"It's easy to protest, the protest will be in our play."

[LoneyROY7]

Doc Rivers, ladies and gentlemen.

:bowdown: :applause: :bowdown:

"The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men...as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group."

So glad this man is our head coach.

[MavsSuperFan]

Doc Rivers, ladies and gentlemen.

:bowdown: :applause: :bowdown:

"The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men...as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group."

So glad this man is our head coach.
no offense to doc, i understand it must be a tough situation for him, but you realize what he basically saying is that:

"lets go out and try our best to win. Forget that the guy that owns the company we work for is a racist. Forget he is probably racist against us (him and the black players). Lets do our best to win anyways."

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

[LoneyROY7]

no offense to doc, i understand it must be a tough situation for him, but you realize what he basically saying is that:

"lets go out and try our best to win. Forget that the guy that owns the company we work for is a racist. Forget he is probably racist against us (him and the black players). Lets do our best to win anyways."

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

:facepalm

Yeah, quit on the players and quit on the fanbase. Give me a f***ing break.

I don't root for the Clippers b/c of the Donald Sterling (I root in spite of him in fact). These players aren't trying to win a championship for that disgusting old bigot...they are trying to win for each other and for the fans.

The idea that they should quit and stop playing or that Rivers should resign is absolutely asinine.

[IamRAMBO24]

no offense to doc, i understand it must be a tough situation for him, but you realize what he basically saying is that:

"lets go out and try our best to win. Forget that the guy that owns the company we work for is a racist. Forget he is probably racist against us (him and the black players). Lets do our best to win anyways."

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

Why?

That's stupid.

I work for an owner who is very different from me. He has views that I might not agree with, but you know what, he pays my bills, put food on my table, afforded me a car to drive, allowed me the luxury to take my gf out for a nice dinner, etc.

Trust me, nobody in their right mind will give up millions just because somebody said something offensive in their private time.

[Foster5k]

It's called rising above.

Doc Rivers knows the only plausible solution is to just go out there and play as a team and for each other. Forget the owner, we're here to win a championship for ourselves and for our fans. That is what Doc Rivers is telling his team.

Doc Rivers and his players can rise above this bigot racist Donald Sterling. I hope they win a championship. When they hold up the trophy, I hope they say, "In spite of our owner, we rose above. We won this championship for each other and for all of you, the fans!"

That would put a huge smile on my face. I would pay to see Sterling's reaction.

You can rise above hatred. Americans have done it in the past and still do when necessary.

[nathanjizzle]

no offense to doc, i understand it must be a tough situation for him, but you realize what he basically saying is that:

"lets go out and try our best to win. Forget that the guy that owns the company we work for is a racist. Forget he is probably racist against us (him and the black players). Lets do our best to win anyways."

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

no it isnt, quitting is being bitter about it. playing your best and benefiting the racist guy shows that you are above him.

[LoneyROY7]

It's called rising above.

Doc Rivers knows the only plausible solution is to just go out there and play as a team and for each other. Forget the owner, we're here to win a championship for ourselves and for our fans. That is what Doc Rivers is telling his team.

Doc Rivers and his players can rise above this bigot racist Donald Sterling. I hope they win a championship. When they hold up the trophy, I hope they say, "In spite of our owner, we rose above. We won this championship for each other and for all of you, the fans!"

That would put a huge smile on my face. I would pay to see Sterling's reaction.

You can rise above hatred. Americans have done it in the past and still do when necessary.

:applause: Well said. That's exactly how I feel.

[DonDadda59]

no offense to doc, i understand it must be a tough situation for him, but you realize what he basically saying is that:

"lets go out and try our best to win. Forget that the guy that owns the company we work for is a racist. Forget he is probably racist against us (him and the black players). Lets do our best to win anyways."

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

That's not really fair. Why should he bail on a team with championship aspirations in the playoffs and jeopardize his livelihood? He and his players have been put in an impossible position and not at all by their doing.

At this point their sole focus should be on basketball, leave politics for the offseason.

[oarabbus]

no it isnt, quitting is being bitter about it. playing your best and benefiting the racist guy shows that you are above him.


Yeah... and he benefits while you know in your heart he considers you sub-human. Sick victory bro.

[MavsSuperFan]

It's called rising above.

Doc Rivers knows the only plausible solution is to just go out there and play as a team and for each other. Forget the owner, we're here to win a championship for ourselves and for our fans. That is what Doc Rivers is telling his team.

Doc Rivers and his players can rise above this bigot racist Donald Sterling. I hope they win a championship. When they hold up the trophy, I hope they say, "In spite of our owner, we rose above. We won this championship for each other and for all of you, the fans!"

That would put a huge smile on my face. I would pay to see Sterling's reaction.

You can rise above hatred. Americans have done it in the past and still do when necessary.

You realize they give the trophy to the owner first right? You realize he will get the banner.

Look I am not even blaming the clippers or doc. I would do the same in their position. I am just saying it isnt the "strong" thing to do.

The strong thing to do, is to forfeit the money (largely earned by being a slum lord and taking advantage of poor hispanic and black tenants) and say that the man you work for is immoral, and you dont want to make money for him.

Now I would never do that, because I am greedy. Dont pretend continuing to play for sterling isnt helping him.

[215Philly]

It's a lose/lose situation. If they win, they are helping a racist & if they lose, they are letting down their fanbase. It's really sad tbh :(

[MavsSuperFan]

That's not really fair. Why should he bail on a team with championship aspirations in the playoffs and jeopardize his livelihood? He and his players have been put in an impossible position and not at all by their doing.

At this point their sole focus should be on basketball, leave politics for the offseason.
Ok, but can you admit that coincides with what is best financially for him?

[16X]

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.
Or how about not forcing his way to the team that's owned by the biggest racist owner in the league in the first place?

Doc couldn't give two shits about Sterling's phone convo or how he carries himself, and anyone who believes he cares is a fool. He just has to say something for the media, to make it look like he doesn't approve.

[LoneyROY7]

Or how about not forcing his way to the team that's owned by the biggest racist owner in the league in the first place?

Doc couldn't give two shits about Sterling's phone convo or how he carries himself, and anyone who believes he cares is a fool. He just has to say something for the media, to make it look like he doesn't approve.

:biggums:

Unreal the lack of awareness some people on ISH have.

[comerb]

You realize they give the trophy to the owner first right? You realize he will get the banner.

Look I am not even blaming the clippers or doc. I would do the same in their position. I am just saying it isnt the "strong" thing to do.

The strong thing to do, is to forfeit the money (largely earned by being a slum lord and taking advantage of poor hispanic and black tenants) and say that the man you work for is immoral, and you dont want to make money for him.

Now I would never do that, because I am greedy. Dont pretend continuing to play for sterling isnt helping him.

Who cares? Nobody attributes banners and trophies to owners, outside of maybe Jerry Buss.

There is *nothing* you can do to hurt Donald Sterling financially. Even if you force him to sell the team, he's selling the team at an inflated value and making an ungodly amount of money.

Shun him publicly, have the press put pressure on him. Make his public life a nightmare. That's the most you can do.

[Brokenbeat]

:biggums:

Unreal the lack of awareness some people on ISH have.

Yeah, the fact that anyone is surprised by Sterling's comments is just hilarious, lol. I mean, you knew your owner was a racist shitbag when you became a Clippers fan, right?

[MavsSuperFan]

:biggums:

Unreal the lack of awareness some people on ISH have.
Its actually somewhat true. I have known that sterling is a racist for as long as i can remember. I have to imagine everyone in the NBA knows.

Elgin Baylor's Clippers Lawsuit: Shocking Claims Against Owner Donald Sterling

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/elgin-baylor-donald-sterling-clippers-lawsuit_n_805909.html


Baylor, who was a Clippers executive from 1986 to 2008, alleges that Sterling was unwilling to "fairly compensate African-American players" and as a result, the team "lost a lot of good talent."

Also how he made his money as a slumlord.
Also how he refused to rent nicer properties to minority families.

You have to wonder about anyone non-white that chooses to work for sterling

[LoneyROY7]

Yeah, the fact that anyone is surprised by Sterling's comments is just hilarious, lol. I mean, you knew your owner was a racist shitbag when you became a Clippers fan, right?

How many times do I have to say this? I don't root for the Clippers in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM because of that piece of shit Donald Sterling. Period. End of story.

I root for the Clippers because of the players and the name on the front of the jersey...the owner has no bearing on that for me.

Is the owner a vile, disgusting, and bigoted piece of inhuman filth? Yes. But I'm not gonna let his ways stop me from enjoying the team I've rooted for since I was a kid.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Anyone who suggests the Clippers should tank is an idiot. Play your hardest, don't let it get to you, and let the league take care of this miserable old codger.

[MavsSuperFan]

:facepalm

Yeah, quit on the players and quit on the fanbase. Give me a f***ing break.

I don't root for the Clippers b/c of the Donald Sterling (I root in spite of him in fact). These players aren't trying to win a championship for that disgusting old bigot...they are trying to win for each other and for the fans.

The idea that they should quit and stop playing or that Rivers should resign is absolutely asinine.
That makes as much sense as people who hate walmart for destroying their local economy but continue to insist on shopping there.

I sympathize with you. But you realize that the clippers winning automatically = donald sterling winning right?

[SpecialQue]

Every real Clipper fan that I've ever talked to who knows about Sterling has always hated him and wished he'd sell the team.

[16X]

:biggums:

Unreal the lack of awareness some people on ISH have.
Answer me this LoneyROY7. Was information about Sterling, far worse than this, already out there in the public, that Doc Rivers surely would have known about prior to becoming the Cippers head coach? Then why was the man so desperate to put himself on Donald Sterling's payroll? It's because he wanted a roster he could win with, and rich man Doc wanted to keep getting richer. Doc gives no f*cks about Sterling's racism. Zero.

[MavsSuperFan]

no it isnt, quitting is being bitter about it. playing your best and benefiting the racist guy shows that you are above him.
Well atleast you acknowledge it benefits sterling.

[Brokenbeat]

How many times do I have to say this? I don't root for the Clippers in ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM because of that piece of shit Donald Sterling. Period. End of story.

I root for the Clippers because of players...the owner has no bearing on that for me.

Is the owner a vile, disgusting, and bigoted piece of inhuman filth? Yes. But I'm not gonna let his ways stop me from enjoying the team I've rooted for since I was a kid.

He's the owner, and you support his product. Shouldn't be that difficult to grasp. :confusedshrug:

I eat my Chick-Fil-a while I walk around Hobby Lobby wearing my Abercrombie & Fitch. Oh wait, I'd never be caught dead doing that because they're all owned/run by shitbags that I disagree with. See how that works?

[Ball So Harden]

Doc Rivers, ladies and gentlemen.

:bowdown: :applause: :bowdown:

"The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men...as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group."

So glad this man is our head coach.

Honestly, CP3 demanding a black head coach probably saved them for this playoff run. Imagine a white coach in the locker room telling the mostly black players to ignore the owner and play for themselves. It wouldn't go over as easily.

[MavsSuperFan]

Who cares? Nobody attributes banners and trophies to owners, outside of maybe Jerry Buss.

There is *nothing* you can do to hurt Donald Sterling financially. Even if you force him to sell the team, he's selling the team at an inflated value and making an ungodly amount of money.

Shun him publicly, have the press put pressure on him. Make his public life a nightmare. That's the most you can do.
you could always boycott him, but that would require people to sacrifice, so it wont happen.

[sketchy]

Doc Rivers, ladies and gentlemen.

:bowdown: :applause: :bowdown:

"The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men...as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group."

So glad this man is our head coach.
I love Doc so freaking much. Will forever remember and appreciate all he did for Boston. I'm proud of what he's done in LA as well.

[LoneyROY7]

That makes as much sense as people who hate walmart for destroying their local economy but continue to insist on shopping there.

I sympathize with you. But you realize that the clippers winning automatically = donald sterling winning right?

If the Clippers win a championship and denounce the owner at the same time...is Donald Sterling really winning?

Sterling is a billionaire, he's making money whether the Clippers win or lose.

Nothing would be a bigger statement then to win a championship and have players/coach stand up on that podium WITHOUT the owner and say:

"We stand up here as a group of one, not divided by the color of our skin. We will not be broken down by those who wish to spread hate and discrimination. We won this title for the fans and for each other. Thank you."

[SpecialQue]

Doc and the Clippers in a no-win situation because an idiot signs their checks.

[sketchy]

Every real Clipper fan that I've ever talked to who knows about Sterling has always hated him and wished he'd sell the team.
Yeah I've never heard anything good about this dirtbag. Remember the Elgin Baylor lawsuit against him?

[ZenMaster]

Its actually somewhat true. I have known that sterling is a racist for as long as i can remember. I have to imagine everyone in the NBA knows.

Elgin Baylor's Clippers Lawsuit: Shocking Claims Against Owner Donald Sterling

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/07/elgin-baylor-donald-sterling-clippers-lawsuit_n_805909.html



Also how he made his money as a slumlord.
Also how he refused to rent nicer properties to minority families.

You have to wonder about anyone non-white that chooses to work for sterling

Agreed, it's been known for years.
Social media + regular media in 2014 whirls these things so they just go off the charts.

To me it's racist hypocrisy, if the black people employed by Sterling feel SO strongly about it they should have morals not to take his money. They are the ones that can put him out of business of being an NBA owner. If fans REALLY feel so strongly about this they should boycott everything that has to do with the Clippers.
If Sterling was REALLY racist would he be giving as much money to black people like he does. Remember that people have killed through racist motives.

But it's only if you REALLY feel strongly about it.

Personally I'm not suprised or uphauled that a known racist would make racist remarks during a private phone call.

[buddha]

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

It's the Los Angeles Clippers, not the Donald Sterling's Clippers. Nobody really associates owners with the team anyway unless they are those hands on/control freaks like Mark Cuban.

[TheMan]

Why?

That's stupid.

I work for an owner who is very different from me. He has views that I might not agree with, but you know what, he pays my bills, put food on my table, afforded me a car to drive, allowed me the luxury to take my gf out for a nice dinner, etc.

Trust me, nobody in their right mind will give up millions just because somebody said something offensive in their private time.
Unless you ain't working for that paycheck, YOUR work is what is doing all those things you mentioned.

[beastmode]

Let the mechanisms that already exist (nba and gen public) deal with dts. The clippers play for love of the game.

[oarabbus]

It's the Los Angeles Clippers, not the Donald Sterling's Clippers. Nobody really associates owners with the team anyway unless they are those hands on/control freaks like Mark Cuban.


Paul Allen is the owner of the Trailblazers AND the Seahawks. That kind of success isn't a fluke. You gotta associate Allen with those teams.

[Dro]

Answer me this LoneyROY7. Was information about Sterling, far worse than this, already out there in the public, that Doc Rivers surely would have known about prior to becoming the Cippers head coach? Then why was the man so desperate to put himself on Donald Sterling's payroll? It's because he wanted a roster he could win with, and rich man Doc wanted to keep getting richer. Doc gives no f*cks about Sterling's racism. Zero.
:applause:

[MMM]

You realize they give the trophy to the owner first right? You realize he will get the banner.

Look I am not even blaming the clippers or doc. I would do the same in their position. I am just saying it isnt the "strong" thing to do.

The strong thing to do, is to forfeit the money (largely earned by being a slum lord and taking advantage of poor hispanic and black tenants) and say that the man you work for is immoral, and you dont want to make money for him.

Now I would never do that, because I am greedy. Dont pretend continuing to play for sterling isnt helping him.

if the nba suspends him, which i guess is possible wouldn't he not he awarded the title????

[steve]

if the nba suspends him, which i guess is possible wouldn't he not he awarded the title????

Right, if they suspend him for the playoffs, he wouldn't even be allowed to show up for the game. Although I sort of get the impression he wouldn't care one way or the other. You can talk about hitting him financially but he's made money for years not caring about the product the Clippers put on the court. He's about as disassociated with the product as an actual owner could be.

[SacJB Shady]

Doc Rivers, ladies and gentlemen.

:bowdown: :applause: :bowdown:

"The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men...as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group."

So glad this man is our head coach.


Sorry. The biggest statement is to stick together and not play. He's basically saying that it's ok to play for the owner. That's who you playing for.

[SacJB Shady]

Let the mechanisms that already exist (nba and gen public) deal with dts. The clippers play for love of the game.


They are playing for big brother. Who's team is it?

[ImKobe]

no offense to doc, i understand it must be a tough situation for him, but you realize what he basically saying is that:

"lets go out and try our best to win. Forget that the guy that owns the company we work for is a racist. Forget he is probably racist against us (him and the black players). Lets do our best to win anyways."

A much stronger statement would have been to resign.

holy shit, the worst post in ISH history right here

you can't possibly be this stupid

:kobe: :whatever: :durantunimpressed:

[SacJB Shady]

Learn to Say NO, that's true inner strength

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

Why?

That's stupid.

I work for an owner who is very different from me. He has views that I might not agree with, but you know what, he pays my bills, put food on my table, afforded me a car to drive, allowed me the luxury to take my gf out for a nice dinner, etc.

Trust me, nobody in their right mind will give up millions just because somebody said something offensive in their private time.
players demand he sells the team while still living their luxurious lifestyles. they lose absolutely nothing. i don't see how your situation is even remotely close to players that have an option to play for 31 other teams. if the tape proves to be legit, sterling is as good as gone. end of story.

[UK2K]

The players should take their next game checks, go in the inner city, and buy 10,000 tickets for minority kids to the next game.

Imagine the horror of an arena full of black kids owned by a racist owner.

[keep-itreal]

Yeah Chris Paul should just walk out of the building and never play a clippers game ever again even though he got that $100 million dollar contract.

Great logic.

[longtime lurker]

Doc Rivers, ladies and gentlemen.

:bowdown: :applause: :bowdown:

"The biggest statement we can make as men, not as black men...as men, is to stick together and show how strong we are as a group."

So glad this man is our head coach.

What a bland PC answer. Basically said they'll continue to be good little boys and not make waves. :facepalm Sterling will continue to win.