobe :bowdown:

[Keno]

which one of these was an elimination game on the road?

[ImKobe]

which one of these was an elimination game on the road?

Kobe eliminated the Queens on the road with his game :cheers: and he followed it up with 45 points 10 rebounds the next game on the road in San Antonio :cheers:

[bballnoob1192]

can you ****ing stans of both lebron and kobe plez stfu. goddamn just enjoy them being great and acheiving this feat instead of trying to compare who got 1 more assist, 2 more steals, or shot 1% better. i swear you motha****ers are straight retarded

[Heavincent]

which one of these was an elimination game on the road?

Kobe actually buried teams quickly, so it never had to come to that.

[ImKobe]

Kobe actually buried teams quickly, so it never had to come to that.

Funny thing is that Kobe's game eliminated a team from the POs on the road while Lebron just kept his team alive.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Kobe actually buried teams quickly, so it never had to come to that.
So he never went to game 7? Never shot 6-24 in it? Cool story

[BlackVVaves]

Secondtonun looking like a real idiot out here. Did you watch basketball pre-2003 bro :roll:

2001 Shaq and Kobe = most dominant duo in NBA history. Shit didn't even make sense how great they were. Two teammates essentially giving you 30 points every night, it's unheard of :biggums:

[moe94]

Secondtonun looking like a real idiot out here. Did you watch basketball pre-2003 bro :roll:

2001 Shaq and Kobe = most dominant duo in NBA history. Shit didn't even make sense how great they were. Two teammates essentially giving you 30 points every night, it's unheard of :biggums:

Iverson/Melo

[Heavincent]

So he never went to game 7? Never shot 6-24 in it? Cool story

That was non-peak Kobe playing on one knee. Funny thing is, he still took home FMVP and dominated the playoffs.

[ImKobe]

Iverson/Melo

:lol


The crazy thing about Kobe & Shaq in 01 was that both were crazy good on both ends of the floor & both of them made plays for eachother, the chemistry was unreal in the Playoffs that year. Every game, except for Game 1 of the Finals, looked effortless. The way Kobe tore up the Spurs was a thing of beauty. He flat out destroyed the twin towers. Shaq took a huge wet dump on Mutombo in the Finals while Kobe kept AI in check.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Iverson/Melo

:rolleyes:

not even comparable

[Doctor Rivers]

Lebron did it against the greatest defensive team of all time.

Lechievement: Unlocked. (10,000 LeGamer points)

Trying a bit too hard there brah

[Prometheus]

Anyone hating on Kobe ITT is a special kind of jackass. He deserves criticism for some things but not for that game or really anything from 2001. Dude was murder.

[Prometheus]

If he had never cut his afro I would deny all of his shortcomings and be a Kobe fan to this day.

[TheMarkMadsen]

If he had never cut his afro I would deny all of his shortcomings and be a Kobe fan to this day.

instead of drawing on a fake hair line, Kobe shaved it off like a boss, developed an under-bite and won 2 more rings :bowdown:

[BlackVVaves]

Iverson/Melo

It's unheard of. Couple times in how many decades of NBA history?

Shit crazy.

[imnew09]

Look at those discrediting Kobe :roll: :lol

[Legends66NBA7]

can you ****ing stans of both lebron and kobe plez stfu. goddamn just enjoy them being great and acheiving this feat instead of trying to compare who got 1 more assist, 2 more steals, or shot 1% better. i swear you motha****ers are straight retarded

This.

[Rubio2Gasol]

When I said LMA was a top 3 power forwad a couple weeks back, people wanted to kill me :lol:

[chazzy]

Where are the highlights from that Kobe game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpArN4LbTI0

and then 45/10 against Duncan/DRob Spurs the next game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVnDLP8xKE4

[J Shuttlesworth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpArN4LbTI0
Sick. Not to take anything away from Kobe... that's a ****ing epic performance no doubt... but the Kings were probably the worst defensive team out of all the ones on that list.

[Megabox!]

instead of drawing on a fake hair line, Kobe shaved it off like a boss, developed an under-bite and won 2 more rings :bowdown:
The dickriding on this forum is insane

[chazzy]

Sick. Not to take anything away from Kobe... that's a ****ing epic performance no doubt... but the Kings were probably the worst defensive team out of all the ones on that list.
They're actually the 2nd best defense on the list. Really? 2011 Hawks.. current Rockets? Not to mention it happening in one of the best defensive eras

[Rubio2Gasol]

Fpiii and his friggin Davis hypeshow when Davis won like 2 games his entire career.

Has the gaul to tell me Davis > Aldridge right now.

[fpliii]

Fpiii and his friggin Davis hypeshow when Davis won like 2 games his entire career.

Has the gaul to tell me Davis > Aldridge right now.
Talk about overreaction to one playoff game. :oldlol:

I do like LMA's game, and would put him ahead of Davis on the season. Davis has tons of potential, though. I think BG was the best 4 this year.

[Legends66NBA7]

Sick. Not to take anything away from Kobe... that's a ****ing epic performance no doubt... but the Kings were probably the worst defensive team out of all the ones on that list.

No, infact they were the 2nd best defensive squard according to Defensive Rating for their era.

00 Kings - 102.1 DRTG; League Average 104.1; Difference +2

01 Kings - 99.6 DRTG; League Average 103; Difference +3.4

11 Hawks - 107 DRTG; League Average 107.3; Difference +0.3

12 Celtics - 98.2 DRTG; League Average 104.6; Difference +6.4

14 Rockets - 106.3 DRTG; League Average 106.7; Difference +0.4


As for 2012, one has to keep in mind that there might have been a lockout effect for team offenses that season, not that it really matters THAT much for the Celtics defense because it would have been impressive regardless.

[Rubio2Gasol]

Talk about overreaction to one playoff game. :oldlol:

I do like LMA's game, and would put him ahead of Davis on the season. Davis has tons of potential, though. I think BG was the best 4 this year.

Really? What changed? Less than a month ago you said Davis is top ten right now (Which I think basketball fans in general should take offense to, considering his win/loss) and Aldridge isn't a top 3 power forwad. It's not one game, you under-appreciate polished offensive players :D

[PickernRoller]

Sick. Not to take anything away from Kobe... that's a ****ing epic performance no doubt... but the Kings were probably the worst defensive team out of all the ones on that list.

Shows the ignorance of this clown. If you never watched the early 00's why run your mouth like a lil hater b1tch? :roll: :roll:

[fpliii]

Really? What changed? Less than a month ago you said Davis is top ten right now (Which I think basketball fans in general should take offense to, considering his win/loss) and Aldridge isn't a top 3 power forwad. It's not one game, you under-appreciate polished offensive players :D
Checked out some different defense numbers, he gambles too much I'd say, and from watching it was hard to say that. I probably overrated him based on his tools/potential.

I think Aldridge is playing like the best PF after BG right now. Don't get me wrong, I like polished offensive players, but Aldridge takes too many long 2s. KG did the same thing (BTW he, along with Kareem, is the counterpoint to W/L record; though I think AD should get blame this year), but he was a dominant defender.

I like the 20 footer because that shot will ALWAYS be there in the playoffs, but if it's not falling constantly, you're ****ed. If Portland can steal this series (or LMA can continue playing well), I'll be a fan. I do think that bigs should be defense first, and offense should be a bonus (unless you're a Wilt, Kareem, or Shaq).

:cheers: But I have no problem admitting I might've jumped the gun a bit early. I don't think one game from LMA is enough, though. He did lead the league in 20-20s this year, so that was cool.

[Mr. Jabbar]

ppl just hate the 6/24 game 7 shooting but kobe grabed like 15 reounds to win that game, such an epic, clutch rebounder guard

[JebronLames]

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/statuses/458112319793659904

6th player since 1978 to put up 45+ points & 15+ rebounds :applause:
Lebron is the only one with 5+ assist. GOAT.

[BlackVVaves]

Sick. Not to take anything away from Kobe... that's a ****ing epic performance no doubt... but the Kings were probably the worst defensive team out of all the ones on that list.


No, infact they were the 2nd best defensive squard according to Defensive Rating for their era.

00 Kings - 102.1 DRTG; League Average 104.1; Difference +2

01 Kings - 99.6 DRTG; League Average 103; Difference +3.4

11 Hawks - 107 DRTG; League Average 107.3; Difference +0.3

12 Celtics - 98.2 DRTG; League Average 104.6; Difference +6.4

14 Rockets - 106.3 DRTG; League Average 106.7; Difference +0.4





Yikes :lol

[russwest0]

Lmao, Kobe did that? A TWO GUARD?

Goddamn :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[AnaheimLakers24]

Shows the ignorance of this clown. If you never watched the early 00's why run your mouth like a lil hater b1tch? :roll: :roll:
:oldlol:














:oldlol:

[Combat Wombat]

No, infact they were the 2nd best defensive squard according to Defensive Rating for their era.

00 Kings - 102.1 DRTG; League Average 104.1; Difference +2

01 Kings - 99.6 DRTG; League Average 103; Difference +3.4

11 Hawks - 107 DRTG; League Average 107.3; Difference +0.3

12 Celtics - 98.2 DRTG; League Average 104.6; Difference +6.4

14 Rockets - 106.3 DRTG; League Average 106.7; Difference +0.4


As for 2012, one has to keep in mind that there might have been a lockout effect for team offenses that season, not that it really matters THAT much for the Celtics defense because it would have been impressive regardless.

:roll:

What an ether.

Watch the bandwagon f@ggot disappear faster than his hero in the 4th quarter.

[Prometheus]

ppl just hate the 6/24 game 7 shooting but kobe grabed like 15 reounds to win that game, such an epic, clutch rebounder guard

The 6/24 game was garbage and shame on you for trying to say otherwise. By this logic LeBron's 2011 Mavs series was not actually bad because he had solid all-around stats.

[Rodmantheman]

Great games from all of them future hall of famers except for LMA :applause:

[Mr. Jabbar]

The 6/24 game was garbage and shame on you for trying to say otherwise. By this logic LeBron's 2011 Mavs series was not actually bad because he had solid all-around stats.

he cost his team the finals while kobes rebounds gave the team the championship, difference between empty stats and being a clutch god

[ImKobe]

The 6/24 game was garbage and shame on you for trying to say otherwise. By this logic LeBron's 2011 Mavs series was not actually bad because he had solid all-around stats.

Kobe had a good Finals series and shot about his average, except for Game 7. He averaged 29.5 6.8 4.2 with 2.3 stls 0.8 blks on 43/37/93 shooting in the first 6 games, he just had one game, where his shot just wasn't going. He only had 2 bad shooting nights in the series, and both of them were wins, where he did well in other areas of the game.

Kobe played well enough for his team to win the title, LeBron obviously didn't. Kobe was the leading scorer in the Finals(also led his team in assists and steals) while Lebron was 3rd in scoring on his own team, Kobe didn't have an 8-point game in the Finals, Kobe just had a bad shooting night in a Game 7 of the Finals after playing half the season on one leg. Lebron had no injuries and was 100% healthy. Kobe was an old man and on his last legs (as it was evidenced in the following season, as it got even worse). Kobe didn't look like he was afraid of the pressure & he certainly wasn't going to be stagnant and just pass the ball around because he wasn't getting the shots he would like, he did everything in his power to win the game.

Kobe showed up in the 4th quarter of Game 7, he made 3 shots, made most of his FTs and made the right pass at the right time to Ron Artest for the three(that won the game) and played solid perimeter defense to close out the game. Lebron got embarrassed by Jason Terry. Ray Allen had a Finals game, where he shot 0/13, Lebron's opposing match-ups outscored him like every game and made him their bitch.

[Prometheus]

he cost his team the finals while kobes rebounds gave the team the championship, difference between empty stats and being a clutch god

By this logic LeBron's missed shot in game 6 last year (which Bosh then rebounded and passed to Allen) saved Miami. Either they both got bailed out, or they both played great. Your double standards will not pass.

[Prometheus]

Kobe had a good Finals series and shot about his average, except for Game 7. He averaged 29.5 6.8 4.2 with 2.3 stls 0.8 blks on 43/37/93 shooting in the first 6 games, he just had one game, where his shot just wasn't going. He only had 2 bad shooting nights in the series, and both of them were wins, where he did well in other areas of the game.

Kobe played well enough for his team to win the title, LeBron obviously didn't. Kobe was the leading scorer in the Finals(also led his team in assists and steals) while Lebron was 3rd in scoring on his own team, Kobe didn't have an 8-point game in the Finals, Kobe just had a bad shooting night in a Game 7 of the Finals after playing half the season on one leg. Lebron had no injuries and was 100% healthy. Kobe was an old man and on his last legs (as it was evidenced in the following season, as it got even worse). Kobe didn't look like he was afraid of the pressure & he certainly wasn't going to be stagnant and just pass the ball around because he wasn't getting the shots he would like, he did everything in his power to win the game.

Kobe showed up in the 4th quarter of Game 7, he made 3 shots, made most of his FTs and made the right pass at the right time to Ron Artest for the three(that won the game) and played solid perimeter defense to close out the game. Lebron got embarrassed by Jason Terry. Ray Allen had a Finals game, where he shot 0/13, Lebron's opposing match-ups outscored him like every game and made him their bitch.

I never said Kobe had a bad series. I was simply pointing out that he played like shit in game 7. No big deal guy, unnecessary rant.

[ImKobe]

I never said Kobe had a bad series. I was simply pointing out that he played like shit in game 7. No big deal guy, unnecessary rant.

I guess having his 2nd best rebounding game in his Playoff career while also clinching the title with his defense & playmaking is ranked as "shit".

[jlip]

I was wondering why that Barkley game against the Warriors in the '94 playoffs wasn't included. I see he "only" put up 56pts 14rbs (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=barklch01&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_G=&pos_is_GF=&pos_is_F=&pos_is_FG=&pos_is_FC=&pos_is_C=&pos_is_CF=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts).

[Ronaldinho]

Shaq after kobe back to back 45/10+

"I told Kobe that he was my idol," O'Neal said. "I'm serious. He's playing phenomenal. I think he's the best player in the league, by far."

[ImKobe]

I was wondering why that Barkley game against the Warriors in the '94 playoffs wasn't included. I see he "only" put up 56pts 14rbs (http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=barklch01&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=Y&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_G=&pos_is_GF=&pos_is_F=&pos_is_FG=&pos_is_FC=&pos_is_C=&pos_is_CF=&c1stat=pts&c1comp=gt&c1val=50&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts).

Doesn't fit the criteria. Lots of players had much better games(including the players themselves, excluding Aldridge & LeBron, in that exclusive club).

[AlphaWolf24]

Surprised Kobe's on it. Damn.


:lol kids these days

[J Shuttlesworth]

No, infact they were the 2nd best defensive squard according to Defensive Rating for their era.

00 Kings - 102.1 DRTG; League Average 104.1; Difference +2

01 Kings - 99.6 DRTG; League Average 103; Difference +3.4

11 Hawks - 107 DRTG; League Average 107.3; Difference +0.3

12 Celtics - 98.2 DRTG; League Average 104.6; Difference +6.4

14 Rockets - 106.3 DRTG; League Average 106.7; Difference +0.4


As for 2012, one has to keep in mind that there might have been a lockout effect for team offenses that season, not that it really matters THAT much for the Celtics defense because it would have been impressive regardless.
Damn WTF? Adelman got that team the 2nd best DRTG in the league? I watched them more in 02, and their defense was shit.

[Inferno]

Thread goes from celebrating LMA's great night to a war between Kobe stans and haters :lol

[TheMarkMadsen]

Thread goes from celebrating LMA's great night to a war between Kobe stans and haters :lol


There were like 4 Kobe hate threads made right after Houston lost..if they continue to lose Kobe will continue to be talked about more than anybody..

Hopefully it ends so we can discuss the greatness of the newest Kobe Bryant guy Damian Lillard

[NumberSix]

Kobe was a beast in 2001. Anyone who says current Deuxrant is better than Bean EVER was just doesn't know.

[SilkkTheShocker]

Kobe fans came out of hiding :oldlol:

[Legends66NBA7]

Damn WTF? Adelman got that team the 2nd best DRTG in the league? I watched them more in 02, and their defense was shit.

Yeah, in the 02-03 season they ranked #2 overall in the league. From 99-00 to 02-03, they were a Top 10 defensive team.

In 00-01, they were ranked #7th in defense. In 01-02, they were ranked #6th in defense.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Yeah, in the 02-03 season they ranked #2 overall in the league. From 99-00 to 02-03, they were a Top 10 defensive team.

In 00-01, they were ranked #7th in defense. In 01-02, they were ranked #6th in defense.
That's crazy. I was only 14 back then so I wasn't really a stat watcher, but I remember the 02 kings getting a lot of shit for their defense from the media. Their relative DRTG those years were -3.4, -3.4, and -4.5.... how does that stat work? Does that mean it's 4.5 under the league average?

[Legends66NBA7]

That's crazy. I was only 14 back then so I wasn't really a stat watcher, but I remember the 02 kings getting a lot of shit for their defense from the media. Their relative DRTG those years were -3.4, -3.4, and -4.5.... how does that stat work? Does that mean it's 4.5 under the league average?

ORTG, let's say the average is 105. If the Kings average is say 109, it's a +4. DRTG, same thing (they will be same average always), say it's a 100, it's a +5. ORTG of 109 and a DRTG of 100 equals to an overall Net Rating of +9.

ORTG, higher the better. DRTG, lower the better.

And yes, being under the league average in this case for the Kings means they were much better than the average and other teams.

[J Shuttlesworth]

ORTG, let's say the average is 105. If the Kings average is say 109, it's a +4. DRTG, same thing (they will be same average always), say it's a 100, it's a +5. ORTG of 109 and a DRTG of 100 equals to an overall Net Rating of +9.

ORTG, higher the better. DRTG, lower the better.

And yes, being under the league average in this case for the Kings means they were much better than the average and other teams.
Thanks :cheers: Never really knew much about how those stats work. I'll give Kobe the edge on this one :applause:

[Legends66NBA7]

Thanks :cheers: Never really knew much about how those stats work. I'll give Kobe the edge on this one :applause:

Their great were for gauging teams, because it takes into account a lot of factors including pace, turnovers, 2pt shooting, 3pt shooting, ft%, etc...

The creator (Dean Oliver) of these stats also said to not use these ratings against players on different teams. I believe you have to use them (individually) to players on the same team, while also looking at minutes per game.

[G-Funk]

Lebron is the only one with 5+ assist. GOAT.

4 TO's

[G-Funk]

He was the 3rd player to do it at the time, the other 2 were centers Shaq & Hakeem

[LongLiveTheKing]

LeBron's was easily the best performance with the most at stake.

[Solefade]

lebron's was the best and probably least minutes too

[20Four]

LeBron's was easily the best performance with the most at stake.

lebron's was the best and probably least minutes too

OMG...jus' leave son! You pathetic B|tch :banghead:

[Solefade]

OMG...jus' leave son! You pathetic B|tch :banghead:


it was the best just accept it bro lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kobe

[Doranku]

Kobe :applause: :applause: :applause:

[HoopsFanNumero1]

19 FTAs for Kobe? And this wasn't even in 2002 :lol

[Prometheus]

it was the best just accept it bro lebron >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kobe

More like LeBron > Kobe. Exaggeration on both sides is what makes this debate annoying bro. LeBron is a better player than Kobe was, but it's close. Kobe was great.

[Mr Exlax]

I'm still hoping Dwight can get back to his old dominating self. Good shit by LMA. TJones got exposed. Just too short and inexperienced.

[Rocketswin2013]

I'm still hoping Dwight can get back to his old dominating self. Good shit by LMA. TJones got exposed. Just too short and inexperienced.
Dwight played great yesterday. The refs raped him though.


27/15/4/1/1 30 PER

[Combat Wombat]

Damn WTF? Adelman got that team the 2nd best DRTG in the league? I watched them more in 02, and their defense was shit.

Nice try, bandwagon fan.

[branslowski]

Kobe>>>LeBron