Of all the teams who lost at home, who's likely to still win?

[All Net]

Guessing

Indiana
Clippers
OKC

Are still expected to advance. Do you see Rockets still winning the series?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Really? No respect for the Thunder, even from the mod? :biggums:

[hahaitme]

Really? No respect for the Thunder, even from the mod? :biggums:

"Game One" though.

Title is confusing but if you re-read it, doesn't apply to OKC.

[All Net]

Really? No respect for the Thunder, even from the mod? :biggums:
OKC too.

[Black and White]

I don't see the Rockets winning, I picked the Blazers in 6

[J Shuttlesworth]

"Game One" though.

Title is confusing but if you re-read it, doesn't apply to OKC.
Word. Thought it was "who lost one game at home"

[All Net]

"Game One" though.

Title is confusing but if you re-read it, doesn't apply to OKC.
Agreed

Changed the topic title

[hahaitme]

OKC lost one game at home but not game one. But out of all the teams I'd easily pick Thunder.
Pacers are falling apart and I don't know, just can't see Clippers getting past Thunder OR the Spurs let alone both in 7 game series.

[Akrazotile]

I actually think the Hawks are gonna win their series.

[ImKobe]

OKC probably. Memphis is a great team, but I don't think they can sustain the scoring for the entire series.

[BoutPractice]

All of them except maybe Houston.

[DMAVS41]

Guessing

Indiana
Clippers
OKC

Are still expected to advance. Do you see Rockets still winning the series?

Clippers will still win pretty easily in my opinion.

Kind of torn on the Thunder. I'm just not sure...the Grizzlies might just be one of the 5 or so best teams in the league. They were on a 56 win pace with Marc Gasol healthy, and they have a playoff oriented style combined with years of experience together. The Thunder are still favorites here, but those sneaky Grizzlies might only be like 5% worse as a team...and that is close enough for them to actually pull out the series.

Pacers and Rockets are in legit trouble...

[senelcoolidge]

Clippers will still win pretty easily in my opinion.

Kind of torn on the Thunder. I'm just not sure...the Grizzlies might just be one of the 5 or so best teams in the league. They were on a 56 win pace with Marc Gasol healthy, and they have a playoff oriented style combined with years of experience together. The Thunder are still favorites here, but those sneaky Grizzlies might only be like 5% worse as a team...and that is close enough for them to actually pull out the series.

Pacers and Rockets are in legit trouble...

I agree the Pacers and Rockets are in trouble. I think the Thunder will beat the Grizzlies but they will be softened up for the 2nd round which will be with the Clippers.

[mugiwara]

Bulls will win.

[coin24]

Something is definitely up with the Pacers.. If they come out half assed tomorrow then its pretty obvious.

I think Houston is in deep shit, OKC and Clippers should take care of business. Will be both tough series though:cheers:

[coin24]

Bulls will win.

There lack of offense is really hurting them...

Imagine this Bulls team with Rose and Melo:rockon:

[buddha]

Rockets can still easily win, people forget just how bad the blazers can be when their 3's aren't falling. I expect them to lose by 30 atleast once this series.

[sportjames23]

Guessing

Indiana
Clippers
OKC

Are still expected to advance. Do you see Rockets still winning the series?


Toss up between Clips and Thunders. Indy's in trouble, IMO. Depending on if and how they win Game Two, we'll see if they have it in them to get to the next round. They have to be like the Clippers vs the Warriors, Game Two style to have any chance of winning this series.

[JordanL]

Rockets can still easily win, people forget just how bad the blazers can be when their 3's aren't falling. I expect them to lose by 30 atleast once this series.

Portland didn't shoot well from 3 in game 1, and shot almost 10% below average from the free throw line.

How exactly is Portland going to lose by 30? Are the Rockets going to play defense? Portland is one of the best offenses in the playoffs.

[RoseCity07]

Okc.

[RoseCity07]

Rockets can still easily win, people forget just how bad the blazers can be when their 3's aren't falling. I expect them to lose by 30 atleast once this series.

Except Aldridge scored a sh*t ton in the post during the 4th quarter. And no one knew Portland could play defense like they did on Harden. Shut him down. Held Houston to 0 free throws in the first half.

[All Net]

Clippers will still win pretty easily in my opinion.

Kind of torn on the Thunder. I'm just not sure...the Grizzlies might just be one of the 5 or so best teams in the league. They were on a 56 win pace with Marc Gasol healthy, and they have a playoff oriented style combined with years of experience together. The Thunder are still favorites here, but those sneaky Grizzlies might only be like 5% worse as a team...and that is close enough for them to actually pull out the series.

Pacers and Rockets are in legit trouble...

What makes you think Rockets are in big trouble?

[ABfor3]

I see the Rockets playing much better especially Harden, he definitely had a bad game and the Blazers played great defense on him. That's not saying I expect them to win it all but i do believe we will steal a game from them at home.
OKC will bounce back, and the Clippers are gonna win the series. Every body else isn't a lock

[ralph_i_el]

Bulls will win.
nope
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[DaSeba5]

Thunder will win, but it may not be as easy as people have thought. Maybe a 6-7 game series.

Clippers will win in a long series.

Everyone else I think will lose the series.

[SCdac]

Pacers, Clippers, Rockets, and Thunder all win their series... If the Rockets lose it's cause they can't play D worth of crap and their style of offense is too reliant on 3's and drawing cheap fouls, but get the feeling Harden will get some positive ref treatment coming up

[Pointguard]

Indiana lost Granger and seem leaderless since then. Despite being a much better team, that still should win the series, they can spiral out of control moreso than any other team.

If Harden takes over the team, Houston can turn it around.

Toronto is playing a very experienced team so their chances seem dim.

Clips and OKC will win.

Chicago's defense is a constant and should pull through.

[All Net]

Pacers, Clippers, Rockets, and Thunder all win their series... If the Rockets lose it's cause they can't play D worth of crap and their style of offense is too reliant on 3's and drawing cheap fouls, but get the feeling Harden will get some positive ref treatment coming up
Well if they can't find an answer for Aldridge they will lose. Harden needs to play Alot better. They don't seem to be able to stop lillard either.

[navy]

The Clippers will win. The Warriors got lucky due to foul trouble.

[navy]

Well if they can't find an answer for Aldridge they will lose. Harden needs to play Alot better. They don't seem to be able to stop lillard either.

He was unusually hot. He will cool down on his own.

[Thorpesaurous]

I was contemplating making a thread about this, but I don't usually sense most people around here are that into gambling.

Here are the series odds:

OKC -500 / +400

PACERS -600 / +450

CLIPPERS -400 / +320

SPURS -900 / +650

BULLS -190 / +165

ROCKETS -210 / +175

HEAT Off the board.

NETS I missed the cutoff.


So for those who don't see this stuff often, this is based on a 100 dollar unit. So for every 100 you bet on the favorite, the listed team, if they lose, you lose the minus number, and if they win, you get the 100 dollars.

For every 100 you bet on the underdog (the other team in the series obviously), if they win you win the + number, and if they lose you lose the 100 dollars.

The Heat being off the board just means that they won't take any bets on that series. They'd have to make the number so big it probably wouldn't be worth the risk to the house. It's important to remember gambling lines aren't trying to predict who'll win, they're trying to put out a number that gets roughly even money on both sides of the ledger.

I LOVE betting in series. I like sniffing out underdogs, and hoping they can just take a series to seven, where I can often hedge my bet and put myself in a can't lose situation. I like betting dogs then picking a spot to bet against them to level my wager before the series wears on.

The two I liked going in were the Nets and Wizards. However by the time I heard back from my guy the Nets had already started. I believe they actually wound up being favorites in that series by just a tad, which is fine, because I probably would've backed off if that was the case.

I wound up taking a taste on Atlanta, mostly just to bet against the Pacers. It's pretty exciting at the moment, but it wasn't much money, and I still don't believe the Hawks will win. I also took a taste on Golden State because I felt that number was big for a team that could just heat check it's way to a couple wins.

Both of those mean nothing though because I went good and heavy on the Wiz. Watching the Bulls late in the season, even as they were playing good, it just looks painfull for them to score. Unless Noah gets and assist to a layup, it just feels like they don't have an solution. And the one guy they have who can get rolling to create shots is DJ Augustine. That's an issue in and of itselft, especially since you'd think the increased focus of playoff scouting will take it's toll more on a guy who's sort of come out of nowhere than an established factor. But more than that, I trust that Wall will hound the hell out of him, and then scoring just gets even more difficult.

My only real concern was the notion that Thibs may just figure a way out to win this series against a team with so little experience. It's a huge coaching mismatch. But that was my big play for the first round.

[SCdac]

Well if they can't find an answer for Aldridge they will lose. Harden needs to play Alot better. They don't seem to be able to stop lillard either.

I don't think they have an answer for either Aldridge or Lillard, but I think their offense will improve and win them at least a couple games. And repeating what I said earlier, just the get the feeling/hunch that Harden is going to get some love from the refs in the rest of the series. iirc Houston got no FT's in the first half of that game, hard to see that happening again. On the other hand, Harden is a chucker and his game doesn't scream efficiency. But a kick in this ass might have been what HOU needed

[SCdac]

Nice post Thorpesaurous :cheers:

[ArbitraryWater]

Rockets and Clippers

[Thorpesaurous]

Nice post Thorpesaurous :cheers:


Thanks.

Only in retrospect does the Portland play seem really good. I had actually bought in a little on Houston as a dark horse conference finalist type team. And that probably blinded me a bit. I feel like Houston can be one of those teams not unlike GS, where even though they're not the better team, over a 4 or 5 game stretch, they can get so hot as to win almost any series.
In fact, I like Houston better because they've got some interior balance. The thinking is Harden has a 35+ game that they win, Dwight get one of those 25 / 25 games that they win, and then there's the random Chandler Parsons hit's 7 threes game.

Unfortunately, I didn't really see Portland as that type of team, but the truth is they may be more that type of heat check team than Houston between Lillard and LA, because LA can put up more impactfull numbers than Dwight (Dwight had his big game and it didn't result in a win). And then you replace the random Parsons game with some piping hot night from Wes Matthews or Batum.

[ArbitraryWater]

I was contemplating making a thread about this, but I don't usually sense most people around here are that into gambling.

Here are the series odds:

OKC -500 / +400

PACERS -600 / +450

CLIPPERS -400 / +320

SPURS -900 / +650

BULLS -190 / +165

ROCKETS -210 / +175

HEAT Off the board.

NETS I missed the cutoff.


So for those who don't see this stuff often, this is based on a 100 dollar unit. So for every 100 you bet on the favorite, the listed team, if they lose, you lose the minus number, and if they win, you get the 100 dollars.

For every 100 you bet on the underdog (the other team in the series obviously), if they win you win the + number, and if they lose you lose the 100 dollars.

The Heat being off the board just means that they won't take any bets on that series. They'd have to make the number so big it probably wouldn't be worth the risk to the house. It's important to remember gambling lines aren't trying to predict who'll win, they're trying to put out a number that gets roughly even money on both sides of the ledger.

I LOVE betting in series. I like sniffing out underdogs, and hoping they can just take a series to seven, where I can often hedge my bet and put myself in a can't lose situation. I like betting dogs then picking a spot to bet against them to level my wager before the series wears on.

The two I liked going in were the Nets and Wizards. However by the time I heard back from my guy the Nets had already started. I believe they actually wound up being favorites in that series by just a tad, which is fine, because I probably would've backed off if that was the case.

I wound up taking a taste on Atlanta, mostly just to bet against the Pacers. It's pretty exciting at the moment, but it wasn't much money, and I still don't believe the Hawks will win. I also took a taste on Golden State because I felt that number was big for a team that could just heat check it's way to a couple wins.

Both of those mean nothing though because I went good and heavy on the Wiz. Watching the Bulls late in the season, even as they were playing good, it just looks painfull for them to score. Unless Noah gets and assist to a layup, it just feels like they don't have an solution. And the one guy they have who can get rolling to create shots is DJ Augustine. That's an issue in and of itselft, especially since you'd think the increased focus of playoff scouting will take it's toll more on a guy who's sort of come out of nowhere than an established factor. But more than that, I trust that Wall will hound the hell out of him, and then scoring just gets even more difficult.

My only real concern was the notion that Thibs may just figure a way out to win this series against a team with so little experience. It's a huge coaching mismatch. But that was my big play for the first round.


Sweet Post... although I usually bet on football (soccer) and not basketball.

[All Net]

Thanks.

Only in retrospect does the Portland play seem really good. I had actually bought in a little on Houston as a dark horse conference finalist type team. And that probably blinded me a bit. I feel like Houston can be one of those teams not unlike GS, where even though they're not the better team, over a 4 or 5 game stretch, they can get so hot as to win almost any series.
In fact, I like Houston better because they've got some interior balance. The thinking is Harden has a 35+ game that they win, Dwight get one of those 25 / 25 games that they win, and then there's the random Chandler Parsons hit's 7 threes game.

Unfortunately, I didn't really see Portland as that type of team, but the truth is they may be more that type of heat check team than Houston between Lillard and LA, because LA can put up more impactfull numbers than Dwight (Dwight had his big game and it didn't result in a win). And then you replace the random Parsons game with some piping hot night from Wes Matthews or Batum.

I think they are both similar

Both teams have two stars and nice 3rd options in Parsons and Matthews. I think both could give spurs issues in round two. And both are up and coming teams too.

[Pointguard]

Portland should just go all out on Harden this next game. He's the only one that can rally the troops.

[Thorpesaurous]

Portland should just go all out on Harden this next game. He's the only one that can rally the troops.


I agree. I'd spend the first quarter throwing double teams at him before the screens even come for him to run PnR. Get them out of sync and then throw a bunch of different looks of PnR defense at them once they adjust.

I'd also seriously consider running a few sets at him offensively and put Wes or Batum on the block and make him work on that end. Even if it means twisting the offense periodically.

[DMAVS41]

What makes you think Rockets are in big trouble?

Well, they lost game 1 at home against a team that is only slightly worse overall in my opinion.

These series are really fragile. You sometimes can't afford to drop a game like that in a close series where the margin for error is so small.

When I say "big trouble" I mean that they now can't afford to lose another game they shouldn't....could be the difference in winning the series or not.

[WallIn]

Chicago's defense is a constant

Good. Let the things stay constant as they are now, Wiz winning 3 of the last 4 against Bulls this season

[All Net]

Well, they lost game 1 at home against a team that is only slightly worse overall in my opinion.

These series are really fragile. You sometimes can't afford to drop a game like that in a close series where the margin for error is so small.

When I say "big trouble" I mean that they now can't afford to lose another game they shouldn't....could be the difference in winning the series or not.
I personally think Houston and Portland are very even to be honest.

[DMAVS41]

I personally think Houston and Portland are very even to be honest.

Yea, then dropping game 1 at home hurts...you now don't have homecourt advantage against an even team and are down...

[Solefade]

houston is getting outcoached

[Phenith]

Nobody has faith in the Raptors? Some of these young guys were just shaking off their first time playoff jitters in game one.