Eliminated in the first round? Bulls should have just tanked.

[Upgrayedd]

WTF happened to them this series? This is not the same team that played so well the second half of the season. They should have just tanked and gotten a good pick in the draft. :banghead:

[ImKobe]

My boy Ariza going off

we need to get him in the off-season

[miggyme1]

WTF happened to them this series? This is not the same team that played so well the second half of the season. They should have just tanked and gotten a good pick in the draft. :banghead:



Idk if u kids on here understand this but tanking is considered ENJOYING losing or accepting losing. Last i checked sports is about winning. I guess anybody who dont make it to the finals should just tank? Playoff experience is far greater than tanking for draft picks when u drafting unproven talent. Remember that.

[LosBulls]

We have Mirotic.

[Upgrayedd]

Idk if u kids on here understand this but tanking is considered ENJOYING losing or accepting losing. Last i checked sports is about winning. I guess anybody who dont make it to the finals should just tank? Playoff experience is far greater than tanking for draft picks when u drafting unproven talent. Remember that.

First, I'm not a "kid".

Second, this Bulls team already has plenty of experience in the playoffs.

Finally, this draft is supposed to be full of talent. If the Bulls were just going to collapse in the first round, why even bother making it?

[MP.Trey]

They couldn't tank if they tried. At least not with Noah and/or Thibs on the team.

[Upgrayedd]

They couldn't tank if they tried. At least not with Noah and/or Thibs on the team.

So then they make it to the first round where Noah has been pretty useless this series and Thibs is too stubborn to play more than 7 guys. :facepalm

[inclinerator]

they ran out of gas

[navy]

WTF happened to them this series? This is not the same team that played so well the second half of the season. They should have just tanked and gotten a good pick in the draft. :banghead:
The bulls weren't playing well everyone else was sucking. This team has always been a weak playoff team. No offense.

[Qwyjibo]

"Defense wins championships" is just a cliche. You need balance and that obviously includes offense. The Bulls have no one to get easy scoring from and that has been exposed this series.

In the big picture, it was a wasted year for the Bulls but there was no way to avoid that. You're not going to trade good players like Noah and Gibson. The East was bad that even if they dealt other parts, they'd still probably make the playoffs. It was basically impossible for the Bulls to tank this year.

That's assuming they lose this series.

[SwishSquared]

Thibs and Noah couldn't let the team tank. I don't think they could have been one of super bad tanking teams (a la Philly) but they probably could have gotten, what, a mid-to late lottery pick? That's good enough to get a serviceable rotation player in this draft.

Should have gone this route. But you can't force a coach or players to quit on the season. Team's too prideful, which is commendable, but ultimately messed up their draft situation.

[Relinquish]

WTF happened to them this series? This is not the same team that played so well the second half of the season. They should have just tanked and gotten a good pick in the draft. :banghead:

Hindsight is 20/20.

[flipogb]

their effort for the last 2 year have been the biggest waste of effort in anything

[miggyme1]

First, I'm not a "kid".

Second, this Bulls team already has plenty of experience in the playoffs.

Finally, this draft is supposed to be full of talent. If the Bulls were just going to collapse in the first round, why even bother making it?


Is there something wrong with gaining more playoff experience.........kid?


Also keyword was UNPROVEN talent.......kid

[nathanjizzle]

tanking is for bitches.

[WTFdidNBAbigsGO]

We have Mirotic. LOL mirotic is never coming to the bulls...He still stated he wants to play in South America not long ago. And if you wanted him itll take about 7mill to buy out and then probally 5 to sign him since he is off his rookie contract. So Mirotic will take up any room to sign a marquee player.:roll:

[Qwyjibo]

Is there something wrong with gaining more playoff experience.........kid?
How much of this mystical playoff experience is gained with a 1st round loss? How much of that helped those recent Hawks teams or the one-off playoff appearances by the Bucks, Sixers and other mediocre playoff teams? Just another sports cliche. Unless you're regularly making deep runs in the playoffs, it means very little.

[miggyme1]

How much of this mystical playoff experience is gained with a 1st round loss? How much of that helped those recent Hawks teams or the one-off playoff appearances by the Bucks, Sixers and other mediocre playoff teams? Just another sports cliche. Unless you're regularly making deep runs in the playoffs, it means very little.



Ok so u saying going to the playoffs and losing against a team better than u doesnt make u better? Smh im done. Yep it means very little. The playoffs should just be two teams.

[Phantom84]

Gotta respect Noah's passion, dude play with energy every night and that is infectious.

[Phantom_Blue]

How much of this mystical playoff experience is gained with a 1st round loss? How much of that helped those recent Hawks teams or the one-off playoff appearances by the Bucks, Sixers and other mediocre playoff teams? Just another sports cliche. Unless you're regularly making deep runs in the playoffs, it means very little.

I think that's up to the indivual players to decide whether or not experience means anything. I mean who are we to say it means very little, we don't play in the NBA playoffs.:facepalm

[SCdac]

Obviously, they're going nowhere without Rose.

Tough to watch a potentially great team with a low ceiling.

[Qwyjibo]

I think that's up to the indivual players to decide whether or not experience means anything. I mean who are we to say it means very little, we don't play in the NBA playoffs.:facepalm
We can look at teams that frequently made 1st round exits or one-off playoff appearances and how it affected the production of their developing players going forward. To me it's pretty obvious that simply making the playoffs and losing quickly has almost no effect. It's not some cumulative effect that increases your ability to perform with each appearance.

[miggyme1]

We can look at teams that frequently made 1st round exits or one-off playoff appearances and how it affected the production of their developing players going forward. To me it's pretty obvious that simply making the playoffs and losing quickly has almost no effect. It's not some cumulative effect that increases your ability to perform with each appearance.


Okc thunder

2010 playoffs first round loss to lakers
2011 playoffs wcf loss to mavs
2012 playoffs nba finals

Chicago bulls
2009 playoffs first round loss to celtics
2010 first round loss to cavs
2011 ecf loss to heat

I can name many more but i dont wanna embarass you

[Qwyjibo]

Great examples using teams with superstar players that will simply naturally improve. Just great. So instead of attributing the success to tangible things like superstar talent and production, we're going to give credit to the all-powerful but of course immeasurable "playoff experience".

Why do people so often feel the need to create narratives around these things instead of looking at obvious reasons for team success/failure? Doesn't it make more sense to look at the more probable reasons first?

So how did "playoff experience" help the developing players on recent Bucks and Sixers teams? How about all those Hawks teams that constantly made the playoffs? Why did they never make it past the 2nd round when they were clearly so infused with playoff experience? How about my team, the Raptors during the Bosh years? The Bobcats of this year will be another example of simply making the playoffs and getting routed being meaningless. It all comes down to talent and roster composition. Get that right and it doesn't matter if your players have been to the playoffs before or not.

[miggyme1]

Great examples using teams with superstar players that will simply naturally improve. Just great. So instead of attributing the success to tangible things like superstar talent and production, we're going to give credit to the all-powerful but of course immeasurable "playoff experience".

Why do people so often feel the need to create narratives around these things instead of looking at obvious reasons for team success/failure? Doesn't it make more sense to look at the more probable reasons first?

So how did "playoff experience" help the developing players on recent Bucks and Sixers teams? How about all those Hawks teams that constantly made the playoffs? Why did they never make it past the 2nd round when they were clearly so infused with playoff experience? How about my team, the Raptors during the Bosh years? The Bobcats of this year will be another example of simply making the playoffs and getting routed being meaningless. It all comes down to talent and roster composition. Get that right and it doesn't matter if your players have been to the playoffs before or not.

lol u slow arent you?

u asked about the bucks??? do the bucks have the same roster as they did last year???.......ILL WAIT.

u asked about the raptors?? im not too big on the raptors but if im correct the raptors made it in 2007 and 2008 with bosh as the focal point.....2 years making it to the playoffs isnt a good sample size...if they had made it in 2009 who knows....do u know? exactly.

also just because a team has talent doesnt mean they destined to go deep in the playoffs....hmmm do u need examples of that too??? how about thosE late eighties bulls that couldnt get past the pistons and celtics for years??? was it talent they was lacking? when they had jordan and pippen???

what about the lakers when they had shaq and kobe and struggled in 98,99...but finally breaking through in 2000...the previous playoff experience meant nothing?

u asked about the hawks?

08 lost to celtics in first round
09 lost to cavs in second round
10 lost to magic in the second round
11 lost in the second round to the bulls

now look at all those teams they lost to....were they not better? its a simple question. i didnt say playoff experience will win u a championship...i said playoff experience is more valuable than tanking for UNPROVEN talent...is that so hard to understand?

in 2012 theY lost in the first round to the celtics which were a better team and had MORE playoff experience....whats so hard for u to understand....then after that joe johnson left....u ok?