Lebron vs prime Kobe, one-on-one

[sportjames23]

Who you got?

[Milbuck]

Kobe.

[RRR3]

LeBron due to size.

[Cold soul]

Kobe

[Angel Face]

Prime Kobe

[Rodmantheman]

lol Lebron

[Warfan]

http://img.pandawhale.com/78387-Dis-gon-b-gud-gif--This-is-gon-sWM8.gif

[TheMarkMadsen]

not much of a Kobe fan but i gotta go with Bean

[Angel Face]

lol Lebron

One on one game, meaning he has no one to pass the ball to.

[plowking]

Lebron.

They used to have these 1 on 1 tournaments back in the day in the ABA and NBA I believe. It was always the 6'8-6'10 guys that won.

[215Philly]

Bully ball>>>

[MastaKilla]

Kobe

[bballnoob1192]

umm kobe is the best 1-on-1 player of all time. his offensive skillset is bar none. what makes lebron great is his allround game. that shit won't matter here.

[Cold soul]

umm kobe is the best 1-on-1 player of all time. his offensive skillset is bar none. what makes lebron great is his allround game. that shit won't matter here.


Well said. :applause:

[Good Ol JR]

By gawd I think it's Kobe!!

[rlsmooth775]

Wow I never saw this question before

[PickernRoller]

This question is a travesty. OP has no respect for the game.

Universal answer is Kobe: FACT!

[Donkey4trading]

meh Kobe but Lebron still the better passer/teammate

[Im Still Ballin]

There'd be no refs to give Kobe calls so Lebron could be as physical as he needs to be.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I'd take Kobe in 1 v 1, since he's a great ISO player. I'd take LeBron in any team situation though

[sportjames23]

Wow I never saw this question before


Now you have, my niqqa. Enjoy yourself! :pimp:

[PickernRoller]

There'd be no refs to give Kobe calls so Lebron could be as physical as he needs to be.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: meanwhile Kobe just needs to give Lebron some space for his clanks. Prob pass it out of bounds thinking of a teammate.

[bballnoob1192]

Now you have, my niqqa. Enjoy yourself! :pimp:
-Brought to you by sportjames23

[Im Still Ballin]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: meanwhile Kobe just needs to give Lebron some space for his clanks. Prob pass it out of bounds thinking of a teammate.

point being lebron can manhandle kobe and get easy buckets down low and up close

[PickernRoller]

point being lebron can manhandle kobe and get easy buckets down low and up close

Lebron will get beat on each possession if he gets physical wtf you blabbing about......

Lebron only knows three things: PnR drive to the rim, a step back jumpshot or a three with enough space.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Lettuce reality beef

Good Bran is

Kobe he aint

[sportjames23]

This question is a travesty. OP has no respect for the game.

Universal answer is Kobe: FACT!


Niqqa, be glad I matched up Kobe and Lebron. If I had matched up either with MJ, it'd be a massacre in MJ's favor. At least Kobe has a fighting chance with this matchup.

[Trollsmasher]

LeBron easily

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Lebron will get beat on each possession if he gets physical wtf you blabbing about......

Lebron only knows three things: PnR drive to the rim, a step back jumpshot or a three with enough space.
Lebron knocked Hibbert on his ass and sent him to the back when he drove at him, he could break Kobe in 2.
Your boy is too weak to compete with Lebron.

[The-Legend-24]

Both > MJ.

[Jameerthefear]

Lebron easily. Kobe probably wouldn't score. Lebron regularly shits on him in the regular season :oldlol:

[sportjames23]

Both > MJ.


reported

[PickernRoller]

Lebron knocked Hibbert on his ass and sent him to the back when he drove at him, he could break Kobe in 2.
Your boy is too weak to compete with Lebron.

Kobe slammed Dwight's head with his dick on a dunk? :roll: :roll:

I can only imagine what he would do to Bron. Prob take a dump on his head while in mid air.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Kobe slammed Dwight's head with his dick on a dunk? :roll: :roll:

I can only imagine what he would do to Bron. Prob take a dump on his head while in mid air.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI8-PbK1wmY
Na dude, Lebron would probably break Kobe's wrist if he tried dunk it.
Face it Lebron is far too strong for Kobe, he'd back him up under the ring and have an easy layin.

[Cold soul]

34 year old Kobe blocked Lebron not once but twice during all-star game. Kobe owned Lebron in that 1 on 1 battle. http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

[PickernRoller]

34 year old Kobe blocked Lebron not once but twice during all-star game. Kobe owned Lebron in that 1 on 1 battle. http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

Asking for what prime Kobe would do to this fraud with better foot speed, more stamina and sharper reflexes.....not withstanding that is a lean Kobe on that gif...:oldlol: :oldlol:

It's funny these clowns brag about Lebron's post game when it was non-existent 2 seasons ago. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

We're talking about the same fraud who gets locked up by the likes of Diaw and old @ss Marion. The same fraud that has trouble scoring or doing anything other than passing when a player gives him space for a mid-range jumpshot.

[sportjames23]

34 year old Kobe blocked Lebron not once but twice during all-star game. Kobe owned Lebron in that 1 on 1 battle. http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif


Thus, the influence for this thread. Somebody mentioned this in another thread and inspired me to make this one. :oldlol:

[TheMilkyBarKid]

34 year old Kobe blocked Lebron not once but twice during all-star game. Kobe owned Lebron in that 1 on 1 battle. http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif
since you're including games with no real significance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmkCpra1q4E
And I wasn't bragging about Lebron's post game, fact is he would back Kobe down though. He too strong!!

[AintNoSunshine]

:wtf: One would get a layup 6 times out of 10, the other would shoot contested jump shot 8 times out of 10

[eliteballer]

I think 2003 Kobe would work any version of LeBron. He literally does everything better but passing, and that version of Kobe also has some size while having a better first step.

[Solefade]

umm kobe is the best 1-on-1 player of all time. his offensive skillset is bar none. what makes lebron great is his allround game. that shit won't matter here.


if that niqqa so good then why has he never shot close to 50% or over his entire career :oldlol:

[J Shuttlesworth]

I think 2003 Kobe would work any version of LeBron. He literally does everything better but passing, and that version of Kobe also has some size while having a better first step.
Kobe has never been as good at LeBron at driving/finishing at the rim.

[Milbuck]

Peak Kobe was the prototypical 1 on 1 perimeter player, almost zero weaknesses. Only Jordan would be better.

[eliteballer]

if that niqqa so good then why has he never shot close to 50% or over his entire career :oldlol:

He doesn't purposefully aim for it while having the luxury of a super team for spacing in a weak conference like LeBron does.

[Trollsmasher]

:wtf: One would get a layup 8 times out of 10, the other would shoot contested jump shot 8 times out of 10
Fixed

The other 2 shots would be dunks

And if LeBron gets bored, he can just jack threes over Kobe's short arms since he is a better 3 point shooter than Kobe has ever been.

[Warfan]

34 year old Kobe blocked Lebron not once but twice during all-star game. Kobe owned Lebron in that 1 on 1 battle. http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

Yes because LeBron is gonna get screened and pull up for a jumper when there is an open lane to the basket in a 1 on 1. Why bring up a fukking all star game? :facepalm

[Solefade]

He doesn't purposefully aim for it while having the luxury of a super team for spacing in a weak conference like LeBron does.


what a shit excuse :oldlol:

[Solefade]

kobe has the best iso skillset but wtf does that matter if some dude can back you down and get lay ups all day

[eliteballer]

And if LeBron gets bored, he can just jack threes over Kobe's short arms since he is a better 3 point shooter than Kobe has ever been.

:roll:

[eliteballer]

When has LeBron ever backed down Kobe? Dudes post game sucks:lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

Peak Kobe was the prototypical 1 on 1 perimeter player, almost zero weaknesses. Only Jordan would be better.
I agree. Kobe is pretty much ideal for 1v1, but I think it's closer than people think. It'd probably be like 11-9 Kobe

[Solefade]

When has LeBron ever backed down Kobe? Dudes post game sucks:lol


when has kobe guarded lebron since joining the heat? :lol

[PickernRoller]

Yes because LeBron is gonna get screened and pull up for a jumper when there is an open lane to the basket in a 1 on 1. Why bring up a fukking all star game? :facepalm

Open lane? You mean his left so he can brick any attempt from that side...

[ImKobe]

Kobe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XxsN8jITds
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQ3C3jvTXIM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo

[VIntageNOvel]

bran isnt even a good man defender:lol
and he couldnt even back the shit out of boris diaw :lol

[Cold soul]

Yes because LeBron is gonna get screened and pull up for a jumper when there is an open lane to the basket in a 1 on 1. Why bring up a fukking all star game? :facepalm

And then Kobe blocked Lebron once again driving into the lane 1 on 1 with no defensive help.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/fb7cda7af67162ff51b05829f44301f8/tumblr_n14euzsAHI1qcmnsoo2_400.gif

[ImKobe]

when has kobe guarded lebron since joining the heat? :lol

http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

[Solefade]

:facepalm

you pathetic kobe stans literally only have an all star game to jerk off to


lebron 13-6 vs kobe all time tho :roll:

[pauk]

I think Lebron will be able to defend Kobe better than Kobe can defend Lebron. Lebron is just bigger, stronger, faster and Kobe wont have 4 guys behind him to trap Lebron / make him think before driving in & hence settle for a jumpshot or something.... he will definitely be getting more higher percentage shots.

[PickernRoller]

And then Kobe blocked Lebron once again driving into the lane 1 on 1 with no defensive help.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/fb7cda7af67162ff51b05829f44301f8/tumblr_n14euzsAHI1qcmnsoo2_400.gif

Lebron is slower driving on his left and has an awkward release when contested from that side leading to bricks.

Thankfully for him there is such thing as PnR in the game which allows him to maneuver more easily and thankfully for him he can pass the ball.

No such thing on a 1-on-1.

Lebron fangirls will side with their boy. Asking otherwise is like asking a coke addict to give up crack.

[pauk]

And then Kobe blocked Lebron once again driving into the lane 1 on 1 with no defensive help.

http://37.media.tumblr.com/fb7cda7af67162ff51b05829f44301f8/tumblr_n14euzsAHI1qcmnsoo2_400.gif

Well... if you can get away with locking up a players arm in your 1on1 rules, then sure....

[Cold soul]

:facepalm

you pathetic kobe stans literally only have an all star game to jerk off to


lebron 13-6 vs kobe all time tho :roll:

Yet another Lebron stan butthurt. Go figure your boy took the L. It's time to get over it and move on. You sound mad bring up irreverent 13-6 record against each other while has nothing to do with 1 on 1 game.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Lebron is slower driving on his left and has an awkward release when contested from that side leading to bricks.

Thankfully for him there is such thing as PnR in the game which allows him to maneuver more easily and thankfully for him he can pass the ball.

No such thing on a 1-on-1.

Lebron fangirls will side with their boy. Asking otherwise is like asking a coke addict to give up crack.
wouldn't they have a harder time giving up coke??
:biggums:

[PickernRoller]

Yet another Lebron stan butthurt. Go figure your boy took the L. It's time to get over it and move on. You sound mad bring up irreverent 13-6 record against each other while has nothing to do with 1 on 1 game.

Have Lebron stans ever been more irrelevant in a discussions such as this one? :oldlol:

There is only one correct answer. The world couldn't give a f'ck if they disagree...:roll:

[Cold soul]

Have Lebron stans ever been more irrelevant in a discussions such as this one? :oldlol:

There is only one correct answer. The world couldn't give a f'ck if they disagree...:roll:

So true. :oldlol:

[Deuce Bigalow]

Well... if you can get away with locking up a players arm in your 1on1 rules, then sure....
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1446915/kobereturns_medium.gif

[ImKobe]

I think Lebron will be able to defend Kobe better than Kobe can defend Lebron. Lebron is just bigger, stronger, faster and Kobe wont have 4 guys behind him to trap Lebron / make him think before driving in & hence settle for a jumpshot or something.... he will definitely be getting more higher percentage shots.

Kobe's one of the greatest man defenders of all-time while Lebron is average at it. Kobe's better at shooting contested jump shots and his post game is light years ahead of Bron's. Kobe also knows how to defend in the post & his defensive instincts are much better.

Kobe is unguardable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jy5csF3Mc20

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/2021060/kobe-dunks-on-lebron-o.gif

[Solefade]

Yet another Lebron stan butthurt. Go figure your boy took the L. It's time to get over it and move on. You sound mad bring up irreverent 13-6 record against each other while has nothing to do with 1 on 1 game.


i'm butthurt cus you posted a gif of kobe blocking lebron during an ASG? :oldlol: :oldlol: nice try tho

[clutchinho]

Last time Lebron and Kobe played one on one, it ended with a 5000 word essay with ****ing animals from the serenghetti

Lebron dont want none of that

[AnaheimLakers24]

kobe bryant. just a better player

[Black and White]

People are forgetting that Kobe is a 1 on 1 player, that's what he is known for and he is elite in that regard, he has too many moves for LeBron to even keep up with, he would keep Bron guessing, LeBron is an elite player because of his court vision/team ball, you can't expect someone like that to go up against an ISO wizard and win.

[Mr. Jabbar]

as much as i like lebron kobe is the safe pick here

[JohnFreeman]

Kobe is a 1 on 1 player :confusedshrug:
LeBron would be a hard cover though

[Koontzy]

Kobe in his prime would own lebron in one on one.

[Im Still Ballin]

LeKing would chicken wrap this shit up with cheese.

MambaBE gonna be taking low % shots all day, sure he might hit a few but LeJacked (260 pounds of pure MUSCLE) will bully him all day and get high % shots.

Therefore, Kobe takes high amount of low % shots (which he makes at an above average rate) and Lebron takes a high amount of high % shots (which he makes at an extremely high rate)

ultimately Lebron will score more times than Kobe, therefore Lebron wins.

[plowking]

Some of you have no concept of how one on one works. If you honestly think Kobe would beat Bron one on one, you don't really have an understanding of the game.

People acting as if some supreme skillset is what wins one on ones. Its not. Stackhouse burned Jordan in one on one coming out of college from what I can remember. Same with some random scrub on the Bulls squad who lost to MJ by 1.

Guys like Griffin, Ibaka, James, Melo, Anthony Davis would bust most of these so called iso players in one on ones.

[Dragonyeuw]

They'd take turns beating each other in a series. How well Kobe defends Lebron depends on how his jumper is that day. Lebron's jumper has a tendency to go awry if you can limit his dribble penetration and 'force' him to shoot, which I believe Kobe is capable of doing here with his instincts and lateral quickness. Also I agree with the comment about 2003 Kobe, he had a bit more size and while Lebron can still back him down, Kobe still has enough athleticism and length to at least challenge the shot, and its not like Lebron is Hakeem down low with a bunch of moves and countermoves.

On the other end, I don't think Lebron can consistently stay with Kobe who has an ideal one on one game, and obviously 'Let Kobe shoot' isnt an effective defensive scheme like it may be for Lebron. Lebron has to prove that in a particular game that he can beat you solely from outside; we know that Kobe can and will.

This may come down to rules, is it winners or losers out? Because this is the kind of game that could come down to who misses first. One on one isnt always determined by who has the better iso skills, size does have a determining factor especially if its a significant advantage.

[fiddy]

Some of you have no concept of how one on one works. If you honestly think Kobe would beat Bron one on one, you don't really have an understanding of the game.

People acting as if some supreme skillset is what wins one on ones. Its not. Stackhouse burned Jordan in one on one coming out of college from what I can remember. Same with some random scrub on the Bulls squad who lost to MJ by 1.

Guys like Griffin, Ibaka, James, Melo, Anthony Davis would bust most of these so called iso players in one on ones.
I want to see Ibaka and AD beating KB24 one-on-one :oldlol:

[Mr. Jabbar]

I made a list of posters supporting lebron in this thread:

-RRR3
-Rodmantheman
-plowking
-Im Still Ballin
-Trollsmasher
-TheMilkyBarKid
-Jameerthefear
-AintNoSunshine

i rest my case

http://thestudenttimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/kobe-bryant-dunks-on-dwight-howard.jpg

[plowking]

Has anyone played one on one against someone significantly smaller than them? Anyone remembers what happens?

Eventually the smaller person asks for rules where you can't back down all the way, or you have to shoot outside the paint, etc. Or if their a little more competitive, try to trash talk you into proving you can shoot. You don't, you keep taking it inside.

Same thing goes here. Bron is consistently going to get the easier shots.

[russwest0]

I seriously have to question if people picking LeBron ever even watched Kobe in his prime.

[VIntageNOvel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI

[Im Still Ballin]

I seriously have to question if people picking LeBron ever even watched Kobe in his prime.

:facepalm

niqqa u in all sorts of wrongs.

[Im Still Ballin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBcZbKvVknI

homies. feast your eyes on the king.

[Mr. Jabbar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI

:applause:

kobe is just better suited for 1 on 1 than bran. if talent alone doesn't convince you, the 40 pt iq differential and clutch genes should

[russwest0]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI

Goddamn. Kobe in his prime may not have have totally deserved all defensive team but he definitely deserved it far more than LeBron does

[Koontzy]

Some of you have no concept of how one on one works. If you honestly think Kobe would beat Bron one on one, you don't really have an understanding of the game.

People acting as if some supreme skillset is what wins one on ones. Its not. Stackhouse burned Jordan in one on one coming out of college from what I can remember. Same with some random scrub on the Bulls squad who lost to MJ by 1.

Guys like Griffin, Ibaka, James, Melo, Anthony Davis would bust most of these so called iso players in one on ones.

No it sounds like you don't have an understanding of the game.

[Im Still Ballin]

Goddamn. Kobe in his prime may not have have totally deserved all defensive team but he definitely deserved it far more than LeBron does

doubtful. check Lekings DWS. dude was poppin that 6.5 in 08-09, shit nasty !

shits a wrap.

[sportjames23]

I made a list of posters supporting lebron in this thread:

-sportjames23
-RRR3
-Rodmantheman
-plowking
-Im Still Ballin
-Trollsmasher
-TheMilkyBarKid
-Jameerthefear
-AintNoSunshine

i rest my case

http://thestudenttimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/kobe-bryant-dunks-on-dwight-howard.jpg


LOL, when did I say Lebron would win this?

[TheMilkyBarKid]

:applause:

kobe is just better suited for 1 on 1 than bran. if talent alone doesn't convince you, the 40 pt iq differential and clutch genes should
:facepalm lebron plays much smarter basketball than kobe and he has far superior clutch stats... more unjustified bullshit jabbar.
How is kobe gonna stop lebron from rushing to the rim with noone behind him to pack the paint.
Lift your game boy.

[Milbuck]

Has anyone played one on one against someone significantly smaller than them? Anyone remembers what happens?

Eventually the smaller person asks for rules where you can't back down all the way, or you have to shoot outside the paint, etc. Or if their a little more competitive, try to trash talk you into proving you can shoot. You don't, you keep taking it inside.

Same thing goes here. Bron is consistently going to get the easier shots.
Did Gary Payton being 2 inches shorter and anywhere from 30-35 pounds lighter than Jordan stop him from being arguably the most effective defender against Jordan?

Since when did Lebron turn into this 9' 400 pound monster with the post skills of Hakeem?

[Mr. Jabbar]

:facepalm lebron plays much smarter basketball than kobe and he has far superior clutch stats... more unjustified bullshit jabbar.
How is kobe gonna stop lebron from rushing to the rim with noone behind him to pack the paint.
Lift your game boy.

let me remind you this is one on one vs prime kobe, no wade bosh or allen to play "smart" lebron ball, plus kobes defensive iq, quickness and lateral mvement would give bran hell

[Mr. Jabbar]

LOL, when did I say Lebron would win this?

that slipped, didnt mean to offend you, will edit

[sportjames23]

We cool. :cheers:

[KDthunderup]

Lebron

Bigger, faster, stronger

[TheMilkyBarKid]

let me remind you this is one on one vs prime kobe, no wade bosh or allen to play "smart" lebron ball, plus kobes defensive iq, quickness and lateral mvement would give bran hell
Lebron would bully kobe all over the court. Kobe would be left to cry on his mama's shoulder just like kd. Kobe would wish he ended up in prison once lebron is done raping his bitchass.
I am not a troll but i dont mind trolling the trolls.

[Number24]

LeBron easily...
But if this will be played in 4 quarters, Kobe may have a chance especially in the 4th. You know...:oldlol:

[moe94]

Honestly have no idea. It's a lot tougher than most of you are making it. You're just picking who you like better, but if you legit had to put everything on the line to pick one on a random day, would the answer be so easy? I'd like to say LeBron but then that dude Kobe can ball his ass off. Who the fvck knows? I'd close my eyes and choose the Bean and hope his jumper is wet.

[SexSymbol]

Everybody who has watched their teams' matches throughout the years, knows that Kobe always destroys lebron on ISO situations.
LeBron's great, but Kobe's the best of all-time 1x1

[SexSymbol]

Lebron would bully kobe all over the court. Kobe would be left to cry on his mama's shoulder just like kd. Kobe would wish he ended up in prison once lebron is done raping his bitchass.
I am not a troll but i dont mind trolling the trolls.
If you ever saw LAL-CLE or LAL-MIA you would know that whenever LeBron tries to backdown Kobe, Kobe doesn't give an inch, he's just as strong in the lowerbody, has that oldman strength

[Im Still Ballin]

If you ever saw LAL-CLE or LAL-MIA you would know that whenever LeBron tries to backdown Kobe, Kobe doesn't give an inch, he's just as strong in the lowerbody, has that oldman strength

If Lebron wants to get down low, he'll back Kobe all the way there, simple as that.

[sportjames23]

If you ever saw LAL-CLE or LAL-MIA you would know that whenever LeBron tries to backdown Kobe, Kobe doesn't give an inch, he's just as strong in the lowerbody, has that oldman strength


Oldman strength is real, ya'll. I mean, it's really real. Seen it live and I couldn't believe it. Put a young buck in check.

[Im Still Ballin]

Oldman strength is real, ya'll. I mean, it's really real. Seen it live and I couldn't believe it. Put a young buck in check.

yeah it's real but it dont change the fact that Lebron is alot stronger.

[SexSymbol]

If Lebron wants to get down low, he'll back Kobe all the way there, simple as that.
Definitely not, he has tried that in a game and failed multiple times.
You don't have to be as strong to not let other player back you down, you have to get great positioning, stick your knee into his ass and so on.
It's not about who deadlifts more, it's about positioning, and Kobe's intangibles are second to none.

[JebronLames]

LeBron easily. People think kobe cuz he has a better midrange and can score in more ways. But lebron's physical dominance would destroy him. Everyone's number one goal when playing lebron is to prevent him from attacking the basket, and they do that with help defense, defensive schemes, taking away space. In one on one, there is no help defense and there's a lot of space. Kobe's ability to score in different ways helps him in a game because you can't always get to the basket with help defense, lack of space. It's also helpful when the shot clock is running down, but there's no shot clock in one on one, and also no help defense which takes value away from Kobe's ability to score in different ways. So while kobe keeps getting 30-50% shots, lebron is getting 60-75% shots. Lebron wins most of the time. :rockon:

[Number24]

Physique alone will tell you Kobe have no chance!

[SexSymbol]

two guys above me have no clue about basketball.

[Ronaldinho]

Kobe, by far. Kobe vs Durant or Kobe vs Mcgrady or Kobe vs Melo would be more disputed and fun to watch.

Even MJ said that Kobe was the only who could beat him one on one :confusedshrug:

[Dragonyeuw]

LeBron easily. People think kobe cuz he has a better midrange and can score in more ways. But lebron's physical dominance would destroy him. Everyone's number one goal when playing lebron is to prevent him from attacking the basket, and they do that with help defense, defensive schemes, taking away space. In one on one, there is no help defense and there's a lot of space:

And in many cases, Lebron also uses his own teammates to screen for him opening lanes to the basket. He does not have a bevy of dribbling skills to free himself, nor does he possess a very fast first step, nothing that Kobe couldn't counteract with positioning and instincts. Effectively what Lebron lacks in ideal ISO skills, Kobe has in spades( iso dribbling, change of pace/direction,first step). Kobe also has more ability to make something out of nothing.

Lebron winning this matchup comes down to how well he can use his size vs how well Kobe can defend it. He's certainly not going to 'out ISO' him, that's for sure. Honestly I think they'll split a series, and it depends on rules ( winners/losers out), and invariables like who's 'on' that day. Lebron is indefensible IF his jumper is on, but we've also seen Kobe go into NBA jam mode where he makes all kinds of crazy shots. To say each guy beats the other 'easily' is ridiculous.

[plowking]

Did Gary Payton being 2 inches shorter and anywhere from 30-35 pounds lighter than Jordan stop him from being arguably the most effective defender against Jordan?

Since when did Lebron turn into this 9' 400 pound monster with the post skills of Hakeem?

He doesn't have to be Hakeem in the post. Lebron is already one of the most unstoppable and effective post players in the game. His drop step move last season was the most efficient and effective post move in the game. :oldlol:
I'm not sure if you actually watch the Heat, but any time Bron actually does catch the ball down low, he gets doubled 90% of the time to get the ball out of his hands down there. He is too good down there.

As for your Gary Payton talk, he was one of the strongest PG's ever... And it still doesn't take away from the fact that guarding someone with 4 other defenders on the court isn't the same as guarding someone with just you there.

[plowking]

Kobe, by far. Kobe vs Durant or Kobe vs Mcgrady or Kobe vs Melo would be more disputed and fun to watch.

Even MJ said that Kobe was the only who could beat him one on one :confusedshrug:

Jordan can say all he wants but reports say that he regularly got whooped on by James Worthy in college, and even Stackhouse beat him.
Size matters... Some of you seriously don't get it.

Not just the fact that Bron is stronger than Kobe, he is quicker and faster, and can jump higher. Bryant doesn't have a single physical advantage on the court. People need to stop pretending like Bron ain't backing down Kobe. He's done it to bigger and stronger players, like Artest who was on his team.

[plowking]

And in many cases, Lebron also uses his own teammates to screen for him opening lanes to the basket. He does not have a bevy of dribbling skills to free himself, nor does he possess a very fast first step, nothing that Kobe couldn't counteract with positioning and instincts. Effectively what Lebron lacks in ideal ISO skills, Kobe has in spades( iso dribbling, change of pace/direction,first step). Kobe also has more ability to make something out of nothing.

People said the same thing about Wade since Spo took over. It's the Heat's offense... Nothing more or less. We see Wade and Bron take guys off the dribble whenever they want.

[Ronaldinho]

Jordan can say all he wants but reports say that he regularly got whooped on by James Worthy in college, and even Stackhouse beat him.
Size matters... Some of you seriously don't get it.

Not just the fact that Bron is stronger than Kobe, he is quicker and faster, and can jump higher. Bryant doesn't have a single physical advantage on the court. People need to stop pretending like Bron ain't backing down Kobe. He's done it to bigger and stronger players, like Artest who was on his team.
You talk like Kobe was like a white boy. We are talking about a PRIME KOBE. Prime Kobe was one of the most athletically and SKILLED player ever. Kobe is 6,6 for christ sake, you are talking like Lebron is 7 foot tall.

If one on one is all about height and strength than no one can beat Shaq, and thats not true.

Btw, Lebron isnt faster/quicker than prime Kobe.

[Jlamb47]

Prime Kobe

Prime kobe was athletic AF
yal making it like hes slow or something
he was great at defense back then too
Hes a 1 on 1 player.

[tmacattack33]

One on one?

I'm not sure exactly what would happen in a one-on-one between these two specifically, but in terms of who is a better one-on-one player period it's Kobe.

Lebron's best strength is passing which you obviously can't do in a one on one situation.

Other great strenghts of Lebron's are fast break offense, fast break defense, pick n roll's on offense, help defense, versatility on defense, and rebounding. These do not come into play in a one on one game.

[SilkkTheShocker]

13-6.

[Da_Realist]

LeBron easily. People think kobe cuz he has a better midrange and can score in more ways. But lebron's physical dominance would destroy him. Everyone's number one goal when playing lebron is to prevent him from attacking the basket, and they do that with help defense, defensive schemes, taking away space. In one on one, there is no help defense and there's a lot of space. Kobe's ability to score in different ways helps him in a game because you can't always get to the basket with help defense, lack of space. It's also helpful when the shot clock is running down, but there's no shot clock in one on one, and also no help defense which takes value away from Kobe's ability to score in different ways. So while kobe keeps getting 30-50% shots, lebron is getting 60-75% shots. Lebron wins most of the time. :rockon:

This. One on one is a different game. Size almost always wins. Lebron would do a better job defending Kobe than Kobe would stopping Lebron from just backing him down underneath the basket and laying it up.

Kobe could win if he goes on a hot streak and/or if Lebron tries to out-shoot Kobe from the perimeter. If Lebron played sound defense and backed Kobe down every time, he would win the majority of the games.

[Ronaldinho]

This. One on one is a different game. Size almost always wins. Lebron would do a better job defending Kobe than Kobe would stopping Lebron from just backing him down underneath the basket and laying it up.

Kobe could win if he goes on a hot streak and/or if Lebron tries to out-shoot Kobe from the perimeter. If Lebron played sound defense and backed Kobe down every time, he would win the majority of the games.

Kobe 6,6 205 lb
Lebron 6,8 250 lb

Do you really think that Lebron could just back Kobe and make a layup :oldlol:

Lebron isnt Shaq, wtf

[Angel Face]

In every one on one match, whether it is Basketball, Boxing, Muay Thai, etc. Technique usually beat size and strength. Kobe is one of the best isolation player that has ever played the game. Lebron lacks isolation moves and his game is more geared towards team ball not 1 on 1. I don't see Lebron winning against Kobe here.

Kobe vs Durant / Melo would be a better match up.

[PHILA]

Size almost always wins.
Yes, the concept of 1 on 1 is that there is no help defense at all. It is all about getting to the basket. In an all time tournament one of the great centers would likely win it all. But among the players under 6'9 I believe Barkley would be a heavy contender as the favorite, simply because there is no ideal matchup for him. He may have problems on defense, but offensively he would overpower just about anyone and had an incredible motor on the offensive boards. Even players like Pippen and Grant as terrific as they were defensively, couldn't do anything with him. He may the only player I have seen who commanded an instant double team just by touching the ball anywhere inside the 3 point line.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgORfyjeFQ8&t=2m28s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMd7a9CCvXA&t=1m23s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmjUpA3UVlA&t=3m5s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmjUpA3UVlA&t=3m05s)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsTKc_AKSlU&t=8m5s

[PHILA]

Post up on Antoine Carr, with Robinson waiting in the paint

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-imVa1uNU8&t=16m14s

[Dragonyeuw]

We see Wade and Bron take guys off the dribble whenever they want.

You say that as if everyone has Kobe's defensive ability( that is, when he makes the effort). I don't see Lebron consistently taking Kobe off the dribble if he locks in defensively. I figure the best defense against Lebron in this instance is to play off him. Lebron's advantage in this matchup is size, not 'outmaneuvering' him. I mean look at this( I realize its just a one-off example):

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iou1L27tyZI

In the above, there's noone helping on defense. Its a straight mano a mano situation, and this is a prime Wade with better iso skills, first step,and quickness than Lebron has. In terms of staying in front of Lebron, Kobe is one of the few in a one on one situation athletic enough to do it.

Truth be told, if every one of these hypothetical matchups is always going to come down to 'the bigger player will win', then there's not much point even having the discussion.

[tpols]

Jordan can say all he wants but reports say that he regularly got whooped on by James Worthy in college, and even Stackhouse beat him.
Size matters... Some of you seriously don't get it.

Not just the fact that Bron is stronger than Kobe, he is quicker and faster, and can jump higher. Bryant doesn't have a single physical advantage on the court. People need to stop pretending like Bron ain't backing down Kobe. He's done it to bigger and stronger players, like Artest who was on his team.

Kobes quicker, has better lateral movement, and has a better first step.. and those things all matter 1v1.

Bran does have a good post game now but its mostly an offball game where he seals a smaller guy off deep and goes to work with only a few dribbles. Thats totally different from trying to back someone down from the top of the key.

Kobe's one of the most experienced post players to ever play in the league.. and his only defensive worth is in his ability to play lock in man defense.

[Da_Realist]

Kobe 6,6 205 lb
Lebron 6,8 250 lb

Do you really think that Lebron could just back Kobe and make a layup :oldlol:

Lebron isnt Shaq, wtf

Look at the numbers you posted. :facepalm What is all that skill going to do with an extra 2 inches and 45 lbs backing you down every time Lebron has the ball? You act like Lebron is Stacy King. Lebron would eat Kobe alive in the post if there was no one there to help simply because he's strong enough to get easy shots every time.

Size ain't everything but when you combine Lebron's size with his quickness and jumping ability, it's a devastating recipe for a one-on-one game. Half of Kobe's offensive repertoire is nullified because he has to work off the dribble to score. No running off screens and getting in the 3-point stance. No backdoors. No skilled footwork after getting a pass and being able to choose to drive or fadeaway. Working off the dribble exclusively helps him against players his size but would limit him in a one-on-one matchup with a bigger Lebron. Lebron is quick enough to stay in front of Kobe and force him to shoot a ton of jumpshots. Kobe is not strong enough to consistently stop Lebron from backing his way to the basket. Do the math.

And defending someone much bigger and fighting off that weight wears you down over the course of the game. Kobe is more skilled and can be considered a better basketball player but one-on-one is a different game.

[Solefade]

it's like saying jordan is the greatest 1v1 player ever and he would probably lose to shaq since shaq can't shoot :facepalm

this is what all of you kobe supporters sound like



kobe can do all the dancing and fancy footwork he wants but all lebron will do is back him down until he's under the basket and lay it up...and don't worry lebron isn't gonna pass it cus there's no double team coming

[Heavincent]

Lebron would do a better job defending Kobe than Kobe would stopping Lebron from just backing him down underneath the basket and laying it up.

Talk about hyperbole. Lebron wouldn't be able to just start form the perimeter and back Kobe under the basket. That's a joke. Kobe isn't Jodie Meeks. He's one of the strongest guards to ever play the game.

http://i.minus.com/im7wcIel4GOoO.gif

Strength differential is being hugely exaggerated in this thread. Lebron is stronger, but it's not that big of a difference.

[sd3035]

Kobe would absolutely murder him

Now, Kobe vs Durant would be interesting

[Solefade]

Talk about hyperbole. Lebron wouldn't be able to just start form the perimeter and back Kobe under the basket. That's a joke. Kobe isn't Jodie Meeks. He's one of the strongest guards to ever play the game.

http://i.minus.com/im7wcIel4GOoO.gif

Strength differential is being hugely exaggerated in this thread. Lebron is stronger, but it's not that big of a difference.

you posted a .gif from 2011/early 2012 before lebron had any real post game but ok

[Da_Realist]

Talk about hyperbole. Lebron wouldn't be able to just start form the perimeter and back Kobe under the basket. That's a joke. Kobe isn't Jodie Meeks. He's one of the strongest guards to ever play the game.

http://i.minus.com/im7wcIel4GOoO.gif

Strength differential is being hugely exaggerated in this thread. Lebron is stronger, but it's not that big of a difference.

Lebron wouldn't need to back Kobe down from the halfcourt line. wtf? Lebron does have a face up game. I don't think he'd have a problem dribbling to the free throw line before putting his butt on Kobe and waltzing to the basket if that's what he wanted to do.

[plowking]

You say that as if everyone has Kobe's defensive ability( that is, when he makes the effort). I don't see Lebron consistently taking Kobe off the dribble if he locks in defensively. I figure the best defense against Lebron in this instance is to play off him. Lebron's advantage in this matchup is size, not 'outmaneuvering' him. I mean look at this( I realize its just a one-off example):

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Iou1L27tyZI

In the above, there's noone helping on defense. Its a straight mano a mano situation, and this is a prime Wade with better iso skills, first step,and quickness than Lebron has. In terms of staying in front of Lebron, Kobe is one of the few in a one on one situation athletic enough to do it.

Truth be told, if every one of these hypothetical matchups is always going to come down to 'the bigger player will win', then there's not much point even having the discussion.

What you don't seem to understand is, much like Barkley or Baylor for example, Lebron is damn near a perfect build and style for a one on one game.

In all honesty, we've seen Lebron at the end of quarters when given the space on rare occasions by the other team simply get a running start and go all the way to the basket. How does Kobe stop that? How does he stop Bron backing him down and getting consistently easier shots?

That Wade video has nothing to do with Bron. Bron has a far tighter handle, and is not as easily pressured.

[plowking]

Talk about hyperbole. Lebron wouldn't be able to just start form the perimeter and back Kobe under the basket. That's a joke. Kobe isn't Jodie Meeks. He's one of the strongest guards to ever play the game.

http://i.minus.com/im7wcIel4GOoO.gif

Strength differential is being hugely exaggerated in this thread. Lebron is stronger, but it's not that big of a difference.

You literally posted a clip of Bron backing down Kobe quite easily, and being forced into a bad shot due to 2 defenders hedging and getting ready to double.

Once again, the other defenders wouldn't be there in a one on one game. Hence he would have kept going closer and closer to the bucket...

[Heavincent]

Lebron wouldn't need to back Kobe down from the halfcourt line. wtf? Lebron does have a face up game. I don't think he'd have a problem dribbling to the free throw line before putting his butt on Kobe and waltzing to the basket if that's what he wanted to do.

It wouldn't be that easy. Just look at the gif I posted. Lebron throws his weight into Kobe but hardly gets anywhere.

Dudes in this thread acting like Kobe is some wispy little weakling guard :oldlol:

[plowking]

It wouldn't be that easy. Just look at the gif I posted. Lebron throws his weight into Kobe but hardly gets anywhere.


Being a foot inside the 3 point line, to backing someone down to the point you're both in the paint...

"Not getting anywhere" folks.

[ImKobe]

People still think that 40 lbs and 2 inches would make Bran a favorite...

Kobe is obviously the more skilled 1-on-1 player, he has more tricks than Lebron could ever imagine... I think it would come down to who hits the toughest of shots and Kobe has that category on lock. I bet Kobe would give Bran just a little space so he would try some contested mid-range jumpers, Kobe would block him and/or strip him at least once. We all know that Kobe's the better man defender, so LeBron would have his hands full.

From all the Lebron vs. Kobe footage that I've watched, Kobe seems to dominate Lebron on both ends of the court. Kobe's perimeter defense is lightyears ahead of Lebron's & even though Lebron has a solid 40 pounds on him, Kobe is the stronger player. Lebron is not going to get a whole lot of foul calls in a 1-on-1 game, so Kobe would have another advantage in that regard.

People think that Lebron will just back down Kobe like he's Shaq or some shit, Kobe would steal the ball with ease.

Here is Lebron at his athletic peak, trying to get by Kobe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI

Here is Kobe, hitting 3 straight clutch shots (long 2s) over Lebron, there's nothing he can do to stop Kobe, 3 shots from the same spot & Lebron can't even keep up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo

[Da_Realist]

It wouldn't be that easy. Just look at the gif I posted. Lebron throws his weight into Kobe but hardly gets anywhere.

Dudes in this thread acting like Kobe is some wispy little weakling guard :oldlol:

No shot clock. No other teammates begging for the ball. If Lebron had a singular focus to back Kobe everytime he had the ball, he could do it. And let's not forget that if Kobe overplays, Lebron could get to the basket quickly. Posting up wouldn't be the only way Lebron could score, but if he focused on that it would open up other things.

Like I said, if Lebron got into a shooting contest, he would lose. If Lebron didn't care about how he looked and just decided to shoot every shot in the paint, he would win the majority of the time.

It's not just Kobe. Jordan, too. Size matters. I think somebody already mentioned James Worthy earlier.

[Heavincent]

Being a foot inside the 3 point line, to backing someone down to the point you're both in the paint...

"Not getting anywhere" folks.

Lebron didn't get into the paint, despite backing him down for a good 5 seconds.

Kobe forced Lebron into an ugly airball, yet you're somehow refuting the gif as evidence? Post a clip of Lebron backing down Kobe under the basket Shaq style, because that's what some people are implying would happen.

[Dragonyeuw]

1)In all honesty, we've seen Lebron at the end of quarters when given the space on rare occasions by the other team simply get a running start and go all the way to the basket.

2) How does Kobe stop that? How does he stop Bron backing him down and getting consistently easier shots?

3)That Wade video has nothing to do with Bron. Bron has a far tighter handle, and is not as easily pressured.

1) In what circumstance is this going to happen, in a one on one game, for Lebron to consistently get a running start? Is this a fullcourt or half-court one on one game?

2) I've made no argument against Kobe stopping Lebron if he consistently gets deep position. Some of you seem to be advocating that Lebron will simply back down 10/10 times and dunk in Kobe's face like he's the size of Iverson.

3)You brought Wade's name up earlier, saying that Wade and Lebron take guys off the dribble all the time. The point of bringing up the Wade video is to show that Wade has iso dribbling skills more suited to one on one play and beating your man off the dribble than Lebron would, especially if the defender is someone of Kobe's ability.

[plowking]

Lebron didn't get into the paint, despite backing him down for a good 5 seconds.

Well, watching the gif, I clearly see his left foot in the paint. But okay.

5 seconds? It took 3 dribbles...

You blame others for exaggerating yet you can't even acknowledge what is happening in the material you chose to post.

Kobe didn't force Lebron into anything. The 2 defenders hedging and helping the whole time did. And once again, he was moving Kobe into the paint... Those two defenders aren't there in a one on one game. He would have kept going and drop stepped for an easy layup. Just about every time.

[Solefade]

Lebron didn't get into the paint, despite backing him down for a good 5 seconds.

Kobe forced Lebron into an ugly airball, yet you're somehow refuting the gif as evidence? Post a clip of Lebron backing down Kobe under the basket Shaq style, because that's what some people are implying would happen.


lol lebron is actually backing down kobe pretty easily in this clip until bynum came over and made him rush his shot :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

Well, watching the gif, I clearly see his left foot in the paint. But okay.

5 seconds? It took 3 dribbles...

You blame others for exaggerating yet you can't even acknowledge what is happening in the material you chose to post.

Okay, he barely gets the tip of his foot in the paint before throwing up an airball. Whatever.

Look at the shotclock buddy. It's at 14 when he gets the ball, and is at 8 when he shoots it.

[LBJ 23]

People think that Lebron will just back down Kobe like he's Shaq or some shit, Kobe would steal the ball with ease.

Here is Lebron at his athletic peak, trying to get by Kobe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTITRJp2bhI

Here is Kobe, hitting 3 straight clutch shots (long 2s) over Lebron, there's nothing he can do to stop Kobe, 3 shots from the same spot & Lebron can't even keep up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcMCA_sJuTo

Lol you Kobe fans are trying to actually help plowking in this argument or what? Firstly Heavenicent posts a gif where Lebron backs down Kobe quite easily and then he's about to get triple teamed and shots a bad shoot.

Now you post a video where Lebron actually gets by Kobe and he gets stripped only when Kwame forces the contact and then flops. You're not helping yourself with those videos guys.

[plowking]

1) In what circumstance is this going to happen, in a one on one game, for Lebron to consistently get a running start? Is this a fullcourt or half-court one on one game?

It's a half court game. Lebron can take a running start from the half court every time. He is a freight train and impossible to stop one on one.


2) I've made no argument against Kobe stopping Lebron if he consistently gets deep position. Some of you seem to be advocating that Lebron will simply back down 10/10 times and dunk in Kobe's face like he's the size of Iverson.

He won't dunk in his face every time, though he will get great position every time, and he will take a better shot than Kobe will for the majority of the game.


3)You brought Wade's name up earlier, saying that Wade and Lebron take guys off the dribble all the time. The point of bringing up the Wade video is to show that Wade has iso dribbling skills more suited to one on one play and beating your man off the dribble than Lebron would, especially if the defender is someone of Kobe's ability.

I brought up Wade initially to show you that you're wrong in saying Bron won't be able to get a screen to get open like he does at Miami. The same things were said about Wade, yet we all know both of these guys can. It is just the favourite set to run for Miami as it gives them options with the big rolling from the top of the key.

[plowking]

Okay, he barely gets the tip of his foot in the paint before throwing up an airball. Whatever.

Look at the shotclock buddy. It's at 14 when he gets the ball, and is at 8 when he shoots it.

Are you being this ignorant deliberately or are you seriously just a Lebron hater?

The gif you posted doesn't have the number 14 on the shot clock at any point. Not to mention Bron starts backing him down at 11 seconds, and his shot is out at 8, hence backing him down for 3 dribbles and about 2 seconds.

Seriously... there is no point arguing this shit anymore. People won't even acknowledge what is right in front of them... :facepalm

[Solefade]

Okay, he barely gets the tip of his foot in the paint before throwing up an airball. Whatever.

Look at the shotclock buddy. It's at 14 when he gets the ball, and is at 8 when he shoots it.


what does the shot clock matter? kobe is gonna check it to lebron and he's gonna get as much time as he wants, there won't be any ball denying in 1v1 lol

[Heavincent]

Are you being this ignorant deliberately or are you seriously just a Lebron hater?

The gif you posted doesn't have the number 14 on the shot clock at any point. Not to mention Bron starts backing him down at 11 seconds, and his shot is out at 8, hence backing him down for 3 dribbles and about 2 seconds.

Seriously... there is no point arguing this shit anymore. People won't even acknowledge what is right in front of them... :facepalm

You need your eyes checked buddy? It clearly says 14 at the start of the gif when Lebron already has the ball in his hands. Watch it again.

I count 4 dribbles btw.

[Rodmantheman]

Where would ISH be without Lebron or Kobe:lol

[SexSymbol]

It actually makes me laugh how people know so little about basketball yet post so many posts about it.
anybody who has laced em up on regular basis knows Kobe would win comfortably.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

LEBron via black on black crime:coleman:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Prime Kobe pretty easily; that 40lbs LeBron has won't mean much if anything..

[Solefade]

It actually makes me laugh how people know so little about basketball yet post so many posts about it.
anybody who has laced em up on regular basis knows Kobe would win comfortably.


the irony :oldlol:


go to the gym and play 1v1 against a guy that has some bball skills that's 40lbs heavier and has about 3-4 inches on you then let me know what the results are. It would be the same thing for lebron and kobe

[catquickspider]

Kobe 6,6 205 lb
Lebron 6,8 250 lb

Do you really think that Lebron could just back Kobe and make a layup :oldlol:

Lebron isnt Shaq, wtf

Kobe is not 205. He is at least 220. In his athletic prime, in 2003 he was at 230. :facepalm

[ZaaaaaH]

KB8 will win 8/10 games

KB24 will win 6/10 games


Also LeBron stan needs to stop talking about size, this shiiit aint porn its ****een basketball. :facepalm

[KirbyPls]

KB8 will win 8/10 games

KB24 will win 6/10 games


Also LeBron stan needs to stop talking about size, this shiiit aint porn its ****een basketball. :facepalm

Yep, size doesn't matter at all in basketball. :lol

[ShaqCarriedKobe]

LeBron would let Kobrick chuck and brick his way to the loss.

[Mr. Jabbar]

thought they closed this thread already? kobe won and wasn't even close. If lebron miraculously made it competitive he would just choke at the end

[Ronaldinho]

Kobe is not 205. He is at least 220. In his athletic prime, in 2003 he was at 230. :facepalm
It's easier for kobe then :lol.

[Rocketswin2013]

Well whoever gets ball first. And in any case, LeBron would win the tip and back his shit down to the restricted area. And lay it up. Every single time.

[SpecialQue]

Kobe.

[sdot_thadon]

I think this is Lebron all day, Kobe's repitoire would definitely make him a tough cover for Lebron but if we're talking prime Lebron then he'd try and force him into contested jumpers and hope Kobe doesn't get hot. If the rules are make it take it, could see Kobe getting a hot streak and riding it to a win. But no version of Kobe is strong enough to guard prime Lebron one on one, without a 7 footer in the back he'd live in the paint on drives and postups all game. Unless you want that one year Kobe was 230, which still wouldn't be strong enough and would be easier for Lebron to stay in front of as well. I believe Cleveland Lebron vs. Prime Kobe would be far more entertaining, as Lebron wouldn't have his post game yet and his defense was a bit weaker. But prime vs. Prime is no question the bigger man wins 9 out 10.

[Rocketswin2013]

Kobe.
LOL. Just: "Kobe." No explaining why.


Because realistically he'd get his shit pushed in no matter how you look at it vs. LeBron 1 v.1. In any time of his career. His peak playing weight would get chucked around the court by LeBron and he'd wouldn't be able to stop him.


On the other hand, he could probably score on LeBron at will but he probably wn't even get the ball.

[AnaheimLakers24]

kobe easily. nate Robinson would put up a better fight than bran

[ShaqCarriedKobe]

Only way Kobrick wins is if it's 2-on-2 and Kobrick has prime Shaq or Pau to carry him.

[Ronaldinho]

I think this is Lebron all day, Kobe's repitoire would definitely make him a tough cover for Lebron but if we're talking prime Lebron then he'd try and force him into contested jumpers and hope Kobe doesn't get hot. If the rules are make it take it, could see Kobe getting a hot streak and riding it to a win. But no version of Kobe is strong enough to guard prime Lebron one on one, without a 7 footer in the back he'd live in the paint on drives and postups all game. Unless you want that one year Kobe was 230, which still wouldn't be strong enough and would be easier for Lebron to stay in front of as well. I believe Cleveland Lebron vs. Prime Kobe would be far more entertaining, as Lebron wouldn't have his post game yet and his defense was a bit weaker. But prime vs. Prime is no question the bigger man wins 9 out 10.

20lb or 9kg isnt that much. The same way, 6'6 and 6'8 isnt much different, 5 centimeters.

Ppl talking like Lebron is Shaq:lol

This is a big difference:

http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/10/kobe-shaq-double-teapot.jpg

This isnt a big difference:

http://tyroneeagleeyenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Kobe-and-Lebron.jpg

[Solefade]

20lb or 9kg isnt that much. The same way, 6'6 and 6'8 isnt much different, 5 centimeters.

Ppl talking like Lebron is Shaq:lol

This is a big difference:

http://blogimages.thescore.com/tbj/files/2011/10/kobe-shaq-double-teapot.jpg

This isnt a big difference:

http://tyroneeagleeyenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Kobe-and-Lebron.jpg


lebron to kobe is shaq to jason collins...same shit

[GODbe]

Im gonna have to go with the guy thats blocked and dunked on the other multiple times whilst out of his prime.:confusedshrug:

[SexSymbol]

the irony :oldlol:


go to the gym and play 1v1 against a guy that has some bball skills that's 40lbs heavier and has about 3-4 inches on you then let me know what the results are. It would be the same thing for lebron and kobe
I have repeatedly beaten bigger guys 1x1 back when we used to train for the team.
Weren't no slouches either, one of those three guys ran faster than me and jumped a little higher than me while having 3-5 inches on me.
And the difference between LeBron and Kobe is 2 inches, that's nothing.
If you position the right way, you will win, 1x1 has it's certain style of play, you can be all-time great at teamwork and suck at 1x1 at the same time.

[Prometheus]

Kobe would win. Basketball is a team game, and LeBron is a better baskeball player, but in one-on-one Kobe would win. The end.

[Heavincent]

http://shatterthebackboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Kobe-and-Lebron.jpg

That's not a significant difference in size...at all.

Besides, a fundamentally sound defender can easily overcome size differential. Hell, we just saw 6'4 Tony Allen put the clamps down on 6'10 Kevin Durant.

[sdot_thadon]

20lb or 9kg isnt that much. The same way, 6'6 and 6'8 isnt much different, 5 centimeters.

Ppl talking like Lebron is Shaq:lol
No, no one claimed he's Shaq but he'd be way more physically impossing than a sg. Lebron's post game has come a long way, especially his use of his size advantage. If you pay attention in the paint he punishes bigs at times. Hibbert the last Indy game comes to mind, the play where he missed a wild layup but managed to bodycheck Roy in the process. Had dude holding his side after the play. If you're suggesting Kobe would fare better against him around the bucket than actually defensive bigs then more power to you.


That's not a significant difference in size...at all.*

Besides, a fundamentally sound defender can easily overcome size differential. Hell, we just saw 6'4 Tony Allen manhandled 6'10 Kevin Durant.
Corrected. Also that picture is from the Cavs, Lebron got a bit bigger since then. Also, really? Kd in a strength comparison......lmao

[Rocketswin2013]

http://shatterthebackboard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Kobe-and-Lebron.jpg

That's not a significant difference in size...at all.

Besides, a fundamentally sound defender can easily overcome size differential. Hell, we just saw 6'4 Tony Allen put the clamps down on 6'10 Kevin Durant.
Durant is in general not a strong player for his size. LeBron is very strong in general. You really think the difference between 205 and 250 is not "significant" at all? 10 pounds is alot. But 45? Kobe's peak playing weight at 230 still wouldn't bother him. 230 George gets manhandled by him every time down in the low-post.

[Dragonyeuw]

It's a half court game. Lebron can take a running start from the half court every time. He is a freight train and impossible to stop one on one.



He won't dunk in his face every time, though he will get great position every time, and he will take a better shot than Kobe will for the majority of the game.



I brought up Wade initially to show you that you're wrong in saying Bron won't be able to get a screen to get open like he does at Miami. The same things were said about Wade, yet we all know both of these guys can. It is just the favourite set to run for Miami as it gives them options with the big rolling from the top of the key.

- So he's going to get the ball at the top of the key, and just 'get a running start'. OK. Lebron's speed is best demonstrated when he's on the break and he can gain momentum. He's not extremely explosive off the dribble or first step-wise, not to where someone with Kobe's athleticism is going to be left in the dust. Freight train? Have you ever seen one get to top speed immediately? Me neither.


- The best version of Kobe to put on Lebron is 2003 Kobe. He was about 230 that year and reportedly benching 350. Lebron still has an edge, but you guys make it sound like its Shaq backing down Mugsy Bogues, or that Kobe doesn't know how to position himself to at least make Lebron work to get good position. I also love how so much emphasis is on Kobe trying to stop Lebron, as if Kobe isn't going to be working his ass on the other end.


- How am I wrong in saying that Lebron wont be able to get a screen? Its a one on one game, nobody is going to be screening for anyone else. Lebron, on athleticism alone, can barrel past people to get to the rim but Kobe isn't just anyone. He has the defensive instincts and lateral quickness to make it tough for Lebron to drive past him time and time again. Lebron's advantage, which the pro-bron crowd keep harping on, is his size and weight edge.

[Ronaldinho]

Durant is in general not a strong player for his size. LeBron is very strong in general. You really think the difference between 205 and 250 is not "significant" at all? 10 pounds is alot. But 45? Kobe's peak playing weight at 230 still wouldn't bother him. 230 George gets manhandled by him every time down in the low-post.
20 pounds is 9kg, wth are you talking about? We are talking about prime Kobe here, not a 34 year old veteran.

Btw Lebron post game is shit compared to Kobe. He got better, but is miles below Kobe.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SEkMcQDFT6U/Umah0_3CfAI/AAAAAAAAAFo/ywF-hpyZEpU/s1600/lebron1.jpg

http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/lebron_kobe.jpg

Look at the photos

Ppl talking like Lebron is much bigger and strong, wtf :lol

[Relinquish]

If Kobe's jumper is on point, then definitely Kobe. But if his jumper is off a bit, I could see Lebron winning easily since he's so much stronger and can get to the rim.

[sdot_thadon]

20 pounds is 9kg, wth are you talking about? We are talking about prime Kobe here, not a 34 year old veteran.

Btw Lebron post game is shit compared to Kobe. He got better, but is miles below Kobe.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SEkMcQDFT6U/Umah0_3CfAI/AAAAAAAAAFo/ywF-hpyZEpU/s1600/lebron1.jpg

http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/lebron_kobe.jpg

Look at the photos

Ppl talking like Lebron is much bigger and strong, wtf :lol
So when you watch Kobe play and you watch Lebron play, you feel they have comparable strength?

[aboss4real24]

Lebron at the age of 21 was better than KB at his peak

so i go with Lebron

[town bidness]

kobe.

[aboss4real24]

20 pounds is 9kg, wth are you talking about? We are talking about prime Kobe here, not a 34 year old veteran.

Btw Lebron post game is shit compared to Kobe. He got better, but is miles below Kobe.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SEkMcQDFT6U/Umah0_3CfAI/AAAAAAAAAFo/ywF-hpyZEpU/s1600/lebron1.jpg

http://www.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/lebron_kobe.jpg

Look at the photos

Ppl talking like Lebron is much bigger and strong, wtf :lol

LB Is way bigger

Hes taller by 2 or 3 inches

and out weighs him by 50-60 pounds

and hes way stronger

Not sure if ur trolling

[moe94]

LB Is way bigger

Hes taller by 2 or 3 inches

and out weighs him by 50-60 pounds

and hes way stronger

Not sure if ur trolling


It's called denial.

[Bob Dole]

Lebron and by a decent margin.

I see how many losers on here who have never actually played a game of 1 on 1

[Solefade]

I have repeatedly beaten bigger guys 1x1 back when we used to train for the team.
Weren't no slouches either, one of those three guys ran faster than me and jumped a little higher than me while having 3-5 inches on me.
And the difference between LeBron and Kobe is 2 inches, that's nothing.
If you position the right way, you will win, 1x1 has it's certain style of play, you can be all-time great at teamwork and suck at 1x1 at the same time.


:rolleyes:


this is lebron and kobe we're talking about not some youth basketball association shit

[Calabis]

Kobe better have a off shooting night, otherwise he is going to destroy Lebron. Kobe far more explosive from the stand still(rocker step), Kobe better post moves, fadeaway, Kobe better range. If Kobe is hitting, Lebron will have to get up on him, at that time Kobe will go by him. We are talking Prime Kobe here right?

[Solefade]

Kobe better have a off shooting night, otherwise he is going to destroy Lebron. Kobe far more explosive from the stand still(rocker step), Kobe better post moves, fadeaway, Kobe better range. If Kobe is hitting, Lebron will have to get up on him, at that time Kobe will go by him.


so you only discussed how lebron's going to have a hard time guarding kobe which is probably true but how the fvck is kobe gonna guard lebron when he has 40+ lbs and 3 inches on kobe? :oldlol:

[AnaheimLakers24]

kobe can handle tall retards. its no problem for him so gay boy brans height cancels out
http://dreamonhoops.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/yao.jpg

[Calabis]

so you only discussed how lebron's going to have a hard time guarding kobe which is probably true but how the fvck is kobe gonna guard lebron when he has 40+ lbs and 3 inches on kobe? :oldlol:

Lebron doesn't have a great jumper, better than most of us, but not by NBA standards....Kobe would just sag off to create space to give him more reaction time for Lebrons drive to the basket, while sitting on his right hand. Lebron will have to take the ball inside a ton or back Kobe down....which won't be that easy. Lebron may have 40lbs on him but let's be real, his post up game may be the weakest part of his game.

Lebron is not a great one on one player(in terms of the best of the best in NBA), his skillset dominates a 5 on 5 basketball game(better than Kobe imo.) let's not get the two confused.


***Also are we going to act like Kobe cannot handle 250-60lbs? If he maintains leverage, Lebron is not going to just back him down from the three point line/top of the key anytime he wants.

Now can Lebron win...yes these MFers are the cream of the crop in NBA all time, if Kobe can't hit his jumper he is in for a long night. If he is hitting, he beats Lebron by larger margins than Lebron beats him. When it gets to that level, anyone can be beaten.

[Solefade]

Lebron doesn't have a great jumper, better than most of us, but not by NBA standards....Kobe would just sag off to create space to give him more reaction time for Lebrons drive to the basket, while sitting on his right hand. Lebron will have to take the ball inside a ton or back Kobe down....which won't be that easy. Lebron may have 40lbs on him but let's be real, his post up game may be the weakest part of his game.

Lebron is not a great one on one player(in terms of the best of the best in NBA), his skillset dominates a 5 on 5 basketball game(better than Kobe imo.) let's not get the two confused.


***Also are we going to act like Kobe cannot handle 250-60lbs? If he maintains leverage, Lebron is not going to just back him down from the three point line/top of the key anytime he wants.

Now can Lebron win...yes these MFers are the cream of the crop in NBA all time, if Kobe can't hit his jumper he is in for a long night. If he is hitting, he beats Lebron by larger margins than Lebron beats him. When it gets to that level, anyone can be beaten.

you're missing the point and you're wrong on the other


1. Lebron get a good shot or lay up in the paint EVERY SINGLE TIME, he'll probably never take a jump shot

2. Kobe CAN'T handle Lebron in the post...you saw what he did to Paul George who's bigger so what makes you think Kobe can?

[yarrak]

I swear some people here have never played basketball. It's not easy to go against someone who is bigger, taller and more athletic than you.

LeBron would get a lay up everytime. There is nothing Kobe can do to stop LeBron. He is taller, stronger, faster, bigger, more athletic. Sure Kobe is a great one on one player but he won't be able to get good looks everytime. Kobe needs to be on fire to beat LeBron. If he can't make his jump shots, there is no way he can beat lebron.

Lebron can take him to the hole every single time. With no help defense, there is not much Kobe can do.

[Milbuck]

I swear some people here have never played basketball. It's not easy to go against someone who is bigger, taller and more athletic than you.

LeBron would get a lay up everytime. There is nothing Kobe can do to stop LeBron. He is taller, stronger, faster, bigger, more athletic. Sure Kobe is a great one on one player but he won't be able to get good looks everytime. Kobe needs to be on fire to beat LeBron. If he can't make his jump shots, there is no way he can beat lebron.

Lebron can take him to the hole every single time. With no help defense, there is not much Kobe can do.
You just had to get on an alt for emphasis?

[yarrak]

You just had to get on an alt for emphasis?

Not an alt. I just got my account activated today. I don't have any other accounts.

[Calabis]

you're missing the point and you're wrong on the other


1. Lebron get a good shot or lay up in the paint EVERY SINGLE TIME, he'll probably never take a jump shot

2. Kobe CAN'T handle Lebron in the post...you saw what he did to Paul George who's bigger so what makes you think Kobe can?

1. LOL, first off Lebron is not getting a lay up every time, are you insane?

2. When did Paul George ever become as strong as Kobe....Kobe is a much stronger player....also this isn't a 5 on 5 game. Lebron has to get to the post first. You guys acting like its a walk in the park.

[Black and White]

I swear some people here have never played basketball. It's not easy to go against someone who is bigger, taller and more athletic than you.

LeBron would get a lay up everytime. There is nothing Kobe can do to stop LeBron. He is taller, stronger, faster, bigger, more athletic. Sure Kobe is a great one on one player but he won't be able to get good looks everytime. Kobe needs to be on fire to beat LeBron. If he can't make his jump shots, there is no way he can beat lebron.

Lebron can take him to the hole every single time. With no help defense, there is not much Kobe can do.

This right here is second nature to a player like Kobe:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3167276/kobe-fadeaway-on-lebron-o.gif

[yarrak]

This right here is second nature to a player like Kobe:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3167276/kobe-fadeaway-on-lebron-o.gif

If he makes those shots on a consistent basis, then he stands a chance but we all know that he won't:no:

[Black and White]

If he makes those shots on a consistent basis, then he stands a chance but we all know that he won't:no:

Its what he does, he posts up and fades on everybody, if you watched him play at all you would know that the fadeaway is one of his go to moves, there is nothing fluky about it, everything is controlled from his stance to his head position to his release point.

[Calabis]

I swear some people here have never played basketball. It's not easy to go against someone who is bigger, taller and more athletic than you.

LeBron would get a lay up everytime. There is nothing Kobe can do to stop LeBron. He is taller, stronger, faster, bigger, more athletic. Sure Kobe is a great one on one player but he won't be able to get good looks everytime. Kobe needs to be on fire to beat LeBron. If he can't make his jump shots, there is no way he can beat lebron.

Lebron can take him to the hole every single time. With no help defense, there is not much Kobe can do.

This is the most insane crap ever. Just rewatch the ECF vs Bulls, he had several isolation sets against Butler(without help), yet he did not get by Butler on several occasions. If you think Prime Kobe is incapable of stopping Lebron from getting to the hole, then imo your insane.

[sdot_thadon]

LOL How do you judge STRENGTH? Because Paul George guards 3's and 4's with his flexibility while Kobe at best will guard a 3 effectively.

Kobe in his athletic peak speed and quickness considered was 205-215 pounds. No ****ing way a 230 pound Kobe is keeping up with any form of Lebron 09-14 off the dribble and no way a 215 pound Kobe is keeping LeBron out of the paint. Where Lebron shoots 70%+ in actual NBA games vs 5 defenders. Wtf can Kobe do BY HIMSELF to stop a guy capable of that?
Winner

[Solefade]

This is the most insane crap ever. Just rewatch the ECF vs Bulls, he had several isolation sets against Butler(without help), yet he did not get by Butler on several occasions. If you think Prime Kobe is incapable of stopping Lebron from getting to the hole, then imo your insane.


are you fvcking stupid? butler had help, that's THIB'S DEFENSE :facepalm


butler did a great job on bron but don't act like he did that by himself, you're dumb as hell



lebron on kobe would look something similar to this:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/cc9bb1248245c17e4f357a9e10077316/tumblr_mwym0ttNLl1qcmnsoo1_400.gif

[Ronaldinho]

So when you watch Kobe play and you watch Lebron play, you feel they have comparable strength?
COMPARABLE? Absolut. Lebron is stronger and taller, but it doesnt mean that he could back Kobe on his will.

One guy is 6,8 and 250 lb
The other is 6,6 and 230 lb.

Stop with this nonsense. Kobe would kill Lebron in the post

http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/11/25/101125035807433904.gif

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Lebron%20James/71792eda.gif

http://minus.com/is0ppYV4h9btB.gif

Layup everytime, getfo

http://nsa23.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020073828342869.gif
Like lebron can defend this :lol

http://nsa23.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020084916741524.gif

[Ronaldinho]

are you fvcking stupid? butler had help, that's THIB'S DEFENSE :facepalm


butler did a great job on bron but don't act like he did that by himself, you're dumb as hell



lebron on kobe would look something similar to this:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/cc9bb1248245c17e4f357a9e10077316/tumblr_mwym0ttNLl1qcmnsoo1_400.gif
Show any proof :lol

[DFish24]

Bran stans: bran
Everyone else: Kobe

[SamuraiSWISH]

Kobe is the 2nd best ISO scorer ever after MJ. So of course it's Kobe. LeBron the more productive team player however. That's pretty much the decisive stance. Kobe was by far less dependent on screens than LeBron, and it isn't the Miami offensive system that is exclusively responsible for that. MJ, and Kobe on their own can score at will.

[yarrak]

Its what he does, he posts up and fades on everybody, if you watched him play at all you would know that the fadeaway is one of his go to moves, there is nothing fluky about it, everything is controlled from his stance to his head position to his release point.

Yeah, he shoots 45% from the field. I never said he can't make crazy ass shots. I just said that he won't be able to make those shots on a consistent basis. What I mean by that is like 6-7 out of 10. Lay ups>jump shots. Simple as that. You can't beat someone by shooting crazy hard fade aways/jumpshots when your opponent gets a lay up almost every time.


This is the most insane crap ever. Just rewatch the ECF vs Bulls, he had several isolation sets against Butler(without help), yet he did not get by Butler on several occasions. If you think Prime Kobe is incapable of stopping Lebron from getting to the hole, then imo your insane.

Dude how dumb are you? You really think attacking someone in an nba game where you go against 5 defenders is the same thing as going against someone in a 1 vs 1 game? You know there will be help defense coming your way. Besides Jimmy Butler has the size to handle Lebron to a certain extent. Kobe doesn't. Jimmy Butler wouldn't be able to handle LeBron in a 1 vs 1 game either when there is no help defense from others. I'm not insane. You're just dumb...

[Calabis]

LOL How do you judge STRENGTH? Because Paul George guards 3's and 4's with his flexibility while Kobe at best will guard a 3 effectively.

Kobe in his athletic peak speed and quickness considered was 205-215 pounds. No ****ing way a 230 pound Kobe is keeping up with any form of Lebron 09-14 off the dribble and no way a 215 pound Kobe is keeping LeBron out of the paint. Where Lebron shoots 70%+ in actual NBA games vs 5 defenders. Wtf can Kobe do BY HIMSELF to stop a guy capable of that?

WTF can Lebron do to Prime Kobe? Anyone can play that game....what will he do against Kobe's arsenal in a one on one game?

Also the way you guys are making it sound like Kobe is just bouncing off him like a 10lb kid...lmao. Not the best example(all star game), but I'm just curious as to why Lebron didn't just shove Kobe into the stands and dunk this one.

Start at 5:49 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tfq3V6C5dA

[plowking]

I love how people think this iso skillset is all that matters.

Michael Jordan told people James Worthy used to beat him regularly at one on ones. Why didn't the superior skill Jordan win every time?

EDIT: Another thing, Magic Johnson would probably beat Kobe too.

[Calabis]

are you fvcking stupid? butler had help, that's THIB'S DEFENSE :facepalm


butler did a great job on bron but don't act like he did that by himself, you're dumb as hell



lebron on kobe would look something similar to this:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/cc9bb1248245c17e4f357a9e10077316/tumblr_mwym0ttNLl1qcmnsoo1_400.gif

Like I said moron, he had isolation ops and didn't do all this blowing by or just walking into the lane, he was forced to shoot mid range jumpers. Butler stayed in front of him...plain and simple...watch the damn series, not highlights. Butler had help the majority of the time, but when he didn't Lebron didnt do much regardless.

[Calabis]

I love how people think this iso skillset is all that matters.

Michael Jordan told people James Worthy used to beat him regularly at one on ones. Why didn't the superior skill Jordan win every time?

Cause he was talking about college

[Jameerthefear]

Lebron owns Kobe. This isn't even a comparison.

[Calabis]

Yeah, he shoots 45% from the field. I never said he can't make crazy ass shots. I just said that he won't be able to make those shots on a consistent basis. What I mean by that is like 6-7 out of 10. Lay ups>jump shots. Simple as that. You can't beat someone by shooting crazy hard fade aways/jumpshots when your opponent gets a lay up almost every time.



Dude how dumb are you? You really think attacking someone in an nba game where you go against 5 defenders is the same thing as going against someone in a 1 vs 1 game? You know there will be help defense coming your way. Besides Jimmy Butler has the size to handle Lebron to a certain extent. Kobe doesn't. Jimmy Butler wouldn't be able to handle LeBron in a 1 vs 1 game either when there is no help defense from others. I'm not insane. You're just dumb...

LMAO Butler: 6'7 220...he has the weight right, Kobe at his peak level was 6'6 218-220, at one point, I believe 230ish in 2004, but he is too soft? GTFOH. LEbron is going to get some, but he is not going to get to the rim everytime...sorry live with it.

[sportjames23]

I love how people think this iso skillset is all that matters.

Michael Jordan told people James Worthy used to beat him regularly at one on ones. Why didn't the superior skill Jordan win every time?

EDIT: Another thing, Magic Johnson would probably beat Kobe too.

Um, that was freshman college Jordan playing against junior Worthy, dude.

Prime MJ woulda been a different beast. Prime Worthy, too, but NBA MJ was on a whole different level than college MJ.

[Calabis]

COMPARABLE? Absolut. Lebron is stronger and taller, but it doesnt mean that he could back Kobe on his will.

One guy is 6,8 and 250 lb
The other is 6,6 and 230 lb.

Stop with this nonsense. Kobe would kill Lebron in the post

http://nsa20.casimages.com/img/2010/11/25/101125035807433904.gif

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn200/nbacardDOTnet/zz%20NBA%20Photo%20Gallery/z%20Funny%20NBA%20Photos/0%20Players/Lebron%20James/71792eda.gif

http://minus.com/is0ppYV4h9btB.gif

Layup everytime, getfo

http://nsa23.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020073828342869.gif
Like lebron can defend this :lol

http://nsa23.casimages.com/img/2010/10/20/101020084916741524.gif

Like the vid I posted, Kobe just rode his hip, pushed him off trajectory, then blocked his shot. Again Lebron will get some, but its obvious some guys here never played one on one

[Calabis]

This right here is second nature to a player like Kobe:

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view1/3167276/kobe-fadeaway-on-lebron-o.gif

Please explain how Kobe was able to move Hercules:eek:

[Calabis]

LOL How do you judge STRENGTH? Because Paul George guards 3's and 4's with his flexibility while Kobe at best will guard a 3 effectively.

Kobe in his athletic peak speed and quickness considered was 205-215 pounds. No ****ing way a 230 pound Kobe is keeping up with any form of Lebron 09-14 off the dribble and no way a 215 pound Kobe is keeping LeBron out of the paint. Where Lebron shoots 70%+ in actual NBA games vs 5 defenders. Wtf can Kobe do BY HIMSELF to stop a guy capable of that?

So what was Kobe doing from age 26-28, when he weighed 225-230 those years? Didn't seem to slow to me, don't know what you were looking at.

[RRR3]

You talk like Kobe was like a white boy. We are talking about a PRIME KOBE. Prime Kobe was one of the most athletically and SKILLED player ever. Kobe is 6,6 for christ sake, you are talking like Lebron is 7 foot tall.

If one on one is all about height and strength than no one can beat Shaq, and thats not true.

Btw, Lebron isnt faster/quicker than prime Kobe.
So wait, this mythical "Prime Bean" was not only apparently the most skilled player ever but also just as fast/quick if not faster/quicker than LEBRON JAMES, yet he still couldn't outproduce LBJ? :biggums:

[Calabis]

So wait, this mythical "Prime Bean" was not only apparently the most skilled player ever but also just as fast/quick if not faster/quicker than LEBRON JAMES, yet he still couldn't outproduce LBJ? :biggums:

:facepalm

Outproduce Lebron? How do rebs and assists factor into a one on one game?

And this mythical Kobe, put up one of the best individual scoring seasons in NBA history.....I think that holds more value than a all around basketball game in a one on one matchup

[TheMarkMadsen]

Koe scored 81 playing 1 on 5. So I think he could out score Lebron playing 1 on 1

Lebron doesn't even have a quick first step, Kobe 1 on 1 would only have problems with Jordan

[moe94]

Koe scored 81 playing 1 on 5. So I think he could out score Lebron playing 1 on 1

Lebron doesn't even have a quick first step, Kobe 1 on 1 would only have problems with Jordan

Durant? What exactly is going Kobe going to do against him? :whatever:

Melo, too.

[Ronaldinho]

So wait, this mythical "Prime Bean" was not only apparently the most skilled player ever but also just as fast/quick if not faster/quicker than LEBRON JAMES, yet he still couldn't outproduce LBJ? :biggums:
First of all, the title of the topic is Lebron vs prime Kobe, one-on-one

Second, you cant get your parachute and just drop into this thread. This was a reply.

Third, i said Lebron isnt faster/quicker than prime Kobe. I didnt said Kobe was Usain bolt in front of Lebron.

If you read the topic, ppl were saying that Lebron is pretty much strong as Shaq and faster as Iverson. Like Lebron (6,8 and 250lb) would just back Kobe (6,6 and 230lb) with his Shaq strength.

Show me any proof that Lebron knows how to use his strength in the post and can back ppl up with his hulk strength, specially against Kobe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5LVWNQF5VE

[TheMarkMadsen]

Durant? What exactly is going Kobe going to do against him? :whatever:

Melo, too.

Prime Kobe? He'll D them up.

Oldbe dicked all over Melo in 09 WCF when they went up against each other.

[tpols]

LOL How do you judge STRENGTH? Because Paul George guards 3's and 4's with his flexibility while Kobe at best will guard a 3 effectively.

Kobe in his athletic peak speed and quickness considered was 205-215 pounds. No ****ing way a 230 pound Kobe is keeping up with any form of Lebron 09-14 off the dribble and no way a 215 pound Kobe is keeping LeBron out of the paint. Where Lebron shoots 70%+ in actual NBA games vs 5 defenders. Wtf can Kobe do BY HIMSELF to stop a guy capable of that?

If you're using 2009 and 2010 you dont get to give bron a post game since he really didnt have one back then and those two years he was at his quickest. And then if you use current bron or last year hes just not as quick off the dribble. Has had problems breaking his man down in the half court in the playoffs multiple years. In 09/10 he could do it at will.

Either way, a 230 lb Kobe could keep up with current bron and have the strength to hold his ground in the post, and if you wanna use 09 weak post game having bran I can raise you a 2001 or 2008 Kobe who could keep up with him and own that post matchup.

[RRR3]

Prime Kobe? He'll D them up.

Oldbe dicked all over Melo in 09 WCF when they went up against each other.
Melo does a good job of shutting himself down, not impressed at all. :durantunimpressed:

[eliteballer]

McGrady in 2003 needed screens to get around/away from Kobe and his first step was miles beyond brons. Go watch videos of 2003 Kobe and you'll see how his first step/quickness was faster than bron has ever had.

[Heavincent]

Prime Kobe? He'll D them up.

Oldbe dicked all over Melo in 09 WCF when they went up against each other.

08 as well. Melo doesn't have shit on Kobe. Melo's so called scoring arsenal is ridiculously overrated. He chucks up contested deep two's and three's all game. So what? Sometimes he gets hot, but everyone knows he'll be bricking those same shots in the next game. Not a good finisher, and he's not very quick.

[sdot_thadon]

COMPARABLE? Absolut. Lebron is stronger and taller, but it doesnt mean that he could back Kobe on his will.

One guy is 6,8 and 250 lb
The other is 6,6 and 230 lb.

Stop with this nonsense. Kobe would kill

Man, you're really not doin yourself any favors by showing gifs of help defense lol. Just stop please . So lemme get this straight, They are of comparable strength correct? Oh that's right Kobe is that guy know for being a freak of nature for his combo of speed, strength, and size right? Kobe is the guy that routinely puts the hurt on 4s and 5s in the paint right? Karl Malone with Mj's athleticism right? Yeah sounds just like Kobe.......:facepalm

And for the record I don't recall anyone saying Kobe won't be able to get his, just that Lebron is more capable of slowing him than vice versa.

[Ronaldinho]

Man, you're really not doin yourself any favors by showing gifs of help defense lol. Just stop please . So lemme get this straight, They are of comparable strength correct? Oh that's right Kobe is that guy know for being a freak of nature for his combo of speed, strength, and size right? Kobe is the guy that routinely puts the hurt on 4s and 5s in the paint right? Karl Malone with Mj's athleticism right? Yeah sounds just like Kobe.......:facepalm

And for the record I don't recall anyone saying Kobe won't be able to get his, just that Lebron is more capable of slowing him than vice versa.
It's a NBA game, of course there will be help defense. Specially with Lebron being so slow in the post, he doesnt seem fluid at all. The point is he was NOT backing ppl up like it was nothing, including a much shorter and weaker Tony Allen.

Kobe is a freak of nature, although he isnt more athletically than Lebron.

And ppl are saying lebron wil get layups EVERY SINGLE TIME, just backing up. Which is a lie.

[stalkerforlife]

Kobe without question. He's far more individually skilled and surprisingly, at about 60 pounds lighter, he is far superior to LBJ in the post. Just head and shoulders a better post player.

Kobe would win a 7 game series in 4.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe without question. He's far more individually skilled and surprisingly, at about 60 pounds lighter, he is far superior to LBJ in the post. Just head and shoulders a better post player.

Kobe would win a 7 game series in 4.

Great first post. Welcome to ISH :applause:

[stalkerforlife]

Great first post. :applause:

:banana:

Thanks!

[yarrak]

First of all, the title of the topic is Lebron vs prime Kobe, one-on-one

Second, you cant get your parachute and just drop into this thread. This was a reply.

Third, i said Lebron isnt faster/quicker than prime Kobe. I didnt said Kobe was Usain bolt in front of Lebron.

If you read the topic, ppl were saying that Lebron is pretty much strong as Shaq and faster as Iverson. Like Lebron (6,8 and 250lb) would just back Kobe (6,6 and 230lb) with his Shaq strength.

Show me any proof that Lebron knows how to use his strength in the post and can back ppl up with his hulk strength, specially against Kobe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5LVWNQF5VE



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Kobe is faster than LeBron?:lol :lol :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lT_uNa9XJA

Just watch the first 6 seconds. If you still say Kobe is faster than LeBron, then I'm done talking to you.

Also watch this video too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulPIQthBffo

Kobe was never this fast. Keep in mind that Cleveland Lebron was faster than this.

I can't believe some people here can't understand the difference between a 5 vs 5 game and a 1 vs 1 game. Obviously you haven't been watching Lebron the past 2 years. He has improved his post game a lot. Even if this was 4-5 years ago when he didn't have a good post game, he could still use his power. He doesn't need to worry about double teams or other defenders in a 1 on 1 game. You don't need to be a genius to figure these things out. Just use your brain and think a little...

I love how you play with numbers too. When Kobe was 230 pounds, he seemed a lot slower than he was before. LeBron entered the draft at 245 pounds, you really think he is 250 pounds now? He's got at least 40 pounds on Kobe and 40 pounds ain't nothin to play with son.

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