Dwight's solution to Aldrige crapping on him - DEMAND THE BALL MORE

[niko]

So for game 3 does he demand the ball even more? Maybe he could shoot every possession?

Wouldn't a better solution be him covering Aldridge and shutting his ass down?

[fiddy]

So he can end up with 10+ TOs. Harden + Howard combined for 11 of Rockets 14 total TOs last night

[K Xerxes]

Why not demand the ball more when the so called 'leader' of the team has forgotten how to play basketball? He did his part offensively last night with 32 points on 13/22 shooting and almost perfect from the FT line.

And what's he supposed to do about LMA shooting lights out from mid?

Anything to rag on with this guy.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Why not demand the ball more when the so called 'leader' of the team has forgotten how to play basketball? He did his part offensively last night with 32 points on 13/22 shooting and almost perfect from the FT line.

And what's he supposed to do about LMA shooting lights out from mid?

Anything to rag on with this guy.
I hate Dwight just as much as the next guy but totally agree. Dwight played extremely well last night. Problem is they're not getting the proper production out of their second best player. LMA is just hot right now, nothing else you can do.

[niko]

Dwight is the defensive stopper on the team. If the big on the other team is going off, his job is to stop him. Is Houston having trouble scoring?

Instead they are going to (on the fly) rebuild themselves as an inside out post team, instead of stopping Aldridge and doing what they do well already, scoring.

Makes no sense. Dwight is clueless. His ultimate role is to defend and rebound, to dominate the paint. On a team with scorers and shitty defense, he is taking on the role of scorer. Huh?

[HomieWeMajor]

Harden and Howard should spam pick n roll for the rest of the series

[niko]

Harden and Howard should spam pick n roll for the rest of the series
Did he get over his Laker pick n roll disease that prevented him from doing it with Nash?

[2LeTTeRS]

Dwight is the defensive stopper on the team. If the big on the other team is going off, his job is to stop him. Is Houston having trouble scoring?

Instead they are going to (on the fly) rebuild themselves as an inside out post team, instead of stopping Aldridge and doing what they do well already, scoring.

Makes no sense. Dwight is clueless. His ultimate role is to defend and rebound, to dominate the paint. On a team with scorers and shitty defense, he is taking on the role of scorer. Huh?

When you have shitty defenders on the perimeter somebody is needed to anchor the middle, and thats Dwight's role on this team. If McHale chooses to play Omer and Dwight together; then by all means Dwight should be on LMA but that decision is on the coach to make.

[Angel Face]

I think he should fake injury to avoid further embarrassment.

[WallIn]

Howard didn't do anything wrong. He was 32/14 and 6-7 at the line. It is Harden who ****ed up.

[K Xerxes]

Dwight is the defensive stopper on the team. If the big on the other team is going off, his job is to stop him. Is Houston having trouble scoring?

Instead they are going to (on the fly) rebuild themselves as an inside out post team, instead of stopping Aldridge and doing what they do well already, scoring.

Makes no sense. Dwight is clueless. His ultimate role is to defend and rebound, to dominate the paint. On a team with scorers and shitty defense, he is taking on the role of scorer. Huh?

Put Dwight on LMA and you're dragging out your defensive anchor to the perimeter a lot of the time. Considering Jones is still playing more minutes than Asik (not Dwight's fault), it makes no sense to put Dwight on Aldridge when Lopez is there and the rest of the Portland team can get by Houston's god awful perimeter defenders. Not that it matters since there's nothing you can do about Aldridge hitting difficult mid range shots like they're layups.

Maybe Houston isn't having enough trouble scoring because Dwight is putting up 30ppg on 51% shooting? By all means, if Harden were to man up and increase his production from a pathetic 23ppg on 30%, Dwight can ease down, but that's not happening right now. So it's on Dwight as the co-star to carry that offensive burden. Unless, of course, you think it's Dwight's fault that Harden is playing like ass? :oldlol:

You've been here since 2006 yet you don't seem to understand basketball. You must be trolling?

[Nick Young]

Howard didn't do anything wrong. He was 32/14 and 6-7 at the line. It is Harden who ****ed up.
"Best defensive big in the NBA" Dwight did not step up to try to shut down Aldridge when he was going off. Dwight has not played good D.

Dwight scored 7 points in the second half.

[Marlo_Stanfield]

the problem is Dwight doesnt want to play PnR. that would open it up for everyone, himself included AND make aldridge at least run on defense. he should play PnR with Lin and #Harden no matter what the retard coach of him says

[BlackWhiteGreen]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi_ilbTSC0g

Tell me what ANYONE can do about half of those LMA jumpers?

[Nick Young]

the problem is Dwight doesnt want to play PnR. that would open it up for everyone, himself included AND make aldridge at least run on defense. he should play PnR with Lin and #Harden no matter what the retard coach of him says
Coaches want to play PnR. Dwight doesn't. D'Antoni is a pure PnR coach, Nash one of the best PnR guards of all time and Dwight refused to play it.



ALSO

Dwight is not a good PnR player. He doesn't roll off of screens properly and doesn't know when to expect the ball. He also brings the ball too low and gets stripped alot.


HE SHOULD be a great PnR player like Karl Malone in theory, but in reality he isn't. He lacks both the fundamentals and mentality for it. If you ask Dwight to make quick decisions he will turn the ball over.

Harden-Dwight PnR would be more effective then what they do now but this isn't on McHale. Dwight has said multiple times he doesnt want to be a PnR center.

[imdaman99]

Howard could try to cover LMA, but LMA is faster than him and plus it's possible he could get Dwight into foul trouble. Dwight gets called for plenty of stupid offensive fouls/illegal picks.

[HurricaneKid]

There are a lot of people in here that are showing their stripes.

Dwight is the best rim protector in the game (read: interior help defender). He hasn't been getting gutted AT ALL. In fact, he was responsible for slowing LA for a while in the 3rd before he got his 4th foul. The problem is when he does take LA he is 20 ft from the hoop and TJones is all that stands between Lillard, et al and the basket. Remember, their perimeter defenders are a joke. So now its a freeway to the hoop and if someone DOES miss Jones is left to battle RoLo for boards which hasn't worked out very well for Houston either.

[YouGotServed]

Because foul trouble, no rim protection, and Jones is a weak rebounder and can't box out fropez.

[Jlamb47]

To be honest they werent playing horrible defense on Aldridge he actually was hitting contested shots. Most of his point were jumpers i rather him shoot then get a lay up
and hes still hitting
nothing you can unless u start doubling
but too many shooters for that

[Djsonny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi_ilbTSC0g

Tell me what ANYONE can do about half of those LMA jumpers?

you cant but you can force the ball out of his hands, mchale hasnt decided to double/triple team LA yet fearing portlands 3s. But at this point, if im the rockets, i rather have portland shoot 3s over LAs automatic Js. 3% can not be nowhere near as good as LAs shots.

[chocolatethunder]

the problem is Dwight doesnt want to play PnR. that would open it up for everyone, himself included AND make aldridge at least run on defense. he should play PnR with Lin and #Harden no matter what the retard coach of him says
How's Lin been playing this series? Lockdown D and lights out from three? It's McHales fault right?

[Demitri98]

Howard didn't do anything wrong. He was 32/14 and 6-7 at the line. It is Harden who ****ed up.
Damn son

[hawksdogsbraves]

There are a lot of people in here that are showing their stripes.

Dwight is the best rim protector in the game (read: interior help defender). He hasn't been getting gutted AT ALL. In fact, he was responsible for slowing LA for a while in the 3rd before he got his 4th foul. The problem is when he does take LA he is 20 ft from the hoop and TJones is all that stands between Lillard, et al and the basket. Remember, their perimeter defenders are a joke. So now its a freeway to the hoop and if someone DOES miss Jones is left to battle RoLo for boards which hasn't worked out very well for Houston either.

So what, it's up to McHale to make some changes because leaving Dwight to protect the rim let Aldridge get whatever he wanted and go off for two straight games, pretty much ending the series.

Yeah, Dwight is a great rim protector, but if Aldridge is single handedly ruining your season I think I'd consider sending him out to guard LMA while letting Asik hold down the paint. If Asik isn't in then I'd still put Dwight on LMA and take my chances on Robin Lopez beating me with his post game, (LOL) or Lillard driving to the basket.

It's not optimal to have Dwight outside the post, but refusing to make any changes is what has McHale down 0-2 and will probably be what costs him his job.

[yarrak]

Aldrige is clowning this niqga.

http://www.resimler.tv/data/media/2/haylaz-maymun.gif

[Jameerthefear]

Niko did you even watch the game? You guys aren't realizing the shots Aldridge is making. They are CONTESTED. Defensively, Mchale has to tell them to double

[IMObjective]

How's Lin been playing this series? Lockdown D and lights out from three? It's McHales fault right?
Marlo is obviously asian and is totally biased for Lin, but please tell me he's wrong and you're not racist about an asian guy being a star in the league.

[97 bulls]

Why not demand the ball more when the so called 'leader' of the team has forgotten how to play basketball? He did his part offensively last night with 32 points on 13/22 shooting and almost perfect from the FT line.

And what's he supposed to do about LMA shooting lights out from mid?

Anything to rag on with this guy.
Howard dominated the first half. He didn't do the same in the second. Im with Niko. Howard needs to be defending Aldridge. Asik is an excellent rim protector. He does not have the foot speed to stay in front of Aldridge.

[Jameerthefear]

Dwight is the defensive stopper on the team. If the big on the other team is going off, his job is to stop him. Is Houston having trouble scoring?

Instead they are going to (on the fly) rebuild themselves as an inside out post team, instead of stopping Aldridge and doing what they do well already, scoring.

Makes no sense. Dwight is clueless. His ultimate role is to defend and rebound, to dominate the paint. On a team with scorers and shitty defense, he is taking on the role of scorer. Huh?
Aldridge is making shots you can't defend and he's making them at a really high rate. McHale has to tell Dwight to double, but Mchale is an awful coach. I highly doubt you watch the games niko.

[Jameerthefear]

Howard dominated the first half. He didn't do the same in the second. Im with Niko. Howard needs to be defending Aldridge. Asik is an excellent rim protector. He does not have the foot speed to stay in front of Aldridge.
Dwight did defend him for stretches. Aldridge is making unguardable shots. There's not a damn thing you can do about it but double, but Mchale won't do that for some reason.

[chocolatethunder]

Marlo is obviously asian and is totally biased for Lin, but please tell me he's wrong and you're not racist about an asian guy being a star in the league.
I don't care that he's Asian. I only care that he's overrated and some people are still unable to view him objectively. He's a decent scorer off the bench. I loved Yao because he was skilled. Lin is all hype. He's just average which is why he lost his spot to a bum like Beverly.

[IMObjective]

I don't care that he's Asian. I only care that he's overrated and some people are still unable to view him objectively. He's a decent scorer off the bench. I loved Yao because he was skilled. Lin is all hype. He's just average which is why he lost his spot to a bum like Beverly.
Ok, cool, no doubt he's a bigger star than he might deserve to be because of his race.

[Genaro]

People were talking about D12 should play PnR and I tell you it wouldn't work.
First of all he doesn't want to.

Second he doesn't have the skills to do it. He have such bad hands and he's either stripped or can't handle the ball. This goes without telling that he is prone to commit a TO off fouling someone or travelling.

Good hands is such an underrated skill, Amar'e for example doesn't get proper credit for it. Bad hands was one of the problems Howard had during his Laker spell.

[Jameerthefear]

People were talking about D12 should play PnR and I tell you it wouldn't work.
First of all he doesn't want to.

Second he doesn't have the skills to do it. He have such bad hands and he's either stripped or can't handle the ball. This goes without telling that he is prone to commit a TO off fouling someone or travelling.

Good hands is such an underrated skill, Amar'e for example doesn't get proper credit for it. Bad hands was one of the problems Howard had during his Laker spell.
this is so wrong it hurts. when dwight actually runs the pnr he's one of the best if not the best at finishing.

[IMObjective]

this is so wrong it hurts. when dwight actually runs the pnr he's one of the best if not the best at finishing.
Then why doesn't he want to run it? It's weird.

[Jameerthefear]

Then why doesn't he want to run it? It's weird.
No idea.

[Nick Young]

There are a lot of people in here that are showing their stripes.

Dwight is the best rim protector in the game (read: interior help defender). He hasn't been getting gutted AT ALL. In fact, he was responsible for slowing LA for a while in the 3rd before he got his 4th foul. The problem is when he does take LA he is 20 ft from the hoop and TJones is all that stands between Lillard, et al and the basket. Remember, their perimeter defenders are a joke. So now its a freeway to the hoop and if someone DOES miss Jones is left to battle RoLo for boards which hasn't worked out very well for Houston either.
He hasn't been for 3 years now atleast.

Bogut
Hibbert
Marc Gasol
Anthony Davis

all these guys way better then Dwight Coward.

[ZenMaster]

Then why doesn't he want to run it? It's weird.

Bad back so he doesn't want to set as many screens, legends like Hakeem and Shaq telling him he should be a 1on1 player..

Just guesses.

[Nick Young]

People were talking about D12 should play PnR and I tell you it wouldn't work.
First of all he doesn't want to.

Second he doesn't have the skills to do it. He have such bad hands and he's either stripped or can't handle the ball. This goes without telling that he is prone to commit a TO off fouling someone or travelling.

Good hands is such an underrated skill, Amar'e for example doesn't get proper credit for it. Bad hands was one of the problems Howard had during his Laker spell.
This is so right that it hurts. I watched Nash and Kobe feed perfect passes to Dwight off the PnR for an entire year, only for it to bounce out of his brick hands, bounce off the back of his head because he wasnt looking for a pass, or for him to catch the pass only to bring the ball down and get stripped.

Howard doesnt have the skillset or IQ to be a good pick and roll center which is really sad because it would get the best out of him.

Dwight does not set fundamentally sound screens and does not roll off them properly. I dont understand how a guy can have played basketball his whole life around top coaches and still not know how to roll off a screen correctly but thats D12 for you.

If Howard has to make a quick decision there is a 50% chance he will screw up.

If Nash and Kobe couldnt get the PnR to work with Dwight, no one can. Pretty sad.

A Lin/Howard PnR should be good in theory. No reason Linsanity cant run it with Asik though.

[Jameerthefear]

This is so right that it hurts. I watched Nash and Kobe feed perfect passes to Dwight off the PnR for an entire year, only for it to bounce out of his brick hands, bounce off the back of his head because he wasnt looking for a pass, or for him to catch the pass only to bring the ball down and get stripped.

Howard doesnt have the skillset or IQ to be a good pick and roll center which is really sad because it would get the best out of him.

Dwight does not set fundamentally sound screens and does not roll off them properly. I dont understand how a guy can have played basketball his whole life around top coaches and still not know how to roll off a screen correctly but thats D12 for you.

If Howard has to make a quick decision there is a 50% chance he will screw up.

If Nash and Kobe couldnt get the PnR to work with Dwight, no one can. Pretty sad.

A Lin/Howard PnR should be good in theory. No reason Linsanity cant run it with Asik though.
Dwight is best PnR player in the league you moron. Ignore listed.

[Bandito]

Why not theyre not winning, just try it and see what happens.

[Bandito]

Dwight is best PnR player in the league you moron. Ignore listed.
No hes not, hw cant catch the ball and hes a horrible off the ball. Nash yelled at him one time for having horrible position.

[Nick Young]

Dwight is best PnR player in the league you moron. Ignore listed.
Even if that were true, what does it mean then that Dwight refuses to run PnRs? That just makes him look more stupid.

[Bandito]

Even if that were true, what does it mean then that Dwight refuses to run PnRs? That just makes him look more stupid.
I wanna know too. Why not play to your strength?

[niko]

People are missing my point. I didn't say everything is Dwight's fault. I'm saying his solution is ridiculous. When your job is to defend and rebound, and your team has scoring, how is the key to you winning to "score". Not defend and rebound more?

The Rockets defense is horrific this series, and Harden has been bad, and instead of getting him off, we got Howard off while everyone else stood around. It's stupid.

At some point the drama that surrounds Howard led teams has to be the fault of Howard.

[Rocketswin2013]

I wanna know too. Why not play to your strength?
Whn healthy and engaged he can dominate anybody he wants in the low-post. Like he did last night. A PNR can simply be shut down if guys aren't hitting shots around you. That was the case last night.

Houston would have ran it alot more if they hada stretch 4 on the court but McHale is an idiot and refused to play Motiejunas.

[The JKidd Kid]

Nah I think when a player is this hot the only way to cool them down is to design the defense to deny them the ball or go at them at the defensive end and tire them out. So Dwight really isn't that far off. Of the Rockets can force LA to guard him more often it will be good for them.

[Jameerthefear]

People are missing my point. I didn't say everything is Dwight's fault. I'm saying his solution is ridiculous. When your job is to defend and rebound, and your team has scoring, how is the key to you winning to "score". Not defend and rebound more?

The Rockets defense is horrific this series, and Harden has been bad, and instead of getting him off, we got Howard off while everyone else stood around. It's stupid.

At some point the drama that surrounds Howard led teams has to be the fault of Howard.
What should have happened? Should they have went to Harden whose shooting 29% from the field? Iso Parsons? Lin? There isn't another consistent scoring option. Defense is the problem, but it's not as simple as "He needs to get focused!!" (he's been their best defensive player BY FAR btw.) It's coaching decisions like whether to double LMA or not. You're being ridiculous and focusing on the drama aspect too much. It doesn't have anything to do about drama. It's about basketblall.

[Rocketswin2013]

People are missing my point. I didn't say everything is Dwight's fault. I'm saying his solution is ridiculous. When your job is to defend and rebound, and your team has scoring, how is the key to you winning to "score". Not defend and rebound more?

The Rockets defense is horrific this series, and Harden has been bad, and instead of getting him off, we got Howard off while everyone else stood around. It's stupid.

At some point the drama that surrounds Howard led teams has to be the fault of Howard.
Who the **** else was about to consistently create offense other than HIM? If Harden and parsons are not playing well the floor gets crowded and it shuts passing and driving lanes off.


Howard was the ONLY mismatch on the court.

Making a thread about a guy averaging 29/15/4/1/1 31 PER in this series and bitching about him being aggressive is just stupid as shit. Especially IF you're mentioning him and "DRAMA" in the same sentence.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Dwight is putting up playoff caliber numbers. It's his counterparts that are not helping him at all. Also the Rockets overall defense is very bad. Their defense is "score more points than the other team". That defense will never win you a championship.

[niko]

The Rockets defense is shitty and they lost. Their defensive leader's solution, I NEED THE BALL MORE. How does that not sound selfish?

He got the ball, the overall offense was no better although he was, and there defense was still uber shitty, and they lost.

I'm glad some of you see that as a good move on his part even though it failed.

[Jameerthefear]

The Rockets defense is shitty and they lost. Their defensive leader's solution, I NEED THE BALL MORE. How does that not sound selfish?

He got the ball, the overall offense was no better although he was, and there defense was still uber shitty, and they lost.

I'm glad some of you see that as a good move on his part even though it failed.
Have you ever thought for a second that this might be a coaching problem? You know how many doubles were sent on LMA last night? Maybe once or twice. Again what should have happened then. Who should they have gone to? You aren't even thinking about this logically. Just "Well the defense sucked so it's all his fault." I guarantee you didn't watch the game.

[niko]

Have you ever thought for a second that this might be a coaching problem? You know how many doubles were sent on LMA last night? Maybe once or twice. Again what should have happened then. Who should they have gone to? You aren't even thinking about this logically. Just "Well the defense sucked so it's all his fault." I guarantee you didn't watch the game.

It doesn't matter, their leader's solution to shitty defense on a team where everyone only cares about offense is I NEED MORE SHOTS. You can say whatever you want, the solution to getting this team to play harder, and play more defense is not your leader saying I NEED TO SHOOT MORE. Period.

What should you do Dwight? WE SHOULD PLAY SOME ****ING DEFENSE. ILL LEAD AND THEY WILL FOLLOW.

Is Dwight a leader or not?

The Rockets look bad because Portland is making some sort of effort on defense (although not great, it's there) and they are not.

[Droid101]

Dwight is putting up playoff caliber numbers. It's his counterparts that are not helping him at all. Also the Rockets overall defense is very bad. Their defense is "score more points than the other team". That defense will never win you a championship.
Why do you think that is? Why do you think the Hawks beat the Magic that year as a lower seed?

Because they are letting Dwight "get his" and smothering everyone with single coverage, instead of doubling Dwight and leaving people open.

It's an easy strategy. Spurs murdered the Lakers with it last year.

[Rocketswin2013]

Why do you think that is? Why do you think the Hawks beat the Magic that year as a lower seed?

Because they are letting Dwight "get his" and smothering everyone with single coverage, instead of doubling Dwight and leaving people open.

It's an easy strategy. Spurs murdered the Lakers with it last year.
Harden is smothering himself. And so is Parsons. What you said would have been true if:

1. Howard would have went god mode last year but he didn't

2. Parsons didn't have a great game 1

He scored literally the Rockets first 11 or 13 points back to back to back to back but that was Portland's plan?

[Jameerthefear]

It doesn't matter, their leader's solution to shitty defense on a team where everyone only cares about offense is I NEED MORE SHOTS. You can say whatever you want, the solution to getting this team to play harder, and play more defense is not your leader saying I NEED TO SHOOT MORE. Period.

What should you do Dwight? WE SHOULD PLAY SOME ****ING DEFENSE. ILL LEAD AND THEY WILL FOLLOW.

Is Dwight a leader or not?

The Rockets look bad because Portland is making some sort of effort on defense (although not great, it's there) and they are not.
Okay. It's apparently Howard's job to coach too because it's his fault that their not doubling and it's his fault that LMA is making unguardable shots. Gotcha.

[niko]

Okay. It's apparently Howard's job to coach too because it's his fault that their not doubling and it's his fault that LMA is making unguardable shots. Gotcha.
Are you in love with him or something? He's one of the biggest starts in the league, he has to lead, and you can say it a million times but i don't see how you lead a team that doesn't want to play defense by demanding more shots. And to boot, it so clearly failed.

IF Howard doesn't need to lead who is? Harden?

[Jameerthefear]

Are you in love with him or something? He's one of the biggest starts in the league, he has to lead, and you can say it a million times but i don't see how you lead a team that doesn't want to play defense by demanding more shots. And to boot, it so clearly failed.

IF Howard doesn't need to lead who is? Harden?
You're too simple minded on this. Do you even understand what Houston's defensive problems are? Guarding LMA is the biggest problem, but Dwight can't call doubles on him himself. McHale has to do it.

[ihatetimthomas]

To those who are pointing out Dwights stats last night. Yeah it looks nice and all but the dude has 19 in the first quarter. Where did he go offensively after that? He started out 8/9 and finished 5/13. 7 points in the second half. What the excuse there? Plus his counterpart LA is averaging 45/12. What good does his stats do if he is getting dominated on the other side?